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Travdogg's positional rankings from week 5 onward (1 Viewer)

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QB:
1. Josh Allen (3)
2. Lamar Jackson (1)
3. Jalen Hurts (2)
4. Kyler Murray (4)
5. Justin Herbert (6)
6. Patrick Mahomes (5)
7. Joe Burrow (7)
8. Tom Brady (NR), after the top-7, the next dozen or so are basically a tier. If anyone is breaking through, I'll bet on the pass heavy HOF'er with top notch WRs.
9. Russell Wilson (NR), hey there he is, finally feel like I saw Russell Wilson for the first time this season. Offense could be more pass heavy without Williams.
10. Dak Prescott (NR), back either this week or next, he slots back into where I had him in the preseason.
11. Matthew Stafford (11)
12. Derek Carr (15), feels like a mini-breakout is coming on, especially since the running game is playing better, likely leading to more PA success.
13. Kirk Cousins (10)
14. Tua Tagovailoa (8), I'm probably the most forgiving/optimistic guy when it comes to injuries, that said there are 3 injuries that concern me. Achilles, neck, and concussions. Too much upside to drop lower, but a more than a little concerned.
15. Trevor Lawrence (12)
Dropped off: Aaron Rodgers (9), QB is such that I just have little interest in Rodgers floor. The ceiling is seemingly gone, and while I'm confident he'll finish top-15, there are 15 guys I like more. Carson Wentz (13), back-to-back awful weeks, a lack of big plays, and now Dotson is banged up. Marcus Mariota (14), attempts are dropping by the week, and he's at a much higher risk of being benched than the guys above him.
 
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RB:
1. Christian McCaffrey (1)
2. Jonathan Taylor (2)
3. Saquon Barkley (3)
4. Austin Ekeler (7)
5. Derrick Henry (6)
6. Dalvin Cook (4)
7. Joe Mixon (10)
8. D'Andre Swift (5)
9. Nick Chubb (11)
10. Alvin Kamara (14)
11. Leonard Fournette (13)
12. Josh Jacobs (20), I've always thought Jacobs is one of the best RBs in the NFL, he just got hurt from being in bad offenses, and getting banged up a lot, leading to others getting involved. That said, last week he saw a career high in both touches and snaps. It was a Barkley level workload. If I had any faith it wasn't a 1-week thing, he'd be in the top-10.
13. Rashaad Penny (NR), this week's flag plant is a RB who is averaging over 6 YPC in his last 10 games and is seeing 2/3rds snaps on an offense we clearly all underrated. Talent has never been the issue, just health.
14. Najee Harris (8)
15. Aaron Jones (16)
16. James Conner (9), doesn't seem like its happening, especially in the receiving game. He's still a solid starter, but I was thinking he was gonna be closer to last season, obviously with fewer TDs, but with more yardage.
17. David Montgomery (18)
18. Breece Hall (23)
19. Rhamondre Stevenson (12), still really like him, but RB12 was probably a bit much. Still think he's slowly breaking away from Harris, the TDs are just masking it a bit.
20. Miles Sanders (27)
21. Devin Singletary (26)
22. Dameon Pierce (30)
23. JK Dobbins (NR), naturally breaks out right after I drop him off the list. If he can have another top-10 week he'll move even higher. RB is pretty nebulous, after about RB9.
24. Clyde Edwards-Helaire (25)
25. Melvin Gordon (NR), have to think he gets every opportunity to be a 65% guy. Fumbles need to stop, or it could devolve into a potentially useless RBBC.
26. James Robinson (21)
27. Jeff Wilson (24)
28. Ezekiel Elliott (28)
29. Cam Akers (29)
30. AJ Dillon (19), been basically an albatross since week 1. Packers offense has been somewhat allergic to the goal line, as all the TD's are seemingly from at least 10 yards out.
Dropped off: Cordarrelle Patterson (15), this one hurts, Patterson was 3rd in rushing going into last week. I'm expecting a multi-man RBBC in his absence, with nobody being all that useful. Javonte Williams (17), he was starting to pull away from Gordon too. Hate to see these things happen to such obviously great talents. Kareem Hunt (22), probably overreacting to Chubb getting kinda lucky with the TDs, but like Dillon, Hunt hasn't been a good start since week 1.
 
WR:
1. Justin Jefferson (2)
2. Cooper Kupp (1)
3. Stefon Diggs (3)
4. CeeDee Lamb (4)
5. Ja'Marr Chase (5)
6. Davante Adams (8)
7. Tyreek Hill (6)
8. Amon-Ra St. Brown (7)
9. AJ Brown (9)
10. Jaylen Waddle (10)
11. DK Metcalf (27), turns out, he's not missing Russ at all. 22 targets the last games, and most of them have been either deep shots or endzone targets.
12. Tee Higgins (15)
13. Mike Evans (11)
14. Courtland Sutton (14)
15. Christian Kirk (13)
16. Deebo Samuel (18)
17. Michael Pittman (12)
18. Mike Williams (17)
19. Keenan Allen (19)
20. Hollywood Brown (28), been useful every week, and back-to-back top-10 weeks. Its probably time to wonder if he's gonna be more of a 1B when Hopkins comes back.
21. DeAndre Hopkins (21)
22. Terry McLaurin (16), Wentz is coming back down to earth, and while McLaurin should see a bigger share with Dotson banged up, its also possible/likely Washington decides to be more run heavy, with Robinson coming back to assist in that endeavor.
23. Michael Thomas (25)
24. Chris Godwin (20)
25. Amari Cooper (30)
26. Drake London (22)
27. DeVonta Smith (23)
28. Chris Olave (26)
29. Tyler Lockett (38), its possible I'm overreacting to Seattle playing well against Atlanta and especially Detroit, but its more likely I was overreacting to the loss of Wilson, and this is actually a decent offense, that mostly runs through 3 guys.
30. Curtis Samuel (29)
31. DJ Moore (32)
32. Diontae Johnson (24), possible overreaction, but Pickett sure didn't have eyes for Johnson, who has gotten by mostly on volume in his career.
33. Brandin Cooks (36)
34. Jerry Jeudy (34)
35. Gabriel Davis (33)
36. Rashod Bateman (31)
37. JuJu Smith-Schuster (39)
38. Adam Thielen (NR), back-to-back top-20 weeks has Thielen back on the list.
39. Garrett Wilson (37)
40. Romeo Doubs (NR), back-to-back top-20 weeks and a huge 25% target share. I'm probably being too cautious only putting him at 40th, but Rodgers doghouse is always open.
Dropped off: Elijah Moore (35), Jets are a bit of a cluster with Zach back. Patience has been running low on a guy who hasn't been a worthwhile starter for even 1 week. Michael Gallup (40), encouraging return last week, it came down to him or Doubs for the final spot.
 
TE:
1. Mark Andrews (1)
2. Travis Kelce (2)
3. Darren Waller (3)
4. George Kittle (5)
5. TJ Hockenson (8), was it because Amon-Ra and Chark were out, or was this game brewing all along? Goff and Hock had some near misses the first few games, so did they finally get on the same page? Would that monster game had been St. Brown's if he'd been playing? I think the answer to all those questions is maybe, so I'm hedging and putting him 5th at a very thin at the top position.
6. Dallas Goedert (6)
7. Zach Ertz (9)
8. Kyle Pitts (4), not really sure what Arthur Smith is doing with him. Why take him #4 if you aren't going to feature him? That pick could have been Sewell, or Chase? All that said, TE is such that 1 great game could get him back to the top-4 really quick, so I don't wanna go too low on him.
9. Dalton Schultz (7)
10. David Njoku (12)
11. Pat Freiermuth (10)
12. Gerald Everett (13)
13. Tyler Higbee (11)
14. Tyler Conklin (15)
15. Dawson Knox (NR), a little more involved last week. With all the non-Diggs WRs banged up around him, he could see a little more work. He's certainly due for some TDs.
Dropped off: Evan Engram (14), maybe the most consistently inconsistent player ever. Looked solid the 1st 2 weeks, has 2 catches since.
 
Interesting that you have Jefferson over kupp. Right now, kupp is probably the best player to own in fantasy football. What’s your thinking on Jefferson over him?
I think the Vikings offense is better than the Rams and see no reason why that will change. I also think, due to that, Jefferson is a better bet for bigger weeks, and bigger plays. I'm expecting Kupp to have more games a little like that SF game, which are excellent in PPR, and just good otherwise. Not hating on Kupp by any means, he'll probably be more consistent, but I don't see as much upside with him.
 
Nice work.

Like the Hollywood bump up. Probably safe bets having him Brown/Hopkins in 20 area. I think at least one is Top 15 Week 7 on (when Hopkins returns).

(PPR) I have both Higbee and Everett in my top 6 TEs in weekly leagues. Funny how they used to be teammates and people had high fantasy expectations for them. I just don't see what changes that Higbee gets much less targets. He's had at least 9 targets in 3 of 4 games. I mean maybe Van Jefferson when he returns? Herbert absolutely loves Everett. May lose targets to Allen......but I think Everett will get some of Palmer's work TBH. Kittle will likely have a couple huge games but no shot I could put him #4. (I'd have no problem swapping him and Everett/Higbee spots). If I'm ranking #3 in weekly PPR leagues (not best ball) it's probably one of Hock/Higbee/Everett. Could make argument for Ertz but think Moore/Hop take a bit from him.

(PPR) I have Kupp #1 overall fantasy. I don't think it's close personally. Mixon is averaging like 2.5 ypc more than you/me.
 
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Interesting that you have Jefferson over kupp. Right now, kupp is probably the best player to own in fantasy football. What’s your thinking on Jefferson over him?
I think the Vikings offense is better than the Rams and see no reason why that will change. I also think, due to that, Jefferson is a better bet for bigger weeks, and bigger plays. I'm expecting Kupp to have more games a little like that SF game, which are excellent in PPR, and just good otherwise. Not hating on Kupp by any means, he'll probably be more consistent, but I don't see as much upside with him.
I think it's format-dependent. In PPR I'd rather have Kupp. In standard I'd rather have Jefferson.
 
No Aaron Rodgers? I get he doesn’t have the top end receivers, and they will turn more run heavy as it gets colder, but he’s Aaron freaking Rodgers.
 
Nice work.

Like the Hollywood bump up. Probably safe bets having him Brown/Hopkins in 20 area. I think at least one is Top 15 Week 7 on (when Hopkins returns).

(PPR) I have both Higbee and Everett in my top 6 TEs in weekly leagues. Funny how they used to be teammates and people had high fantasy expectations for them. I just don't see what changes that Higbee gets much less targets. He's had at least 9 targets in 3 of 4 games. I mean maybe Van Jefferson when he returns? Herbert absolutely loves Everett. May lose targets to Allen......but I think Everett will get some of Palmer's work TBH. Kittle will likely have a couple huge games but no shot I could put him #4. (I'd have no problem swapping him and Everett/Higbee spots). If I'm ranking #3 in weekly PPR leagues (not best ball) it's probably one of Hock/Higbee/Everett. Could make argument for Ertz but think Moore/Hop take a bit from him.

(PPR) I have Kupp #1 overall fantasy. I don't think it's close personally. Mixon is averaging like 2.5 ypc more than you/me.
Cards passing game has been buy-low pretty much all season. I know I talk about it enough in the Murray thread, but I'm not sure there is a more underrated player in the NFL than Kyler Murray. I think that might just be a thing for this untraditional QBs. Wilson went through it, Lamar went through it, now it seems like Kyler is.

I'm trying to thread the needle between PPR and standard, so Higbee in particular would probably be a little higher in full PPR. That said, I haven't been impressed by him at all, he's a catch and fall guy right now, and while that has value, I can't help but feel like we are currently seeing him at pretty much his ceiling. In Everett's case, I just think he takes a step back when Allen comes back. Like I said, TE after 3 is pretty nebulous. I noticed you didn't mention Waller. Man, I think he may be the best buy-low in all of fantasy right now. He's been so unlucky, he could easily have 5+ TDs right now, instead of the 1 he has.

I have CMC #1 overall personally. Mixon has been very inefficient, but he's also on pace for over 400 touches. He's been stuffed a bunch at the goal line too, I think he's a good regression to the mean candidate.
 
No Aaron Rodgers? I get he doesn’t have the top end receivers, and they will turn more run heavy as it gets colder, but he’s Aaron freaking Rodgers.
I totally forgot to mention him in the falling off section. I just am not seeing an upside with him. He hasn't been a good start in any of these 1st 4 weeks, and while he's still startable, I'd rather take my chances with higher ceiling options. More so than any other position, QB is where floor is basically meaningless in my opinion.
 
Interesting that you have Jefferson over kupp. Right now, kupp is probably the best player to own in fantasy football. What’s your thinking on Jefferson over him?
I think the Vikings offense is better than the Rams and see no reason why that will change. I also think, due to that, Jefferson is a better bet for bigger weeks, and bigger plays. I'm expecting Kupp to have more games a little like that SF game, which are excellent in PPR, and just good otherwise. Not hating on Kupp by any means, he'll probably be more consistent, but I don't see as much upside with him.
Kupp has an amazing floor but Jefferson will have more high ceiling games. Teams are content with letting the Rams dink and dunk down the field with Kupp and Higbee. When they get into the red zone teams can tighten up since it's less possible for Kupp to get behind them. They have no fear of the Rams running game. Stafford knows his line sucks so he's immediately looking for Kupp. I'd look for Kupps ADOT to continue to shrink throughout the season.
 
probably my favorite topic each week

chubb seems low but not sure who I would bump ahead of him - maybe cook
Thanks!

Chubb is a really tough case, because he's been on such a run of positive variance. He's only playing barely over 50% of the snaps, he has 6 catches, and isn't the GL RB either. Hunt has had multiple carries inside the 10, where he's been stopped and Chubb has scored the next play these last 3 games, in week 1 Chubb got stopped, and Hunt scored. I want to have Chubb higher, I think he's the best pure runner in the NFL, but it just feels like his production is a bit fluky. Not to the CEH, or Jamaal Williams levels, but it just feels unsustainable.

Chubb is a guy who can make all that logic look stupid and overanalytical, but he'd be bucking a lot of trends and history if he stayed at his current usage and finished as a top-5 RB, let alone #1 or #2.
 
16. James Conner (9), doesn't seem like its happening, especially in the receiving game. He's still a solid starter, but I was thinking he was gonna be closer to last season, obviously with fewer TDs, but with more yardage.
I'm still going lower with Conner. Talk about 2 yards and a cloud of dust. He is by far the slowest RB. I do think he may become more useful once Hopkins gets back assuming they are able to get into more scoring situations.

If you have to play him don't watch.
 
40. Romeo Doubs (NR), back-to-back top-20 weeks and a huge 25% target share. I'm probably being too cautious only putting him at 40th, but Rodgers doghouse is always open.
He came super close to a second long TD. He looks a lot like D Adams near the goal line. He gets a lot of the easy targets allowing him to run after the catch. I think he is here to stay. I don't think you can move him up march farther than he is now. If he has another solid week I can see him moving up about 5 spots.
 
1. Josh Allen (3)
2. Lamar Jackson (1)
3. Jalen Hurts (2)
4. Kyler Murray (4)
5. Justin Herbert (6)
6. Patrick Mahomes (5)
7. Joe Burrow (7)
8. Tom Brady (NR), after the top-7, the next dozen or so are basically a tier. If anyone is breaking through, I'll bet on the pass heavy HOF'er with top notch WRs.
9. Russell Wilson (NR), hey there he is, finally feel like I saw Russell Wilson for the first time this season. Offense could be more pass heavy without Williams.
10. Dak Prescott (NR), back either this week or next, he slots back into where I had him in the preseason.
This seems right. Any QB below these guy's is garbage for fantasy. Russ has been garbage but it's just a matter of time before he gets it going.

Kyler and the Cardinals have looked horrific and yet he's QB 6 for the year. Just wait until he gets Hopkins back and R Moore is fully healthy. I could see a QB one finish for him. He'll always have positive come from behind game scripts. Josh, Lamar and Jalen are on teams that may not have to keep their foot on the pedal the whole game.

I think all of the top ten QB's could finish hot.
 
Interesting that you have Jefferson over kupp. Right now, kupp is probably the best player to own in fantasy football. What’s your thinking on Jefferson over him?
I think the Vikings offense is better than the Rams and see no reason why that will change. I also think, due to that, Jefferson is a better bet for bigger weeks, and bigger plays. I'm expecting Kupp to have more games a little like that SF game, which are excellent in PPR, and just good otherwise. Not hating on Kupp by any means, he'll probably be more consistent, but I don't see as much upside with him.
Closer than I thought...

Kupp on pace for 179/1708/12

Jefferson's pace 179/1670/9.5
 
Kupp has an amazing floor but Jefferson will have more high ceiling games. Teams are content with letting the Rams dink and dunk down the field with Kupp and Higbee. When they get into the red zone teams can tighten up since it's less possible for Kupp to get behind them. They have no fear of the Rams running game. Stafford knows his line sucks so he's immediately looking for Kupp. I'd look for Kupps ADOT to continue to shrink throughout the season.
Not so sure about this. A.Robinson is getting the red headed stepchild treatment
 
Kupp has an amazing floor but Jefferson will have more high ceiling games. Teams are content with letting the Rams dink and dunk down the field with Kupp and Higbee. When they get into the red zone teams can tighten up since it's less possible for Kupp to get behind them. They have no fear of the Rams running game. Stafford knows his line sucks so he's immediately looking for Kupp. I'd look for Kupps ADOT to continue to shrink throughout the season.
Not so sure about this. A.Robinson is getting the red headed stepchild treatment
And in V.Jefferson's mini breakout last year he averaged 3/51 per game
 
Kittle is not 4, he's not even 14. He is a blocker now that catches 2-3 passes a game
He's played 2 games, and he caught 4 in 1 of them, so 2-3 passes a game is hyperbole.

He's still rounding into health, and he's always been a bit boom/bust. I'd feel quite fine with him as my TE1, and think he's not the worst buy-low if owners are worried he's just an athletic OT now.

Goff not one of the top 15 QBs?

Man, what's a guy gotta do?
Put 2 weeks together? He's basically alternated between meh games and good ones.

He's in that tier with guys like Carr and Cousins for me, I just trust them a little more, because they don't have a history of suddenly looking awful that Goff does. He's not far from the top-15.

I will say this, if he gets both St. Brown and Hockenson playing well together, then he's got a big upside, and then whenever Jameson shows up, he could hit the top-10. But that's like 3 things, 1st let's see him string 2 games together.
 
RB:
1. Christian McCaffrey (1)
2. Jonathan Taylor (2)
3. Saquon Barkley (3)
4. Austin Ekeler (7)
5. Derrick Henry (6)
6. Dalvin Cook (4)
7. Joe Mixon (10)
8. D'Andre Swift (5)
9. Nick Chubb (11)
10. Alvin Kamara (14)
11. Leonard Fournette (13)
12. Josh Jacobs (20), I've always thought Jacobs is one of the best RBs in the NFL, he just got hurt from being in bad offenses, and getting banged up a lot, leading to others getting involved. That said, last week he saw a career high in both touches and snaps. It was a Barkley level workload. If I had any faith it wasn't a 1-week thing, he'd be in the top-10.
13. Rashaad Penny (NR), this week's flag plant is a RB who is averaging over 6 YPC in his last 10 games and is seeing 2/3rds snaps on an offense we clearly all underrated. Talent has never been the issue, just health.
14. Najee Harris (8)
15. Aaron Jones (16)
16. James Conner (9), doesn't seem like its happening, especially in the receiving game. He's still a solid starter, but I was thinking he was gonna be closer to last season, obviously with fewer TDs, but with more yardage.
17. David Montgomery (18)
18. Breece Hall (23)
19. Rhamondre Stevenson (12), still really like him, but RB12 was probably a bit much. Still think he's slowly breaking away from Harris, the TDs are just masking it a bit.
20. Miles Sanders (27)
21. Devin Singletary (26)
22. Dameon Pierce (30)
23. JK Dobbins (NR), naturally breaks out right after I drop him off the list. If he can have another top-10 week he'll move even higher. RB is pretty nebulous, after about RB9.
24. Clyde Edwards-Helaire (25)
25. Melvin Gordon (NR), have to think he gets every opportunity to be a 65% guy. Fumbles need to stop, or it could devolve into a potentially useless RBBC.
26. James Robinson (21)
27. Jeff Wilson (24)
28. Ezekiel Elliott (28)
29. Cam Akers (29)
30. AJ Dillon (19), been basically an albatross since week 1. Packers offense has been somewhat allergic to the goal line, as all the TD's are seemingly from at least 10 yards out.
Dropped off: Cordarrelle Patterson (15), this one hurts, Patterson was 3rd in rushing going into last week. I'm expecting a multi-man RBBC in his absence, with nobody being all that useful. Javonte Williams (17), he was starting to pull away from Gordon too. Hate to see these things happen to such obviously great talents. Kareem Hunt (22), probably overreacting to Chubb getting kinda lucky with the TDs, but like Dillon, Hunt hasn't been a good start since week 1.
Kinda wondering about Montgomery even when healthy at RB #17 with a pesky and shifty K Herbert lurking. The Bears brass has no loyalty to him. Perhaps one of these RB's in Chicago get traded as well. And I see James Robinson dropping a tad, perhaps with Etienne on the rise some. My potential trade offer involves these two. Scenario - their team has Montgomery, J Williams (now out for ROS), and T Etienne. My team has Herbert (picked off waivers for a steal lol) and Robinson (another free waiver wire pick up after week 1). How would you rank the 4 moving forward, who would you most like to own (Montgomery, Robinson, Herbert, Etienne?), and what about the handcuff situation. Which duo, Montgomery & Herbert or Robinson & Etienne would you most like to own? Me thinks CHI RB's. And finally would you trade Robinson for Montgomery straight up to the owner who just lost J Williams? Robinson has a spicy matchup this week for a rebound and would likely be my RB #2 / Flex this week.

Edit: Or stand pat and do nothing. Keep Robinson and Herbert. My other RB's are Swift, Chubb, Dillon, Pierce. Certainly healthy at RB but it's a long season and handcuffs start to enter the equation early.

Edit #2: FBG's ROS point rankings have J Robinson @ 158 averaging 12.14 points per game and Montgomery totaling in @ 114 averaging 9.47 ppg. Tells me NO trade for these two straight up.
 
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Kupp has an amazing floor but Jefferson will have more high ceiling games. Teams are content with letting the Rams dink and dunk down the field with Kupp and Higbee. When they get into the red zone teams can tighten up since it's less possible for Kupp to get behind them. They have no fear of the Rams running game. Stafford knows his line sucks so he's immediately looking for Kupp. I'd look for Kupps ADOT to continue to shrink throughout the season.
Not so sure about this. A.Robinson is getting the red headed stepchild treatment
AROB has nothing to do with this.
 
Kupp has an amazing floor but Jefferson will have more high ceiling games. Teams are content with letting the Rams dink and dunk down the field with Kupp and Higbee. When they get into the red zone teams can tighten up since it's less possible for Kupp to get behind them. They have no fear of the Rams running game. Stafford knows his line sucks so he's immediately looking for Kupp. I'd look for Kupps ADOT to continue to shrink throughout the season.
Not so sure about this. A.Robinson is getting the red headed stepchild treatment
AROB has nothing to do with this.

I'm with you on this. I think SF sent the Rams a message - and the message is coach needs variety to the offense (running game and passing game). Cutting Arob today but I actually think his numbers tick up - while the other guys take a slight hit.
 
4. Kyler Murray (4)
5. Justin Herbert (6)
6. Patrick Mahomes (5)
still at it huh? :lol:
It’s odd that you’re so hung up on this on a weekly basis. It’s a matter of preference between two QBs that had the exact some ppg last season in a 5pt per passing touchdown league. One of these two is obviously a much better actual QB, though he lost his biggest playmaker for this season which won’t help. The other one isn’t as elite of a talent as an actual QB, but since we are talking fantasy football he adds rushing upside, added a playmaking WR to his core, and gets his most reliable WR back in a few weeks.

It’s not an egregious ranking at all, especially if it’s a 4pt per passing TD league. In that case I lean Murray. In 5pt, flip a coin. In 6pt, I go with Mahomes.
 
4. Kyler Murray (4)
5. Justin Herbert (6)
6. Patrick Mahomes (5)
still at it huh? :lol:
It’s odd that you’re so hung up on this on a weekly basis. It’s a matter of preference between two QBs that had the exact some ppg last season in a 5pt per passing touchdown league. One of these two is obviously a much better actual QB, though he lost his biggest playmaker for this season which won’t help. The other one isn’t as elite of a talent as an actual QB, but since we are talking fantasy football he adds rushing upside, added a playmaking WR to his core, and gets his most reliable WR back in a few weeks.

It’s not an egregious ranking at all, especially if it’s a 4pt per passing TD league. In that case I lean Murray. In 5pt, flip a coin. In 6pt, I go with Mahomes.
This is only the second time I've mentioned it in 4 weeks of rankings. It's odd you're so hung up on what I posted.
 
4. Kyler Murray (4)
5. Justin Herbert (6)
6. Patrick Mahomes (5)
still at it huh? :lol:
It’s odd that you’re so hung up on this on a weekly basis. It’s a matter of preference between two QBs that had the exact some ppg last season in a 5pt per passing touchdown league. One of these two is obviously a much better actual QB, though he lost his biggest playmaker for this season which won’t help. The other one isn’t as elite of a talent as an actual QB, but since we are talking fantasy football he adds rushing upside, added a playmaking WR to his core, and gets his most reliable WR back in a few weeks.

It’s not an egregious ranking at all, especially if it’s a 4pt per passing TD league. In that case I lean Murray. In 5pt, flip a coin. In 6pt, I go with Mahomes.
This is only the second time I've mentioned it in 4 weeks of rankings. It's odd you're so hung up on what I posted.
See you again in a couple weeks. :bye:
 
RB:
1. Christian McCaffrey (1)
2. Jonathan Taylor (2)
3. Saquon Barkley (3)
4. Austin Ekeler (7)
5. Derrick Henry (6)
6. Dalvin Cook (4)
7. Joe Mixon (10)
8. D'Andre Swift (5)
9. Nick Chubb (11)
10. Alvin Kamara (14)
11. Leonard Fournette (13)
12. Josh Jacobs (20), I've always thought Jacobs is one of the best RBs in the NFL, he just got hurt from being in bad offenses, and getting banged up a lot, leading to others getting involved. That said, last week he saw a career high in both touches and snaps. It was a Barkley level workload. If I had any faith it wasn't a 1-week thing, he'd be in the top-10.
13. Rashaad Penny (NR), this week's flag plant is a RB who is averaging over 6 YPC in his last 10 games and is seeing 2/3rds snaps on an offense we clearly all underrated. Talent has never been the issue, just health.
14. Najee Harris (8)
15. Aaron Jones (16)
16. James Conner (9), doesn't seem like its happening, especially in the receiving game. He's still a solid starter, but I was thinking he was gonna be closer to last season, obviously with fewer TDs, but with more yardage.
17. David Montgomery (18)
18. Breece Hall (23)
19. Rhamondre Stevenson (12), still really like him, but RB12 was probably a bit much. Still think he's slowly breaking away from Harris, the TDs are just masking it a bit.
20. Miles Sanders (27)
21. Devin Singletary (26)
22. Dameon Pierce (30)
23. JK Dobbins (NR), naturally breaks out right after I drop him off the list. If he can have another top-10 week he'll move even higher. RB is pretty nebulous, after about RB9.
24. Clyde Edwards-Helaire (25)
25. Melvin Gordon (NR), have to think he gets every opportunity to be a 65% guy. Fumbles need to stop, or it could devolve into a potentially useless RBBC.
26. James Robinson (21)
27. Jeff Wilson (24)
28. Ezekiel Elliott (28)
29. Cam Akers (29)
30. AJ Dillon (19), been basically an albatross since week 1. Packers offense has been somewhat allergic to the goal line, as all the TD's are seemingly from at least 10 yards out.
Dropped off: Cordarrelle Patterson (15), this one hurts, Patterson was 3rd in rushing going into last week. I'm expecting a multi-man RBBC in his absence, with nobody being all that useful. Javonte Williams (17), he was starting to pull away from Gordon too. Hate to see these things happen to such obviously great talents. Kareem Hunt (22), probably overreacting to Chubb getting kinda lucky with the TDs, but like Dillon, Hunt hasn't been a good start since week 1.
Kinda wondering about Montgomery even when healthy at RB #17 with a pesky and shifty K Herbert lurking. The Bears brass has no loyalty to him. Perhaps one of these RB's in Chicago get traded as well. And I see James Robinson dropping a tad, perhaps with Etienne on the rise some. My potential trade offer involves these two. Scenario - their team has Montgomery, J Williams (now out for ROS), and T Etienne. My team has Herbert (picked off waivers for a steal lol) and Robinson (another free waiver wire pick up after week 1). How would you rank the 4 moving forward, who would you most like to own (Montgomery, Robinson, Herbert, Etienne?), and what about the handcuff situation. Which duo, Montgomery & Herbert or Robinson & Etienne would you most like to own? Me thinks CHI RB's. And finally would you trade Robinson for Montgomery straight up to the owner who just lost J Williams? Robinson has a spicy matchup this week for a rebound and would likely be my RB #2 / Flex this week.

Edit: Or stand pat and do nothing. Keep Robinson and Herbert. My other RB's are Swift, Chubb, Dillon, Pierce. Certainly healthy at RB but it's a long season and handcuffs start to enter the equation early.

Edit #2: FBG's ROS point rankings have J Robinson @ 158 averaging 12.14 points per game and Montgomery totaling in @ 114 averaging 9.47 ppg. Tells me NO trade for these two straight up.
I would prefer the Bears duo, but I think Montgomery straight up for Robinson isn't a trade you should do right now, unless the other owner threw in some more, because like you said, Robinson is a solid start this week, and they are pretty desperate. If it were Robinson for Montgomery and another starting caliber player, I could see it.

As much as I like Herbert, I don't see him having done enough to take Montgomery's job. Montgomery is a coach's favorite who does all the little things, and unfortunately for Herbert, his weaknesses are in the passing game, where he will certainly lose work to Montgomery. Its possible it becomes a 50-50 rushing split, with Montgomery handling all the passing game work, but before Montgomery got hurt, it was very much a 2-1 split.

I think Robinson/Etienne is a pretty simple backfield to understand. Robinson stacks carries in wins and is a huge bust risk in losses. In theory, Etienne should have more value when the Jags are losing, but we haven't really seen that happen yet.
 
TE:

4. George Kittle (5)
Don't understand this. He seems like an afterthought in the current state of the SF offense.
I think he's still rounding into health and will be used more going forward. Also a bet on track record and talent level. After the top-3 (and even Waller has been a little disappointing) it's kind of a mess.
Less to do with Kittle's health, more to do with the health of San Francisco's offensive line. Kiittle has more value blocking until Trent Williams returns. Hopefully mid-November
 
4. Kyler Murray (4)
5. Justin Herbert (6)
6. Patrick Mahomes (5)
still at it huh? :lol:
They are 10 points apart right now. Tyreek Hill isn't walking through that door, DeAndre Hopkins is.

Hopkins was used a little less than usual last year, but was on pace for 114 targets, 80 catches, 1,020 yards, and 17 TDs. That's basically Mike Evans numbers.

Similar logic with Herbert over Mahomes too. He's 12 points behind Mahomes, and he'll get Keenan Allen back.
 
18. Breece Hall (23)

20. Miles Sanders (27)

23. JK Dobbins (NR), naturally breaks out right after I drop him off the list. If he can have another top-10 week he'll move even higher. RB is pretty nebulous, after about RB9.

30. AJ Dillon (19), been basically an albatross since week 1. Packers offense has been somewhat allergic to the goal line, as all the TD's are seemingly from at least 10 yards out.

Trying to work on a trade and my opponent has basically offered me my choice of any of these 4. I think I agree that Dillon is the lowest mainly just because he's still ceding so much work to Jones. I haven't sat down and ranked 1-30 myself but Sanders and Dobbins are basically the same guy to me. Both going to lose some rushing TD's to their QB, but both attached to good offenses and they'll get a steadier volume. How strong is your feeling about Breece being the highest? Only two spots higher, I get it, but still.....
 
Goff not one of the top 15 QBs?

Man, what's a guy gotta do?
Yeah I was going to post the same. Goff isn’t a great NFL QB but he has a lot of weapons. He also has a D that blows so he will throw a lot.
I would push back a little by pointing out that he didn't have great skill position talent around him last week. He had Hock and a buncha guys who would be JAGs on any other roster.

The other points are spot on however. What makes him a potential top 10 finisher this year is arguably the best o-line in the league, a very bad defense and, maybe (at least judging by the early returns) one of the better young offensive minds coordinating the game plan. ARSB & Swift are the icing & cherry on top.

There is reason to pump the breaks just a little however as they have only faced one good defense so far in Philly and that was week one when things are less solidified. They have games against GB, BUF & JAX (thankfully at home) and DAL on the road. Plus two top 10 pass D's on the road in NYG & CHI.

But things are definitely pointing up for Goff & the Detroit offense.
 
18. Breece Hall (23)

20. Miles Sanders (27)

23. JK Dobbins (NR), naturally breaks out right after I drop him off the list. If he can have another top-10 week he'll move even higher. RB is pretty nebulous, after about RB9.

30. AJ Dillon (19), been basically an albatross since week 1. Packers offense has been somewhat allergic to the goal line, as all the TD's are seemingly from at least 10 yards out.

Trying to work on a trade and my opponent has basically offered me my choice of any of these 4. I think I agree that Dillon is the lowest mainly just because he's still ceding so much work to Jones. I haven't sat down and ranked 1-30 myself but Sanders and Dobbins are basically the same guy to me. Both going to lose some rushing TD's to their QB, but both attached to good offenses and they'll get a steadier volume. How strong is your feeling about Breece being the highest? Only two spots higher, I get it, but still.....
I feel very comfortable calling Hall the most talented RB of the 4. He's also been a top-15 RB every week except week 1. The case for Hall is that he can easily be the centerpiece of his offense, which is an upside none of the other 3 have. He's also on the worst offense, which is why its close, but I do prefer him.

I would agree that Sanders/Dobbins are pretty similar. Trust Philly's OL more than Baltimore's, and I'm not concerned, but curious, about what Gus Edwards role will be. So that's why Sanders is ahead of Dobbins.
 
No love for Will Dissly? In the baron TE landscape, he deserves to be on the list. Very consistent thus far. Not huge volume but is a red zone target and Geno looks for him.
 
What has Kamara done since last week or actually this entire season to warrant a top 10 ranking. You put him 4 spots higher since last week?

No Goff! Top 10 imo with that defense or lack thereof, he is going to continue to have to throw.
 
No love for Will Dissly? In the baron TE landscape, he deserves to be on the list. Very consistent thus far. Not huge volume but is a red zone target and Geno looks for him.
No love at all. 3 targets a game, if he doesn't get a TD he's worthless, and he's splitting snaps 50-50 with Fant. Truthfully, if I went to 20, I still wouldn't have included Dissly.

What has Kamara done since last week or actually this entire season to warrant a top 10 ranking. You put him 4 spots higher since last week?

No Goff! Top 10 imo with that defense or lack thereof, he is going to continue to have to throw.
I'm not ready to go that high with Goff, not with his track record. If we're being honest, all the things that apply to Goff, also apply to Geno Smith, who I'm also not ready to put up there yet. But both are close.

Kamara went up because I needed to lower Najee and Conner. Also, the offense in general has been pretty solid, despite all the injuries, so when they are healthy, I think Kamara could have some nice value, same goes for Michael Thomas, and why I moved him up slightly too.
 
No love at all. 3 targets a game, if he doesn't get a TD he's worthless, and he's splitting snaps 50-50 with Fant. Truthfully, if I went to 20, I still wouldn't have included Dissly.
I get it but at TE even with those 30+ yds and decent chance at a TD each week I would have him in the conversation. TE is that bad.
 

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