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I didn't want to clutter up the other thread that focuses on the actual shooting in Knoxville so I'm starting this thread to ask --

People in the other thread said that many Unitarian churches are made up of agnostics/atheists. I don't get it. If anyone is a member of a Unitarian church or just understands more -- why would an agnostic or atheist attend a church? Even a Unitarian one.

 
I didn't want to clutter up the other thread that focuses on the actual shooting in Knoxville so I'm starting this thread to ask --People in the other thread said that many Unitarian churches are made up of agnostics/atheists. I don't get it. If anyone is a member of a Unitarian church or just understands more -- why would an agnostic or atheist attend a church? Even a Unitarian one.
Some like the feeling of being part of a community, meet like minded people and other reasons. The same reason people join anything.
 
But wouldn't that be an annoying community to belong to if you are an atheist? Why would you subject yourself to a religious service when you believe all these people around you are praying/worshipping a fairy tale? Wouldn't you think those people are idiots?

 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Church

Unitarianism is the belief in the single personality of God, in contrast to the doctrine of the Trinity (three persons in one God).[1] It is the philosophy upon which the modern Unitarian movement was based, and, according to its proponents, is the original form of Christianity. Unitarian Christians believe in the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, as found in the New Testament and other early Christian writings, and hold him up as an exemplar. Adhering to strict monotheism, they maintain that Jesus was a great man and a prophet of God, perhaps even a supernatural being, but not God himself. Unitarians believe in the moral authority, but not necessarily the divinity, of Jesus. They do not pray to Jesus. Their theology is thus distinguishable from the theology of Catholic, Orthodox, mainline Protestant, and other Christian denominations, who hold the Trinity doctrine as a core belief.

Nothing about agnostics or atheists that I can see. They simply do not believe Jesus is God, simply an example of God's teachings. However, if Jesus was not who he said He is, that would make Him a liar, and thus not a good person to follow. This is the main issue I have with their beliefs, but in no way would I wish anything like what happened on Sunday upon them.

 
But wouldn't that be an annoying community to belong to if you are an atheist? Why would you subject yourself to a religious service when you believe all these people around you are praying/worshipping a fairy tale? Wouldn't you think those people are idiots?
For some, god may be a fairy tale while spiritualism is not.
 
But wouldn't that be an annoying community to belong to if you are an atheist? Why would you subject yourself to a religious service when you believe all these people around you are praying/worshipping a fairy tale? Wouldn't you think those people are idiots?
For some, god may be a fairy tale while spiritualism is not.
But if one does not acknowledge the existence of a god, what would be the point of a spiritual experience?
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Church

Unitarianism is the belief in the single personality of God, in contrast to the doctrine of the Trinity (three persons in one God).[1] It is the philosophy upon which the modern Unitarian movement was based, and, according to its proponents, is the original form of Christianity. Unitarian Christians believe in the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, as found in the New Testament and other early Christian writings, and hold him up as an exemplar. Adhering to strict monotheism, they maintain that Jesus was a great man and a prophet of God, perhaps even a supernatural being, but not God himself. Unitarians believe in the moral authority, but not necessarily the divinity, of Jesus. They do not pray to Jesus. Their theology is thus distinguishable from the theology of Catholic, Orthodox, mainline Protestant, and other Christian denominations, who hold the Trinity doctrine as a core belief.

Nothing about agnostics or atheists that I can see. They simply do not believe Jesus is God, simply an example of God's teachings. However, if Jesus was not who he said He is, that would make Him a liar, and thus not a good person to follow. This is the main issue I have with their beliefs, but in no way would I wish anything like what happened on Sunday upon them.
Here is a better link:http://www.uunashua.org/100q/c1.shtml#q1

<h2 id="q7">Do you believe in God?</h2> We do not have a defined doctrine of God. Members are free to develop individual concepts of God that are meaningful to them. They are also free to reject the term and concept altogether.

Most of us do not believe in a supernatural, supreme being who can directly intervene in and alter human life or the mechanism of the natural world. Many believe in a spirit of life or a power within themselves, which some choose to call God.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Church

They simply do not believe Jesus is God, simply an example of God's teachings. However, if Jesus was not who he said He is, that would make Him a liar, and thus not a good person to follow. This is the main issue I have with their beliefs,
You realize that every religion outside of christianity doesn't believe this either, right?
Yes, this thought has crossed my mind. However, since this is a subject about Unitarians, I figured I'd stay on topic.
 
I didn't want to clutter up the other thread that focuses on the actual shooting in Knoxville so I'm starting this thread to ask --People in the other thread said that many Unitarian churches are made up of agnostics/atheists. I don't get it. If anyone is a member of a Unitarian church or just understands more -- why would an agnostic or atheist attend a church? Even a Unitarian one.
To make friends.
 
But wouldn't that be an annoying community to belong to if you are an atheist? Why would you subject yourself to a religious service when you believe all these people around you are praying/worshipping a fairy tale? Wouldn't you think those people are idiots?
For some, god may be a fairy tale while spiritualism is not.
But if one does not acknowledge the existence of a god, what would be the point of a spiritual experience?
It's possible to believe in a power greater than yourself without worshiping it as a god.
 
Not to be confused with Unitarian, but similar... my wife goes to a Unity Church. Every so often, Ill go with her and its not offensive to me. They don’t read scripture, there isn’t fire and brim stone, they don’t lecture, there isnt talk of the afterlife.

Its more about living your life now, the best you can. I (somewhat) jokingly call it the Church of Self Help.

 
But wouldn't that be an annoying community to belong to if you are an atheist? Why would you subject yourself to a religious service when you believe all these people around you are praying/worshipping a fairy tale? Wouldn't you think those people are idiots?
For some, god may be a fairy tale while spiritualism is not.
But if one does not acknowledge the existence of a god, what would be the point of a spiritual experience?
It's possible to believe in a power greater than yourself without worshiping it as a god.
I'm still a little fuzzy on this, but I won't burden you with the gross details, and I'll leave this alone for now.
 
But wouldn't that be an annoying community to belong to if you are an atheist? Why would you subject yourself to a religious service when you believe all these people around you are praying/worshipping a fairy tale? Wouldn't you think those people are idiots?
For some, god may be a fairy tale while spiritualism is not.
But if one does not acknowledge the existence of a god, what would be the point of a spiritual experience?
It's possible to believe in a power greater than yourself without worshiping it as a god.
I'm still a little fuzzy on this, but I won't burden you with the gross details, and I'll leave this alone for now.
I believe in the vastness and greatness of the universe and the many wonders of nature; but this does not mean that I think there is a bearded white man controlling it.
 
This was a Unitarian Universalist church, which actually slightly different from Unitarian.

Unitarian Universalism (UUism) is a theologically liberal religion characterized by its support for a "free and responsible search for truth and meaning." Unitarian Universalists do not share a creed; rather, they are unified by their shared search for spiritual growth. Unitarian Universalists draw on many different theological sources and have a wide range of beliefs and practices.
Unitarian Universalism is even more wide open than straight Unitarianism (for whatever the labels are worth).
 
I didn't want to clutter up the other thread that focuses on the actual shooting in Knoxville so I'm starting this thread to ask --People in the other thread said that many Unitarian churches are made up of agnostics/atheists. I don't get it. If anyone is a member of a Unitarian church or just understands more -- why would an agnostic or atheist attend a church? Even a Unitarian one.
To make friends.
I think that this is the simplest and best answer. My wife, son, and I have been attending a UU church here in Cincy for the the past year and 1/2. We finally joined about three months ago. Our story is pretty similar to many of the other members. My wife was raised in a UCC church and she often talked about how important that "community" was to her as a child. Today she is more of a general theist. I wasn't raised in a church going environment and would now consider myself an atheist. Part of what was attractive to us as parents was the terrific religious education program they have for the children teaching them all about other faiths and religious traditions in an objective and encompassing way. However, what was also attractive to us, particularly here in a more conservative part of Ohio, was the opportunity to be around others who either shared some of our beliefs or were open to other's beliefs. The services on Sunday are just a part of it. The dinners, the small groups, the picnics, book clubs, Humanist meetings, etc have been terrific experiences for all of us and we've met very interesting new friends.
 
I didn't want to clutter up the other thread that focuses on the actual shooting in Knoxville so I'm starting this thread to ask --People in the other thread said that many Unitarian churches are made up of agnostics/atheists. I don't get it. If anyone is a member of a Unitarian church or just understands more -- why would an agnostic or atheist attend a church? Even a Unitarian one.
To make friends.
I think that this is the simplest and best answer. My wife, son, and I have been attending a UU church here in Cincy for the the past year and 1/2. We finally joined about three months ago. Our story is pretty similar to many of the other members. My wife was raised in a UCC church and she often talked about how important that "community" was to her as a child. Today she is more of a general theist. I wasn't raised in a church going environment and would now consider myself an atheist. Part of what was attractive to us as parents was the terrific religious education program they have for the children teaching them all about other faiths and religious traditions in an objective and encompassing way. However, what was also attractive to us, particularly here in a more conservative part of Ohio, was the opportunity to be around others who either shared some of our beliefs or were open to other's beliefs. The services on Sunday are just a part of it. The dinners, the small groups, the picnics, book clubs, Humanist meetings, etc have been terrific experiences for all of us and we've met very interesting new friends.
Don't lie. It's devil worship and witchcraft training sessions, plain and simple.
 
I didn't want to clutter up the other thread that focuses on the actual shooting in Knoxville so I'm starting this thread to ask --People in the other thread said that many Unitarian churches are made up of agnostics/atheists. I don't get it. If anyone is a member of a Unitarian church or just understands more -- why would an agnostic or atheist attend a church? Even a Unitarian one.
To make friends.
I think that this is the simplest and best answer. My wife, son, and I have been attending a UU church here in Cincy for the the past year and 1/2. We finally joined about three months ago. Our story is pretty similar to many of the other members. My wife was raised in a UCC church and she often talked about how important that "community" was to her as a child. Today she is more of a general theist. I wasn't raised in a church going environment and would now consider myself an atheist. Part of what was attractive to us as parents was the terrific religious education program they have for the children teaching them all about other faiths and religious traditions in an objective and encompassing way. However, what was also attractive to us, particularly here in a more conservative part of Ohio, was the opportunity to be around others who either shared some of our beliefs or were open to other's beliefs. The services on Sunday are just a part of it. The dinners, the small groups, the picnics, book clubs, Humanist meetings, etc have been terrific experiences for all of us and we've met very interesting new friends.
Don't lie. It's devil worship and witchcraft training sessions, plain and simple.
That's only twice a year doing the solstices. I've told you this.
 
I didn't want to clutter up the other thread that focuses on the actual shooting in Knoxville so I'm starting this thread to ask --People in the other thread said that many Unitarian churches are made up of agnostics/atheists. I don't get it. If anyone is a member of a Unitarian church or just understands more -- why would an agnostic or atheist attend a church? Even a Unitarian one.
To make friends.
I think that this is the simplest and best answer. My wife, son, and I have been attending a UU church here in Cincy for the the past year and 1/2. We finally joined about three months ago. Our story is pretty similar to many of the other members. My wife was raised in a UCC church and she often talked about how important that "community" was to her as a child. Today she is more of a general theist. I wasn't raised in a church going environment and would now consider myself an atheist. Part of what was attractive to us as parents was the terrific religious education program they have for the children teaching them all about other faiths and religious traditions in an objective and encompassing way. However, what was also attractive to us, particularly here in a more conservative part of Ohio, was the opportunity to be around others who either shared some of our beliefs or were open to other's beliefs. The services on Sunday are just a part of it. The dinners, the small groups, the picnics, book clubs, Humanist meetings, etc have been terrific experiences for all of us and we've met very interesting new friends.
Don't lie. It's devil worship and witchcraft training sessions, plain and simple.
That's only twice a year doing the solstices. I've told you this.
You got something against the equinoxes, punk?
 
Famous Unitarians include, among others:

John Adams

Abigail Adams

John Quincy Adams

Millard Fillmore

Benjamin Franklin

Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Paine

Paul Revere

Adlai Stevenson

William Howard Taft

Daniel Webster

John C. Calhoun

Louisa May Alcott

Ray Bradbury

William Cullen Bryant

Robert Burns

Samuel Tayler Coleridge

ee cummings

Charles Dickens

T.S. Eliot

Ralph Waldo Emerson

Nathaniel Hawthorne

Oliver Wendell Holmes

Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

John Milton

Herman Melville

Beatrix Potter

Christopher Reeve

Pete Seeger

Rod Serling

Robert Shaw

Mary Shelley

Henry David Thoreau

Kurt Vonnegut

William Carlos Williams

John Greenleaf Whittier

Frank Lloyd Wright

Clara Barton

Albert Schweitzer

Alexander Graham Bell

Charles Darwin

Isaac Newton

Florence Nightingale

Clarence Darrow

Bertrand Russell

 
But wouldn't that be an annoying community to belong to if you are an atheist? Why would you subject yourself to a religious service when you believe all these people around you are praying/worshipping a fairy tale? Wouldn't you think those people are idiots?
For some, god may be a fairy tale while spiritualism is not.
But if one does not acknowledge the existence of a god, what would be the point of a spiritual experience?
It's possible to believe in a power greater than yourself without worshiping it as a god.
I'm still a little fuzzy on this, but I won't burden you with the gross details, and I'll leave this alone for now.
I believe in the vastness and greatness of the universe and the many wonders of nature; but this does not mean that I think there is a bearded white man controlling it.
To be fair, I don't think there's a bearded white guy controlling it, either. If anything, God is probably actually quite youthful (at least he could appear that way). Who would want to appear old and fragile? I mean, if I was the ruler of a universe and had the power to assume any form, I'd want to look handsome. But of course, that's just me.
 
...With a new presidential election looming, it’s apparently urgently important for members of the media to know whether Republicans such as Scott Walker believe that President Obama is a Christian. Walker’s answer — “I don’t know” — is not one the media want to hear. But how can any man know another man’s heart — especially the heart of a person he’s never met? Who but God knows our deepest beliefs? To the extent that a president bares his soul to anyone, it won’t be to a reporter or to any person likely to speak to a reporter.

Thus, any pundit or commentator who purports to declare what a president “really believes” on matters of faith should be viewed with deep suspicion. But while we can’t know the faith in a man’s heart, we can discern quite a lot about the faith he manifests. Discussions about religion should center not just on orthodoxy (correct belief) but also on orthopraxy (correct conduct). And while we can’t know a president’s inner walk of faith, we can know his conduct, and we can know how he publicly ties that conduct to his professed faith. In other words, we can discern how he practices his civil religion. In the recent past, Bill Clinton’s public walk of faith was instantly recognizable to anyone who grew up in the heavily churched South: the backslidden Baptist, fluent in the language of faith, struggling with personal demons, yet instantly able to make connections with pastors and the public. Evangelicals who met with him privately often came away impressed with his awareness of his own sin, with his professed desire to be a better man, and with his knowledge and awareness of Scripture. He spoke of a desire to protect life, and they believed him. He spoke of his close walk with God, and they believed him. His policies, however, frustrated and angered many Evangelicals and Catholics. Yes, he said that he wanted abortion to be “rare,” but in practice his support for Roe v. Wade was unwavering. And there were lingering suspicions that he was conning the public, that perhaps he wasn’t so much struggling with personal demons as he was regretting that he had gotten caught. George W. Bush, by contrast, presented a form of mainstream Evangelicalism common to many of our nation’s so-called megachurches.

Focused on a relationship with Jesus, heavy on stories of personal renewal and redemption (President Bush spoke of his past battles with alcohol), oriented toward reaching out to the poor (especially overseas), and plagued with an oddly unbiblical optimism about human nature, the mainstream Evangelical is hardly the religious scold portrayed in the secular media. President Bush’s policies — including his greatest successes and most consequential mistakes — reflected this public faith. For a success, think of the launch of the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief and the millions of lives it has saved. For a mistake, think of the consistent failures to understand the cultural challenges in Iraq and Afghanistan, where — it turned out — God may not have implanted in “every human heart” the “desire to live in freedom.” Some human hearts burn with much greater desires for vengeance and blood. What about President Obama? What is his public faith? Much ink has been spilled — almost all of it wasted — attempting to discern what President Obama “really believes.” I’m a frequent guest on Christian radio shows, and even now — more than six years into his presidency — the occasional caller will proclaim, with confidence, that the president is actually Muslim. When Jeremiah Wright exploded onto the scene in 2008, and sound bites of his anti-American rants filled the airwaves, millions of Americans familiarized themselves with the basics of “black-liberation theology” and wondered whether President Obama was truly that radical.

He sat listening to Wright’s preaching for years. He named his second book after a phrase in one of Wright’s sermons. By his own admission, it was in Wright’s church that he came to faith. He claimed that he attended the church “every week, 11 o’clock service.” How could he not have been heavily influenced? In his public faith, he was. But not by black-liberation theology. Instead, he has publicly adopted the beliefs and practices of Wright’s denomination, the United Church of Christ (UCC), perhaps the most liberal of the Mainline Protestant American denominations. In fact, when one considers not just the president’s public professions of faith but also his public policies, his relationship with the UCC represents the perfect marriage of church and politician. Obama’s public professions of faith have been in near-perfect harmony with his church’s teachings. The UCC, like many Mainline denominations, is scarcely Christian in any meaningful theological sense. Its roots lie in the Reformation, but its theology would be unrecognizable to any of the great reformers. Rather, it draws on selective Christian teachings and selective Christian traditions to provide general spiritual comfort and, specifically, to inspire its members to progressive social activism. The UCC’s statement of its own beliefs is remarkable for how little traditional, orthodox Christianity it contains.

The church proudly declares, “The UCC has no rigid formulation of doctrine or attachment to creeds or structures. Its overarching creed is love.” The church emphasizes each person’s “spiritual journey,” the “power of peace,” the “power of possibility,” and the belief that each person is “unique and valuable.” If you’re looking for the Apostles’ Creed, or any expression of beliefs remotely similar to the Apostles’ Creed, you’ve come to the wrong place. In 2004, Barack Obama gave perhaps his most candid interview about his personal beliefs, which clearly reflect UCC influence. Here’s his basic expression of faith: “So, I’m rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.” Obama noted that Jesus was a “wonderful teacher” and said, “Jesus is an historical figure for me, and he’s also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher.” In response to the question “Do you believe in heaven?” he responded dismissively: “Do I believe in harps and clouds and wings?” He went on to explain that he did, in fact, believe in some form of eternal reward: “What I believe in is that if I live my life as well as I can, that I will be rewarded.” Perhaps his most famous statement in the interview regarded sin, which he described as “being out of alignment with my values.” To be sure, President Obama has said that Christ “died for our sins,” but viewed in context with his other theological statements, he is not speaking the language of most orthodox believers, of the necessity of substitutionary atonement to reconcile a soul with God, but rather in accord with a more progressive model. Journalist Lisa Miller — in a 2008 profile of Obama’s spiritual journey — described the concept well: “Christ’s gift of salvation was to the community of believers, not to individual people in isolation.”

Obama’s expressed beliefs do not, of course, represent traditional Christian orthodoxy, but they do represent a kind of Mainline orthodoxy, which holds that religions are roughly equivalent (so long as they’re not “distorted” into fundamentalism) and that Christ’s death didn’t represent an atoning sacrifice so much as an example of his love and commitment to nonviolence. We see this line of thinking not just in the UCC but in the Presbyterian Church (USA), the Episcopal Church, and many others. Writing in First Things, Philip Turner, former dean of the Berkeley Divinity School at Yale, described the Episcopal drift from orthodoxy, a drift common to all Mainline churches: The Episcopal sermon, at its most fulsome, begins with a statement to the effect that the incarnation is to be understood as merely a manifestation of divine love. From this starting point, several conclusions are drawn. The first is that God is love pure and simple. Thus, one is to see in Christ’s death no judgment upon the human condition. Rather, one is to see an affirmation of creation and the persons we are. The life and death of Jesus reveal the fact that God accepts and affirms us. The result of this theology is a transition of focus from a relationship with the divine to a relationship with man, and to advocacy of very specific social policies. Turner continues: Accepting love requires a form of justice that is inclusive of all people, particularly those who in some way have been marginalized by oppressive social practice. The mission of the Church is, therefore, to see that those who have been rejected are included, for justice as inclusion defines public policy.

The result is a practical equivalence between the Gospel of the Kingdom of God and a particular form of social justice. And this brings us — from a public-policy standpoint — to the most ironic aspect of President Obama’s declaration of faith, that he is “a big believer in the separation of church and state” and that he’s “very suspicious of religious certainty expressing itself in politics.” President Obama’s church, at its core, is thoroughly and officially invested in politics. This is, of course, an accusation hurled at Evangelical conservatives all the time, mainly in an effort to silence them, to drive them from the public square. But when it comes to denominations such as the UCC, it is formal, doctrinal truth. In 2007, Senator Obama spoke to the UCC’s Iowa conference, declaring, “My faith teaches me that I can sit in church and pray all I want, but I won’t be fulfilling God’s will unless I go out and do the Lord’s work.” And what is the “Lord’s work” to the UCC? Politics. The UCC has a Web page called “Understanding the Issues” that provides church resources on dozens of contentious public-policy issues, from major national and international issues such as “Immigration,” “Israel/Palestine,” “Pentagon Spending” (the church declares that the “federal budget is a moral document”), and “LGBT Justice” to more small-scale issues such as the “UCC Coffee Project.” In many cases, the policy positions are quite clear. The church calls on Israel to end the “occupation” of Palestinian territories, for example.

In others, the church connects members to far-left social-justice resources. Contrast this with the Web pages of major Evangelical denominations, such as the Southern Baptist Convention or the Presbyterian Church in America, which focus on man’s relationship to God while providing minimal to nonexistent commentary on public policy. Public policy for these denominations is largely a matter of individual conscience, applying the principles of faith, rather than an instrument for enacting formal church policy. To be sure, Baptist and Presbyterian denominational leaders advance pro-life policies (so does the Catholic Church), but the full breadth of public-policy positions embraced by the UCC makes it a virtual “ChurchPAC.” Yet it’s the religious Right, not the religious Left, that is consistently accused of improperly mixing faith and politics. There is remarkable conformity, in fact, between President Obama’s words and policies and his church’s official positions on public policy — a level of conformity that would cause alarms to ring across the progressive spectrum if there were similar Evangelical church statements to which a conservative president adhered. With the exceptions of his apparent (temporary) lie regarding his opposition to same-sex marriage (which his church has supported since at least 2005) and the church’s opposition to some of his military policies, the president has advanced UCC positions again and again. But there’s a chicken-and-egg problem here.

Does President Obama hold these views because of church teaching, or did the church essentially spiritualize views he already held? There’s evidence of the latter. In his 2004 interview, discussing his conversion, Obama said that it helped “connect the work I had been pursuing with my faith.” The picture that’s painted is of a young man looking for a spiritual experience that would confirm and then deepen his values, not of a young man lost, recognizing his sinful nature (indeed, by contrast, Obama speaks eloquently of his pre-Christian good deeds) and embracing his Savior as the true and only hope in this life and the life to come. And this brings us to the reason a man could, on the one hand, rebuke “religious certainty expressing itself in politics” while, on the other hand, essentially becoming an instrument of officially sanctioned church policy.

The UCC and the rest of the Protestant Mainline offer little religion in the classical sense, but rather spiritualized politics supplemented with personal inspiration and self-created meaning — inspiration and meaning that they believe can be gained from virtually any other major religion. And because the focus isn’t on God but on man, the practitioner is oblivious to the fact that he’s embodying a union of church and state that would repulse him if practiced by the orthodox. Barack Obama may believe in black-liberation theology, or he may not. He may have a close relationship with God, or he may not. We can’t know his heart. But when it comes to his civic religion, President Obama is his church’s — and liberal Christianity’s — great and mighty instrument.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/415266/obama-really-christian-david-french


 
...With a new presidential election looming, it’s apparently urgently important for members of the media to know whether Republicans such as Scott Walker believe that President Obama is a Christian. Walker’s answer — “I don’t know” — is not one the media want to hear. But how can any man know another man’s heart — especially the heart of a person he’s never met? Who but God knows our deepest beliefs? To the extent that a president bares his soul to anyone, it won’t be to a reporter or to any person likely to speak to a reporter.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/415266/obama-really-christian-david-French
I think you dropped this in the wrong thread.

If you asked Scott Walker if Mike Huckabee is a Christian would his answer be "I don't know"?

 
...With a new presidential election looming, its apparently urgently important for members of the media to know whether Republicans such as Scott Walker believe that President Obama is a Christian. Walkers answer I dont know is not one the media want to hear. But how can any man know another mans heart especially the heart of a person hes never met? Who but God knows our deepest beliefs? To the extent that a president bares his soul to anyone, it wont be to a reporter or to any person likely to speak to a reporter.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/415266/obama-really-christian-david-French
I think you dropped this in the wrong thread.

If you asked Scott Walker if Mike Huckabee is a Christian would his answer be "I don't know"?
Maybe. You should ask him.

 
...With a new presidential election looming, it’s apparently urgently important for members of the media to know whether Republicans such as Scott Walker believe that President Obama is a Christian. Walker’s answer — “I don’t know” — is not one the media want to hear. But how can any man know another man’s heart — especially the heart of a person he’s never met? Who but God knows our deepest beliefs? To the extent that a president bares his soul to anyone, it won’t be to a reporter or to any person likely to speak to a reporter.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/415266/obama-really-christian-david-French
I think you dropped this in the wrong thread.

If you asked Scott Walker if Mike Huckabee is a Christian would his answer be "I don't know"?
Walker would say he's a Christian. I think we know what Walker was doing. I just thought it was an interesting take, looked for a thread on Unitarianism and thought this might be interesting. I don't know if it's correct or not, and I don't know much about it. As for Obama, I think his mother was Unitarian, which doesn't get mentioned much.

 
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