Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
you're really reaching with the discount doublecheck comparison.
do you know what a 'weak equivalency' is?
is cam one of your family members?
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Very accurate scouting report re: Cam Newton (1 Viewer)
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you're really reaching with the discount doublecheck comparison.
do you know what a 'weak equivalency' is?
is cam one of your family members?
Concept Coop
Footballguy
How? It is a TD celebration. No.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Next time you want to sound smart, Google the phrase first. Make sure you use it properly and know yourself what it means.'Kool-Aid Larry said:
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Donnybrook
Footballguy
Winning in fantasy football maybe.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Good posting. They have lost 3 straight and haven't beaten anyone with a winning record; the Panthers could be 3-4 with that schedule. But, his career W-L record is respectable.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Discount Double Checks don't happen down 20.'Kool-Aid Larry said:
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
dude, you have to go outside conference to play a team with a winning record.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
'Weak equivalency', dude. I like Dalton and think he will be a good player; but as the other poster mentioned, correcting me, justly - Dalton hasn't been winning football games.
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Dirk Digler
Footballguy
Interesting assesment. Obviously as a young man he has plenty or time to develop as a player, a leader and a man... so, the jury defineately out. But, a right hook from Steve Smith might not be the worst thing for him. lol.
Funny though, I'd never read this scouting report but everything about it rings as amazingly accurate after having seen this most recent press conference... I don't folow the Panthers and admittedly know very little about Cam other than the general 'cattle education' most of us get via the other media outlets...
I do like to think I have a good read on people in general. I saw that press conference and it literally made me sick. He smacked of everything that is sited in this scouting report and I do remember thinking after the presser "wow, what a spoiled d0uchebag. I can't imagine that being my QB". If i played for Carolina, that presser would have left a really bad taste in my mouth.
Funny though, I'd never read this scouting report but everything about it rings as amazingly accurate after having seen this most recent press conference... I don't folow the Panthers and admittedly know very little about Cam other than the general 'cattle education' most of us get via the other media outlets...
I do like to think I have a good read on people in general. I saw that press conference and it literally made me sick. He smacked of everything that is sited in this scouting report and I do remember thinking after the presser "wow, what a spoiled d0uchebag. I can't imagine that being my QB". If i played for Carolina, that presser would have left a really bad taste in my mouth.
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I agree, maybe some are being harsh, but I think we need to put this in perspective:
1) he needs to grow up and quit throwing teammates, coaches or others under the bus.
2) he lacks some leadership. I get it, but as a 2nd year pro, we are expecting a little much in terms of asking him to take control of his team. Many Young pros are often lacking in leadership in some capacity. On occasion you will get a pro who will come in on draft day and make the team his own, but this is the exception and not the rule.
3) He needs a run game. Teams have adjusted to the fact he likes to throw the deep ball (think Rex Grossman) and the team can take the heat off of him by either running the ball better or adding a short passing game to the game plan. I'm thinking with the money spent on DeAngelo and JStew, the run game would be the natural choice.
4) the sooner he realizes he is not the next coming of Peyton Manning, the better this will be for him. Hopefully the hot start to his career does not make him uncoachable.
that's all I have to say for now.
1) he needs to grow up and quit throwing teammates, coaches or others under the bus.
2) he lacks some leadership. I get it, but as a 2nd year pro, we are expecting a little much in terms of asking him to take control of his team. Many Young pros are often lacking in leadership in some capacity. On occasion you will get a pro who will come in on draft day and make the team his own, but this is the exception and not the rule.
3) He needs a run game. Teams have adjusted to the fact he likes to throw the deep ball (think Rex Grossman) and the team can take the heat off of him by either running the ball better or adding a short passing game to the game plan. I'm thinking with the money spent on DeAngelo and JStew, the run game would be the natural choice.
4) the sooner he realizes he is not the next coming of Peyton Manning, the better this will be for him. Hopefully the hot start to his career does not make him uncoachable.
that's all I have to say for now.
cracKer
Shawn Culcasi
No support, no plan...in Cam we trust
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I'm not saying everyone who agrees with this assessment (written LAST year before he was drafted) is a racist bigot, but you can be certain every racist bigot does agree with it.
He's an immature guy, no question. I hate anybody in a position of leadership giving off that much negative energy. But the "scouting report" is over the top, and frankly, unprofessional.
I don't get the comparisons to VY; in terms of being whiny, he is most like Cutler or Rivers.
He's an immature guy, no question. I hate anybody in a position of leadership giving off that much negative energy. But the "scouting report" is over the top, and frankly, unprofessional.
I don't get the comparisons to VY; in terms of being whiny, he is most like Cutler or Rivers.
TheBigGronkowski
Footballguy
Cam Dropped in my league this week. Didn't see this coming 8 weeks ago.
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rjv
Footballguy
You forgot to mention he lost the game for them due to the fumble he lost.
Are you in an 8 team league?He is QB9 in fantasy points per game in most leagues
If anything it was the opposite... The problem is the gameplan was suited to Cam's strengths and that gameplan simply can not succeed in the NFL.The underperforming and thus overpaid RBs, the lack of defense due in part to them being on the field too often because of the lack of sustained drives, the lack of defense due to an overpaid offense, the firing of the GM....All could in part be blamed on Chud's read option experiment that has failed.'cracKer said:
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
The scouting report that was posted to start this thread is more of an unfounded "personality profile". I say unfounded because the person who wrote it apparently never met Cam. It's no different than us passing judgement on celebrities who we have never met--we base our opinions on what we see on the big screen or what we read about on TMZ. However, the reason why Cam has regressed this year is largely due to the sophistication of NFL scouting reports. Look at last year--he started the season off amazingly well. His first 5-7 games were awesome because NFL teams didn't know what he was capable of doing--there were no full NFL scouting reports on him. However, if you look at the latter part of last season--his slowdown started then. The NFL scouting reports caught up to him--they exposed his strengths and weaknesses. The issue is if Cam can go into the "lab" and tweak his game to be ahead of the scouting reports again. The irony here is that the report that "started" this thread is not what is important-- it's the Nfl scouting reports that are important.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Cam got better over the 2nd half of last season, even though his passing yards dropped. His Ints dropped, his TDs remained, and he turned the ball over much less. And what are defenses doing differently? The only difference I see, is that his team can't run the ball anymore, and he has facing more 2nd/3rd and longs. It's easy to look at his numbers and say defenses "figured him out" - but what are they really doing? He looks like the same guy, to me. I could be missing something, but I don't see defenses doing anything that they didn't do last season.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
He never met Cam yet he nailed it.... go figure. If Cam's public persona is different than his private persona he may want to change his public persona because he looks like a huge jerk. The report that started this thread is VERY important. He's going down the way of Vince Young......fast. Its starting to become an every week thing which is not good. Maybe its a compliment to compare him to Young....Vince Young at least won games.
12punch
Footballguy
Did they mean it literally?
