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So who do you like in the under the radar TEs that might blossom into a solid TE1 this year (I am talking PPR leagues).....

3 people I have my eyes on are:

- Owen Daniels (he did well last year and he should be the #2 pass catching option for Schaub).

- Tony Sheffler (see his stats the last month of the year.....Cutler seems to love him and they do not really have a #2 WR either making him very attractive.....lots of play action possibility at goal line due to the rushing abilities of Denver)

- Marcus Pollard - he is going to be Seattle's #1 TE with Stevens not there anymore and with Darrell Jackson gone, their WRs are suspect despite the love for Hackett and Branch)

Thoughts on above? Anyone else?

Stats for reference:

Tony Scheffler in the last 4 games of the year under Cutler:

vs SD: 5 targets; 3 receptions 66 yds; 2 TDs

vs AZ: 4 targets; 3 receptions; 58 yards; 0 TDs

vs CIN: 3 targets; 2 receptions; 26 yds; 1 TD

vs SF: 4 targets; 3 receptions; 54 yards; 1 TD

Owen Daniels last year had:

51 targets; 34 catches; 352 yds; 5 TDs

 
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I think a deep sleeper could be Shiancoe of Minnesota. He always did well backing up Shockey in NY and could be a nice safety valve for the QB.

Edit to add:

I have always liked Pollard and he could surprise there.

The injury to Scheffler and the presence of Dan Graham scare me in Denver.

Owen Daniels is a nice TE to target after the big ones are gone.

 
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Winning IS Everything said:
I think a deep sleeper could be Shiancoe of Minnesota. He always did well backing up Shockey in NY and could be a nice safety valve for the QB.Edit to add:I have always liked Pollard and he could surprise there.The injury to Scheffler and the presence of Dan Graham scare me in Denver.Owen Daniels is a nice TE to target after the big ones are gone.
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Dan Graham seems to be the blocking TE in that O just like he was with the Pats.....
 
Sweetness_34 said:
So who do you like in the under the radar TEs that might blossom into a solid TE1 this year (I am talking PPR leagues).....

3 people I have my eyes on are:

- Owen Daniels (he did well last year and he should be the #2 pass catching option for Schaub).

- Tony Sheffler (see his stats the last month of the year.....Cutler seems to love him and they do not really have a #2 WR either making him very attractive.....lots of play action possibility at goal line due to the rushing abilities of Denver)

- Marcus Pollard - he is going to be Seattle's #1 TE with Stevens not there anymore and with Darrell Jackson gone, their WRs are suspect despite the love for Hackett and Branch)

Thoughts on above? Anyone else?

Stats for reference:

Tony Scheffler in the last 4 games of the year under Cutler:

vs SD: 5 targets; 3 receptions 66 yds; 2 TDs

vs AZ: 4 targets; 3 receptions; 58 yards; 0 TDs

vs CIN: 3 targets; 2 receptions; 26 yds; 1 TD

vs SF: 4 targets; 3 receptions; 54 yards; 1 TD

Owen Daniels last year had:

51 targets; 34 catches; 352 yds; 5 TDs
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Prior Discussion
 
Don't know much about him, but I've seen David Martin in Miami touted as a sleeper. The addition of Trent Green certainly can't hurt his value.

 
Shiancoe is definitely a breakout candidate.

Wesley Walls was barely used when he was with SF(behind Brent Jones) and was a star and his numbers jumped when he went to New Orleans/Carolina.

I also like whoever will be the receiving TE for Carolina whether that's Gaines or King.

 
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happy_donut said:
Don't know much about him, but I've seen David Martin in Miami touted as a sleeper. The addition of Trent Green certainly can't hurt his value.
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He's a large WR they converted to a pass catching TE. In Green bay he was hurt too often to be reliable.They seem to be happy with Eric Johnson in New Orleans, but can he stay healthy?
 
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Daniels - Yes

Scheffler - No. Cutler may have clicked with him last year, but who's to say he won't click with Graham this year?

Pollard - No way. Can anyone name a TE who suddenly became much more productive at age 35?

 
Sweetness_34 said:
So who do you like in the under the radar TEs that might blossom into a solid TE1 this year (I am talking PPR leagues).....

3 people I have my eyes on are:

- Owen Daniels (he did well last year and he should be the #2 pass catching option for Schaub).

- Tony Sheffler (see his stats the last month of the year.....Cutler seems to love him and they do not really have a #2 WR either making him very attractive.....lots of play action possibility at goal line due to the rushing abilities of Denver)

- Marcus Pollard - he is going to be Seattle's #1 TE with Stevens not there anymore and with Darrell Jackson gone, their WRs are suspect despite the love for Hackett and Branch)

Thoughts on above? Anyone else?

Stats for reference:

Tony Scheffler in the last 4 games of the year under Cutler:

vs SD: 5 targets; 3 receptions 66 yds; 2 TDs

vs AZ: 4 targets; 3 receptions; 58 yards; 0 TDs

vs CIN: 3 targets; 2 receptions; 26 yds; 1 TD

vs SF: 4 targets; 3 receptions; 54 yards; 1 TD

Owen Daniels last year had:

51 targets; 34 catches; 352 yds; 5 TDs
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I dunno.every year people pimp out the TE from Denver as the Sleeper TE DuJour, and every year those who fall for it,get burned. I'm once bitten,twice shy with that theory of the Denver TE rankings..

One guy who is definitely under the radar, is Witten. The guy is ranked anywhere from 8th-12th in most if not all fantasy mags and websites! WAY too low , imo..

 
Miller to catch sixty balls?

Zach Miller - TE - OAK - Jul. 22 - 8:01 pm et

The Oakland Tribune believes that Raiders TE Zach Miller would "seem a lock for 50 or more" catches if he can play in all 16 games.

It'd be one of the best rookie tight end performances in history. Miller is expected to start but isn't a great bet to catch more than 35 balls on a poor passing offense. He's also unlikely to be a seam stretcher right away. Jul. 22 - 8:01 pm et

Source: Oakland Tribune

:lmao:

 
nygiants56 said:
One guy who is definitely under the radar, is Witten. The guy is ranked anywhere from 8th-12th in most if not all fantasy mags and websites! WAY too low , imo..
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:useless: Maybe not the true definition of "under the radar", but he is certainly the forgotten man in the tier of Top TEs Not Named Gates. He'll have a full season with Romo, who actually looked his way last year, unlike Bledsoe. Also, he'll definitely get more than 1 TD this year.
 
Ted Lange as your Bartender said:
nygiants56 said:
One guy who is definitely under the radar, is Witten. The guy is ranked anywhere from 8th-12th in most if not all fantasy mags and websites! WAY too low , imo..
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:useless: Maybe not the true definition of "under the radar", but he is certainly the forgotten man in the tier of Top TEs Not Named Gates. He'll have a full season with Romo, who actually looked his way last year, unlike Bledsoe. Also, he'll definitely get more than 1 TD this year.
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Sure is and I like him this year. I've seen him go in the 8th to 11th rounds.
 
BustedKnuckles said:
Miller to catch sixty balls?

Zach Miller - TE - OAK - Jul. 22 - 8:01 pm et

The Oakland Tribune believes that Raiders TE Zach Miller would "seem a lock for 50 or more" catches if he can play in all 16 games.

It'd be one of the best rookie tight end performances in history. Miller is expected to start but isn't a great bet to catch more than 35 balls on a poor passing offense. He's also unlikely to be a seam stretcher right away. Jul. 22 - 8:01 pm et

Source: Oakland Tribune

:useless:
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Some writers throw out these nice round numbers without having any idea how out of context those numbers are in terms of historical norms. And to go even further and call it a lock. Just sad.Rookie TEs, even the ones who turn out to be stars, generally have pretty meager numbers. Add to that, he's on the Raiders who won't have a huge number of receptions, and that there are 2-4 WRs who will be getting a good share of balls, and the RB is supposed to be more involved again this year in the passing game, and that Miller will be sharing time at TE with Courtney Anderson and/or Randal Williams... I'll give him 15-30 catches in his rookie year, not 50+. If he exceeds 30 it'll be a very successful year for him.

 
Chris Baker.

Improving numbers. Nose for the end zone. Accurate QB.

Certainly not top tier upside, but you could do much worse for your TE2.

Love the Thomas pick also.

 
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I know this isn't going to help the discussion, but I honestly feel this isn't the year to go bargan hunting at TE. I count 8 legit TE this year. I won't be reaching for 1-2-3-4, but I will make sure I end up with one of 5-6-7-8.

 
I'm a huge Owen Daniels fan. Not only did he play phenomenally on a per-play basis at a position where rookies have historically struggled, but he's playing for a coach who has traditionally featured the TE prominently in his offenses, and he's playing for a team with pretty much one other viable receiving option.

 
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SSOG said:
I'm a huge Owen Daniels fan. Not only did he play phenomenally on a per-play basis at a position where rookies have historically struggled, but he's playing for a coach who has traditionally featured the TE prominently in his offenses, and he's playing for a team with pretty much one other viable receiving option.
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Not sure about the per play stuff when ya break down "receiving TEs" and "blocking TEs" but I like him too. What I don't like is how alot of his #s came in garbage time. Matter of fact we're probably about to bring up a similar point on players in a few weeks, as happens every preseason. Otherwise, I really like him for the future and have him in dynasty leagues
 
Desmond Clark

He seems to be totally off everyone's radar this offseason, what with the Bears drafting Owens. Look at his numbers from last year, allbeit a career year. He represents great value if you don't take a b/u TE till really late. He will still be starting.

 
ahill84006 said:
Bo Scaife in TEN. He and Young had good chemistry at Texas, and was starting to last year w/ the Titans too.........
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Ben TroupeBo Scaife

Ben Troupe

Bo Scaife

Ben Troupe

Bo Scaife

Ben Troupe

Bo Scaife

Ben Troupe

Bo Scaife

AARGGHHH!!! :own3d:

Seriously, one of these TEs could be in the top 10. But which? Troupe has top 5 potential, Scaife plays well with VY. :bs:

 
msommer said:
I think Scaife will be the guy. But that is just a gut feeling.
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Here's a telling stat:VY started from Week 4 on.

Scaife and Troupe played together from Weeks 4 - 11. (Troupe got hurt after that).

Including a bye, that is 7 games they both took the field.

TE Targets in TEN



Scaife had more targets than Troupe in every week they both played but two, when they were tied.

Only Troupe's two TDs made it close.

Scaife 13-179-0

Troupe 10-86-2

Weeks 4-11.

Yeah, I'm leaning Scaife.

 
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Jeff Pasquino said:
msommer said:
I think Scaife will be the guy. But that is just a gut feeling.
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Here's a telling stat:VY started from Week 4 on.

Scaife and Troupe played together from Weeks 4 - 11. (Troupe got hurt after that).

Including a bye, that is 7 games they both took the field.

TE Targets in TEN



Scaife had more targets than Troupe in every week they both played but two, when they were tied.

Only Troupe's two TDs made it close.

Scaife 13-179-0

Troupe 10-86-2

Weeks 4-11.

Yeah, I'm leaning Scaife.
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maybe but even if you double his numbers or add em both they're still not top 12(12 teams in FF league) so.....
 
Bri said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
msommer said:
I think Scaife will be the guy. But that is just a gut feeling.
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Here's a telling stat:VY started from Week 4 on.

Scaife and Troupe played together from Weeks 4 - 11. (Troupe got hurt after that).

Including a bye, that is 7 games they both took the field.

TE Targets in TEN



Scaife had more targets than Troupe in every week they both played but two, when they were tied.

Only Troupe's two TDs made it close.

Scaife 13-179-0

Troupe 10-86-2

Weeks 4-11.

Yeah, I'm leaning Scaife.
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maybe but even if you double his numbers or add em both they're still not top 12(12 teams in FF league) so.....
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That's only 7 weeks of stats. Over 16 games, that's 48/608/4.5 Roughly the same stats as Desmond Clark, the #10 TE last year. Now, I figure Bennett, Henry, and Wade are gone, so there's more receptions to the TEs (unless you see the WR group stepping up).
 
I still like the chances of Marcedes Lewis to be a very good TE for Jacksonville. It seems like may are forgetting about him after a so so rookie year. The fact that they brought in Wiggins does worry me a little, but I will take a chance on Lewis this year. I don't see them giving up on a 1st rounder this early.

 
-OZ- said:
Bri said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
msommer said:
I think Scaife will be the guy. But that is just a gut feeling.
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Here's a telling stat:VY started from Week 4 on.

Scaife and Troupe played together from Weeks 4 - 11. (Troupe got hurt after that).

Including a bye, that is 7 games they both took the field.

TE Targets in TEN



Scaife had more targets than Troupe in every week they both played but two, when they were tied.

Only Troupe's two TDs made it close.

Scaife 13-179-0

Troupe 10-86-2

Weeks 4-11.

Yeah, I'm leaning Scaife.
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maybe but even if you double his numbers or add em both they're still not top 12(12 teams in FF league) so.....
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That's only 7 weeks of stats. Over 16 games, that's 48/608/4.5 Roughly the same stats as Desmond Clark, the #10 TE last year. Now, I figure Bennett, Henry, and Wade are gone, so there's more receptions to the TEs (unless you see the WR group stepping up).
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Your math is off, I think. I'm figuring 26-358 (7*2) plus 2 more games did I miss something?Not so sure about their WRs but as a group I think their big play potential increased. Whether that matters or not for Vince, it should help the TE some as I felt their passing game(and O in general) was too tight and not all that exciting last year. Spreading the field is probably step 1 in fixing that, right?

 
Bri said:
-OZ- said:
Bri said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
msommer said:
I think Scaife will be the guy. But that is just a gut feeling.
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Here's a telling stat:VY started from Week 4 on.

Scaife and Troupe played together from Weeks 4 - 11. (Troupe got hurt after that).

Including a bye, that is 7 games they both took the field.

TE Targets in TEN



Scaife had more targets than Troupe in every week they both played but two, when they were tied.

Only Troupe's two TDs made it close.

Scaife 13-179-0

Troupe 10-86-2

Weeks 4-11.

Yeah, I'm leaning Scaife.
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maybe but even if you double his numbers or add em both they're still not top 12(12 teams in FF league) so.....
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That's only 7 weeks of stats. Over 16 games, that's 48/608/4.5 Roughly the same stats as Desmond Clark, the #10 TE last year. Now, I figure Bennett, Henry, and Wade are gone, so there's more receptions to the TEs (unless you see the WR group stepping up).
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Your math is off, I think. I'm figuring 26-358 (7*2) plus 2 more games did I miss something?Not so sure about their WRs but as a group I think their big play potential increased. Whether that matters or not for Vince, it should help the TE some as I felt their passing game(and O in general) was too tight and not all that exciting last year. Spreading the field is probably step 1 in fixing that, right?
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I'm talking about their stats together. 23/7 = 3.286 * 16 = 52.6 (I rounded to 3 rec per game which made 48)

265/7 = 37.86 * 16 = 605.7 (I rounded to 38 yards per game which made 608)

2/7 = .286 * 16 = 4.57

Yes, I realize this is not the best way to project stats. A big part of my projection here is that I watched a lot of Titans games the last couple years. Troupe did not seem to be the same player last year as he was in 2005. I'm thinking (hoping?) he reverts to his 2005 form. Maybe he won't, but as I'm saying, the potential is there for him to be very good. Albeit, there's a lot of risk too.

 
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1. Shiancoe - MIN - I thought he did well with limited opportunity. Hes got the physical skills for sure its just a matter of targets, health and learning the playbook.

2. Kevin Everett - BUF - Banged up his senior year at Miami , Torn ACL 1st mini-camp with the Bills , an not much of an excuse for last year. He got the physical skill set as well however injuries seem to be a theme with Everett. Robert Royal is'nt known as being a consistent receiving threat and is a run of the mill all around TE. Everett is the Boom or Bust pick for the Bills TE spot.

3. Daunte Rosario - R - CAR - The little HL film I did see of him, he looked fairly athletic, caught the ball well and had a move or two in him. He has close to no competition and I think the TE position in Carolina would see more targets if they found there guy.Why they haven't reached for a solid prospect in 3-4 years is beyond me. Gaines and King have proven to be ineffective thus far, Gaines is 280ilbs and King is a very slow TE with solid hands that doesn't translate to the NFL. Already signed and ready to go for camp.

 
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jeter23 said:
I still like the chances of Marcedes Lewis to be a very good TE for Jacksonville. It seems like may are forgetting about him after a so so rookie year. The fact that they brought in Wiggins does worry me a little, but I will take a chance on Lewis this year. I don't see them giving up on a 1st rounder this early.
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I'm on board with this one. High pick, good pedigree, but weak rookie year puts him under the radar. Cloudy WR situation and a new OC could mean fresh look at Lewis as a significant participant in the passing game. And, TEs usually have a pretty good jump from their 1st to 2nd year stats if they are going to be fantasy contributors. If available, I'd take a shot with him for upside.
 
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Couch Potato said:
jeter23 said:
I still like the chances of Marcedes Lewis to be a very good TE for Jacksonville. It seems like may are forgetting about him after a so so rookie year. The fact that they brought in Wiggins does worry me a little, but I will take a chance on Lewis this year. I don't see them giving up on a 1st rounder this early.
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I'm on board with this one. High pick, good pedigree, but weak rookie year puts him under the radar. Cloudy WR situation and a new OC could mean fresh look at Lewis as a significant participant in the passing game. And, TEs usually have a pretty good jump from their 1st to 2nd year stats if they are going to be fantasy contributors. If available, I'd take a shot with him for upside.
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Lewis is also my sleeper candidate. A high ankle sprain in TC last year set him back, and then when he returned, he was held in to block often. The addition of Wiggins may actually help Lewis become more involved in the passing attack. I could be wrong, but that's what makes a sleeper a sleeper... a player who outperforms his ADP by a large margin.
 
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