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Underrated players in NFL history (1 Viewer)

Slightly off topic: Time for a poll.

Which of these O-lineman had the biggest ###?

a) House Ballard

b) Tootie Robbins

c) Nate Newton

;)

 
Bo Jackson. Could of been best ever if not injured.
If anything, he was overrated. Yes, he was dynamic for a spell, but he was basically a part-time RB (averaging 13.5 carries per game). And he only scored 18 TDs in 38 NFL games. And had zero 1,000 yards seasons. In fact, if you take his yards per game and average it out over a whole season, it would come to 1,171 rushing yards and 8 TDs. That is good, but not great. Overrated.
 
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Bo Jackson. Could of been best ever if not injured.
If anything, he was overrated. Yes, he was dynamic for a spell, but he was basically a part-time RB (averaging 13.5 carries per game). And he only scored 18 TDs in 38 NFL games. And had zero 1,000 yards seasons. Overrated.
:yes: He could've gotten 30 carries a game if there wasn't that little matter of a Hall-of-Fame RB sharing the same backfield.Bo averaged 5.4 YPC. What more did anyone want?
 
Bo Jackson. Could of been best ever if not injured.
If anything, he was overrated. Yes, he was dynamic for a spell, but he was basically a part-time RB (averaging 13.5 carries per game). And he only scored 18 TDs in 38 NFL games. And had zero 1,000 yards seasons. Overrated.
:yes: He could've gotten 30 carries a game if there wasn't that little matter of a Hall-of-Fame RB sharing the same backfield.Bo averaged 5.4 YPC. What more did anyone want?
Okay, but he was still ultimately a part-time player. We have no idea how good or effective he would have been, had he ever been a featured back who touched the ball 25 times a game. We just don't know. We can speculate all we want, but we just don't know. However, people talk like he was one of the best RBs ever, but considering that he was basically a part-time player for four years, that makes him overrated. I am not saying he didn't have the potential to be a great one. He did. But he never came close to fulfilling it. Do you disagree?Also, Marcus Allen wasn't exactly setting the world on fire from 1987 to 1990.
 
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I am not saying he didn't have the potential to be a great one. He did. But he never came close to fulfilling it. Do you disagree?
Of course I agree, but it was obviously due to the injury.
Of course. I don't think anyone would argue with that. But, given the glowing terms some talk about him in despite the fact that he really was no more than a part-time player in his time in the NFL, you still wouldn't agree that many overrate him?
 
These have been mentioned, but I'll say their name again:

Fred Taylor

Sterling Sharpe

Jimmy Smith

Also:

Chad Pennington

Herman Moore

 
Here's three overlooked and underrated 70's receivers: Harold Jackson, Harold Carmichael and Cliff Branch. Their numbers don't look that great today because they played in the dead-ball seventies but I believe all three are Hall-of-Fame worthy. Jackson was a tremendous deep threat who played with horrible QB's almost his entire career. To me he was a much more impressive player than Charlie Joiner. Carmichael was an unstoppable force in the end zone. And from 1974-1976, Branch was as dominant relative to the rest of league as Rice was at his (much-longer) peak.

I also want to throw out Bart Starr's name here. I know he's a Hall of Famer and the QB of one of the most famous dynasties in sports history. But he's still kind of underrated because his name never seems to come up in Greatest QB Ever debates though he has an excellent case. And it can't just be because most people, including myself, never saw him play since the name of his great contemporary, Johnny Unitas, does come up quite frequently.

 
My picks are:

Dan Fouts

Art Monk (but the HOF induction ceremony this past year, finally gave him the recognition he's always deserved...that was a wonderful moment)

Steve Young

Warren Moon (best Black QB ever (and the 1st) but actually was one of the best QB's ever without even playing the race card. Not many people talk about Moon because he never had a surrounding cast particularly at RB or defense to get him to the Superbowl (the run and shoot offense didn't help the defense out much either).

Steve McNair - His Superbowl performance against the Rams was absoletly stellar...just came up 1 yd short so he's flow under the radar ever since. Amazing how 1 yd difference can drastically change all historical perspective about a player and team.

Also I'm on board with other posters past picks as follows:

Jimmy and Rod Smith

Carnell Lake

 
My picks are:Dan FoutsArt Monk (but the HOF induction ceremony this past year, finally gave him the recognition he's always deserved...that was a wonderful moment)Steve YoungWarren Moon (best Black QB ever (and the 1st) but actually was one of the best QB's ever without even playing the race card. Not many people talk about Moon because he never had a surrounding cast particularly at RB or defense to get him to the Superbowl (the run and shoot offense didn't help the defense out much either). Steve McNair - His Superbowl performance against the Rams was absoletly stellar...just came up 1 yd short so he's flow under the radar ever since. Amazing how 1 yd difference can drastically change all historical perspective about a player and team.Also I'm on board with other posters past picks as follows:Jimmy and Rod SmithCarnell Lake
Fouts, Monk, and Young are HOFers . . . how underrated could they be?
 
Joe Washington

"Washington's most memorable performance was in the September 18 Monday Night Football game between the Colts and the Patriots, which featured a record 41 points scored between the two teams in the fourth quarter, 27 by the Colts. Washington scored or helping score his teams' final three touchdowns. His catch of a touchdown pass tied the game at 20-20, and then he threw an option pass to Roger Carr to put the Colts ahead 27-20. After the Patriots tied it late, Washington returned the ensuing kickoff 96 yards for the winning touchdown."

Yeah, I know he probably doesn't belong on the list , but I will never forget that 1978 game; my brother and I drove to Maine to watch it since it was blacked out in the Boston area. Note: 950+ rushing yards and 1,300+ yards from scrimmage that year, yet he didn't have a single rushing td all year.
I saw that game, and I've made serveral references to it here at FBGs under alias JohnnyU. IMO that was the single best individual performance on MNF ever. Thanks for posting this. I can never get enough of that memory.ETA: It had been raining, so the field was wet, and I believe NE had that hard artificial turf at the time.
Well, I will also always remember the long ride home :goodposting: Yes it was raining and for a bit more nostalgia, I believe it is considered one of the best MNF games ever and also somewhat infamous as the game where Howard Cosell got into trouble for referring to Joe Washington as a "little monkey"; even though it was a totally innocent remark and clearly meant as a compliment.
I also remember that game well. POURING rain, indeed. I lived only 25 minutes from the stadium.BTW, the "little monkey" comment which got Cosell into hot water was in reference to Alvin Garrett of the Skins, I believe.
Hmmmmmmmmm.......... I always thought Howard Cosell's "little monkey" comment was made in reference to Mercury Morris of the Miami Dolphins during one of his 90+ yard TD kickoff returns in the very early 70's.
 
Simon Fletcher- OLB, Broncos

Had a 6 season span from 1988-1993 where he played all 96 games and averaged:

101 tackles, 12.5 sacks, 3 FF, 1 FR

And he never made a pro bowl.

 
Joe Washington

"Washington's most memorable performance was in the September 18 Monday Night Football game between the Colts and the Patriots, which featured a record 41 points scored between the two teams in the fourth quarter, 27 by the Colts. Washington scored or helping score his teams' final three touchdowns. His catch of a touchdown pass tied the game at 20-20, and then he threw an option pass to Roger Carr to put the Colts ahead 27-20. After the Patriots tied it late, Washington returned the ensuing kickoff 96 yards for the winning touchdown."

Yeah, I know he probably doesn't belong on the list , but I will never forget that 1978 game; my brother and I drove to Maine to watch it since it was blacked out in the Boston area. Note: 950+ rushing yards and 1,300+ yards from scrimmage that year, yet he didn't have a single rushing td all year.
I saw that game, and I've made serveral references to it here at FBGs under alias JohnnyU. IMO that was the single best individual performance on MNF ever. Thanks for posting this. I can never get enough of that memory.ETA: It had been raining, so the field was wet, and I believe NE had that hard artificial turf at the time.
Well, I will also always remember the long ride home :goodposting: Yes it was raining and for a bit more nostalgia, I believe it is considered one of the best MNF games ever and also somewhat infamous as the game where Howard Cosell got into trouble for referring to Joe Washington as a "little monkey"; even though it was a totally innocent remark and clearly meant as a compliment.
I also remember that game well. POURING rain, indeed. I lived only 25 minutes from the stadium.BTW, the "little monkey" comment which got Cosell into hot water was in reference to Alvin Garrett of the Skins, I believe.
Hmmmmmmmmm.......... I always thought Howard Cosell's "little monkey" comment was made in reference to Mercury Morris of the Miami Dolphins during one of his 90+ yard TD kickoff returns in the very early 70's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVScwog05Xw :shrug:

 
Joe Washington

"Washington's most memorable performance was in the September 18 Monday Night Football game between the Colts and the Patriots, which featured a record 41 points scored between the two teams in the fourth quarter, 27 by the Colts. Washington scored or helping score his teams' final three touchdowns. His catch of a touchdown pass tied the game at 20-20, and then he threw an option pass to Roger Carr to put the Colts ahead 27-20. After the Patriots tied it late, Washington returned the ensuing kickoff 96 yards for the winning touchdown."

Yeah, I know he probably doesn't belong on the list , but I will never forget that 1978 game; my brother and I drove to Maine to watch it since it was blacked out in the Boston area. Note: 950+ rushing yards and 1,300+ yards from scrimmage that year, yet he didn't have a single rushing td all year.
I saw that game, and I've made serveral references to it here at FBGs under alias JohnnyU. IMO that was the single best individual performance on MNF ever. Thanks for posting this. I can never get enough of that memory.ETA: It had been raining, so the field was wet, and I believe NE had that hard artificial turf at the time.
Well, I will also always remember the long ride home :goodposting: Yes it was raining and for a bit more nostalgia, I believe it is considered one of the best MNF games ever and also somewhat infamous as the game where Howard Cosell got into trouble for referring to Joe Washington as a "little monkey"; even though it was a totally innocent remark and clearly meant as a compliment.
I also remember that game well. POURING rain, indeed. I lived only 25 minutes from the stadium.BTW, the "little monkey" comment which got Cosell into hot water was in reference to Alvin Garrett of the Skins, I believe.
Hmmmmmmmmm.......... I always thought Howard Cosell's "little monkey" comment was made in reference to Mercury Morris of the Miami Dolphins during one of his 90+ yard TD kickoff returns in the very early 70's.
Here's what's awesome about the innerwebs these days - you not only can research the answer to questions like these, you can actually view the clip where Cosell calls Alvin Garrett a little monkey.
 
Bo Jackson. Could of been best ever if not injured.
:goodposting: Some people argue this point, and it boggles my mind. And it's not just because he was a Raider.

If he played football and only football, he could have been better than Jim Brown. Not a doubt about it.
What does, "if he played football and only football" have to do with anything? He injured his hip playing footabll that ended his career. He was actually able to play baseball before and after his injury, but to a lesser degree afterwards. Yes, IMO he could have been the greatest ever, but not for the reason you mentioned.
Not only is there much doubt about it, Bo Jackson would NOT have been Jim Brown.
Yeah, I must have been high when I posted this. My apologies to the Great Jim Brown. No disrespect intended.
 
Gary Clark - WR - Washington Redskins

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Clark

Clark retired from the NFL after the 1995 season. In his 11 NFL seasons, he caught 699 passes for 10,856 yards and 65 touchdowns, while rushing for 54 yards and gaining 62 yards on nine punt returns. He also had twenty-seven 100-yard games wearing the Redskins uniform. Clark was a four-time Pro Bowl selection in 1986, 1987, 1990, and 1991. He was also a three-time All-Pro selection. He led his team in receiving seven times (1986, 1987, 1989–1992, 1994), and won two Super Bowls, Super Bowl XXII and Super Bowl XXVI, during his NFL career.

Clark was the first receiver in NFL history to catch at least 50 passes in his first ten NFL seasons.

 
Clyde Simmons - 121.5 career sacks but always in the shadow of Reggie White and Jerome Brown

Charles Mann - He was overshadowed by Dexter Manley back in the 80's but he was a terror in his own right. Made four pro bowls but few talk about him today.

Marc Bulger - His arm was shot by the end of his career but in his prime he had a lightning quick release and unmatched accuracy. Injuries and the ghost of Kurt Warner made people appreciate him less than he deserved. He averaged at least 250 yards per game for 5 straight years (thats 4000 over 16 games) but just couldnt stay on the field.

 
How about Isaac Bruce?Averaging 1,000 yards receiving per season over a 14 year career with 90 touchdowns.All while missing 4 or more games 4 different seasons.Now he made the Pro Bowl 4 times... but how does he NOT make the Pro Bowl in 1995?119 catches, 1781 yards and 13 touchdowns? That's sick.Always thought he was overshadowed by Torry Holt throughout much of his career.Here we are in 2008, playing for a new team with an unsettled QB situation at best...and at age 36.... he' sitting on 6 touchdowns, and almost 700 yards through 12 games.
man '95 was a sick year for receivers in the NFC. Cris Carter 122 - 1,371 - 17. Rice 122-1,848-15. Herman Moore - 123-1686 -14. Irving 111 - 1603 - 10. top 2 single season yardage totals of all time, 3 out of top 6, and 4 out of top 11 from the same year. Also 4 of the top 7 reception seasons ever.
 
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