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Parcells press conference (something about TO missing all of preseason with the hammy).
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Footballguy
Really? I wonder what this does to his draft value assuming it's precautionary.
Jackal King
Footballguy
Cue the helicopter. TO is going to be shooting baskets in his driveway later today. Film at 11:00.
Football Jones
Footballguy
That was strange. I guess there's a rift developing between Parcells & TO.
Anyway, it was announced on the NFL Channel that TO could miss all of training camp. However, after the press conference, they said that may not be true. Weird.
Anyway, it was announced on the NFL Channel that TO could miss all of training camp. However, after the press conference, they said that may not be true. Weird.
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skillz
Footballguy
I didn't see the press conference. I am curious to why you believe there is a rift between TO and Parcells based on what went on at the press conference. It just appears that the Cowboys are keeping him out for the preseason due to an injury--not due to any friction between Parcells and TO. Why do you think otherwise?
Football Jones
Footballguy
I must admit I didn't get to listen real closely to the press conference. I'm basically going by what the network guys said after the press conference (insinuating Parcells doesn't like this type of thing, etc.). Also, the whole dynamics of the press conference kinda made me think there was something there. Definitely take what I say with a grain of salt, though (but like I mentioned, the network guys seemed to think there was a rift between Parcells & TO, as well).
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Aaronstory
Footballguy
Over/under on how long it is until Parcells calls Owens "she"?
(Or until he says something like "The girls are doing well..." when asked about his starting WRs...)
(Or until he says something like "The girls are doing well..." when asked about his starting WRs...)
BlueOnion
Footballguy
Not 100%, did not see the press conference nor stay at a Holiday Inn Express. But I believe T.O. is keeping himself out of training camp (not the Cowboys) and this action by T.O. may be causing a rift between Parcells and T.O.Can anybody confirm or dispute what I am perceiving?
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I'm feeling the same way. I seriously doubt that Parcells was pleased when Owens said that he didn't think that he could play in this weekend's game. I think that at the end of the season, either Owens will be gone or Parcells will quit.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
I avoid this guy in all my leagues, but then SSmith gets hurt hours before I pick and in a weak moment I take TO.
skillz
Footballguy
I feel your pain. Smith got hurt the day before I had to declare keepers in my keeper league. Was going to keep him over TO and then the injury caused me to reconsider. Ironically, TO now has a hamstring injury as well, and to compound things he is apparently starting to piss of Parcells just 10 days into training camp.I avoid this guy in all my leagues, but then SSmith gets hurt hours before I pick and in a weak moment I take TO.
redman
Footballguy
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coolnerd
Footballguy
I listened to the press conference and confirm this, but of course, I am not a link.
Per Rotoworld:
Terrell Owens-WR-Cowboys Aug. 8 - 3:14 pm et
The Cowboys deny an ESPNews report that Terrell Owens will miss the entire preseason with his hamstring.
ESPN seems to have retracted the story, failing to post it online. An MRI on Owens' hamstring revealed no major damage last Saturday. It's possible that the Cowboys will indeed hold Owens out of preseason work as a precaution, but the timing of the unsourced report was odd. It's disconcerting that Owens hasn't practiced much with his new squad and we'll slightly adjust his rankings down if he continues to miss time.
Terrell Owens-WR-Cowboys Aug. 8 - 3:14 pm et
The Cowboys deny an ESPNews report that Terrell Owens will miss the entire preseason with his hamstring.
ESPN seems to have retracted the story, failing to post it online. An MRI on Owens' hamstring revealed no major damage last Saturday. It's possible that the Cowboys will indeed hold Owens out of preseason work as a precaution, but the timing of the unsourced report was odd. It's disconcerting that Owens hasn't practiced much with his new squad and we'll slightly adjust his rankings down if he continues to miss time.
redman
Footballguy
OK, that's good enough for me. It had been my impression that the ESPN report was in response to the presser, and did not precede it.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
They've been talking about this all day locally (radio personalities). As I noted in the other thread. T.O flew in his own doctors today. They may be behind this, but T.O said today (locally) that he'll be ready by Monday, that it was only for precaustionary reasons that he'll sit out this game.Both ESPN (locally) and the Ticket have been saying the same thing. If ESPN is reporting that it'll be the entire pre-season it's obvious T.O just doesn't want to play in the pre-season. Personally I don't think anything is wrong with him, and IMO he's a snake.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
The Cowboys deny an ESPNews report that Terrell Owens will miss the entire preseason with his hamstring.
ESPN seems to have retracted the story, failing to post it online. An MRI on Owens' hamstring revealed no major damage last Saturday. It's possible that the Cowboys will indeed hold Owens out of preseason work as a precaution, but the timing of the unsourced report was odd. It's disconcerting that Owens hasn't practiced much with his new squad and we'll slightly adjust his rankings down if he continues to miss time.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines.aspx?sport=NFL
ESPN seems to have retracted the story, failing to post it online. An MRI on Owens' hamstring revealed no major damage last Saturday. It's possible that the Cowboys will indeed hold Owens out of preseason work as a precaution, but the timing of the unsourced report was odd. It's disconcerting that Owens hasn't practiced much with his new squad and we'll slightly adjust his rankings down if he continues to miss time.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines.aspx?sport=NFL
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Looks like someone jumped the gun. 
Premium Hands
Footballguy
A reporter was asking Parcells if it would be the Cowboys' trainers or TO's own trainers who declare TO fit to return to practice. Parcells kinda skirted the issue...seemed kind of annoyed. As if maybe the team doesn't really have a handle on the situation, and TO would be dictating when he comes back. So not sure if there's a real rift or just Tuna getting flustered with all the TO questioning. But as an Eagles fan....BlueOnion said:
redman
Footballguy
While he's of course a veteran, this is also his first year in a non-West Coast Offense. He could use all the time he can get to adjust I would think. There's no way to spin this that's not bad news for the Cowboys (and TO owners). The question is, how bad is it?
Deuce'sWild
Footballguy
I've been targetting Bledsoe in the 7th or 8th round. I may have to refocus that strategy and drop both he and TO down. I thought he could get his crap together for at least one year before he starting acting like a complete buttmonkey again.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Hello redman,I've been following the camp very closely, here's my observation of the situation.
#1. Before the "so call" injury took place. Elderado was having a very good camp. He caught the majority of the passes that came his way.
#2. This "so call" injury just came from no where. It wasn't during a playing or while he was running.........it just showed up.
#3. If I had Elderado on my roster, I wouldn't worry about the "so call" injury..........it'The Allen Iverson Effect (Practice.........it's practice).
#4. How every, I believe, once again it's just a ploy to get out of playing and practice. Nothing more, nothing less. AS one fan you don't like the idea of Elderado being a Cowboy, it pains me to say that no matter what he'll be ready for the season.
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The Finist
Footballguy
A reporter was asking Parcells if it would be the Cowboys' trainers or TO's own trainers who declare TO fit to return to practice. Parcells kinda skirted the issue...seemed kind of annoyed. As if maybe the team doesn't really have a handle on the situation, and TO would be dictating when he comes back. So not sure if there's a real rift or just Tuna getting flustered with all the TO questioning. But as an Eagles fan....BlueOnion said:
@ Eagles fans.
massraider
Footballguy
I think I agree with this. The hamstring injury is the tried and true veteran skip-practice card. I am also not aware of any chronic hamstring problems in the past (but I could be wrong).I think Parcells would like to drop this guy in the Gulf of Mexico, but his desire to win isn't going to allow him to crack the whip on TO.
fatness
Footballguy
I know you follow the Cowboys pretty closely, so I have to ask: If that's the case, it establishes that Owens is calling the shots here and Parcells is not, doesn't it? How do you think this will come across with the other players? And with Parcells?
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Honesty, I think a storm is coming, there's a cloud forming and it's not looking pretting. Red flag #1. Drew throws two passes to T.O and he gets pissed to the max, to the point where he unsnaps his face mask and totally ignors Drew as Drew approaches him. (Both passes were under thrown).Red flag #2. The "so called" injuryRed flag #3. Elderado brought in his own doctors! Are you kidding me! What the #%*X!Red flag #4. Every single press conference I've heard, so far I've heard all except one. When asked a question about Elderado, Bill says something like: "I don't know, I haven't talked to Terell" (sp?). {{thinking out loud}}What? You can't be serious!{{thinking out loud}}Red flag #5. Bill is clearly get pissed at this entire situation, this can't be good.Some of the players have gravitated to Elderado, especially some of the WRs. All the players have been playing the "Pro" roll, i.e. "We know T.O. will be ready, He's a hard worker," etc.......Again, the injury doesn't concern me, if I was a T.O owner, but if and when things calm down, I'd trade him to the highest bidder because this is not looking well and locally it's being talked about.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Won't be 33 until mid-December (not that that really makes him all that much younger).
sholditch
Footballguy
I also have the feeling *just a feeling* that there is a rift developing. When TO was interviewed by Adam Shein he asked him about Parcells not being at the signing press conference, and though TO clearly skirted the issue saying it didn't affect his thinking, it was clear that his feelings were hurt. Personally, TO's injury-prone ego is the biggest concern, not his hammy. When TO feels that he is being "dissed" or whatever, that's when his true childishness begins, and there's really no limit to it, as we all saw last year. He behaved like an absolute child, what's worse he has an agent that not only condones but encourages this behavior. Any chance of TO learning from his mistakes was completely erased by the huge contract Jones handed him. I really don't think the behavior clauses will have any effect cause TO, while emotionally four years old, is extremely smart.
What's obvious is that TO is a player that needs to be coddled, treated with kid-gloves when it comes to just about anything, including locker-room, on-field, and off-field (media) behavior. Now, knowing how he is, and knowing who he has as head coach and QB (Bledsoe takes crap from no one), how can anyone look at this situation and say it won't blow up in their faces?
What's obvious is that TO is a player that needs to be coddled, treated with kid-gloves when it comes to just about anything, including locker-room, on-field, and off-field (media) behavior. Now, knowing how he is, and knowing who he has as head coach and QB (Bledsoe takes crap from no one), how can anyone look at this situation and say it won't blow up in their faces?
Red flag #5. Bill is clearly get pissed at this entire situation, this can't be good.
BigTex, you are rock solild with Poke news. I do not disagree with anything you are saying but my feelings on Red Flag 5...
The local media, which would be those major markets within the Great State of Texas, are really forcing the issue with Parcells in all of his pressers. There have been some dumb...D-U-M-B...questions the last few days. Most...all...are directed at or around Owens. Parcells is old school and he is not going to feed the media beast. Thus, the media is forcing the issue just a tad and Parcells is being difficult to prove a point. That is why the guy is getting fiesty and his elastic Dickie's jumpers are in a bunch.
There is a pissing match going on but I am not sure which one might be bigger...Parcells v. Owens or Parcells v. Media on the matter of T. Owens. Of course, Parcells could come hard with a straight answer and clear this up but that would mean he would be caving to the reporters and that is not going to happen.
No doubt it looks like an Aggie has been in the woodshed, which is a nice way of saying things are pretty well screwed up, and I am curious to see what happens in the next few weeks.
BigTex, you are rock solild with Poke news. I do not disagree with anything you are saying but my feelings on Red Flag 5...
The local media, which would be those major markets within the Great State of Texas, are really forcing the issue with Parcells in all of his pressers. There have been some dumb...D-U-M-B...questions the last few days. Most...all...are directed at or around Owens. Parcells is old school and he is not going to feed the media beast. Thus, the media is forcing the issue just a tad and Parcells is being difficult to prove a point. That is why the guy is getting fiesty and his elastic Dickie's jumpers are in a bunch.
There is a pissing match going on but I am not sure which one might be bigger...Parcells v. Owens or Parcells v. Media on the matter of T. Owens. Of course, Parcells could come hard with a straight answer and clear this up but that would mean he would be caving to the reporters and that is not going to happen.
No doubt it looks like an Aggie has been in the woodshed, which is a nice way of saying things are pretty well screwed up, and I am curious to see what happens in the next few weeks.
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dickey moe
Fingerpicker
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Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
I saw a brief clip of the press conference on ESPN. In it, Parcells is basically chastising the media for trying to find a rift where there is none.
IGKYA!!!
Footballguy
cobalt_27
Footballguy
IGKYA!!!
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SteelerMurf
Footballguy
From 1999 to 2005, TO has only had ONE 16 game season. He is as injury prone as you can get.And he is older than Tiki Barber, you know the guy eveyone likes to bash for being on the wrong side of 30. Well TO is on the wrong side of Tiki
LaneOfSteel™
Footballguy
You cant compare a RB's age to a WR's age. Wr's can last well into their mid 30's. Rb's are pretty much shot at 31-32.
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Deuce'sWild
Footballguy
Didn't he break his ankle prior to playing in the Super Bowl the year before??
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
FWIW, last year he was on the injury report 5 weeks. 4 as probable and he played each week. 1 as Questionable and he didn't play (ankle, week 9).
SteelerMurf
Footballguy
But when you are a WR that has only had 1 complete season in 7 years....age should scare you.You cant compare a RB's age to a WR's age. Wr's can last well into their mid 30's. Rb's are pretty much shot at 31-32.
