Unofficial Deion Branch Thread (1 Viewer)

[mad sweeney]

Though of this recently. Would people be ridiculing the move if they had traded a 2nd instead of a 1st? Remembering they essentially got a 4th from Frisco by trading DJax after acquiring his replacement. Here're some of the last 1st rounders the Hawks took. Chris Spencer who was supposed to be the second coming of Kevin Mawae but has really only been an above average center now finally starting in his 4thyear. He sucked at guard when he filled in there in previous years. That's 2 seasons of no production from a 1st rounder and 1 good but not notable 3rd season. Another pick was Marcus Tubbs, a great run stuffer but has barely put in a full season's worth of games, if that, in three years due to being injury prone. Basically a bust. Kelly Jennings, last year's pick, is a serviceable CB but his height is a problem when covering big WRs like the Cards have. He didn't start his first season.

Wheras the second round has been the goldmine for Seattle recently. Lofa Tatutpu easily and by far outweighs all 3 first rounders put together. Plus Darryl Tapp turned in a near ProBowl season in only his second season.

So for the Seahawks, their last 2 first rounders didn't turn in any better seasons in their first two years than Branch has in his. I'd rather they keep their second round picks which they've done much better with than gamble on a player in the first. So maybe they overpaid by a round, it hasn't hurt the team and the jury is still out on how much in fact they overpaid. Because many of their first rounders have yet to live up to their draft status in multiple seasons. Branch took awhile to learn the O last year and was hurt for much of this year. But he's been more useful than any of the team's last 1sts. It's not like they gave up everything SD did to move up and take Ryan Leaf. It's not a great business habit, but it's really nowhere near as bad as most of you seem determined to make it. I suppose none of you have ever overpaid for anything, never overtipped a waiter, bought gas at a higher price to save a drive to the cheaper station, or splurged on yourself because you could afford it at the time.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Deion Branch: 661 yards, 4 touchdownsOh yeah, he's worth a first round draft pick!(snicker, snicker)Thanks for demonstrating to the entire world your low football IQ, "Doctor"

I notice you didn't respond directly to my post. How did Meachem work out again this year? Shall we go back ten years and look at picks 24 or after and see the success rate and the level of success? Again if you'd like to make a point with examples please do so but Branch's numbers are not going to help you. Maybe in five years they will, but not know. This seems to be escaping you.

 

[mad sweeney]

You're right. I would be remiss if I failed to mention his 2006 season (which was God awful as well)Branch has a whopping 1300 yards receiving and 8 TD's over the course of two full seasons with the Seahawks now.Oh, yeah! He's worth a first round draft pick!

2 full seasons huh. Considering he didn't take the field until game 5 (wasn't even a Seahwk until week 3) last year and had to learn an entirely different offense on the go as the #2WR, I'd hardly call that a full season. And considering he hasn't played in 5 games this year, I'd hardly call that a full season. But other than those 10 games, yeah he's had 2 full seasons in Seattle.

 

[Da Guru]

Branch is a good #2 guy..but he is overpaid and not worth a #1 pick.

Heck, Nate Burleson may be the #1 guy next year. Nate really turned into a playmaker the second half of the season..made the most of his chances.

 

[Phurfur]

Though of this recently. Would people be ridiculing the move if they had traded a 2nd instead of a 1st? Remembering they essentially got a 4th from Frisco by trading DJax after acquiring his replacement. Here're some of the last 1st rounders the Hawks took. Chris Spencer who was supposed to be the second coming of Kevin Mawae but has really only been an above average center now finally starting in his 4thyear. He sucked at guard when he filled in there in previous years. That's 2 seasons of no production from a 1st rounder and 1 good but not notable 3rd season. Another pick was Marcus Tubbs, a great run stuffer but has barely put in a full season's worth of games, if that, in three years due to being injury prone. Basically a bust. Kelly Jennings, last year's pick, is a serviceable CB but his height is a problem when covering big WRs like the Cards have. He didn't start his first season.Wheras the second round has been the goldmine for Seattle recently. Lofa Tatutpu easily and by far outweighs all 3 first rounders put together. Plus Darryl Tapp turned in a near ProBowl season in only his second season. So for the Seahawks, their last 2 first rounders didn't turn in any better seasons in their first two years than Branch has in his. I'd rather they keep their second round picks which they've done much better with than gamble on a player in the first. So maybe they overpaid by a round, it hasn't hurt the team and the jury is still out on how much in fact they overpaid. Because many of their first rounders have yet to live up to their draft status in multiple seasons. Branch took awhile to learn the O last year and was hurt for much of this year. But he's been more useful than any of the team's last 1sts. It's not like they gave up everything SD did to move up and take Ryan Leaf. It's not a great business habit, but it's really nowhere near as bad as most of you seem determined to make it. I suppose none of you have ever overpaid for anything, never overtipped a waiter, bought gas at a higher price to save a drive to the cheaper station, or splurged on yourself because you could afford it at the time.

Wow, did I just read that.I think you're confused and you have defeatist logic.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Ok so lets just look at WRs over the past five years that were taken at where Branch was taken and then the next WR off the board to see what kind of player can be had in the last part of the first round just at WR.Bobby Meachem the first Wr taken after the Seahawks pick:

ZERO, ZERO, ZERO, ZERO, ZEROCraig Davis the second Wr taken after Seahawks pick:

Season Team  Receiving Rushing Fumbles 						  G GS Rec Yds Avg Long TD 2007  San Diego Chargers  14  1  20 188 9.4 18 1

2006 #25 Santonio Holmes/Steelers

GP Catches Yds Avg TDs First Downs 13 52 942 18.1 8 42

2006 #36 Chad Jackson/Pats

Year Team G GS Rec Yds Avg Lg TD 20+ 40+ 1st 2006 New England Patriots 12 1 13 152 11.7 35 3 4 0 6 2007 New England Patriots 2 0 0 0 --- 0 0 0 0 0

2005 #27 Roddy White/Falcons

2005 Atlanta Falcons 16 8 29 446 15.4 54 3 4 2 23 2006 Atlanta Falcons 16 5 30 506 16.9 55 0 8 5 19 2007 Atlanta Falcons 16 15 83 1202 14.5 69 6 19 2 52

2005 #35 Reggie Brown/Eagles

2005 Philadelphia Eagles 16 11 43 571 13.3 56 4 10 2 24 2006 Philadelphia Eagles 16 15 46 816 17.7 60 8 15 6 34 2007 Philadelphia Eagles 16 14 61 780 12.8 45 4 8 2 38

200429. Atlanta (from Indianapolis) - Michael Jenkins, WR Ohio State

2004 Atlanta Falcons 16 0 7 119 17.0 46 0 3 1 4 2005 Atlanta Falcons 14 12 36 508 14.1 58 3 5 1 28 2006 Atlanta Falcons 16 16 39 436 11.2 34 7 4 0 22 2007 Atlanta Falcons 15 6 53 532 10.0 29 4 4 0 31

31. San Francisco (from Carolina) - Rashaun Woods, WR Oklahoma State Playing with the Toronto Arganauts 2003#44 Washington Taylor Jacobs WR Florida

2003 Washington Redskins 8 0 3 37 12.3 19 1 0 0 1 2004 Washington Redskins 15 4 16 178 11.1 45 0 2 1 9 2005 Washington Redskins 15 3 11 100 9.1 24 0 1 0 4 2006 San Francisco 49ers 8 0 4 29 7.3 10 0 0 0 2 2007 Denver Broncos 10 0 3 40 13.3 21 1 1 0 2

#45 New England Bethel Johnson WR Texas A&M

2003 New England Patriots 15 5 16 209 13.1 45 2 2 1 12 2004 New England Patriots 13 1 10 174 17.4 48 1 3 2 8 2005 New England Patriots 11 1 4 67 16.8 55 1 1 1 1 2006 Minnesota Vikings 11 2 9 156 17.3 40 0 3 1 6 TOTAL   50 9 39 606 15.5 55 4 9 5 27

Thanks for demonstrating to the entire world your low football IQ, "Doctor"

So essentially it is hit and miss at really any position but especially at WR you see one very good player in Holmes, a few decent guys including White who had a great year (but look at years one and two!) and then guys who are out of the NFL after a few years. The point is that a guaranteed return on a player in the first round is not a bad deal. Seattle may have overpaid, we'll see but they are playing with a veteran group who want to win know. I guess this all shows my football I.Q. Basically it's Deion Branch sucks and the Seahawks are stupid because you say so without offerering a real look at the entire picture here.

 

[mad sweeney]

Though of this recently. Would people be ridiculing the move if they had traded a 2nd instead of a 1st? Remembering they essentially got a 4th from Frisco by trading DJax after acquiring his replacement. Here're some of the last 1st rounders the Hawks took. Chris Spencer who was supposed to be the second coming of Kevin Mawae but has really only been an above average center now finally starting in his 4thyear. He sucked at guard when he filled in there in previous years. That's 2 seasons of no production from a 1st rounder and 1 good but not notable 3rd season. Another pick was Marcus Tubbs, a great run stuffer but has barely put in a full season's worth of games, if that, in three years due to being injury prone. Basically a bust. Kelly Jennings, last year's pick, is a serviceable CB but his height is a problem when covering big WRs like the Cards have. He didn't start his first season.Wheras the second round has been the goldmine for Seattle recently. Lofa Tatutpu easily and by far outweighs all 3 first rounders put together. Plus Darryl Tapp turned in a near ProBowl season in only his second season. So for the Seahawks, their last 2 first rounders didn't turn in any better seasons in their first two years than Branch has in his. I'd rather they keep their second round picks which they've done much better with than gamble on a player in the first. So maybe they overpaid by a round, it hasn't hurt the team and the jury is still out on how much in fact they overpaid. Because many of their first rounders have yet to live up to their draft status in multiple seasons. Branch took awhile to learn the O last year and was hurt for much of this year. But he's been more useful than any of the team's last 1sts. It's not like they gave up everything SD did to move up and take Ryan Leaf. It's not a great business habit, but it's really nowhere near as bad as most of you seem determined to make it. I suppose none of you have ever overpaid for anything, never overtipped a waiter, bought gas at a higher price to save a drive to the cheaper station, or splurged on yourself because you could afford it at the time.

Wow, did I just read that.I think you're confused and you have defeatist logic.

I'm completely clear on the topic. I think you and the other naysayers are too caught up in definitions and are lloking at things either in too small a time frame or are confusing immediate fantasy impact with a player's NFL worth.

 

[Phurfur]

Though of this recently. Would people be ridiculing the move if they had traded a 2nd instead of a 1st? Remembering they essentially got a 4th from Frisco by trading DJax after acquiring his replacement. Here're some of the last 1st rounders the Hawks took. Chris Spencer who was supposed to be the second coming of Kevin Mawae but has really only been an above average center now finally starting in his 4thyear. He sucked at guard when he filled in there in previous years. That's 2 seasons of no production from a 1st rounder and 1 good but not notable 3rd season. Another pick was Marcus Tubbs, a great run stuffer but has barely put in a full season's worth of games, if that, in three years due to being injury prone. Basically a bust. Kelly Jennings, last year's pick, is a serviceable CB but his height is a problem when covering big WRs like the Cards have. He didn't start his first season.Wheras the second round has been the goldmine for Seattle recently. Lofa Tatutpu easily and by far outweighs all 3 first rounders put together. Plus Darryl Tapp turned in a near ProBowl season in only his second season. So for the Seahawks, their last 2 first rounders didn't turn in any better seasons in their first two years than Branch has in his. I'd rather they keep their second round picks which they've done much better with than gamble on a player in the first. So maybe they overpaid by a round, it hasn't hurt the team and the jury is still out on how much in fact they overpaid. Because many of their first rounders have yet to live up to their draft status in multiple seasons. Branch took awhile to learn the O last year and was hurt for much of this year. But he's been more useful than any of the team's last 1sts. It's not like they gave up everything SD did to move up and take Ryan Leaf. It's not a great business habit, but it's really nowhere near as bad as most of you seem determined to make it. I suppose none of you have ever overpaid for anything, never overtipped a waiter, bought gas at a higher price to save a drive to the cheaper station, or splurged on yourself because you could afford it at the time.

Wow, did I just read that.I think you're confused and you have defeatist logic.

I'm completely clear on the topic. I think you and the other naysayers are too caught up in definitions and are lloking at things either in too small a time frame or are confusing immediate fantasy impact with a player's NFL worth.

I think you said that Seattle blows their 1st round picks and does a better job on 2nd round picks. Because of this you would rather they use their first on Branch rather than an unproven rookie. I would suggest this, why not trade your first for a second every year. I think any team would make that trade.

 

[mad sweeney]

Though of this recently. Would people be ridiculing the move if they had traded a 2nd instead of a 1st? Remembering they essentially got a 4th from Frisco by trading DJax after acquiring his replacement. Here're some of the last 1st rounders the Hawks took. Chris Spencer who was supposed to be the second coming of Kevin Mawae but has really only been an above average center now finally starting in his 4thyear. He sucked at guard when he filled in there in previous years. That's 2 seasons of no production from a 1st rounder and 1 good but not notable 3rd season. Another pick was Marcus Tubbs, a great run stuffer but has barely put in a full season's worth of games, if that, in three years due to being injury prone. Basically a bust. Kelly Jennings, last year's pick, is a serviceable CB but his height is a problem when covering big WRs like the Cards have. He didn't start his first season.Wheras the second round has been the goldmine for Seattle recently. Lofa Tatutpu easily and by far outweighs all 3 first rounders put together. Plus Darryl Tapp turned in a near ProBowl season in only his second season. So for the Seahawks, their last 2 first rounders didn't turn in any better seasons in their first two years than Branch has in his. I'd rather they keep their second round picks which they've done much better with than gamble on a player in the first. So maybe they overpaid by a round, it hasn't hurt the team and the jury is still out on how much in fact they overpaid. Because many of their first rounders have yet to live up to their draft status in multiple seasons. Branch took awhile to learn the O last year and was hurt for much of this year. But he's been more useful than any of the team's last 1sts. It's not like they gave up everything SD did to move up and take Ryan Leaf. It's not a great business habit, but it's really nowhere near as bad as most of you seem determined to make it. I suppose none of you have ever overpaid for anything, never overtipped a waiter, bought gas at a higher price to save a drive to the cheaper station, or splurged on yourself because you could afford it at the time.

Wow, did I just read that.I think you're confused and you have defeatist logic.

I'm completely clear on the topic. I think you and the other naysayers are too caught up in definitions and are lloking at things either in too small a time frame or are confusing immediate fantasy impact with a player's NFL worth.

I think you said that Seattle blows their 1st round picks and does a better job on 2nd round picks. Because of this you would rather they use their first on Branch rather than an unproven rookie. I would suggest this, why not trade your first for a second every year. I think any team would make that trade.

I didn't say they blew their picks, I said they've done better with their seconds than they have with their firsts so why not get a proven player even if they have to overpay. You guys all seem to think that unless BRanch gets 1000+/10 TDs that the deal was totally lopsided and Seattle got owned. Or that whoever they would've picked would've performed better than Branch has. And that's just not true. You're resistant to logic and for a guy who "sees things in color" you're having an awfully hard time handling the concept that whether or not Branch is worth a first (which is still debatable, unless you look strictly at stats without context) , overpaying on occasion isn't a horrible thing, hasn't hurt the team, isn't regrettable etc...Yeah, I would like the move a lot more if Branch was a stud WR by now. But just because he isn't yet doesn't make the trade a complete failure. Especially when you consider that anyone picked with that selection may or may not have worked out himself.

 

[phthalatemagic]

It's too soon to decide if it was a failure. If Branch has a few great playoff games, how will the naysayers react then?

 

[teamroc]

The better question is, had the refs not stolen the game and given it to the Steelers, would the SeaBags have even traded for Branch?

 

[mad sweeney]

The better question is, had the refs not stolen the game and given it to the Steelers, would the SeaBags have even traded for Branch?

An even better question is if DJax actually tried to catch the ball instead of "cool catching" the ball, or if Stevens just plain caught the ball at all would they have traded for Branch?Yes. It was pretty much a given that DJax would be traded when he was regardless. He was rapidly becoming a locker room problem and was detaching himself from the team in a beef with management over a raise the old GM had promised him that Ruskell had no intention of fulfilling. I would rather go into the post Jackson era with Branch/Hackett/Engram/Burleson than with Hackett/Burleson/Engram/Obomanu.

 

[money.never.sleeps]

The Seahawks should show "buyers remorse" when It came to not locking up Steve Hutchinson and then thinking that getting Nate Burleson for an insane price would help the matter or be equal "stealing" from the Vikings.

And No, Matt Hasselbeck IS a good QB... Not Great.

 

[Baby New Year]

I think they would've been better off giving a 4th for Moss and paying him peanuts.

 

[Anarchy99]

Freak injury or not, this was a major issue when the Pats didn't re-sign him for what he wanted and franchised him.

I did not see it mentioned in the rest of the thread, but Branch was never franchised and the Pats never would have franchised him. He held out prior to his final season with the Pats (the year he wound up being traded) when he demanded a new deal averaging $6+ million per season. He had a year left on his contract for $1 million and he refused to play so they traded him.

 

[mad sweeney]

The Seahawks should show "buyers remorse" when It came to not locking up Steve Hutchinson and then thinking that getting Nate Burleson for an insane price would help the matter or be equal "stealing" from the Vikings.And No, Matt Hasselbeck IS a good QB... Not Great.

The contract was not insane. It was worded to match the Hutch deal but was really a moderately priced 4 years for 16 mil WR contract which they re worded in the offseason. It only looked big on paper.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

The Seahawks should show "buyers remorse" when It came to not locking up Steve Hutchinson and then thinking that getting Nate Burleson for an insane price would help the matter or be equal "stealing" from the Vikings.

And this shows me all I need to know in how much I should value your opinion. The offer sheet signed with Burleson was a "stab" at the Vikings and NFL, and in no way was Burleson ever going to see the money. In fact, Burleson and the Hawks re-negotiated the deal afterwards to what the real contract numbers were.

To actually educate yourself on the scenario...read the link

http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2...ct_for_burleson

 

[maxwelledison]

I'm not certain that this is an either/or situation. Branch may or may not be worth the 24th pick in any given draft (or that particular draft) but he may provide something the Seahawks need at the expense of an asset they don't value as much as others (for whatever reason).

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Here's what I'll say: There are a lot of people who don't understand prospects, the draft, or really the NFL. Some post here. Some think a 24th pick in the first round is more valuable than a proven player and in some cases that may be true. But in the end the late first round guys are far from guaranteed and comparing subsequent moves by the teams in question like the Moss trade is essentially 4th grade material.

Was it a good trade? It takes years to figure this stuff out and you have to look beyond the actual pick and the player involved. You have to include the Meachems and the Davis' in the argument which the OP probably doesn't even know exists. Seattle has the win now mentality which likely makes no sense to the OP because that would make too much sense. This is a :( thread disguised as a look at me I lost my fantasy league this year so I'll blame Deion Branch because I have no idea what I'm talking about thread.

Nonsense. You don't think other trades that happen around the league are a good indication of the value GMs see in draft picks versus established players? Seriously? You think they're irrelevant to the discussion?Chris Chambers was traded for a 2nd round pick

Wes Welker was traded for 2nd and 7th round picks

Randy Moss was traded for a 4th round pick

Willis McGahee was traded for 3rd and 7th round picks

Darrell Jackson was traded for a 4th round pick

Thomas Jones was included in a trade to swap 2nd round picks

Trent Green was traded for a 5th round pick

Pete Kendall was traded for a 4th round pick

You don't think Deion Branch for a 1st isn't a little out of whack with the rest of these recent player-for-a-pick trades? You don't think they are at least relavent to the discussion?

Those trades did not occur in the same time period as the Branch trade. Value in trades in the NFL fluctuate based on supply & demand for the current year. Nor do trades for other positions really have any relevance in this discussion. What does trading a Guard for a 4th rounder have to do with anything? A WR and a Guard are different commodities. May as well look at what Left wingers get traded for in the NHL.A RB one year mey get more/less in a trade depending on the amount of RBs in the draft & Free Agency. If a team really needs a RB, and there are very few options, do you think the team can really compare it to a year when RBs were plentiful?

When Branch was traded, here were the Free Agent WRs available and other trades made.

Terrell Owens - right after the Philly debaucle

David Givens

Antwaan Randle El

Brandon Lloyd traded for a 3rd rounder and a 4th rounder

Keyshawn Johnson

Antonio Bryant

David Boston

Reche Cladwell

....WRs not even worthy to name

When looking at this list of available WRs in the off-season, and trading Brandon Lloyd for a 3rd and 4th rounder, is Deion Branch for a late 1st rounder really that outrageous given the circumstances of the WR market that off-season?

Given the situation of WRs that off-season and that Seattle was a team which had a chance at the Super Bowl, I do not think getting Branch was a bad mistake at all. Did they overpay for Branch...probably in hindsight, but given the circumstances at the time I do not fault the Seahawks for making the decision.

 

[money.never.sleeps]

The Seahawks should show "buyers remorse" when It came to not locking up Steve Hutchinson and then thinking that getting Nate Burleson for an insane price would help the matter or be equal "stealing" from the Vikings.

And this shows me all I need to know in how much I should value your opinion. The offer sheet signed with Burleson was a "stab" at the Vikings and NFL, and in no way was Burleson ever going to see the money. In fact, Burleson and the Hawks re-negotiated the deal afterwards to what the real contract numbers were.

To actually educate yourself on the scenario...read the link

http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2...ct_for_burleson

So after the fact was already pointed out to me you find it neccessary to go ahead and write another post concerning it? Yes, alot of contracts are made out to be more than they actually are but the fact is Burleson is nothing more than a decent #2 WR and not worth the humiliation of thinking that is getting the Vikings and NFL back for losing Hutchinson.

 

[mad sweeney]

The Seahawks should show "buyers remorse" when It came to not locking up Steve Hutchinson and then thinking that getting Nate Burleson for an insane price would help the matter or be equal "stealing" from the Vikings.

And this shows me all I need to know in how much I should value your opinion. The offer sheet signed with Burleson was a "stab" at the Vikings and NFL, and in no way was Burleson ever going to see the money. In fact, Burleson and the Hawks re-negotiated the deal afterwards to what the real contract numbers were.

To actually educate yourself on the scenario...read the link

http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2...ct_for_burleson

So after the fact was already pointed out to me you find it neccessary to go ahead and write another post concerning it? Yes, alot of contracts are made out to be more than they actually are but the fact is Burleson is nothing more than a decent #2 WR and not worth the humiliation of thinking that is getting the Vikings and NFL back for losing Hutchinson.

They did it to show the league how stupid the poison pills were. They had stipulations in there like his whole contract becomes guaranteed if he played more than half his home games in a dome and other silly things like that. The point wasn't to get back at Minnesota at all, because they actually had to give MN a 3rd for him, it was to give the finger to the league for allowing clauses like the ones MN put in the Hutch deal.

 

[Sea Bass]

No remorse on the Branch trade. Tons of remorse, anger, disappointment, etc. on losing Hutch to the Vikings.

 

[nerangers]

Came across this today:

Revisiting Deion Branch - Mike Reiss, Boston Globe

Surely, the Patriots could have benefited from having Branch -- who is signed in Seattle through 2011 -- on their team in 2006.

At the same time, they turned the 2007 first-round pick into Brandon Meriweather, and it also gave them flexibility to trade their original 2007 first-round pick into 2008, where they picked up the 49ers' first-round pick (7th overall).

With that first round pick from SF, the Pats also got a 4th rounder, which was traded for WR Randy Moss

 

[Phurfur]

It's too soon to decide if it was a failure. If Branch has a few great playoff games, how will the naysayers react then?

OopsDeion Branch (calf) is listed as questionable for the Wild Card round.

Branch will be a game-time decision against Washington. If Branch is active, he could see limited snaps and play off the bench behind Bobby Engram.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Hackett is a fantasy stud in the making while Branch is nuttin' but has-been never-was!

How can someone who never was anything (according to you) be a has-been?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Hackett is a fantasy stud in the making while Branch is nuttin' but has-been never-was!

How can someone who never was anything (according to you) be a has-been?

I'm actually not sure what he's trying to accomplish at this point. At least you have an argument on this subject, I don't see one in this thread.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

the $$ they gave him looks worse than the pick they gave. Especially if it leads to Hackett leaving.

Branch is a nice player (Would easily be one of the best #2's in the league. If you want to argue he's a #1, I won't....I just believe he'd best be utilized in Driver/Housh/Coles mold), but issue is he's being paid #1 money.

 

[Phurfur]

the $$ they gave him looks worse than the pick they gave. Especially if it leads to Hackett leaving.

Branch is a nice player (Would easily be one of the best #2's in the league. If you want to argue he's a #1, I won't....I just believe he'd best be utilized in Driver/Housh/Coles mold), but issue is he's being paid #1 money.

I disagree with is. There are allot of good #2s in the league. I would take any of the following #2s over him.Jerricho Cotchery

Wes Welker

T.J. Housh

Santonio Holmes

Reggie Wayne

Brandon Marshall

Patrick Crayton

Calvin Johnson

Greg Jennings

Anquan Boldin

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

the $$ they gave him looks worse than the pick they gave. Especially if it leads to Hackett leaving.

Branch is a nice player (Would easily be one of the best #2's in the league. If you want to argue he's a #1, I won't....I just believe he'd best be utilized in Driver/Housh/Coles mold), but issue is he's being paid #1 money.

I disagree with is. There are allot of good #2s in the league. I would take any of the following #2s over him.Jerricho Cotchery

Wes Welker

T.J. Housh

Santonio Holmes

Reggie Wayne

Brandon Marshall

Patrick Crayton

Calvin Johnson

Greg Jennings

Anquan Boldin

A case could be made that none of the bolded guys are really #2s. Maybe even Cotchery. For sure, Marshall is the #1 in Denver now.

 

[Tanner9919]

This guy is clearly not worth the first round draft pick the Seahawks traded away to get him. He's the fourth best WR on the team.661 yards and 4 TD's on the seasonPathetic!The person in the Seahawks organization responsibile for that trade should be fired!

yes they have buyer's remorse..they also have buyers remorse on Nate Burleson, and seller's guilt on Steve Hutchinsonthey also gave a fat contract to an aging SA who's done nothing signing that big deal.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

I think Brady made Branch, No?