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[AhrnCityPahnder]

I read Burt's departure had something to do with Mark Munoz's weight cut but havent read anything concrete.

 

[Abrantes]

"We're on to non-Ronda Rousey topics."

When I first saw Burt Watson doing his thang, I thought "who/what the heck is that?" Got used to it in time, but don't quite see the big deal about his schtick. I've seen people suggest he should be inducted into the UFC HOF. Personally, I'd find that preposterous, but I have zero respect for their HOF anyway ever since they put TapouT Mask in there posthumously, not long after barely acknowledging Helio Gracie's death. #### that.

As for the Josh Neer thing, feels like it was ages ago already, but wasn't covered much here. At any rate, heckler got what he asked for. Not pretty, but it's the truth.

 

[modogg]

"We're on to non-Ronda Rousey topics."

When I first saw Burt Watson doing his thang, I thought "who/what the heck is that?" Got used to it in time, but don't quite see the big deal about his schtick. I've seen people suggest he should be inducted into the UFC HOF. Personally, I'd find that preposterous, but I have zero respect for their HOF anyway ever since they put TapouT Mask in there posthumously, not long after barely acknowledging Helio Gracie's death. #### that.

As for the Josh Neer thing, feels like it was ages ago already, but wasn't covered much here. At any rate, heckler got what he asked for. Not pretty, but it's the truth.

yeah with the Neer thing, it seemed to be a big deal with the media, but like Ahrn said, Neer seems like the kind of guy who really would have no trouble kicking the crap out of somebody for enjoyment. I never looked at the details of what the other guy did, but it would be like going up and talking #### to the Diaz brothers in their face, and then getting mad when they start to beat the crap out of you

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/3/4/8150429/ufc-184-ronda-rousey-entourage-argument-dana-white-reason-burt-watson-quit-rumor-mma-news

Had no idea who the guy was. Allegedly had multiple incidents (with Munoz too) last event.

Whatever. Next person up.

 

[modogg]

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/3/4/8150429/ufc-184-ronda-rousey-entourage-argument-dana-white-reason-burt-watson-quit-rumor-mma-news

Had no idea who the guy was. Allegedly had multiple incidents (with Munoz too) last event.

Whatever. Next person up.

seemed to me that Burt was a little like Ronnie the Limo driver (the character, probably not real person. Seems like he was starting to get a big head and think he was an integral part to the whole thing

 

[Beerguzzler]

Do people actually enjoy her fights? i find them incredibly boring with her just going for an arm bar the whole time. Yes, it's great technique, but it's basically the equivalent of Russell Crowe in Gladiator - "are you not entertained!"

Nope. I want blood, guts, and a little playing with the food.

 

[EYLive]

Do people actually enjoy her fights? i find them incredibly boring with her just going for an arm bar the whole time. Yes, it's great technique, but it's basically the equivalent of Russell Crowe in Gladiator - "are you not entertained!"

Nope. I want blood, guts, and a little playing with the food.

That's easy to say when it's not your health on the line.

 

[grateful zed]

someone could start an RR thread.

 

[Abrantes]

Do people actually enjoy her fights? i find them incredibly boring with her just going for an arm bar the whole time. Yes, it's great technique, but it's basically the equivalent of Russell Crowe in Gladiator - "are you not entertained!"

Nope. I want blood, guts, and a little playing with the food.

Absolutely. I like MMA because I get to see Cool ****, first and foremost, and even though I find her personality/schtick grating, she's the one fighter in the UFC (maybe her and Showtime) who I see going for the kill every time. "All she does is go for the armbar" oversimplifies it a bit. The fascinating part is seeing her setting up the judo takedowns and armbars even though the opponent is perfectly aware of her gameplan. Cool ####. Rousey/Zingano was blink-and-you-missed-it, but it fascinates me that anyone could say it wasn't cool.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Do people actually enjoy her fights? i find them incredibly boring with her just going for an arm bar the whole time. Yes, it's great technique, but it's basically the equivalent of Russell Crowe in Gladiator - "are you not entertained!"

Nope. I want blood, guts, and a little playing with the food.

Yes, I like that she finishes every fight and it doesn't matter to me whether it is an armbar or a bloodbath. In fact, I kind of prefer seeing a submission win that isn't a RNC over a KO.

And...

No, because you know it isn't going to be a competitive fight.

 

[Possum]

So one thing that no one mentioned is Burt Watson leaving the UFC. Ahrn and some others have talked me into the reddit MMA (which i am still trying to figure out), but only have heard rumors about some big falling out at the weigh-ins. I do wonder what happened, but it seemed a lot of fighters say they will miss him.

Me personally, i would always think how annoying his catch phrases would be as i am focusing going out to fight. I'm probably wrong here, but just would always think that i don't need this dude yelling at me telling me we are rolling as i a getting ready to walk out and fight

yeah, this is basically how I feel about the guy from a fan's perspective. On the last Fighter and the Kid, though, Schaub was pretty adamant that Watson is great for the fighters and an integral part of the UFC's backstage production, and he claims that they're going to have a really tough time replacing him. I find that a little hard to believe, personally, but that's his opinion.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Early estimates are saying 500-600K PPV buys. That's amazing.

 

[Possum]

how do you guys see the RDA-Pettis and Hendricks-Brown fights going next week? These should be a couple of awesome scraps.

RDA-Pettis: have to have Pettis as the favorite here, but Dos Anjos has been in beast mode for a while now. His only loss in the last 3.5 years is to Khabib and that only happened because he couldn't stay on his feet. Khabib is on a whole different level as a wrestler than anybody else at lightweight though (and I like him to beat Pettis too if they meet for the belt), and Pettis isn't going to try to take RDA down anyway, so this fight should happen standing up for the most part. Dos Anjos hasn't ever been past the third round yet, but he's got crazy cardio and I doubt that would be a big factor.

Hendricks-Brown: my first reaction looking at this is to say Johny shouldn't have any problems winning this. But then I'm thinking of how fat he got before the second Lawler fight and wondering what his motivation is like now - you don't want to step into the cage with Brown if you've been half-assing your training. Hendricks also hasn't been using his wrestling in fights a whole lot lately. I could easily see Hendricks coming in chubby, getting tired early and then getting worked over in the later rounds to lose this fight. On the other hand, if he comes in motivated and in shape, I could see him dominating Brown with takedowns and big punches and making it a pretty one-sided decision.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/3/4/8150429/ufc-184-ronda-rousey-entourage-argument-dana-white-reason-burt-watson-quit-rumor-mma-news

UPDATE regarding @BurtWatson4real. Burt got into an argument with a member of Ronda's entourage.
— FrontRowBrian® (@FrontRowBrian) March 4, 2015

When Dana was made aware of argument between Burt &the member of Ronda's entourage, Dana sided with Team Rousey. Burt was insulted and quit
— FrontRowBrian® (@FrontRowBrian) March 4, 2015

I was told by 1 source that Ronda is the only 1 they'd cross Burt for. Burt took a lot of pride in what he did &didn't like to be questioned

— FrontRowBrian® (@FrontRowBrian) March 4, 2015

There was an "incident" of sorts with Munoz but it was a separate incident and not serious compared to argument with Team Rousey.
— FrontRowBrian® (@FrontRowBrian) March 4, 2015

 

[SacramentoBob]

how do you guys see the RDA-Pettis and Hendricks-Brown fights going next week? These should be a couple of awesome scraps.

RDA-Pettis: have to have Pettis as the favorite here, but Dos Anjos has been in beast mode for a while now. His only loss in the last 3.5 years is to Khabib and that only happened because he couldn't stay on his feet. Khabib is on a whole different level as a wrestler than anybody else at lightweight though (and I like him to beat Pettis too if they meet for the belt), and Pettis isn't going to try to take RDA down anyway, so this fight should happen standing up for the most part. Dos Anjos hasn't ever been past the third round yet, but he's got crazy cardio and I doubt that would be a big factor.

Hendricks-Brown: my first reaction looking at this is to say Johny shouldn't have any problems winning this. But then I'm thinking of how fat he got before the second Lawler fight and wondering what his motivation is like now - you don't want to step into the cage with Brown if you've been half-assing your training. Hendricks also hasn't been using his wrestling in fights a whole lot lately. I could easily see Hendricks coming in chubby, getting tired early and then getting worked over in the later rounds to lose this fight. On the other hand, if he comes in motivated and in shape, I could see him dominating Brown with takedowns and big punches and making it a pretty one-sided decision.

Pettis is better and will win.

Hendricks is better, but Brown won't fade in the 4th and 5th rounds against Hendricks if he doesn't come in top shape. He could eek out a decision, and he has good power as well. His key to winning is the same as Lawler's last fight; come out aggressive and make him respect your punching and outlast him in the championship rounds.

 

[moleculo]

Do people actually enjoy her fights? i find them incredibly boring with her just going for an arm bar the whole time. Yes, it's great technique, but it's basically the equivalent of Russell Crowe in Gladiator - "are you not entertained!"

Nope. I want blood, guts, and a little playing with the food.

personally, I enjoy the technical aspect of MMA. Blood-baths turn my stomach. I like seeing #### I haven't seen before. I like high-level grappling technique being applied. I like seeing measured, controlled aggression.

also, there's really no such a thing as a regular arm-bar. "just going for an arm bar the whole time" to me is equivalent to saying, "all the Seahawks do is run the ball the whole time". If that's all you are seeing, you are missing out on a lot of nuances.

That's just me though. I understand how others like the blood and gore but I've found that as I got older and had kids playing sports, I no longer enjoy the violence. I have quite a few friends who fight - I know they get better pretty quickly and all of the blood is superficial, but I still don't like seeing it.

 

[modogg]

how do you guys see the RDA-Pettis and Hendricks-Brown fights going next week? These should be a couple of awesome scraps.

RDA-Pettis: have to have Pettis as the favorite here, but Dos Anjos has been in beast mode for a while now. His only loss in the last 3.5 years is to Khabib and that only happened because he couldn't stay on his feet. Khabib is on a whole different level as a wrestler than anybody else at lightweight though (and I like him to beat Pettis too if they meet for the belt), and Pettis isn't going to try to take RDA down anyway, so this fight should happen standing up for the most part. Dos Anjos hasn't ever been past the third round yet, but he's got crazy cardio and I doubt that would be a big factor.

Hendricks-Brown: my first reaction looking at this is to say Johny shouldn't have any problems winning this. But then I'm thinking of how fat he got before the second Lawler fight and wondering what his motivation is like now - you don't want to step into the cage with Brown if you've been half-assing your training. Hendricks also hasn't been using his wrestling in fights a whole lot lately. I could easily see Hendricks coming in chubby, getting tired early and then getting worked over in the later rounds to lose this fight. On the other hand, if he comes in motivated and in shape, I could see him dominating Brown with takedowns and big punches and making it a pretty one-sided decision.

Pettis is better and will win.

Hendricks is better, but Brown won't fade in the 4th and 5th rounds against Hendricks if he doesn't come in top shape. He could eek out a decision, and he has good power as well. His key to winning is the same as Lawler's last fight; come out aggressive and make him respect your punching and outlast him in the championship rounds.

my money will be on Pettis and Brown

 

[modogg]

Do people actually enjoy her fights? i find them incredibly boring with her just going for an arm bar the whole time. Yes, it's great technique, but it's basically the equivalent of Russell Crowe in Gladiator - "are you not entertained!"

Nope. I want blood, guts, and a little playing with the food.

personally, I enjoy the technical aspect of MMA. Blood-baths turn my stomach. I like seeing #### I haven't seen before. I like high-level grappling technique being applied. I like seeing measured, controlled aggression.

also, there's really no such a thing as a regular arm-bar. "just going for an arm bar the whole time" to me is equivalent to saying, "all the Seahawks do is run the ball the whole time". If that's all you are seeing, you are missing out on a lot of nuances.

That's just me though. I understand how others like the blood and gore but I've found that as I got older and had kids playing sports, I no longer enjoy the violence. I have quite a few friends who fight - I know they get better pretty quickly and all of the blood is superficial, but I still don't like seeing it.

your buddy was the one on the wrong end of the Uriah Hall KO reel from the TUF season right? How is he doing? I hope he is winning some fights and doing well

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

What do you guys know about this "frontrowbrian" guy on twitter? some people seem to think he's a solid dude for inside info, but other people think he's a total jabronie. I have no opinion of him.

 

[modogg]

What do you guys know about this "frontrowbrian" guy on twitter? some people seem to think he's a solid dude for inside info, but other people think he's a total jabronie. I have no opinion of him.

I don't know much about him either, only what I have read in the comments sections of this story. Consensus seems to be he is at least a fun follow cause when he is right with having the correct info he brags endlessly, and when he is wrong the bickering gets good

 

[Cliff Clavin]

What do you guys know about this "frontrowbrian" guy on twitter? some people seem to think he's a solid dude for inside info, but other people think he's a total jabronie. I have no opinion of him.

No idea. If Bloody Elbow is using him as a source, he has to be kind of legitimate, doesn't he?

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Do people actually enjoy her fights? i find them incredibly boring with her just going for an arm bar the whole time. Yes, it's great technique, but it's basically the equivalent of Russell Crowe in Gladiator - "are you not entertained!"

Nope. I want blood, guts, and a little playing with the food.

personally, I enjoy the technical aspect of MMA. Blood-baths turn my stomach. I like seeing #### I haven't seen before. I like high-level grappling technique being applied. I like seeing measured, controlled aggression.

also, there's really no such a thing as a regular arm-bar. "just going for an arm bar the whole time" to me is equivalent to saying, "all the Seahawks do is run the ball the whole time". If that's all you are seeing, you are missing out on a lot of nuances.

That's just me though. I understand how others like the blood and gore but I've found that as I got older and had kids playing sports, I no longer enjoy the violence. I have quite a few friends who fight - I know they get better pretty quickly and all of the blood is superficial, but I still don't like seeing it.

your buddy was the one on the wrong end of the Uriah Hall KO reel from the TUF season right? How is he doing? I hope he is winning some fights and doing well

That was Brady Marino, I think -- not moleculo.

 

[modogg]

Bellator's contract for Rampage had some of the following:

Whether or not the promotion was obligated to serve Jackson a copy of its filing with the Superior Court in Burlington County, New Jersey, is up for debate, but the paperwork definitely exists and reveals why Bellator believes it more than held up its end of the contractual bargain.

Key points to consider from its application for injunctive relief (via Newsday.com):

• Bellator gave Jackson a $129,603 Telsa Sport and a $100,000 signing bonus in 2013.
• Jackson was to receive $200,000 minimum per fight, capped at $300K for non-PPV bouts, with an upper ceiling of $450K for PPV.
• Jackson was to receive 30% of the gate above $400,000 at any live event he was on.
• Bellator paid Jackson $35,000 per episode of "Rampage 4 Real" on Spike TV.
• Bellator spent $200,000 to secure the rights to a Rolling Stones song for a Jackson promo.
• The contract stipulated that Bellator hire a screenwriter to develop feature films for Jackson.

Bellator's court documents also refer to Jackson as a "diminished" fighter and say that it "rebuilt Jackson's reputation in the MMA industry" during his three-fight tenure, with three fights still remaining on his deal. It also claims Jackson was the one who breached his contract by not revealing UFC's offer and giving officials 12 months to match any offers from competing promotions.

from: http://www.mmamania.com/2015/3/5/8152471/bellator-injunction-reveals-exorbitant-contract-perks-rampage-jackson-ufc-legal-battle-mma

I have to think if I am any other fighter on that Bellator roster I am pissed when I see some of this.

 

[StrikeS2k]

Bellator's contract for Rampage had some of the following:

Whether or not the promotion was obligated to serve Jackson a copy of its filing with the Superior Court in Burlington County, New Jersey, is up for debate, but the paperwork definitely exists and reveals why Bellator believes it more than held up its end of the contractual bargain.

Key points to consider from its application for injunctive relief (via Newsday.com):

• Bellator gave Jackson a $129,603 Telsa Sport and a $100,000 signing bonus in 2013.
• Jackson was to receive $200,000 minimum per fight, capped at $300K for non-PPV bouts, with an upper ceiling of $450K for PPV.
• Jackson was to receive 30% of the gate above $400,000 at any live event he was on.
• Bellator paid Jackson $35,000 per episode of "Rampage 4 Real" on Spike TV.
• Bellator spent $200,000 to secure the rights to a Rolling Stones song for a Jackson promo.
• The contract stipulated that Bellator hire a screenwriter to develop feature films for Jackson.

Bellator's court documents also refer to Jackson as a "diminished" fighter and say that it "rebuilt Jackson's reputation in the MMA industry" during his three-fight tenure, with three fights still remaining on his deal. It also claims Jackson was the one who breached his contract by not revealing UFC's offer and giving officials 12 months to match any offers from competing promotions.

from: http://www.mmamania.com/2015/3/5/8152471/bellator-injunction-reveals-exorbitant-contract-perks-rampage-jackson-ufc-legal-battle-mma

I have to think if I am any other fighter on that Bellator roster I am pissed when I see some of this.

Why?

 

[Abrantes]

Pettis has to be the clear favorite, but I'm not counting Rafa out. He's not on Pettis' level in terms of striking technique, but he has improved greatly in recent years. He also has a tremendous chin (only KO loss was Jeremy Stephens' brutal uppercut in 2008) and a great ground game. His best bet is to take it to the ground, but I can see him just grinding away in the standup game as well.

 

[modogg]

Bellator's contract for Rampage had some of the following:

Whether or not the promotion was obligated to serve Jackson a copy of its filing with the Superior Court in Burlington County, New Jersey, is up for debate, but the paperwork definitely exists and reveals why Bellator believes it more than held up its end of the contractual bargain.

Key points to consider from its application for injunctive relief (via Newsday.com):

• Bellator gave Jackson a $129,603 Telsa Sport and a $100,000 signing bonus in 2013.
• Jackson was to receive $200,000 minimum per fight, capped at $300K for non-PPV bouts, with an upper ceiling of $450K for PPV.
• Jackson was to receive 30% of the gate above $400,000 at any live event he was on.
• Bellator paid Jackson $35,000 per episode of "Rampage 4 Real" on Spike TV.
• Bellator spent $200,000 to secure the rights to a Rolling Stones song for a Jackson promo.
• The contract stipulated that Bellator hire a screenwriter to develop feature films for Jackson.

Bellator's court documents also refer to Jackson as a "diminished" fighter and say that it "rebuilt Jackson's reputation in the MMA industry" during his three-fight tenure, with three fights still remaining on his deal. It also claims Jackson was the one who breached his contract by not revealing UFC's offer and giving officials 12 months to match any offers from competing promotions.

from: http://www.mmamania.com/2015/3/5/8152471/bellator-injunction-reveals-exorbitant-contract-perks-rampage-jackson-ufc-legal-battle-mma

I have to think if I am any other fighter on that Bellator roster I am pissed when I see some of this.

Why?

cause Rampage is a shell of what he used to be. I don't even know if he even really trains for his fights anymore. I guess I am speaking from the whole Eddie Alvarez crap they pulled holding him out of action for over a year dragging him through court and crap, when they look to give Rampage a bunch of benefits for putting on crappy fights. Seeing how Tito-Bonner got 1.8 million viewers, it is obvious that any "name" can bring viewers so there is no need to give Rampage anything special. But yeah, this is a whole other regime and not the way things are now I am guessing

 

[Possum]

how do you guys see the RDA-Pettis and Hendricks-Brown fights going next week? These should be a couple of awesome scraps.

RDA-Pettis: have to have Pettis as the favorite here, but Dos Anjos has been in beast mode for a while now. His only loss in the last 3.5 years is to Khabib and that only happened because he couldn't stay on his feet. Khabib is on a whole different level as a wrestler than anybody else at lightweight though (and I like him to beat Pettis too if they meet for the belt), and Pettis isn't going to try to take RDA down anyway, so this fight should happen standing up for the most part. Dos Anjos hasn't ever been past the third round yet, but he's got crazy cardio and I doubt that would be a big factor.

Hendricks-Brown: my first reaction looking at this is to say Johny shouldn't have any problems winning this. But then I'm thinking of how fat he got before the second Lawler fight and wondering what his motivation is like now - you don't want to step into the cage with Brown if you've been half-assing your training. Hendricks also hasn't been using his wrestling in fights a whole lot lately. I could easily see Hendricks coming in chubby, getting tired early and then getting worked over in the later rounds to lose this fight. On the other hand, if he comes in motivated and in shape, I could see him dominating Brown with takedowns and big punches and making it a pretty one-sided decision.

Pettis is better and will win.

Hendricks is better, but Brown won't fade in the 4th and 5th rounds against Hendricks if he doesn't come in top shape. He could eek out a decision, and he has good power as well. His key to winning is the same as Lawler's last fight; come out aggressive and make him respect your punching and outlast him in the championship rounds.

Pettis is definitey a killer - I could see it end up a lot like Aldo-Lamas where you've got a really athletic, strong, tough challenger who's just not quite skilled enough to match the champ.

only issue for Brown is that I don't think he's got Lawler-level power, he's more of a damage accumulator type puncher. I think his best route to a win is his body work, wear Hendricks down and try to avoid big shots while doing it. If Johny decides to take him down constantly though, I just see it being lopsided because Brown doesn't stop takedowns worth a crap and won't have the power to keep Hendricks off him.

I've got much respect for Matt Brown though - love watching him fight.

 

[StrikeS2k]

Bellator's contract for Rampage had some of the following:

Whether or not the promotion was obligated to serve Jackson a copy of its filing with the Superior Court in Burlington County, New Jersey, is up for debate, but the paperwork definitely exists and reveals why Bellator believes it more than held up its end of the contractual bargain.

Key points to consider from its application for injunctive relief (via Newsday.com):

• Bellator gave Jackson a $129,603 Telsa Sport and a $100,000 signing bonus in 2013.
• Jackson was to receive $200,000 minimum per fight, capped at $300K for non-PPV bouts, with an upper ceiling of $450K for PPV.
• Jackson was to receive 30% of the gate above $400,000 at any live event he was on.
• Bellator paid Jackson $35,000 per episode of "Rampage 4 Real" on Spike TV.
• Bellator spent $200,000 to secure the rights to a Rolling Stones song for a Jackson promo.
• The contract stipulated that Bellator hire a screenwriter to develop feature films for Jackson.

Bellator's court documents also refer to Jackson as a "diminished" fighter and say that it "rebuilt Jackson's reputation in the MMA industry" during his three-fight tenure, with three fights still remaining on his deal. It also claims Jackson was the one who breached his contract by not revealing UFC's offer and giving officials 12 months to match any offers from competing promotions.

from: http://www.mmamania.com/2015/3/5/8152471/bellator-injunction-reveals-exorbitant-contract-perks-rampage-jackson-ufc-legal-battle-mma

I have to think if I am any other fighter on that Bellator roster I am pissed when I see some of this.

Why?

cause Rampage is a shell of what he used to be. I don't even know if he even really trains for his fights anymore. I guess I am speaking from the whole Eddie Alvarez crap they pulled holding him out of action for over a year dragging him through court and crap, when they look to give Rampage a bunch of benefits for putting on crappy fights. Seeing how Tito-Bonner got 1.8 million viewers, it is obvious that any "name" can bring viewers so there is no need to give Rampage anything special. But yeah, this is a whole other regime and not the way things are now I am guessing

Do we know the details of Tito's contract? How much are they paying Kimbo Slice and Ken Shamrock? The bottom line is any fighter that fills the stands will get paid, by one organization or another. I don't see why any up and comer in a 2nd rate organization should complain that a major name is being paid more than them.

 

[Possum]

What do you guys know about this "frontrowbrian" guy on twitter? some people seem to think he's a solid dude for inside info, but other people think he's a total jabronie. I have no opinion of him.

I've seen his name get mentioned a lot on the MMA Underground forum with breaking news/rumors. Like you said, about half the people there seem to think he's a legit source and the other half think he's worthless.

 

[moleculo]

Do people actually enjoy her fights? i find them incredibly boring with her just going for an arm bar the whole time. Yes, it's great technique, but it's basically the equivalent of Russell Crowe in Gladiator - "are you not entertained!"

Nope. I want blood, guts, and a little playing with the food.

personally, I enjoy the technical aspect of MMA. Blood-baths turn my stomach. I like seeing #### I haven't seen before. I like high-level grappling technique being applied. I like seeing measured, controlled aggression.

also, there's really no such a thing as a regular arm-bar. "just going for an arm bar the whole time" to me is equivalent to saying, "all the Seahawks do is run the ball the whole time". If that's all you are seeing, you are missing out on a lot of nuances.

That's just me though. I understand how others like the blood and gore but I've found that as I got older and had kids playing sports, I no longer enjoy the violence. I have quite a few friends who fight - I know they get better pretty quickly and all of the blood is superficial, but I still don't like seeing it.

your buddy was the one on the wrong end of the Uriah Hall KO reel from the TUF season right? How is he doing? I hope he is winning some fights and doing well

That was Brady Marino, I think -- not moleculo.

yeah, it wasn't anyone I know.

My closest connections to the big show are:

• I was college teammates with Matt Hamill.
• one instructor at my gym, whom I am good friends with, is a pro fighter at 145 lbs and hopes to make it to the UFC once he drops to 135. He was actually an alternate to be on TUF 3 or 4 years ago - flew out to Vegas and everything. He has gone a few times to train at Team Alpha Male with Faber and Mendes and those guys.
• there is a coach at FitNHB in Albequerque, NM that I've known since first grade. I guess he has one or two guys make it to UFC, but his guys mostly fight out of King of the Cage.
• I know a few guys who have fought in the XFC promotion which used to air on Axis TV.

 

[modogg]

I hate continuing this, but Rhonda vs. Uriah Hall (without punches I believe):

http://www.mmamania.com/2013/4/2/4176668/the-ultimate-fighter-17-uriah-hall-vs-ronda-rousey

 

[Possum]

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Do people actually enjoy her fights? i find them incredibly boring with her just going for an arm bar the whole time. Yes, it's great technique, but it's basically the equivalent of Russell Crowe in Gladiator - "are you not entertained!"Nope. I want blood, guts, and a little playing with the food.

personally, I enjoy the technical aspect of MMA. Blood-baths turn my stomach. I like seeing #### I haven't seen before. I like high-level grappling technique being applied. I like seeing measured, controlled aggression. also, there's really no such a thing as a regular arm-bar. "just going for an arm bar the whole time" to me is equivalent to saying, "all the Seahawks do is run the ball the whole time". If that's all you are seeing, you are missing out on a lot of nuances. That's just me though. I understand how others like the blood and gore but I've found that as I got older and had kids playing sports, I no longer enjoy the violence. I have quite a few friends who fight - I know they get better pretty quickly and all of the blood is superficial, but I still don't like seeing it.

your buddy was the one on the wrong end of the Uriah Hall KO reel from the TUF season right? How is he doing? I hope he is winning some fights and doing well

That was Brady Marino, I think -- not moleculo.

yeah, it wasn't anyone I know. My closest connections to the big show are:

• I was college teammates with Matt Hamill.
• one instructor at my gym, whom I am good friends with, is a pro fighter at 145 lbs and hopes to make it to the UFC once he drops to 135. He was actually an alternate to be on TUF 3 or 4 years ago - flew out to Vegas and everything. He has gone a few times to train at Team Alpha Male with Faber and Mendes and those guys.
• there is a coach at FitNHB in Albequerque, NM that I've known since first grade. I guess he has one or two guys make it to UFC, but his guys mostly fight out of King of the Cage.
• I know a few guys who have fought in the XFC promotion which used to air on Axis TV.

very cool - just saw the other day that he's returning to action the end of this month in WSOF against Thiago Silva.

 

[sheerterror]

how do you guys see the RDA-Pettis and Hendricks-Brown fights going next week? These should be a couple of awesome scraps.

RDA-Pettis: have to have Pettis as the favorite here, but Dos Anjos has been in beast mode for a while now. His only loss in the last 3.5 years is to Khabib and that only happened because he couldn't stay on his feet. Khabib is on a whole different level as a wrestler than anybody else at lightweight though (and I like him to beat Pettis too if they meet for the belt), and Pettis isn't going to try to take RDA down anyway, so this fight should happen standing up for the most part. Dos Anjos hasn't ever been past the third round yet, but he's got crazy cardio and I doubt that would be a big factor.

Hendricks-Brown: my first reaction looking at this is to say Johny shouldn't have any problems winning this. But then I'm thinking of how fat he got before the second Lawler fight and wondering what his motivation is like now - you don't want to step into the cage with Brown if you've been half-assing your training. Hendricks also hasn't been using his wrestling in fights a whole lot lately. I could easily see Hendricks coming in chubby, getting tired early and then getting worked over in the later rounds to lose this fight. On the other hand, if he comes in motivated and in shape, I could see him dominating Brown with takedowns and big punches and making it a pretty one-sided decision.

Pettis is better and will win.

Hendricks is better, but Brown won't fade in the 4th and 5th rounds against Hendricks if he doesn't come in top shape. He could eek out a decision, and he has good power as well. His key to winning is the same as Lawler's last fight; come out aggressive and make him respect your punching and outlast him in the championship rounds.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Brown-Hendricks is a 3 round fight, not a 5 rounder.

I tend to lean Brown from a betting standpoint due his sizeable underdog odds. I'm not sure what it is about Hendricks, but I question his motivation coming into this fight. I was at Lawler-Hendricks 2, and the way he pouted and ran out of the cage makes me think he's a bit of a baby, and may not be truly "into" a non title fight. Granted, I've read zero regarding him since that fight up until now so I could certainly be off base, but would not surprise me to see a gamer like Brown come in and steal this one - especially if Hendricks comes in chubby as usual.

 

[Possum]

how do you guys see the RDA-Pettis and Hendricks-Brown fights going next week? These should be a couple of awesome scraps.

RDA-Pettis: have to have Pettis as the favorite here, but Dos Anjos has been in beast mode for a while now. His only loss in the last 3.5 years is to Khabib and that only happened because he couldn't stay on his feet. Khabib is on a whole different level as a wrestler than anybody else at lightweight though (and I like him to beat Pettis too if they meet for the belt), and Pettis isn't going to try to take RDA down anyway, so this fight should happen standing up for the most part. Dos Anjos hasn't ever been past the third round yet, but he's got crazy cardio and I doubt that would be a big factor.

Hendricks-Brown: my first reaction looking at this is to say Johny shouldn't have any problems winning this. But then I'm thinking of how fat he got before the second Lawler fight and wondering what his motivation is like now - you don't want to step into the cage with Brown if you've been half-assing your training. Hendricks also hasn't been using his wrestling in fights a whole lot lately. I could easily see Hendricks coming in chubby, getting tired early and then getting worked over in the later rounds to lose this fight. On the other hand, if he comes in motivated and in shape, I could see him dominating Brown with takedowns and big punches and making it a pretty one-sided decision.

Pettis is better and will win.

Hendricks is better, but Brown won't fade in the 4th and 5th rounds against Hendricks if he doesn't come in top shape. He could eek out a decision, and he has good power as well. His key to winning is the same as Lawler's last fight; come out aggressive and make him respect your punching and outlast him in the championship rounds.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Brown-Hendricks is a 3 round fight, not a 5 rounder.

I tend to lean Brown from a betting standpoint due his sizeable underdog odds. I'm not sure what it is about Hendricks, but I question his motivation coming into this fight. I was at Lawler-Hendricks 2, and the way he pouted and ran out of the cage makes me think he's a bit of a baby, and may not be truly "into" a non title fight. Granted, I've read zero regarding him since that fight up until now so I could certainly be off base, but would not surprise me to see a gamer like Brown come in and steal this one - especially if Hendricks comes in chubby as usual.

damn, good point sheer - I had forgotten about that too. My brain just saw Hendricks-Brown and automatically thought "5 round main event."

 

[modogg]

how do you guys see the RDA-Pettis and Hendricks-Brown fights going next week? These should be a couple of awesome scraps.

RDA-Pettis: have to have Pettis as the favorite here, but Dos Anjos has been in beast mode for a while now. His only loss in the last 3.5 years is to Khabib and that only happened because he couldn't stay on his feet. Khabib is on a whole different level as a wrestler than anybody else at lightweight though (and I like him to beat Pettis too if they meet for the belt), and Pettis isn't going to try to take RDA down anyway, so this fight should happen standing up for the most part. Dos Anjos hasn't ever been past the third round yet, but he's got crazy cardio and I doubt that would be a big factor.

Hendricks-Brown: my first reaction looking at this is to say Johny shouldn't have any problems winning this. But then I'm thinking of how fat he got before the second Lawler fight and wondering what his motivation is like now - you don't want to step into the cage with Brown if you've been half-assing your training. Hendricks also hasn't been using his wrestling in fights a whole lot lately. I could easily see Hendricks coming in chubby, getting tired early and then getting worked over in the later rounds to lose this fight. On the other hand, if he comes in motivated and in shape, I could see him dominating Brown with takedowns and big punches and making it a pretty one-sided decision.

Pettis is better and will win.

Hendricks is better, but Brown won't fade in the 4th and 5th rounds against Hendricks if he doesn't come in top shape. He could eek out a decision, and he has good power as well. His key to winning is the same as Lawler's last fight; come out aggressive and make him respect your punching and outlast him in the championship rounds.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Brown-Hendricks is a 3 round fight, not a 5 rounder.

I tend to lean Brown from a betting standpoint due his sizeable underdog odds. I'm not sure what it is about Hendricks, but I question his motivation coming into this fight. I was at Lawler-Hendricks 2, and the way he pouted and ran out of the cage makes me think he's a bit of a baby, and may not be truly "into" a non title fight. Granted, I've read zero regarding him since that fight up until now so I could certainly be off base, but would not surprise me to see a gamer like Brown come in and steal this one - especially if Hendricks comes in chubby as usual.

I've thought this about Hendricks for awhile, and have based it off of no facts at all . Hooking up with fellow cry baby Laimon and seeing how much they pouted about the GSP fight, and how Johnny refuses to control his weight when he isn't a few weeks out of a fight makes me think Brown will be too much for him

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I want hendricks to lose for no other reason than TEH BIGG RIGG is the worst nickname this side of "the muscle shark".

 

[modogg]

I want hendricks to lose for no other reason than TEH BIGG RIGG is the worst nickname this side of "the muscle shark".

have to disagree. WHat is one of the recent TUF guys nickname, "25/7 Beastin'" or something. tried looking it up cause I couldn't remember but it is bad. here is an article from bleacherreport with some others: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1735471-the-25-worst-nicknames-in-mma-history/page/26

there are some good one's. I like Pedro "The Pedro" Octavio

 

[SacramentoBob]

I want hendricks to lose for no other reason than TEH BIGG RIGG is the worst nickname this side of "the muscle shark".

have to disagree. WHat is one of the recent TUF guys nickname, "25/7 Beastin'" or something. tried looking it up cause I couldn't remember but it is bad. here is an article from bleacherreport with some others: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1735471-the-25-worst-nicknames-in-mma-history/page/26

there are some good one's. I like Pedro "The Pedro" Octavio

Still think if Cerrone changed from Cowboy to Rice, he'd have the best nickname ever.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I want hendricks to lose for no other reason than TEH BIGG RIGG is the worst nickname this side of "the muscle shark".

have to disagree. WHat is one of the recent TUF guys nickname, "25/7 Beastin'" or something. tried looking it up cause I couldn't remember but it is bad. here is an article from bleacherreport with some others: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1735471-the-25-worst-nicknames-in-mma-history/page/26

there are some good one's. I like Pedro "The Pedro" Octavio

I'm a fan of all the self-depricating sissy sounding ones. "tickle fight", "fancy pants", etc. Nice contrast to the flaming skull motorcycle assassin murderers.

Just like I'd love for a fighter to come out to the theme to the Smurfs or Sesame Street or something.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I want hendricks to lose for no other reason than TEH BIGG RIGG is the worst nickname this side of "the muscle shark".

have to disagree. WHat is one of the recent TUF guys nickname, "25/7 Beastin'" or something. tried looking it up cause I couldn't remember but it is bad. here is an article from bleacherreport with some others: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1735471-the-25-worst-nicknames-in-mma-history/page/26

there are some good one's. I like Pedro "The Pedro" Octavio

Still think if Cerrone changed from Cowboy to Rice, he'd have the best nickname ever.

He's left so much money on the table with this missed sponsorship.

 

[sheerterror]

I want hendricks to lose for no other reason than TEH BIGG RIGG is the worst nickname this side of "the muscle shark".

have to disagree. WHat is one of the recent TUF guys nickname, "25/7 Beastin'" or something. tried looking it up cause I couldn't remember but it is bad. here is an article from bleacherreport with some others: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1735471-the-25-worst-nicknames-in-mma-history/page/26

there are some good one's. I like Pedro "The Pedro" Octavio

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Corey-Anderson-171723

Corey "Beastin 25/8" Anderson. Fighting my friend in Newark in April.

 

[EYLive]

I want hendricks to lose for no other reason than TEH BIGG RIGG is the worst nickname this side of "the muscle shark".

On the flip side "Immortal" is pretty cool. Another reason I want Brown to win.

 

[modogg]

I want hendricks to lose for no other reason than TEH BIGG RIGG is the worst nickname this side of "the muscle shark".

have to disagree. WHat is one of the recent TUF guys nickname, "25/7 Beastin'" or something. tried looking it up cause I couldn't remember but it is bad. here is an article from bleacherreport with some others: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1735471-the-25-worst-nicknames-in-mma-history/page/26

there are some good one's. I like Pedro "The Pedro" Octavio

I'm a fan of all the self-depricating sissy sounding ones. "tickle fight", "fancy pants", etc. Nice contrast to the flaming skull motorcycle assassin murderers.

Just like I'd love for a fighter to come out to the theme to the Smurfs or Sesame Street or something.

Have to love Zach "fun size" Machovsky

 

[EYLive]

You guys remember that season of TUF when Brown's team would chant "Matt's gonna kill you!" during his fights? Or am I just imagining things?

 

[modogg]

I want hendricks to lose for no other reason than TEH BIGG RIGG is the worst nickname this side of "the muscle shark".

have to disagree. WHat is one of the recent TUF guys nickname, "25/7 Beastin'" or something. tried looking it up cause I couldn't remember but it is bad. here is an article from bleacherreport with some others: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1735471-the-25-worst-nicknames-in-mma-history/page/26

there are some good one's. I like Pedro "The Pedro" Octavio

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Corey-Anderson-171723

Corey "Beastin 25/8" Anderson. Fighting my friend in Newark in April.

yup, that one takes the cake I think.

 

[moleculo]

at our school, the tradition is you don't get to pick your nickname until you have a few fights under your belt, and our instructor is kind of a #### so he assigns names that he thinks are funny. Examples:

* "The Guy Who Still High Fives"

*"Pikachu" (she is a 110 lb Chinese girl fighter)

* "Happy Endings" ( the dude is Vietnamese)

* "C-Rex" - when she cuts weight, she turns into a giant c***, and so we started calling her C***asaurus Rex

actually, all of these names stuck and folks continue to fight with this. Pikachu even went as far as having shirts made for her up-coming fight.

 

[Possum]

"Fun Size" is a good one. Andre "Touchy" Fili and Dave "Pee Wee" Herman are pretty good too. On the serious side of nicknames I always liked "The Barn Cat" for Tamdan McCrory.

also, Nikita Krylov calling himself "The Al Capone" was pretty hilarious imo but it looks like he's not using that anymore

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Two favorites are still 'Filthy' Tom Lawlor and Jacob 'Christmas' Volkman.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbgXL6uwrYM

 

[SacramentoBob]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbgXL6uwrYM

@ GSP