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Trip's Top 10 Undervalued - July Edition (2 Viewers)
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matttyl
Footballguy
Agreed totally. I'm just pointing out that the 5 rookie QBs of note last year went to a variety of different offenses. Overall, amazingly, the one in Cleveland likely had the best overall offense to put any of them on - so the one that went there had the best statistical season (also, he's probably the most talented of the bunch as well).
Depending on the scoring system, he could be great value. If you're in a passing td worth 4 and all rushing tds worth 6 league go for it, unfortunately I'm in an all tds worth 6 league.
A Josh Alllen (QB 20) and Brady (QB 21) via fantasy pros rankings are a nice, cheap combination of safety and upside.
For a real cheap option- Andy Dalton. Green back, Boyd pretty good, Eifert back for RZ, and Taylor as HC make for an interesting late round dart throw.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
I think a whole new offense is being installed. He came in mid-season into an offense designed for a pocket passer. They adjusted it and added some wrinkles, but this year I suspect that an entire new section of the playbook will be added to the scheme, based upon the offensive strengths. They also probably had to keep it pretty basic for Lamar since he was a 21 year old rookie. Now with 8 starts and an offseason, I dont think that last year's film wil be all that beneficial. Maybe by mid season though if Jackson has not established his arm as a weapon.
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
While I agree having a second season with the team should lead to greater familiarity with team mates and coaches should lead to some improvement, the same thing could be said for a lot of QB who had new coaches last season.
As far as the offense being new, I am sure there will be new wrinkles and I do think they have Jackson throw more and run a bit less, I do not think the offense is going to really be new though.
Marty Morhenweg has been replaced by Greg Roman as the offensive coordinator. Roman is going into his 3rd season with the Ravens now and certainly had a hand in developing the offense and game plan to suit Lamar Jackson once they pulled the plug on Falcco, however they were very prepared to do this, in fact they had been talking about it and planning for a scenario where if they did draft Jackson, what they would do with him.
So I think they have a long term plan for Jackson and we have seen the early iterations of it.
Really it is the skill set of the personnel that is driving the scheme more than the other way around. A lot of parts of the offense are and were the same for Jackson as they are for Flacco. The difference being that Jackson can run the ball, and how!
Jackson was in a Erhardt Perkins system in college. Martys roots are in the WCO. So that was a transition for Jackson. He shouldn't be having to learn a whole new offense this season though despite the change in offensive coordinator.
boilerdave
Footballguy
Anderson should be on everyone’s Undervalued List. I’d be happy to have him as a WR2 and elated if he’s my WR3.TheDirtyWord said:
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Just curious if you were intending to participate in Anarchy League 1 again this season or not. Couldn't send you a message.
cheese
Footballguy
RE: Winston.... Last season at this time, it sure seemed like everyone was saying the same thing at QB. Mahomes looked like a freak and the Chiefs offense was going to be amazing. Despite nearly everyone hyping Mahomes as THE mid/late QB to take, he barely rose up in drafts. Probably my biggest surprise after each draft the last week or 2 before last season was how easy it still was to get Mahomes when everyone on twitter, fbg, podcasts, etc was pushing him.
This year, everyone seems to be on the same page about Winston taking a huge leap. Yet, I haven't seen almost any rise up ADP. Maybe it's just early, or maybe I'm going to be drafting Winston in round 10 in early September.
This year, everyone seems to be on the same page about Winston taking a huge leap. Yet, I haven't seen almost any rise up ADP. Maybe it's just early, or maybe I'm going to be drafting Winston in round 10 in early September.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
I don't like to bump QBs I'm not already high on after a perceived coaching/scheme improvement. Yeah, Arians could give a huge bump. And he's a great coach. But I think one of the areas where even great coaches (hell maybe especially great coaches) have a blind spot is their belief in their own ability to get the most out of mediocre QBs. I'd need to already like Winston in order to bet my season that Arians will fix him.
TripItUp
Footballguy
