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[jfranco77]

OK, this is the monster WIS thread that has links to all of the how-to guides and detailed explanations:

https://www.whatifsports.com/forums/Posts.aspx?TopicID=462961&TopicsTimeframe=30

Some ones that are probably most useful:

Advice for newbies: https://www.whatifsports.com/forums/Posts.aspx?ForumID=3&TopicID=474014&page=1#l_10369725

Pitching fatigue:

https://www.whatifsports.com/forums/Posts.aspx?TopicID=434633

What is really great range really worth? Warning lots of math

https://www.whatifsports.com/forums/Posts.aspx?topicID=420094&page=4

Sadly there isn't a really, really basic thread that I can find. So if you have questions just ask.

 

[the moops]

hows that eligible player database coming along?

 

[jfranco77]

If needed I'll take a 2nd team. There is an 18 team format which is 2 divisions and the winners play in the WS. In other words, 2 playoff teams.

This article lists all the possible formats.

https://www.whatifsports.com/knowledgebase/KB_Article_Details.aspx?kbid=729

20 teams, 4 divisions, no wild cards might be the best bet if we can get there

 

[jfranco77]

hows that eligible player database coming along?

About 70% done with hitters, haven't started pitchers yet.

 

[oso diablo]

let's draft

 

[Doug B]

About 70% done with hitters, haven't started pitchers yet.

Making sure I have this correct:

1) Filter by the years 1901-2015, inclusive

2) These seven team names only:

---- Brooklyn Superbas

---- Brooklyn Robins

---- Brooklyn Dodgers

---- New York Highanders

---- New York Yankees

---- New York Giants

---- New York Mets

Still no Federal Leaguers, right?

 

[the moops]

1920-2015

 

[Doug B]

1920-2015

Thanks ... overlooked that despite just now checking the OP

Well, no need to worry about the Superbas or the Highlanders, then. Or the Feds. Still got a dozen seasons worth of Brooklyn Robins to sort through.

 

[jfranco77]

1920-2015

Thanks ... overlooked that despite just now checking the OP

Well, no need to worry about the Superbas or the Highlanders, then. Or the Feds. Still got a dozen seasons worth of Brooklyn Robins to sort through.

Also, season type should be full/partial. We're taking out the combined seasons.

 

[Kraft...]

We are allowing partials?

 

[Koya]

1920-2015

Thanks ... overlooked that despite just now checking the OP

Well, no need to worry about the Superbas or the Highlanders, then. Or the Feds. Still got a dozen seasons worth of Brooklyn Robins to sort through.

Also, season type should be full/partial. We're taking out the combined seasons.

We are allowing partials?

whoa whoa.. this is not my understanding. in fact we earlier talked just the opposite. Cespedes was the example. must use full season, but as a Met.

 

[Koya]

We are allowing partials?

NO PARTIALS.

Must use full season, but as the NY player.

 

[jfranco77]

I thought we wanted to get only the Met part... hence the partial. Either way is fine with me but I need to know what I should leave in the spreadsheet.

 

[Koya]

Your roll results:
266 Your total roll is 266.
An email copy of these roll results has been sent to the address specified.

Sent to El Moopster

 

[Koya]

If someone less lazy than I could kindly provide the rolls list, I'll gladly cut and paste into the OPS (Original PostS)

/ delegation

 

[Koya]

I thought we wanted to get only the Met part... hence the partial. Either way is fine with me but I need to know what I should leave in the spreadsheet.

I'm also open to either, and it's an interesting proposition.

What are others thoughts on this? I'd want to go back and edit the posts in the thread to not confuse if peeps prefer partials.

SPEAK NOW #####ES

 

[the moops]

Your roll results:

266 Your total roll is 266.

An email copy of these roll results has been sent to the address specified.

Sent to El Moopster

confirmed

 

[Koya]

This is what I have so far, who is missing?

23 Socal
122 Tre(via moops)
199 Kraft
229 moops

244 Chem "Generation" X

266 Koya
280 DougB
352 Getzlaf15
383 Acer
463 Bogy

5?? Big Tatas (DD)
655 Hoos
793 oso
900 rodg
927 jfranco

 

[Koya]

Still could use someone to roll for me. The weird site Koya found is blocked.

Blame Chem X.

Seriously.

ETA: He rolled a 244.

 

[Kraft...]

No partials, tradition

 

[Koya]

No partials, tradition

Tradition is me winning the World Series too... but we see what just happened with RnR.

 

[rodg12]

No partials

 

[Doug B]

What are others thoughts on [partial seasons]? I'd want to go back and edit the posts in the thread to not confuse if peeps prefer partials.

SPEAK NOW #####ES

I did my analysis without partial seasons, but including combined seasons. Still, I can go either way. Given a yes/no vote ... I'd vote with tradition to exclude partial seasons.

 

[Koya]

Looking like tradition is well in the lead.

 

[rodg12]

This player pool is not nearly as deep as I was initially expecting.

 

[Eephus]

This player pool is not nearly as deep as I was initially expecting.

226 team seasons is about the equivalent of a 14 year long pre-expansion draft pool or 7 years in the modern era. I haven't looked into it in detail but my guess is a lot of the top players had high longevity with the NY teams, which would diminish the pool a bit. The Mets and Dodgers also had long stretches with pretty poor teams.

 

[Eephus]

BTW, I'm not wavering on signing up. Everybody went home early on the East Coast so it's really slow at work.

 

[oso diablo]

i vote for NY-only partials. it makes sense in this format.

 

[oso diablo]

This is what I have so far, who is missing?

23 Socal

122 Tre(via moops)

199 Kraft

229 moops

244 Chem "Generation" X

266 Koya

280 DougB

352 Getzlaf15

383 Acer

463 Bogy

5?? Big Tatas (DD)

655 Hoos

793 oso

900 rodg

927 jfranco

RnR had a 221 per his earlier post

 

[oso diablo]

This player pool is not nearly as deep as I was initially expecting.

we've got 16 rolls. let's get going with that. also matches the # of MLB teams during the NY golden era (early 50s)

 

[the moops]

i vote for NY-only partials. it makes sense in this format.

seconded

 

[jfranco77]

Pl

i vote for NY-only partials. it makes sense in this format.

seconded

Pitcher and hitter spreadsheets are done, except I haven't taken out whichever of these I need to take out.

Then I just need to figure out how/where to post them.

 

[SoCalBroncoFan]

No partials.

 

[oso diablo]

re: the partials...

probably just talking a very few batters and hitters, so not a big deal either way

 

[Koya]

Ok, looks like we got our 16. Only question is partials or no.

Executive decision - in THIS format, only NEW YORK PLAYERS PLAYING ON NY TEAMS.

NY Partials only for those players with a split season.

I think that means....

 

[Koya]

Can someone handle google doc? Ill link in the OP.

 

[oso diablo]

i count 10 stadiums that are NY related.

proposing that can only pick from these 10, and that no stadium can be picked more than twice.

stadiums

1. Washington Park III (Dodgers)

2. Ebbets Field (Dodgers)

3. Polo Grounds IV (Giants/Yankees)

4. Polo Ground V (Giants/Mets)

5. Shea (Mets)

6. Citifield (Mets)

7. Hilltop Park (Yankees)

8. Yankee Stadium I

9. Yankee Stadium II

10. Yankee Stadium III

 

[jfranco77]

OK let's see if this works. Zip file on my google docs that has 2 files - hitters spreadsheet and pitchers spreadsheet.

All players 1920-2015 who are '0' meaning full season or '1' meaning partial, who played for Brooklyn/New York.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxMvlyCRIZtHVGVSVXlobTlPZEk/view?usp=sharing

 

[AcerFC]

OK let's see if this works. Zip file on my google docs that has 2 files - hitters spreadsheet and pitchers spreadsheet.

All players 1920-2015 who are '0' meaning full season or '1' meaning partial, who played for Brooklyn/New York.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxMvlyCRIZtHVGVSVXlobTlPZEk/view?usp=sharing

whoa. Thx for this. Beats having to do it the old way

 

[SoCalBroncoFan]

i count 10 stadiums that are NY related.

proposing that can only pick from these 10, and that no stadium can be picked more than twice.

stadiums

1. Washington Park III (Dodgers)

2. Ebbets Field (Dodgers)

3. Polo Grounds IV (Giants/Yankees)

4. Polo Ground V (Giants/Mets)

5. Shea (Mets)

6. Citifield (Mets)

7. Hilltop Park (Yankees)

8. Yankee Stadium I

9. Yankee Stadium II

10. Yankee Stadium III

They are all relatively neutral and similiar, with the exception of Yankee Stadium III and Hilltop Park

 

[Koya]

i count 10 stadiums that are NY related.

proposing that can only pick from these 10, and that no stadium can be picked more than twice.

stadiums

1. Washington Park III (Dodgers)

2. Ebbets Field (Dodgers)

3. Polo Grounds IV (Giants/Yankees)

4. Polo Ground V (Giants/Mets)

5. Shea (Mets)

6. Citifield (Mets)

7. Hilltop Park (Yankees)

8. Yankee Stadium I

9. Yankee Stadium II

10. Yankee Stadium III

Works for me.

 

[the moops]

really think we should allow for partial seasons. we shouldn't be using stats from any non new York team.

 

[jfranco77]

really think we should allow for partial seasons. we shouldn't be using stats from any non new York team.

That's what we're doing. So for example, the only 2015 Cespedes you can use is the 250-whatever PA that he had for the Mets. Not the combined season of 600 (which is what we would normally use)

 

[the moops]

I cleaned things up a bit for hitters. Deleted some unnecessary columns. Here is a google doc sheet link

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NeQqRleXOeGKkT3qNqsbVjVCE0aX_oc9_IQRAJdk5Dg/edit?usp=sharing

If you are gonna sort and change and ####, make a copy so you dont #### it up for anyone else

 

[the moops]

really think we should allow for partial seasons. we shouldn't be using stats from any non new York team.

That's what we're doing. So for example, the only 2015 Cespedes you can use is the 250-whatever PA that he had for the Mets. Not the combined season of 600 (which is what we would normally use)

Yea. I think I misread.

 

[the moops]

and franco, thanks for getting the sheets together

 

[the moops]

pitcher google sheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qzVlRk7cRdJE6gAiHX-Upn11-aRVOMHEunCvskcvDVs/edit?usp=sharing

 

[SoCalBroncoFan]

Its too late to do it now, but it could have been fun to say that you have to draft 6 guys from each franchise. 6 Yankees, 6 Mets, 6 Dodgers and 6 Giants. Your 25th player could be whatever you want.

 

[Koya]

really think we should allow for partial seasons. we shouldn't be using stats from any non new York team.

Yeah, welcome to three hours ago.

 

[the moops]

really think we should allow for partial seasons. we shouldn't be using stats from any non new York team.

Yeah, welcome to three hours ago.

shut it