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Two women charged with hate crimes after stealing child’s Make America Great Again hat (1 Viewer)

Wow I can’t believe there isn’t a thread on this yet. 7 years old. I hope they get the maximum sentence. 
 
I don't know Delaware law, but if this occurred in Arizona and the same charges were made (especially the robbery with a child victim) the "maximum sentence" could mean >decade in prison. Would you really hope for something like that?

 
sentence #1.  true, he is indicted.  pretty easy though to indict anyone in the political spectrum.  if found guilty report back.

sentence #2.  Anonymous sources.  You are better than that.  so how about I heard from someone, can't say who, that said you are racist?

not cool is it?

sentence #3. not worth discussing IMO.
Well, Trump did say "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters" so that makes sense...

 
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These are all preposterous overcharges and the district attorney who filed them should be fired.
I just watched the video. I'll save my impressions for the following paragraphs, but from a brief legal analysis I'd have to agree with your post. Robbery? No. Maybe theft under the theory of intended to temporarily deprive. Low level assault would fit for the punch thrown. In my pretty harsh state of AZ these would still only be misdemeanors. Frankly I think those would be warranted and it would be reasonable for the state to seek convictions for them. But felonies and hate crimes? Seems overly harsh. 

Now, from a moral and sentimental standpoint as well as a "how's our country doing?" standpoint that video just ruined my day. The 21 year old girls are grossly out of line and, again, I think deserve to be charged with misdemeanors. They basically made the kid cry and I was very angered in watching them not care or realize that in the moment. But, in the moment, the kid's mom was ####### awful too with filming it and trying to make a point and then the long-term realization that this is this kid's role model and key parental figure. This all culminates with the realization that these three jokers' votes count the same as Robert Nozick's or John Rawls' and it makes me harken back to Aristotle's criticism of democracy. 

 
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I don't know Delaware law, but if this occurred in Arizona and the same charges were made (especially the robbery with a child victim) the "maximum sentence" could mean >decade in prison. Would you really hope for something like that?
Hey, if you have a better suggestion for how to end our nationwide scourge of hat-swiping, we're all ears.  

 
Leftist bullying has gone rampant in this country
there's plenty of bullying on both sides, it's just been coming from the left most recently and most loudly over the last year or two so that sticks in everyone's mind.

feels like these chicks deserve some kind of official punishment, but I think hate crimes are dumb in general and beyond ridiculous for something like this, though. 

 
Seems excessive accusation. They weren’t setting fires, dropping statues or looting stores.

 
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I just love posts like this from someone that seems to despise "leftists" and posts a lot about them.  

We will agree that there has been a growing anger and hatred of others over the last few years.  Where we part ways is the belief you seem to have about how widespread this is though.  
agree with you it's not as widespread as it seems to be on the interwebs.

but I think a whole lot of people these days have a hard time distinguishing internet and social media drama/outrage/hyperbole from real life, and for a growing number of them that's beginning to have negative effects on their actual in-person behavior as well.

I said this in another thread a while back, but ten years ago we all knew the internet was a fool's gold minefield - nobody took anything seriously because of how easy it was to misrepresent the truth, fake a photo, take stuff out of context or just outright lie constantly. But somewhere along the line the media (which are now mostly a bunch of minimum wage interns and jobbers desperately hustling for maximum clicks rather than the actual news reporters of the 20th century) started treating Twitter and Facebook like legit sources for stories, and now the entire world is acting like social media is some kind of national barometer of truth rather than mostly the emotional rantings of autistic shut-ins.

hopefully one day we'll look back on this era and laugh about how stupid we were, but I think it's just as likely we all end up unwitting participants in a nuclear civil war between QAnon morons and woke morons who got treated as normal upstanding citizens with valid thoughts and views until way too late.

 
These are all preposterous overcharges and the district attorney who filed them should be fired.
Have to consider its an act against a child.  You just can't do that. People, rightfully so, tend to go the extra mile for their kids and the possible negative impacts it could have on them.

Honestly, in some parts of the country, i think those two women could have approached somebody's child and ended up dead. It is as much an attempt to send a message (right or wrong) as it is to respond to this particular issue.  

 
In the attached article

"On one hand they don’t want to interfere in democratic electoral processes. On the other hand, you are talking about a president who is unlike anything they have ever experienced," Goldberg continued. “I think there is also fear. We see this across the board in Donald Trump’s Washington: There is a fear on a kind of a superficial level of a Twitter mob. There is also real fear of personal safety, fear for your family, fear for what you put everybody around you through if you started talking about this sort of thing.”
The twitter thing was one small part of the overall reasoing.  So yes, it seems you are mistaken.

 
In the attached article

The twitter thing was one small part of the overall reasoing.  So yes, it seems you are mistaken.
the only fear the 4 respected(how would you know?) anonymous "sources" had was that they made it all up.   but hey, you want to believe it, believe away!  looks like rock hard evidence for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
the only fear the 4 respected(how would you know?) anonymous "sources" had was that they made it all up.   but hey, you want to believe it, believe away!  looks like rock hard evidence for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!
That seems to be biased speculation that isn't actually based on anything factual...odd to move to this when the they were just afraid of twitter was shown to be incorrect.

 
Have to consider its an act against a child.  You just can't do that. People, rightfully so, tend to go the extra mile for their kids and the possible negative impacts it could have on them.

Honestly, in some parts of the country, i think those two women could have approached somebody's child and ended up dead. It is as much an attempt to send a message (right or wrong) as it is to respond to this particular issue.  
Lol.  Yeah, the Mom was so concerned about her child she encouraged him to go after them and get the hat back.  This is exactly what she was hoping would happen, or worse.  She used her child to try to provoke a reaction, even claiming they had attacked him when they did nothing of the sort.  The idiot mother should face charges just like the other two idiots.  

 
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Lol.  Yeah, the Mom was so concerned about her child she encouraged him to go after them and get the hat back.  This is exactly what she was hoping would happen, or worse.  She used her child to try to provoke a reaction, even claiming they had attacked him when they did nothing of the sort.  The idiot mother should face charges just like the other two idiots.  
ha, dude, come on...politics aside, I agree it was stupid for her to tell her kid to go get his hat back, but I have to cut her a little slack for being in a stressful situation and maybe not thinking too clearly. But come on, the woman and her son arent the bad guys here - I know you're not seriously suggesting victims of theft ought to be treated just like the thieves because they try to retrieve their property.

 
ha, dude, come on...politics aside, I agree it was stupid for her to tell her kid to go get his hat back, but I have to cut her a little slack for being in a stressful situation and maybe not thinking too clearly. But come on, the woman and her son arent the bad guys here - I know you're not seriously suggesting victims of theft ought to be treated just like the thieves because they try to retrieve their property.
I have no problem with victims of theft trying to get their property back, I do have a problem with a mother egging her 7 year old son on in a volatile and potentially dangerous situation just to try and get some footage that would make the other side look bad.  Then she claimed they "attacked" him, which was patently untrue and could have quickly turned things very violent.  She was endangering her child.   

 
I have no problem with victims of theft trying to get their property back, I do have a problem with a mother egging her 7 year old son on in a volatile and potentially dangerous situation just to try and get some footage that would make the other side look bad.  Then she claimed they "attacked" him, which was patently untrue and could have quickly turned things very violent.  She was endangering her child.   
I hear ya man, it was a dumb thing for her to do, I'm just willing to give her the benefit of the doubt for not handling the situation well rather than willfully endangering her son. Could be she was thinking the girl wouldn't act like such a shrew directly to her kid and would actually give the hat back. 

 

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