No, I think the others were about Wali Lundy.Not another Lundy thread!! Oh the humanity!![]()
This post is simply aHow does this affect Bush's value in a 2 man keeper that awards 2 points per chop block?
This post is simply aHow does this affect Bush's value in a 2 man keeper that awards 2 points per chop block?.
This post is simply aHow does this affect Bush's value in a 2 man keeper that awards 2 points per chop block?.
I would guess that he is one of the least valuable "starters" in the league, and there are a few backups more valuable. Somewhere around RB30-35 maybe?This post is simply aHow does this affect Bush's value in a 2 man keeper that awards 2 points per chop block?.
As much as I am upset that not one of you has answered my quesiton, but this never gets old.Seriously - what is his current value?
Whereever you had Mike Bell last week. Lundi probably a round after that.For real though, unless Houston picks up another back, or Davis gets a super cure, I dont see how Lundi doesn't get the starts as things look now.This post is simply aHow does this affect Bush's value in a 2 man keeper that awards 2 points per chop block?.
As much as I am upset that not one of you has answered my quesiton, but this never gets old.Seriously - what is his current value?
at this point yes... hold.... but if he goes of week 1 and your team isn't dependant on his success... sell sell SELL!My guess would be around RB#30.The real question might be what to do if he goes out in week 1 and gets 100 yards and a TD?Buy/Sell/Hold?I would say he is a hold at this point.
Why do we continue to do this.
If he does great and starts all year, you get really lucky.
If he does good and remains the starter, you get pretty lucky
If he doesnt do alot, no big deal ya took a flyer.
If he does nothing and Morency takes over, oh well you took a shot and made DD owner scramble.
Thats it. NOBODY HAS A CLUE WHAT HIS VALUE IS. Take for granted he's among the worst starters and if he does better its all gravy.
When the sun shines on his butt and he has a good week or two we'll have 30 threads about whether you should trade the guy. Again, NOBODY KNOWS. He could keep it up, fall off, or completely disappear.
Actually, you have already answered your own question. Value is relative to the specific league and its owners, and in your league it appears that he has little value. However, if you own him and want something good in a trade, all it takes is for one other owner in your league to value him highly for that to change. Furthermore, if you want him and his owner views him as having little value, then its great for you.We have an arguement over Wally Lundy. Some of the guppies feel he isn't that valuable as of right now.Where do you have Lundy valued right now RB20, RB25, RB50?
How tough IS IT?Why do we continue to do this.
If he does great and starts all year, you get really lucky.
If he does good and remains the starter, you get pretty lucky
If he doesnt do alot, no big deal ya took a flyer.
If he does nothing and Morency takes over, oh well you took a shot and made DD owner scramble.
Thats it. NOBODY HAS A CLUE WHAT HIS VALUE IS. Take for granted he's among the worst starters and if he does better its all gravy.
When the sun shines on his butt and he has a good week or two we'll have 30 threads about whether you should trade the guy. Again, NOBODY KNOWS. He could keep it up, fall off, or completely disappear.People aren't talking about his season-long value, they're talking about his draft value. This is something we should have an idea about, as we're all trying to plan accordingly for any late drafts we may have.
This situation flip-flops each week. This weekend (sat nite), in a 16 teamer, Morency went 8.13 and I snagged Lundy at 12.14. It looks good now, but could change any time.12 team league I did last niteLundy in the 8th.I got V.Morency in the 17th.All things considered I think Wali is overrated, due to the fact we really dont know whats going on and this stinks of RBBC. all season long.
Ridiculous. At least we actually saw Q Griffin run the ball a few years ago when we went owl-poop over him. Well, normal guys at least.ironically, in latest ADP he is one draft pick after Carson Palmer .... which strikes me as CRAZY
so would you agree that either before round 10ish is too early?This situation flip-flops each week. This weekend (sat nite), in a 16 teamer, Morency went 8.13 and I snagged Lundy at 12.14. It looks good now, but could change any time.12 team league I did last niteLundy in the 8th.I got V.Morency in the 17th.All things considered I think Wali is overrated, due to the fact we really dont know whats going on and this stinks of RBBC. all season long.
No, I think the others were about Wali Lundy.Not another Lundy thread!! Oh the humanity!![]()
Somewhere between chicken scratch and nilThis post is simply aHow does this affect Bush's value in a 2 man keeper that awards 2 points per chop block?.
As much as I am upset that not one of you has answered my quesiton, but this never gets old.Seriously - what is his current value?
LOL @ you calling someone else a guppyWe have an arguement over Wally Lundy. Some of the guppies feel he isn't that valuable as of right now.Where do you have Lundy valued right now RB20, RB25, RB50?
I think so, unless you get both. But, mine was in a 16 teamer, so the end of the 8th is not real early. I think one would be best off either taking both (even if too early to ensure getting both) or wait a couple rounds after the first one is gone and take the other.In 12+ team redraft leagues, I thinnk you could do much worse than the Lundy/Morency combo as RB4so would you agree that either before round 10ish is too early?This situation flip-flops each week. This weekend (sat nite), in a 16 teamer, Morency went 8.13 and I snagged Lundy at 12.14. It looks good now, but could change any time.12 team league I did last niteLundy in the 8th.I got V.Morency in the 17th.All things considered I think Wali is overrated, due to the fact we really dont know whats going on and this stinks of RBBC. all season long.
Walnuts was the ballsiest player in the game before shredding his knee in aNo, I think the others were about Wali Lundy.Not another Lundy thread!! Oh the humanity!![]()
You haven't heard about Wally Lundy before? Word on the street is Wali and Wally are from a set of triplets, and the third brother is named Walnuts Lundy. I heard Walnuts is the ballsiest player out of the three.
LOL, I just have to laugh at all the FWP comparisons (not at you Texasmouth). The only comparison I see is that they were both cheap and had the potential to be a starter. FWP ran behind one of the best offensive lines in the league, with one of the top coach's, one of the best defenses in the league, and a top NFL QB. None of which can be said for Lundy.The guy is a fine guy to take as a potential starter but those that are expecting FWP #'s will be disappointed IMO.I think the Texans still have a crappy offensive line, IRRC. I just worry that the Lundy hype is a little bit premature. FWP was impressive in camp last season. I dont really think Lundy has shown what FWP did last year.
Not really, IF there was a clear cut #1. This is a situation that could change IMMEDIATELY. If there's a chance DD returns, you wasted any pick prior to Round 13 on these guys. If its a big league that sucks up running backs like an aardvark on an anthill, and you are humping good WRs and thin at RB, then you spin the wheel. I'd take both of them though unless there's no other value on the board. That said, it isnt like anyone you plug in at Houston is gonna be a solid starter for you at this point. You either get lucky or you dont.so would you agree that either before round 10ish is too early?This situation flip-flops each week. This weekend (sat nite), in a 16 teamer, Morency went 8.13 and I snagged Lundy at 12.14. It looks good now, but could change any time.12 team league I did last niteLundy in the 8th.I got V.Morency in the 17th.All things considered I think Wali is overrated, due to the fact we really dont know whats going on and this stinks of RBBC. all season long.
I totally agree, that is what I was getting at in my post. FWP was in the perfect situation at the perfect time with Bettis there to bang away the tough yards. Maybe Lundy will surprise everyone and throw down some yards on the Denver South Broncotexans.LOL, I just have to laugh at all the FWP comparisons (not at you Texasmouth). The only comparison I see is that they were both cheap and had the potential to be a starter. FWP ran behind one of the best offensive lines in the league, with one of the top coach's, one of the best defenses in the league, and a top NFL QB. None of which can be said for Lundy.The guy is a fine guy to take as a potential starter but those that are expecting FWP #'s will be disappointed IMO.I think the Texans still have a crappy offensive line, IRRC. I just worry that the Lundy hype is a little bit premature. FWP was impressive in camp last season. I dont really think Lundy has shown what FWP did last year.
First time I laughed out loud today. Love it!Please stop pissing in the shark pool
I was thinking this same thing as I read through the thread. A year ago we were having this same discussion about FWP.Do I think Wali Lundy 2006 = FWP 2005? No I don't. The situations are dramatically different as far as the teams they play for.But someone snapped up Lundy in the 8th round of my 12-owner draft last night, about two rounds sooner than I thought he would go, and Willie Parker was still on many waiver wires leading up to the start of the NFL season last year.He could be huge, he could be serviceable all season, he could be a bust. But the word is out on him. He won't fall far after the other starters have been drafted in your league, and should be drafted ahead of starters like Kevan Barlow and most RBBC tandems.Lundy 2006=Willie Parker 2005 value get him cheap, he may break out week one and never look back.
I don't know if I would write him off just yet. DD put up pretty good points and the Texans will be using the same blocking philosophy that Denver and Atlanta employ so well. At least Lundy won't have to worry about the Bus stealing all of his goal line touches. DD ain't coming back and you can get both guys, Lundy and Morency, late so I would take a flyer.LOL, I just have to laugh at all the FWP comparisons (not at you Texasmouth). The only comparison I see is that they were both cheap and had the potential to be a starter. FWP ran behind one of the best offensive lines in the league, with one of the top coach's, one of the best defenses in the league, and a top NFL QB. None of which can be said for Lundy.The guy is a fine guy to take as a potential starter but those that are expecting FWP #'s will be disappointed IMO.I think the Texans still have a crappy offensive line, IRRC. I just worry that the Lundy hype is a little bit premature. FWP was impressive in camp last season. I dont really think Lundy has shown what FWP did last year.
Yes, we clearly need a pinned thread about an unknown back who has the temporary lead in a RBBC situation in one of the worst offenses in the NFL Yudkin, can you get right on this?Could somebody please collect links to every Wali Lundy thread and put them in one pinned thread? This would be an invaluable service, even moreso than the drafting position pinned thread. As a Lundy owner I need all of the surrounding hype in one location so I can stroke my own ego more easily.THANKS IN ADVANCE
I don't think anyone is writing him off, I certainly am not. He's a decent guy to take a shot at but the Wali Lundy talk has reached a fever pitch with 3 new threads a day and I'm not sure why. Ya, he's got a good shot to start/take the lead in the RBBC but even if he is the undisputed starter I don't people should assume that he will put up DD #'s. Even if he does, what happens if DD comes back week 6?One thing that many forget about DD and his numbers is that he was the king of meaningless stat padding numbers when the Texans were behind. For whatever reason (probably to keep Carr from getting killed) when most teams would be passing to get the ball up the field they would use DD exclusively. There's a new coaching staff in town and I don't know that you can assume that they will have the same ######ed play calling that Capers did.I don't know if I would write him off just yet. DD put up pretty good points and the Texans will be using the same blocking philosophy that Denver and Atlanta employ so well. At least Lundy won't have to worry about the Bus stealing all of his goal line touches. DD ain't coming back and you can get both guys, Lundy and Morency, late so I would take a flyer.LOL, I just have to laugh at all the FWP comparisons (not at you Texasmouth). The only comparison I see is that they were both cheap and had the potential to be a starter. FWP ran behind one of the best offensive lines in the league, with one of the top coach's, one of the best defenses in the league, and a top NFL QB. None of which can be said for Lundy.The guy is a fine guy to take as a potential starter but those that are expecting FWP #'s will be disappointed IMO.I think the Texans still have a crappy offensive line, IRRC. I just worry that the Lundy hype is a little bit premature. FWP was impressive in camp last season. I dont really think Lundy has shown what FWP did last year.
No can do - server would crash.Next question.Could somebody please collect links to every Wali Lundy thread and put them in one pinned thread? This would be an invaluable service, even moreso than the drafting position pinned thread. As a Lundy owner I need all of the surrounding hype in one location so I can stroke my own ego more easily.THANKS IN ADVANCE
Here's why: Houston was 12th in the NFL in rushing yards in 2004, 15th in 2005. When you throw this guy in to the mix:Gary Kubiak-I don't think anyone is writing him off, I certainly am not. He's a decent guy to take a shot at but the Wali Lundy talk has reached a fever pitch with 3 new threads a day and I'm not sure why. Ya, he's got a good shot to start/take the lead in the RBBC but even if he is the undisputed starter I don't people should assume that he will put up DD #'s. Even if he does, what happens if DD comes back week 6?One thing that many forget about DD and his numbers is that he was the king of meaningless stat padding numbers when the Texans were behind. For whatever reason (probably to keep Carr from getting killed) when most teams would be passing to get the ball up the field they would use DD exclusively. There's a new coaching staff in town and I don't know that you can assume that they will have the same ######ed play calling that Capers did.I don't know if I would write him off just yet. DD put up pretty good points and the Texans will be using the same blocking philosophy that Denver and Atlanta employ so well. At least Lundy won't have to worry about the Bus stealing all of his goal line touches. DD ain't coming back and you can get both guys, Lundy and Morency, late so I would take a flyer.LOL, I just have to laugh at all the FWP comparisons (not at you Texasmouth). The only comparison I see is that they were both cheap and had the potential to be a starter. FWP ran behind one of the best offensive lines in the league, with one of the top coach's, one of the best defenses in the league, and a top NFL QB. None of which can be said for Lundy.The guy is a fine guy to take as a potential starter but those that are expecting FWP #'s will be disappointed IMO.I think the Texans still have a crappy offensive line, IRRC.
I just worry that the Lundy hype is a little bit premature.
FWP was impressive in camp last season. I dont really think Lundy has shown what FWP did last year.
I think that when value is all over the place, this is when the true fantasy shark owners take advantage. It takes a strong drafter to be able to identify and take advantage of value.So to keep this on target...We have so far RB30RB308th RoundNot before 10th RoundPimpin Aint easy laughing at meAnd somewhere around 12th - 14th roundValue is a little all over the place.
No, thats when pure luck takes over. The guys that take him ANYWHERE and he explodes, will say they are the Sharks. The guys that didnt and he flops will point out that they took Morency and are the sharks. The guy that sat on DD when he comes back and racks it up then point out sharks recognized the experience missing from the rookies and feeling the offensive line problems....... Sharks my ###.Believe me, if an NFL coaching staff doesnt have a clue what to do, I'm gonna guess that we dont either.I think that when value is all over the place, this is when the true fantasy shark owners take advantage. It takes a strong drafter to be able to identify and take advantage of value.So to keep this on target...We have so far RB30RB308th RoundNot before 10th RoundPimpin Aint easy laughing at meAnd somewhere around 12th - 14th roundValue is a little all over the place.