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Wandy suggests 189 was fixed. Is there no one around this guy than can take away his phone and access to twitter?

http://www.mmamania.com/2015/7/13/8948917/ufc-wanderlei-silva-reebok-uniforms-power-rangers-ufc-189-fixed-fight-conor-mcgregor-mma
what a tool....dont take away from what those guys accomplished ...that was a great great card
I don't agree with the assessment that the fight was fixed.

However, there is no denying the fact that there was a ton of reasons...and I would venture to say well over 100 million dollars on the line....that was begging for a McGregor win. One cannot sit and say that there was no vested interest in the outcome that was realized being the preferred outcome.

Does anyone ever listen to the Eugene Robinson podcast? He makes the the case for the fix here:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/7/13/8949447/knuckle-up-357-ufc-189-a-query-how-does-it-feel-to-be-a-sucker
just stop...please...it does nothing good for the sport spreading stupid opinions based on something not going the way someone wanted it to go...therefor the fix was in...its dumb...its boring and it needs to go away ...this isnt the 1950`s when the mob controlled boxing ...with all the eyes and ears (cameras ) watching every move from every angle in super slow motion , its impossible to pull that crap off ...so please ...stop

 
McGregor/Faber on TUF makes no sense from a fight-building standpoint, and it still won't be enough to get me to watch, but as long as it doesn't interfere with the timetable for Aldo/McGregor, have at it.
May be wrong but I thought I heard Dana say McGregor/Faber isn't scheduled to happen because of this show.
Faber and Conor are hosting TUF but will not be fighting each other.
Right, that's what I mean. It makes no sense in that they waste time they could be using to build up an actual fight for Conor, whether against the opposing TUF coach or off the show. Reeks of desperation to try to salvage the moribund and stale TUF, but like I said, just don't get in the way of Aldo/McGregor and I won't mind too much.

 
Wandy suggests 189 was fixed. Is there no one around this guy than can take away his phone and access to twitter?

http://www.mmamania.com/2015/7/13/8948917/ufc-wanderlei-silva-reebok-uniforms-power-rangers-ufc-189-fixed-fight-conor-mcgregor-mma
what a tool....dont take away from what those guys accomplished ...that was a great great card
I don't agree with the assessment that the fight was fixed.

However, there is no denying the fact that there was a ton of reasons...and I would venture to say well over 100 million dollars on the line....that was begging for a McGregor win. One cannot sit and say that there was no vested interest in the outcome that was realized being the preferred outcome.

Does anyone ever listen to the Eugene Robinson podcast? He makes the the case for the fix here:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/7/13/8949447/knuckle-up-357-ufc-189-a-query-how-does-it-feel-to-be-a-sucker
just stop...please...it does nothing good for the sport spreading stupid opinions based on something not going the way someone wanted it to go...therefor the fix was in...its dumb...its boring and it needs to go away ...this isnt the 1950`s when the mob controlled boxing ...with all the eyes and ears (cameras ) watching every move from every angle in super slow motion , its impossible to pull that crap off ...so please ...stop
Are you saying that sporting events haven't been corrupted since the 1960s or since slow motion replay was invented?

Like I said, I don't think it happened...but I also don't agree with your premise that it is ludicrous to think that it could ever occur or that the temptation is so strong that it would never be considered or acted upon.

Let's run by some scenarios.

Let's assume for a second that Mendes refused to fight on two weeks/short notice.

What would the UFC have done? Would they have put in Frankie Edgar you think, someone else or scrapped the fight. A fight that had already had untold millions spent on it and was going to showcase their new uniforms, logo change, presentation, etc.

If they scrapped the fight or took McGregor off of it, how much money do you think they would have lost on it?

Let's assume McGregor lost the fight to Mendes. How would you quantify the financial impact of that loss on the organization?

The fact of the matter is that the UFC went on a major heater and could not lose this weekend. Everything bounced in its favor. I am not saying anything unethical happened, but to suggest that there is no chance that something could ever happen or could have happen is naive in my opinion.

I personally think the risks are too great for the UFC to engage in that sort of stuff. But, I don't run the company or know the books. Many have speculated that they have been taking a hit financially over the last 18 months or so due to a decline in PPVs from the pullouts, etc. But, then I also think the risks are too high to get hopped up on something (allegedly) and run my car into a pregnant woman and flee the scene when I am the light heavyweight champion of the world, too.

And I would not have figured that 50 cent was on the brink of bankruptcy, either.

My point. Who the #### knows what is going on behind the scenes when this sort of money is at stake.

 
Wandy suggests 189 was fixed. Is there no one around this guy than can take away his phone and access to twitter?

http://www.mmamania.com/2015/7/13/8948917/ufc-wanderlei-silva-reebok-uniforms-power-rangers-ufc-189-fixed-fight-conor-mcgregor-mma
what a tool....dont take away from what those guys accomplished ...that was a great great card
I don't agree with the assessment that the fight was fixed.

However, there is no denying the fact that there was a ton of reasons...and I would venture to say well over 100 million dollars on the line....that was begging for a McGregor win. One cannot sit and say that there was no vested interest in the outcome that was realized being the preferred outcome.

Does anyone ever listen to the Eugene Robinson podcast? He makes the the case for the fix here:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/7/13/8949447/knuckle-up-357-ufc-189-a-query-how-does-it-feel-to-be-a-sucker
LOL at the old back guy that loves death metal

ETA: would have a whole lot more credibility if he had P-Funk playing in the car.

Guy's a fugazi

 
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"My good friend Misty (her real name) who's a porn star, was doing a recent shoot where a Domino's pizza had a whole in the middle. Our delivery guy had a 10" pizza plucker and ### #### was he hunky.

I asked him him about the tip and he said, "Is that all you want?"

Things got crazy and there was pepperoni & mutz flying all over the place.

Next thing I know, he was telling me UFC189 was all staged.

:shock:

 
Wandy suggests 189 was fixed. Is there no one around this guy than can take away his phone and access to twitter?

http://www.mmamania.com/2015/7/13/8948917/ufc-wanderlei-silva-reebok-uniforms-power-rangers-ufc-189-fixed-fight-conor-mcgregor-mma
what a tool....dont take away from what those guys accomplished ...that was a great great card
I don't agree with the assessment that the fight was fixed.

However, there is no denying the fact that there was a ton of reasons...and I would venture to say well over 100 million dollars on the line....that was begging for a McGregor win. One cannot sit and say that there was no vested interest in the outcome that was realized being the preferred outcome.

Does anyone ever listen to the Eugene Robinson podcast? He makes the the case for the fix here:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/7/13/8949447/knuckle-up-357-ufc-189-a-query-how-does-it-feel-to-be-a-sucker
LOL at the old back guy that loves death metal

ETA: would have a whole lot more credibility if he had P-Funk playing in the car.

Guy's a fugazi
You are judging a book by its cover. He has a pretty interesting resume/bio.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxbow_(band)

 
Wandy suggests 189 was fixed. Is there no one around this guy than can take away his phone and access to twitter?

http://www.mmamania.com/2015/7/13/8948917/ufc-wanderlei-silva-reebok-uniforms-power-rangers-ufc-189-fixed-fight-conor-mcgregor-mma
what a tool....dont take away from what those guys accomplished ...that was a great great card
I don't agree with the assessment that the fight was fixed.

However, there is no denying the fact that there was a ton of reasons...and I would venture to say well over 100 million dollars on the line....that was begging for a McGregor win. One cannot sit and say that there was no vested interest in the outcome that was realized being the preferred outcome.

Does anyone ever listen to the Eugene Robinson podcast? He makes the the case for the fix here:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/7/13/8949447/knuckle-up-357-ufc-189-a-query-how-does-it-feel-to-be-a-sucker
LOL at the old back guy that loves death metal

ETA: would have a whole lot more credibility if he had P-Funk playing in the car.

Guy's a fugazi
You are judging a book by its cover. He has a pretty interesting resume/bio.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxbow_(band)
Maybe

But maybe the whole the whole time I was Lookin at a Fugazi

 
AhrnCityPahnder said:
scoobus said:
Still can't believe how embarrassingly Wandy went out.
It's best for everyone if we just agree that Wandy fell into a sinkhole sometime in 2011 and the guy in the news recently really isn't him.
You are/were a big Wandy fan if I remember correctly, right? I agree. Let's just let him fade away and remember the good times.
 
''As we all rejoiced and said to our companions “What a fight!”, Robbie Lawler went berserk, running around the cage in celebration. The gash in his lip seemed to open as wide as his mouth each time he roared. On one of the most memorable fight cards of the year, this fight had taken the cake. It was the kind of fight you're lucky to see once every three or four years and even as we joked about it, no-one expected that the main event to follow could live up to this.

And then, amid all of that, there was the reminder of guilt. It went largely missed due to the camera angle, and the tendency to focus on the winner. The same is true when you are live in the arena, the victor grows to become a titan, and the defeated fighter suddenly shrinks down and disappears. But directly behind the champion, as he ran around the ring in jubilation, was MacDonald, collapsing again as he sat up in front of the doctor.

The great tragedy of this story is not that MacDonald performed out of his skin and was unable to take the title, or that imbeciles on the internet are accusing him of quitting because he didn't fall to the floor unconscious in the manner they were most familiar with, or even that MacDonald has likely done himself some significant long term damage. The real tragedy, and the thing which every fight fan has to try to come to grips with each time he watches a terrific war with a brutal and uncomfortable ending, is that this is exactly the kind of fight we all wish we could watch every weekend.''

 
So i remember a few years ago people were talking about who could take over for Dana White when he wants to retire. This was the same time as Chael doing well, and there was a little mention he could do it.

I wonder, as long as he doesn't do anything stupid or get popped for pills a few times, if Mcgreggor can be the guy to eventually take over for Dana. Would be weird for a non-American, but he certainly seems like he could maybe do it. Would be a great guy to run the UFC in Europe for a bit as a transition

 
So i remember a few years ago people were talking about who could take over for Dana White when he wants to retire. This was the same time as Chael doing well, and there was a little mention he could do it.

I wonder, as long as he doesn't do anything stupid or get popped for pills a few times, if Mcgreggor can be the guy to eventually take over for Dana. Would be weird for a non-American, but he certainly seems like he could maybe do it. Would be a great guy to run the UFC in Europe for a bit as a transition
Not a chance in hell
 
yeah, i really need to get him on my regular rounds of MMA sites. does a great job being objective and really hitting key points. i loved his article about McGreggor, probably because i have been saying the same thing but he says it so much better:

http://fightland.vice.com/blog/ufc-189-how-mcgregor-stole-mendes-wind

if you don't want to read, he basically explains how those body shots by Conner were the main variable taking Chad down

 
DANG IT! forgot. a card on now on fox sports 1 for those people losing their memory like my old behind.
you haven't too much so far bud
No doubt. Horrible so far.
if this keeps up it will force the UFC to change their bonus structure. i haven't watched every fight, but i am pretty sure there were 3 fight of the nights on Saturday and exactly 0 tonight
They should basically give bonuses to every fighter who gets a submission or KO/TKO. In fact, I would almost go so far as to say they should give bonuses to the winning and losing fighter in any fight where there is a finish of some sort.

I am sure that it could be gamed a bit..so there would need to be some safeguards put in place.

At the end of the day, paying a two guys 10K a piece to fight isn't really that much of an incentive. You are better off trying to win the fight without risking your health/getting knocked out. Scratch out some wins and build a record and move up like that.

Unless you can turn yourself into Conor McGregor...

 
i get this was in the West Coast, but considering it is almost 1 AM here, who the hell thought this was a good time to have these fights? why not start 2 hours earlier?

 
Hot damn. Ferguson/Thomson by itself was worth staying up to watch this. Hell of a fight between one of the toughest grizzly veterans around and someone who looks like a future title challenger.

Mir/Duffee, on the other hand, might last maybe 2 minutes - I hope, at least.

 
Hot damn. Ferguson/Thomson by itself was worth staying up to watch this. Hell of a fight between one of the toughest grizzly veterans around and someone who looks like a future title challenger.

Mir/Duffee, on the other hand, might last maybe 2 minutes - I hope, at least.
The veteran showed tremendous heart. I was half hoping he would just "quit" in the 2nd and 3rd rounds just because I was afraid he was going to get maimed by an elbow.

Maybe I am in the minority. I like wars...but I see no need for a man who has been badly hurt and getting worked with next to no shot to win the fight to fight until he gets seriously injured. I personally don't need to see a guy prove how tough he is to me. I get that fights can change on a dime in this sport and I am not sure where one would draw the line, but these guys are prize fighters...not gladiators.

Not the most articulate I have ever been...but I think you guys get where I am coming from.

 
Mir's standup .....WOW!!!!

Mir's tank isn't going to be long but stunned by his standup improvement. I'll give the guy credit. Thought the guy was absolutely done (and doing nothing more than collecting a check) a couple years ago.

Main card was really good. Some real slugfests.

 
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Mir is ####### gassed...he can barely talk in the post-fight interview.

one word...inhale...exhale...second word..inhale..exhale...

 
Man, Duffee ran right into that one. Bruuuuuuuutal shot.

Yeah, I wouldn't have minded at all if Ferguson/Thomson had been stopped in the second round with Ferguson's follow-up shots after the knockdown, despite realizing that technically Thomson was still trying.

 
Great couple fights to finish off a mostly bad card.

So Fedor says he wants to fight again. Pretty sure this will play out as either:

a) Months of rampant speculation that he'll come to the UFC then it never happens and he doesn't fight

or

b) He beats up some can in M1, people declare he is still the best heavyweight in the world, speculation on him fighting UFC HW champ. Never happens.

 
Some more chatter that the Aldo/McGregor fight might be held at Cowboy stadium in December.

Anyone up for a cornhole...because I don't see myself missing this experience.

 
these Reebok uniforms blow. i don't know who anybody is fighting on these overseas cards. and with them still pushing Fram Oil as much as they do, i'm starting to go toward Hooter's side here of just not liking the deal at all

 
these Reebok uniforms blow. i don't know who anybody is fighting on these overseas cards. and with them still pushing Fram Oil as much as they do, i'm starting to go toward Hooter's side here of just not liking the deal at all
I never really thought a lot about it from a fans perspective until they started wearing them. I didn't know every single fight was going to have the same pattern...over and over and over again. I think it sucks. And Wed night I finally realized the corner people match up too lol.
 
these Reebok uniforms blow. i don't know who anybody is fighting on these overseas cards. and with them still pushing Fram Oil as much as they do, i'm starting to go toward Hooter's side here of just not liking the deal at all
I never really thought a lot about it from a fans perspective until they started wearing them. I didn't know every single fight was going to have the same pattern...over and over and over again. I think it sucks. And Wed night I finally realized the corner people match up too lol.
for this card especially. Watching the prelims, and i had no idea who was who when they were fighting. i just wonder what the next steps are. Seems really silly to only have 2 color options for shorts, so i think we they move along maybe more options. I REALLY hope they don't do it all based on country of origin like i have seen for some, and they just give the fighter's a choice.

I didn't think it would hve as much of a factor as it has. Like Phil Davis wearing pink and stuff, think if Reebok doesn't start to do something or at least mention it it will hurt. Great opportunity for Bellator and others to take advantage of it too

 
I'm behind watching on the west coast and just watched the first fight.

I loved watching Whiteford jump out of the Octagon and jump into the stands to celebrate with his family.

I can't imagine all the hardwork, separation from family to pursue a dream and then winning a fight in the UFC in front of your home crowd.

A moment he will remember the rest of his life. Brought a little tear to my eye to see that celebration.
 
These uniforms are terrible. Somebody actually got paid to "design" these and a company actually paid to promote these.

Just a really odd and random set of "designs" if you call using different but similar patterns of black and white with a bit of grey thrown in here and there. I am watching the Finnish kid fight right now in the second fight against the Frenchie and I am thinking...

Hmm...were going to put blue font on the black portion of the shorts. What is this...a MySpace page from 2005.

I have seen the corner crews wearing different colors like green or having green flourishes....how in the hell did someone actually think...

"Hey...we're going to put all the fighters in dull black and white patterned shorts where you can't read the names."

It is almost akin to a Fortune 500 company paying a billboard company to put up a bunch of plain black and white billboards with their logo in the bottom right corner or something.

####### terrible.

 
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