ultimate boom or bust pick (1 Viewer)

[smoker]

Did not see much on the board regasrding MAroney.

If his shoulder is back and there are no health issue, I see this kid being a top 6 back.

Should have much more scoring oppoerunities that say Frank Gore, or maybe even LJ.

Any NE homers with rumblings regarding his health, or any other rb's that could be giving him a few plays off.

As i see it now, if he's healthy he's flying a bit under the radar, no?

any thoughts...

 

[identikit]

Did not see much on the board regasrding MAroney.

If his shoulder is back and there are no health issue, I see this kid being a top 6 back.

Should have much more scoring oppoerunities that say Frank Gore, or maybe even LJ.

Any NE homers with rumblings regarding his health, or any other rb's that could be giving him a few plays off.

As i see it now, if he's healthy he's flying a bit under the radar, no?

any thoughts...

He's far from under any radar...Id

 

[L-pipe]

I see this kid as being the new Fred Taylor. Awesome when he plays but in the shop just as much time. Better get Sammie Morris also if you have Maroney.

 

[-OZ-]

I see this kid as being the new Fred Taylor. Awesome when he plays but in the shop just as much time. Better get Sammie Morris also if you have Maroney.

That can't be right. I do kind of like Kevin Faulk still...

 

[benbadman]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=319183

That's the Maroney player spotlight thread. Last post says, "This guy might be the ultimate boom or bust candidate. I just don't know where to draft him. I probably won't unless he slips pretty far."

In other words, the Lamont Jordan of 2007 maybe?

 

[DreadedParms]

14 team league and we can keep one player from the previous year by giving up a pick two rounds higher than where we drafted them last year. I plan on keeping him and giving up a second round pick. If I pick in the top half of round one and therefore in the latter half of round two, it will feel like more value.

 

[softball]

Did not see much on the board regasrding MAroney.If his shoulder is back and there are no health issue, I see this kid being a top 6 back.Should have much more scoring oppoerunities that say Frank Gore, or maybe even LJ.Any NE homers with rumblings regarding his health, or any other rb's that could be giving him a few plays off.As i see it now, if he's healthy he's flying a bit under the radar, no?any thoughts...

The thoughts are probably right on the money with your thread title. He's Boom IF healthy or BUST if not. And as of right now there is enough evidence available, along with a currently reported shoulder injury to push him downward. As good as NE is, there is also he worry that the ball is just going to get put in more peoples hands, limiting Maroneys potential.I like him and would LOVE some good news on his shoulder. Once that comes I would bet we see many people push LM WAY up their draft board.

 

[Sea Bass]

What makes things even more frustrating with Maroney is that the Pat's will keep us in the dark each week concerning his health.

 

[Faust]

REHAB UPDATE: Second-year RB Laurence Maroney took the field during minicamp, but it was little more than a dog-and-pony show. Save for one set of agility drills, he was basically a spectator, clearly favoring his surgically repaired right shoulder by playing catch lefthanded and staying on the sidelines, away from the action. However, just seeing Maroney on the field was a positive sign. If there's a concern, it's that his conditioning and weight lifting regimens have been affected by the layoff. Still, all signs point to Maroney being ready to go come training camp in late July, and the Patriots have maintained all along that his injury would not impact his ability to open the season ready to go.

From the Sportingnews.com

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=221215

 

[doomsdaydoc]

this is going to be a very difficult situation. Bellechek (however you spell it) is notorious for giving misleading information (if any at all). We are often not going to know what is going on even right at gametime. Morris will be the backup on 1st and 2nd downs as well as in short yardage situations, while Faulk will be the 3rd down back. If Maroney were truly healthy and ready to go, he could be a stud (top 5) back. However, it may be better to take a safer early pick that has just a bit less upside and only take Maroney if he falls to 10 or later. The potential is unlimited, but the injury situation is way too unclear.

 

[Loomba]

People are just going to have to watch this one closely to see how his recovery goes. I don't like all the reports of him favoring the shoulder in mini-camps or at other events. There is no reason for him to exaggerate the injury in the offseason. Equally, I don't think there is anything for the Pats to gain by creating disinformation about the injury -- as opposed to during the season when it would make sense.

My read is that he has, or had, a pretty significant shoulder issue and we'll only know for sure once training camp begins as to whether he is healed or not.

Can someone remind me when he hurt the shoulder? What game was it and did he play subsequently? This injury seems to be lingering a lot longer than I would have expected.

 

[David Yudkin]

People are just going to have to watch this one closely to see how his recovery goes. I don't like all the reports of him favoring the shoulder in mini-camps or at other events. There is no reason for him to exaggerate the injury in the offseason. Equally, I don't think there is anything for the Pats to gain by creating disinformation about the injury -- as opposed to during the season when it would make sense.My read is that he has, or had, a pretty significant shoulder issue and we'll only know for sure once training camp begins as to whether he is healed or not.Can someone remind me when he hurt the shoulder? What game was it and did he play subsequently? This injury seems to be lingering a lot longer than I would have expected.

IIRC, Maroney suffered the shoulder injury in Week 13, but we should be looking to when he had his shoulder surgery as the point we measure from. I do not believe that it was ever reported when he actually had the surgery other than "in the offseason," making it harder to figure out when he "should" be expected to go full throttle. The surgery was first reported in the last few days of March, so there basically is a two month window when the surgery could have taken place.

 

[Bri]

He wasn't expected to be ready until training camp.

Morris is his backup not Faulk BUT Faulk will do his usual role which is a fill in and 3rd down back. Ya gotta think of how the Pats use their RBs for that to make any sense.

Maroney is a terrific prospect and I don't see how he's flying under any radar looking at his ADP.

 

[sholditch]

There are several boom/bust picks at RB this year but I don't think Maroney really fits since he typically goes somewhere around 10-16 overall. Here are my thoughts for the real boom/bust guys:

Edge: ADP 23 (RB 18) and one year and trade removed from being a perennial top-five back, o-line guru now in Zona, showed some real improvement at the end of the season

D-Will: ADP 33 (RB 23) Also showed some major potential towards the end and all reports out of Carolina indicate he will be the featured back

Caddy: ADP 31 (RB 21) Probably no less risky than the other two above but is falling like a stone through drafts because of his miserable season last year. The o-line has supposedly improved and having Garcia under center will help keep defenses back. Good candidate to get back over 1200 and 8 TDs.

Thomas Jones: ADP 26 (RB 19) will be working behind an improved line and has always shown productivity in both running and passing situations.

point being if you are taking what you feel is significant risk you could grab a sure-thing wideout in the second and hope for onee of these guys to fall in the third or fourth (I've been able to snag D-Will in the fifth and sometimes sixth rounds.)

 

[doomsdaydoc]

the only angle that the patriots may be working is trying to bargain with a free agent back or a trade, by making their need seem less.

 

[David Yudkin]

D-Will: ADP 33 (RB 23) Also showed some major potential towards the end and all reports out of Carolina indicate he will be the featured back

People keep saying this, but I would be leary as to how accurate this is. I've been in contact with people that cover the Panthers for a living and DeAngelo Williams HAS NOT been dubbed the starter. The scuttlebutt that I'm hearing is that the SPECULATION BY REPORTERS is at some point during the season he *MIGHT* take over as the starter. I see this one as RBBC, but if Williams is going to get drafted as the starter, I can't stop people from doing it.

 

[Sabertooth]

There are several boom/bust picks at RB this year but I don't think Maroney really fits since he typically goes somewhere around 10-16 overall. Here are my thoughts for the real boom/bust guys:

Edge: ADP 23 (RB 18) and one year and trade removed from being a perennial top-five back, o-line guru now in Zona, showed some real improvement at the end of the season

D-Will: ADP 33 (RB 23) Also showed some major potential towards the end and all reports out of Carolina indicate he will be the featured back

Caddy: ADP 31 (RB 21) Probably no less risky than the other two above but is falling like a stone through drafts because of his miserable season last year. The o-line has supposedly improved and having Garcia under center will help keep defenses back. Good candidate to get back over 1200 and 8 TDs.

Thomas Jones: ADP 26 (RB 19) will be working behind an improved line and has always shown productivity in both running and passing situations.

point being if you are taking what you feel is significant risk you could grab a sure-thing wideout in the second and hope for onee of these guys to fall in the third or fourth (I've been able to snag D-Will in the fifth and sometimes sixth rounds.)

This is a good list. I like Edge and Jones most of all on it.

 

[Dhizz]

D-Will: ADP 33 (RB 23) Also showed some major potential towards the end and all reports out of Carolina indicate he will be the featured back

People keep saying this, but I would be leary as to how accurate this is. I've been in contact with people that cover the Panthers for a living and DeAngelo Williams HAS NOT been dubbed the starter. The scuttlebutt that I'm hearing is that the SPECULATION BY REPORTERS is at some point during the season he *MIGHT* take over as the starter. I see this one as RBBC, but if Williams is going to get drafted as the starter, I can't stop people from doing it.

 

[sholditch]

D-Will: ADP 33 (RB 23) Also showed some major potential towards the end and all reports out of Carolina indicate he will be the featured back

People keep saying this, but I would be leary as to how accurate this is. I've been in contact with people that cover the Panthers for a living and DeAngelo Williams HAS NOT been dubbed the starter. The scuttlebutt that I'm hearing is that the SPECULATION BY REPORTERS is at some point during the season he *MIGHT* take over as the starter. I see this one as RBBC, but if Williams is going to get drafted as the starter, I can't stop people from doing it.

Interesting. I heard some interviews with some of the players on the NFL network, I wanna say the guy was either o or d-line, and they said that DeAngelo was going to be "the guy" running the ball and that they were really excited about what he could do carrying a full load, which is where I got that. I think we won't really know until the season starts, but I'll be monitoring the Carolina backfield closer than any other this offseason.

 

[wadegarrett]

Maroney will be a MONSTER this year. Book it.

 

[Sputnikv8]

Maroney will be a MONSTER this year. Book it.

Well, there we have it! Its settled! I'm a bit nervous about the guy. I fell into the Fragile Fred trap early in his career and its a frustrating thing. I got Laurence fairly cheap last year and plan on keeping him. I'm hoping he can be a strong RB2, but, frankly -- I'm penciling him in as a flex player.Bring on the "QUESTIONABLE" injury reports!

 

[PatsWillWin]

Jeez talk about people being forever scarred about Fred Taylor.

Guy got hurt. Okay. Why does that automatically mean he's Fred Taylor?

"Inury Prone" is the most overused phrase in fantasy football.

 

[LawFitz]

Jeez talk about people being forever scarred about Fred Taylor.Guy got hurt. Okay. Why does that automatically mean he's Fred Taylor?"Inury Prone" is the most overused phrase in fantasy football.

Maroney was always nicked up in college too.Dude is uber-talented, but FRAGILE.Buyer beware!

 

[Sputnikv8]

Jeez talk about people being forever scarred about Fred Taylor.Guy got hurt. Okay. Why does that automatically mean he's Fred Taylor?"Inury Prone" is the most overused phrase in fantasy football.

Actually, I think the most overused phrase is "and its not even close"and its ... nah, that's too easy. We have a very small dataset of Maroney's NFL injuries. If you wait until you have a large enough dataset before you call a guy injury-prone, you're team is sunk. Freddie cost many teams early in his career and that'll make us gun shy if we see something even remotely similar.

 

[erymer]

What makes things even more frustrating with Maroney is that the Pat's will keep us in the dark each week concerning his health.

this is the part that bothers me. Players get hurt and that's part of the job, but with NE we will never know just how bad it is until the offenses first possesion. I love Maroney and think his potential is unlimited in NE, but it's the injury status or lack of information that I worry about.

 

[sholditch]

He usually goes before Ronnie Brown, who seems like a safer if less sexy pick. I think Ronnie could have a good year with Trent under center.

 

[TLEF316]

im not a big maroney fan at all. Every time i watched him in college, some 175 lb cornerback was bringing him down behind the LOS. Obviously, i was surprised at how well he played last year.

As far as him being injury prone, its still too early to tell. That being said, im not giving him the benefit of the doubt, and im about 97% sure he wont be on any of my teams

 

[Keith Lewis]

D-Will: ADP 33 (RB 23) Also showed some major potential towards the end and all reports out of Carolina indicate he will be the featured back

Got a link to those reports, guess I missed all of them.

 

[Keith Lewis]

He usually goes before Ronnie Brown, who seems like a safer if less sexy pick. I think Ronnie could have a good year with Trent under center.

900 yards and 5 TDs isn't really even startable.

 

[Phlash]

I'm worried about Maroney this year... as a Patriots fan, I didn't like the dropped production in the second half of the year one bit. I mean, when healthy he was a man among boys on the field, but if he doesn't have his stiff arm he loses a large part of his game imo.