Trey McBride Touchdown (From a Fumble) (1 Viewer)

[Terpman22]

As luck would have it, the 2 leagues I have shares of McBride are the ONLY ones that did not credit him with the touchdown he got off an offensive fumble by James Conner yesterday. I brought this up to the commissioner in both leagues, although I feel its unlikely to change since we are in season.

But, my question is - if this is not something that is set up in your league right now, would you be against changing the rule "in season"??

Not a huge deal for me tbh, but I had to bring it up

Thanks!

 

[Dan Lambskin]

This came up a few years back, I forgot how I handled it, but we made sure to count Offensive Fumble Recovery TD as a scoring category. I want to say we credited it since the intent has always been the player that scores the TD should get the points

 

[Terpman22]

This came up a few years back, I forgot how I handled it, but we made sure to count Offensive Fumble Recovery TD as a scoring category. I want to say we credited it since the intent has always been the player that scores the TD should get the points

Yeah, to drive my point home i went thru all the scenarios where a TD can be scored and this is *the only* one where I can see (in these leagues) where a touchdown is not accounted for in fantasy football. Even brought up the fact a QB gets credit TWICE in the weird scenario he throws a touchdown to himself.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I saw 18 instead of 12 and wondered what was going on there…

 

[Down Under]

As luck would have it, the 2 leagues I have shares of McBride are the ONLY ones that did not credit him with the touchdown he got off an offensive fumble by James Conner yesterday. I brought this up to the commissioner in both leagues, although I feel its unlikely to change since we are in season.

But, my question is - if this is not something that is set up in your league right now, would you be against changing the rule "in season"??

Not a huge deal for me tbh, but I had to bring it up

Thanks!

Is one of these leagues ESPN? This was brought up in another thread yesterday (game day thread or maybe McBride's) - someone mentioned it should be adjusted as a stat correction today or tomorrow, but now that I check the settings in my league, there is no "Offensive Fumble Recovery TD" under misc. So maybe not. Hopefully, it won't make a difference in my matchup (still TBD).

 

[JaxJokers]

I received points for it in ESPN, but not MFL.

 

[Terpman22]

As luck would have it, the 2 leagues I have shares of McBride are the ONLY ones that did not credit him with the touchdown he got off an offensive fumble by James Conner yesterday. I brought this up to the commissioner in both leagues, although I feel its unlikely to change since we are in season.

But, my question is - if this is not something that is set up in your league right now, would you be against changing the rule "in season"??

Not a huge deal for me tbh, but I had to bring it up

Thanks!

Is one of these leagues ESPN? This was brought up in another thread yesterday (game day thread or maybe McBride's) - someone mentioned it should be adjusted as a stat correction today or tomorrow, but now that I check the settings in my league, there is no "Offensive Fumble Recovery TD" under misc. So maybe not. Hopefully, it won't make a difference in my matchup (still TBD).

Its funny, in 8 leagues both NFL and Yahoo APP counted it (although its not noted in his score) and the 2 leagues its actually not being counted are MFL leagues that have been around 10+ years. Sorta got a "its never been there before" response in one league where, I guess its not gonna get changed.

 

[Dark Matter]

Draft Kings credited the TD yesterday, CBS made the correction last night, NFL has yet to correct.

 

[Down Under]

It is counted as a TD in my Sleeper league, but we do have "Offensive Fumble Recovery TD" listed under the misc. section.

 

[Schmeabs]

In my CBS league it is not being credited to McBride

 

[Terpman22]

My logic "If the casual sites like Draftkings, Yahoo and NFL are crediting it, seems the more hyper focused sites like MFL should"

I highly doubt any commissioner literally was reviewing the scoring of their league when they set it up like

"Ok 4 points passing TD, check"
"1 point per reception, check"
"6 points for rushing and receiving TDS"

"Fumble recovery touchdown??? NO WAY F THIS ITS GOING TO RUIN THE LEAGUE!"

Seems its just a simple oversite thing that should be corrected in season, and yeah, I am biased b/c its affecting me directly but...lol. This seems silly to NOT change

 

[JaxJokers]

Not sure it can be changed in MFL. Other than crediting all player's with a "fumble recovery", is there a scoring category for this? If it is changed now, will it screw anything up in the league settings?

 

[Terpman22]

Not sure it can be changed in MFL. Other than crediting all player's with a "fumble recovery", is there a scoring category for this? If it is changed now, will it screw anything up in the league settings?

Its already in 4 of my MFL leagues. It just doesn't literally say reflect the touchdown when you click on the 18.7 points, it just says 6 catches 67 receiving yards. But obviously 18.7 points = the TD was included.

 

[lsutigers]

We didn't have it in MFL in 2012, 2013 or 2014 but added it in 2015. So thinking it happened in 2014 for sure because that'd be a really random scoring rule to change otherwise. . .

I typically don't like in season changes, but that's seemingly something that is in the purview of the commish and one of those common sense things like Dan L. said. Might would still throw it to a vote?

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

Came up years ago in our yahoo league. I'm not sure it was as obvious in the scoring settings then as it is now, but it's now an obvious category that's hard to miss.

Yes, it makes more sense to count it than not, but I personally don't think it should be changed mid-season if that's the way the league was set up. You have a whole league capable of reviewing the scoring settings and calling out such omissions to the commish before the start of the season. I suppose if there's universal agreement for the TD to count (or zero objections, including the affected party), then fine, make the change.

 

[Terpman22]

Came up years ago in our yahoo league. I'm not sure it was as obvious in the scoring settings then as it is now, but it's now an obvious category that's hard to miss.

Yes, it makes more sense to count it than not, but I personally don't think it should be changed mid-season if that's the way the league was set up. You have a whole league capable of reviewing the scoring settings and calling out such omissions to the commish before the start of the season. I suppose if there's universal agreement for the TD to count (or zero objections, including the affected party), then fine, make the change.

Thanks for the feedback!

Some responses go: "Not sure how Scott runs his leagues, but the ones I'm in, this is not a thing"

ME: Actually in both the leagues I'm in, the TD has been counted

Guy: Oh well. Can't change it midseason.

Its fine lol I'm just curious what, if anything others are doing with this.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

Came up years ago in our yahoo league. I'm not sure it was as obvious in the scoring settings then as it is now, but it's now an obvious category that's hard to miss.

Yes, it makes more sense to count it than not, but I personally don't think it should be changed mid-season if that's the way the league was set up. You have a whole league capable of reviewing the scoring settings and calling out such omissions to the commish before the start of the season. I suppose if there's universal agreement for the TD to count (or zero objections, including the affected party), then fine, make the change.

Thanks for the feedback!

Some responses go: "Not sure how Scott runs his leagues, but the ones I'm in, this is not a thing"

ME: Actually in both the leagues I'm in, the TD has been counted

Guy: Oh well. Can't change it midseason.

Its fine lol I'm just curious what, if anything others are doing with this.

Extremely frustrating situation for these not to count only in the two leagues where you actually have McBride. If the commish's comeback was "Can't change midseason", I think you probably took the high road not being the guy arguing against that rationale.

I think a fair response on your side is, please make sure this gets corrected for next season, or put to a league vote. I would guess that most people will want these to count moving forward, even if they are a little fluke-ish when they happen against you. Also, take this opportunity to review league scoring settings to make sure there's nothing else that was flubbed. Not noticing or understanding the setting, while failing to ask the league about how to handle it, is a little bit of a miss for this commish in my book. Kind of one of those situations where you find out how good / detail-oriented your commissioner is.

FWIW, it does look like it was counted in my MFL league.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

I'm almost positive these never counted with default settings at most major sites in the past. I was surprised to see it count in several leagues this season. I'm not sure why there was a wholesale change, but it happened.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

In CBS there is a very specific setup for this that says offensive fumble recovery TD. it use to count just as a generic offensive TD, but CBS made these changes to be more granular and I don't ever check for changes so it went unnoticed in my league until two years ago when this occurred. I don't remember what team it was.

When it occured, my league mates were opposed to changing the setup during the season, but i felt it is the intent that matters and if everyone in the league thought that should have counted for McBride, then it should be changed immediately. They all greed with the latter. Silly to argue otherwise if you assume a scoring works a certain way and the commish just failed to set it up that way, as was true in our case.

Another caveat to watch out for, if there is a possession change, as in if Conner lost it and defense got it, then lost it and McBride got it after that, then legitimately the scoring goes to D/ST, not offense. Something else I found in CBS scoring setup.

I have Conner on my team so this one was a little bitter. I should win this week, but if it comes down to losing by a few points I'll be very sad about this play.

 

[jm192]

I think they should count. Any TD your offensive guy scores should count IMO. It counts for their NFL team. Not counting for your fantasy teams feels like a silly technicality.

I don't think rules should change during the season unless there's 100% agreement.

 

[massraider]

If you DO have McBride, and the scoring wasn't set up to count that score, and you didn't say anything before yesterday, you won't make any headway in leagues I am in. Bring it up after the season, that's the standard response.

You gotta know your scoring system. IF you want safeties to count for more than 2 points for your defense, like it's Sportsline 1996 default ova here, you gotta speak up. Can't wait till it screws you.

 

[Gally]

Is one of these leagues ESPN? This was brought up in another thread yesterday (game day thread or maybe McBride's) - someone mentioned it should be adjusted as a stat correction today or tomorrow, but now that I check the settings in my league, there is no "Offensive Fumble Recovery TD" under misc. So maybe not. Hopefully, it won't make a difference in my matchup (still TBD).

I went into the league settings for scoring on ESPN yesterday and found the category of "Fumble Recoveries for TD (FTD)" in the miscellaneous section. Just click that box and it will include it from now on. It's straightforward as a setting.

 

[Dez]

A TD is a TD it should count and that stinks if you play in a league where it does not.

 

[pinequick]

Came up years ago in our yahoo league. I'm not sure it was as obvious in the scoring settings then as it is now, but it's now an obvious category that's hard to miss.

Yes, it makes more sense to count it than not, but I personally don't think it should be changed mid-season if that's the way the league was set up. You have a whole league capable of reviewing the scoring settings and calling out such omissions to the commish before the start of the season. I suppose if there's universal agreement for the TD to count (or zero objections, including the affected party), then fine, make the change.

Thanks for the feedback!

Some responses go: "Not sure how Scott runs his leagues, but the ones I'm in, this is not a thing"

ME: Actually in both the leagues I'm in, the TD has been counted

Guy: Oh well. Can't change it midseason.

Its fine lol I'm just curious what, if anything others are doing with this.

You're right and he's right--it should be changed, but you can't change scoring rules midseason. That's an oversight that should be fixed in the offseason.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

I've always played in Yahoo leagues where FRTDs count by default. But I just wanted to say that I have McBride in two leagues, both of which I got blown out in yesterday, and I faced him in a third league, where I lost by 1.02 pts. So I may be petitioning to have it not count

 

[Down Under]

Is one of these leagues ESPN? This was brought up in another thread yesterday (game day thread or maybe McBride's) - someone mentioned it should be adjusted as a stat correction today or tomorrow, but now that I check the settings in my league, there is no "Offensive Fumble Recovery TD" under misc. So maybe not. Hopefully, it won't make a difference in my matchup (still TBD).

I went into the league settings for scoring on ESPN yesterday and found the category of "Fumble Recoveries for TD (FTD)" in the miscellaneous section. Just click that box and it will include it from now on. It's straightforward as a setting.

I assume you are the commissioner with the ability to change that - I am not.

 

[Gally]

Is one of these leagues ESPN? This was brought up in another thread yesterday (game day thread or maybe McBride's) - someone mentioned it should be adjusted as a stat correction today or tomorrow, but now that I check the settings in my league, there is no "Offensive Fumble Recovery TD" under misc. So maybe not. Hopefully, it won't make a difference in my matchup (still TBD).

I went into the league settings for scoring on ESPN yesterday and found the category of "Fumble Recoveries for TD (FTD)" in the miscellaneous section. Just click that box and it will include it from now on. It's straightforward as a setting.

I assume you are the commissioner with the ability to change that - I am not.

My point was its a setting g in scoring on espn sites. It can be updated if your league wants to do it.....but it needs to be your commish that does it

 

[runner06]

Not sure it can be changed in MFL. Other than crediting all player's with a "fumble recovery", is there a scoring category for this? If it is changed now, will it screw anything up in the league settings?

It's under "Number of Offensive Fumble Recovery TDs".

We ran into a few years ago when I think Tyreek Hill returned a fumble for a touchdown and it didn't count towards the team score. We switched it after the season.