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hooter311
Footballguy
This just makes too much sense.
modogg
Footballguy
Chael's situation sounds like it could be kind of ugly, but some other news today. It seems like Strikeforce is trying to put together an 8-man HWY tournament that will start on Feb 12. First round is Fedor-Antonio Silva, Overeem-Werdum, Barnett-Rogers, and Arlovski-Kharitonov. A lot of peopple are wondering if this will actually happen, but if it does, kudos to Strikeforce:http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/1/4/191347...rce-heavyweightLance Uppercut said:
Possum
Footballguy
tournament has been confirmed - Strikeforce Tournamentfirst two bouts (Fedor-Silva, Arlovski-Kharitonov) are supposed to happen February 12 in NJ, and the other two will happen March 5.Chael's situation sounds like it could be kind of ugly, but some other news today. It seems like Strikeforce is trying to put together an 8-man HWY tournament that will start on Feb 12. First round is Fedor-Antonio Silva, Overeem-Werdum, Barnett-Rogers, and Arlovski-Kharitonov. A lot of peopple are wondering if this will actually happen, but if it does, kudos to Strikeforce:http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/1/4/191347...rce-heavyweightLance Uppercut said:Phil Baroni cut from the UFC
Chael Sonnon may be facing jail for money laundering
editing Baroni link since "New York Bad ***" won't fly with the language filter here.
I have my doubts about how well this will go too, given SF's track record, but damn if it's not one of the more interesting things I've heard lately. I really hope they're able to pull this thing off.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Brandon Vera, Marcus Davis and Antonio McKee all cut from the UFC.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Machida vs Couture April 30th in Toronto? 
I hope it isn't true.
Jon Jones calling out Silva for playing "pattycake" on Vera's back. Maybe we get Jones vs Silva if Jones gets past Bader?
I hope it isn't true.Jon Jones calling out Silva for playing "pattycake" on Vera's back. Maybe we get Jones vs Silva if Jones gets past Bader?
Voice Of Reason
Footballguy
Didn't Fedor sign a 3 fight deal with SF? Any chances he bolts after the Bigfoot fight?tournament has been confirmed - Strikeforce Tournamentfirst two bouts (Fedor-Silva, Arlovski-Kharitonov) are supposed to happen February 12 in NJ, and the other two will happen March 5.Chael's situation sounds like it could be kind of ugly, but some other news today. It seems like Strikeforce is trying to put together an 8-man HWY tournament that will start on Feb 12. First round is Fedor-Antonio Silva, Overeem-Werdum, Barnett-Rogers, and Arlovski-Kharitonov. A lot of peopple are wondering if this will actually happen, but if it does, kudos to Strikeforce:http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/1/4/191347...rce-heavyweightPhil Baroni cut from the UFC
Chael Sonnon may be facing jail for money laundering
editing Baroni link since "New York Bad ***" won't fly with the language filter here.
I have my doubts about how well this will go too, given SF's track record, but damn if it's not one of the more interesting things I've heard lately. I really hope they're able to pull this thing off.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
They just re-signed him.Didn't Fedor sign a 3 fight deal with SF? Any chances he bolts after the Bigfoot fight?tournament has been confirmed - Strikeforce Tournamentfirst two bouts (Fedor-Silva, Arlovski-Kharitonov) are supposed to happen February 12 in NJ, and the other two will happen March 5.Chael's situation sounds like it could be kind of ugly, but some other news today. It seems like Strikeforce is trying to put together an 8-man HWY tournament that will start on Feb 12. First round is Fedor-Antonio Silva, Overeem-Werdum, Barnett-Rogers, and Arlovski-Kharitonov. A lot of peopple are wondering if this will actually happen, but if it does, kudos to Strikeforce:http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/1/4/191347...rce-heavyweightPhil Baroni cut from the UFC
Chael Sonnon may be facing jail for money laundering
editing Baroni link since "New York Bad ***" won't fly with the language filter here.
I have my doubts about how well this will go too, given SF's track record, but damn if it's not one of the more interesting things I've heard lately. I really hope they're able to pull this thing off.
Knowing M-1, it's always a good bet that they'll want to renegotiate.
So Dos Santos' team member get trainers from Black House while the other guys get big wrestlers from the middle of a corn field. Ugh.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
The Nogueira Brothers, Silva and Mark Munoz vs Marty Morgan, Erik Paulson and Peter WelchETA: Any guesses on what the line will open at and move to? I'd think that Lesnar would open as a slight favorite, maybe -140, then get bet down to even until close to the fight and then see a bunch of public $$$ come in on Lesnar.
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Sebowski
Footballguy
Lesnar has an awesome BJJ coach. Don't remember his name right now. Paulson is legit too.I just read JDS opened as a -155 favorite.The Nogueira Brothers, Silva and Mark Munoz vs Marty Morgan, Erik Paulson and Peter WelchETA: Any guesses on what the line will open at and move to? I'd think that Lesnar would open as a slight favorite, maybe -140, then get bet down to even until close to the fight and then see a bunch of public $$$ come in on Lesnar.
Voice Of Reason
Footballguy
Lesnar's team is underrated here. Paulson is a really good coach. The gameplan he devised for Lesnar on the ground vs Mir was one of the better scouting and coaching jobs I can recall in MMA.And I like Lesnar @ +130 right now, I'm a huge proponent of "striking opens up TD attempts" but I have little faith in JDS's wrestling to stuff Lesnar's bull rush.Lesnar has an awesome BJJ coach. Don't remember his name right now. Paulson is legit too.I just read JDS opened as a -155 favorite.The Nogueira Brothers, Silva and Mark Munoz vs Marty Morgan, Erik Paulson and Peter WelchETA: Any guesses on what the line will open at and move to? I'd think that Lesnar would open as a slight favorite, maybe -140, then get bet down to even until close to the fight and then see a bunch of public $$$ come in on Lesnar.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
I'm sure Lesnar's coaches are no slouches, but I don't think you can put together a much better team than the Nog's for BJJ and Silva for striking (maybe even Machida).Surprised that JDS opened as a favorite.Lesnar has an awesome BJJ coach. Don't remember his name right now. Paulson is legit too.I just read JDS opened as a -155 favorite.
Really? Lesnar has proven that he reacts terribly to getting hit in the face, and Dos Santos is pretty good at hitting people in the face. Of course, we have no idea how Dos Santos will handle Lesnar's wrestling, so there is no way I would risk any money on this fight.
Rodrigo "Comprido" Medeiros is Lesnar's jiu-jitsu coach. Lesnar can bring in a solid group, but his team will be second best.Lesnar has an awesome BJJ coach. Don't remember his name right now. Paulson is legit too.The Nogueira Brothers, Silva and Mark Munoz vs Marty Morgan, Erik Paulson and Peter WelchETA: Any guesses on what the line will open at and move to? I'd think that Lesnar would open as a slight favorite, maybe -140, then get bet down to even until close to the fight and then see a bunch of public $$$ come in on Lesnar.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
I would put money on JDS if I can get it close to even. Just expected Lesnar to open as the favorite because of the amount of fanboys he has behind him.Voice Of Reason
Footballguy
Fan boys typically don't bet opening lines. Right before fight time has been the best time to bet on Lesnar's opponent.I would put money on JDS if I can get it close to even. Just expected Lesnar to open as the favorite because of the amount of fanboys he has behind him.
Sebowski
Footballguy
I doubt all those guys will commit to coaching a season of TUF. They're likely to have cameos, but not to be on staff. They have their own fights to worry about.I'm sure Lesnar's coaches are no slouches, but I don't think you can put together a much better team than the Nog's for BJJ and Silva for striking (maybe even Machida).Surprised that JDS opened as a favorite.Lesnar has an awesome BJJ coach. Don't remember his name right now. Paulson is legit too.I just read JDS opened as a -155 favorite.
modogg
Footballguy
You have to feel bad for Bisping and Rashad with all of these. I know Rashad's face was put on to everything after machida KO'd him. as for the card this weekend, i think it could be pretty good. Guillard-Evan Dunham could be a good one if Guillard has continued to mentally grow. Also excited to see Cody McKenzie - Yves Edwards. Only bet so far, and i like this one a lot:Clayton Gray said:This is way old, but I just now saw it.
Cole Miller -170 over Matt Wiman - the only reason i don't completely unload on this is because Wiman has had a lot of time to improve. i haven't heard anything about him improving, and i think Cole is better then Wiman in every aspect
Dominick Cruz's hand after surgery. 
LHW Jon Jones next to the bigger Andrei Arlovski.
My best play this weekend is Mitrione. His matchup with Hague seems like a step back. Hague was 1-3 in his last UFC stint (and that win was after Pat Barry gave him his head for a guillotine). In Hague's four fights, he has was out-struck easily by Barry, KOed in 7 seconds by Todd Duffee, and decisioned by Chris Tuchscherer (who has looked mediocre) and Beltran (who Mitrione already beat and has looked just barely better than mediocre). Anyway, Mitrione is a meat head, but he's better than Hague.
LHW Jon Jones next to the bigger Andrei Arlovski.
My best play this weekend is Mitrione. His matchup with Hague seems like a step back. Hague was 1-3 in his last UFC stint (and that win was after Pat Barry gave him his head for a guillotine). In Hague's four fights, he has was out-struck easily by Barry, KOed in 7 seconds by Todd Duffee, and decisioned by Chris Tuchscherer (who has looked mediocre) and Beltran (who Mitrione already beat and has looked just barely better than mediocre). Anyway, Mitrione is a meat head, but he's better than Hague.
I think Henderson's face make the pic.You have to feel bad for Bisping and Rashad with all of these. I know Rashad's face was put on to everything after machida KO'd him.Clayton Gray said:This is way old, but I just now saw it.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Wow. How long till Jones can't cut the weight anymore? The guy is huge and hasn't even got his old man muscle yet.
hooter311
Footballguy
I think Mitrione actually has a decent future ahead of him. Really impressed with him utilizing leg kicks correctly against Kimbo. This one will not be close.Dominick Cruz's hand after surgery.
LHW Jon Jones next to the bigger Andrei Arlovski.
My best play this weekend is Mitrione. His matchup with Hague seems like a step back. Hague was 1-3 in his last UFC stint (and that win was after Pat Barry gave him his head for a guillotine). In Hague's four fights, he has was out-struck easily by Barry, KOed in 7 seconds by Todd Duffee, and decisioned by Chris Tuchscherer (who has looked mediocre) and Beltran (who Mitrione already beat and has looked just barely better than mediocre). Anyway, Mitrione is a meat head, but he's better than Hague.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
lot of you may know this already, but if you "like" the UFC on Facebook, you can watch a free stream of the prelims there on saturday.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
Are they also going to air on that TV station again (ION or something like that)? I just realized last week I have it.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
doesn't look like it.
Vote for the newest Octagon Girl (must have a Facebook account).
Abrantes
Footballguy
At one point, Yves was among the most exciting fighters in the world. His fight against Josh Thomson a few years back ended in one of my favorite knockouts ever. I doubt he'll ever be a top ten lightweight again, but he's definitely a sharp, well-rounded dude. I'm favoring him in tomorrow's fight due to experience, but won't be surprised if Cody adds another name to the guillotine victim list.And Thugjitsu is still funny.
modogg
Footballguy
Yves has been around forever, and is certainly a legit fighter. I can't remember his latest fight he had with his return to the octagon, but Yves should be savvy enough to avoid the guillotine. I can't blame you for betting on Cody because the guy has the heart and has had some time to up his training, but you can't underestimate Yves.for me, the accounts are low so i'm not too sure of any bets right now. I think I will take a little on Melvin over Dunham, i just think his work with Mike Winklejohn and traiing with Guida and Joe Daddy has his game at a level it was expected to be. I am thinking Dunham will have trouble taking Melvin down and holding him down when he is on the ground. I think it will be a good fight definitely. Also will mess around with some parlays to hope and get an easy jump in the acct. I have Mitrione, Berry, and Cole Miller in, and will mix in some other guys. I am a little concerned if Berry is healthy from his broken hand and foot, but i still can't imagine him losing to the Mexicutioner (though i am a bit of a fan of his). I have to think him and Meathead have been training like absolute madmen for their fights.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Buddy of mine used to train with him many years ago in Houston.
Agree with the others .. this certainly will be a good test for Cody. Yves hasn't fought any serious contenders in a while but he has a ton of experience and I wouldn't bet this fight either way. No idea what to expect.
modogg
Footballguy
kind of crazy how this card tonight doesn"t have really any push or excitement to it. I think it will be a good night of fights, and I think it will be a good card for fringe fans to watch because your bound to get some real good stand-up from most of the fights. Looking at the card that will be televised, i really see no chance for a boring fight or any lay-and-pray
i also had to get the wife's facebook account info. to watch the prelims. I'm guessing the UFC would rather show their stuff on facebook then the ION channel, certainly says something about ION
EDIT: Wow, not having it on TV can get kind of funny. While they were waiting for a decision to be called (usual commercial time) they had a good piece of Rogan totally ripping into Goldberg. I guess Goldberg is wearing feet warmers, and changed them during this commercial break, and it was kind of funny to hear Rogan rip into him pretty good
ETA2: Totally forgot about the last Fight for the Troops card, but i think we can prepar ourselves for a ton of USA chants. i think you may get smoe for Beltran, and maybe even Hogue, but that should be it.
i also had to get the wife's facebook account info. to watch the prelims. I'm guessing the UFC would rather show their stuff on facebook then the ION channel, certainly says something about ION
EDIT: Wow, not having it on TV can get kind of funny. While they were waiting for a decision to be called (usual commercial time) they had a good piece of Rogan totally ripping into Goldberg. I guess Goldberg is wearing feet warmers, and changed them during this commercial break, and it was kind of funny to hear Rogan rip into him pretty good
ETA2: Totally forgot about the last Fight for the Troops card, but i think we can prepar ourselves for a ton of USA chants. i think you may get smoe for Beltran, and maybe even Hogue, but that should be it.
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Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Wonder is Rogan knew he was on the mic when he was cutting into Goldberg about the feet warmers
modogg
Footballguy
yeah that was funny. But Goldy certainly deserved it, wearing feet warmers in 60 degree weather. I'm guessing there may be more during these prelims
sheerterror
Footballguy
Went light on this card with Johnson, Barry and Mitrione.
modogg
Footballguy
I hope Barry is healthy enough, but the guy is enough of a nut that i guess it doesn't matter. Continuing a fight with a broken hand and a broken foot againt Cro Cop is crazy in itselfAnd the undercard was a little tough. With the influx of WEC guys, there are quite a few guys I am not as fmailiar with as I wish i was to gamble on them.
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Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
AWFUL standup of the two fighters by Mirgliotta while the Brazilian was attempting a kimura
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
He has a sun tattooed around his belly button...
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Hard to believe Brown was the title holder as recently as Nov 09
He hit that wall hard and fast
He hit that wall hard and fast
Abrantes
Footballguy
Glad I was wrong.
modogg
Footballguy
McKenzie really is impressive. even if he loses this fight i think the UFC will keep him around
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Excellent reffing there IMO
Edwards was a huge jump in competition for MacKenzie
MacKenzie is a tough dude, am interested to see who he gets next
Edwards was a huge jump in competition for MacKenzie
MacKenzie is a tough dude, am interested to see who he gets next
Abrantes
Footballguy
Yeah, I really dig Cody's style too. Always willing to take a chance. Eager to see what he does with some more polish and experience.
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