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QB Michael Vick on whether he can throw the ball at 100 percent: "Yeah, I can throw the ball. I can throw at full strength and effectively."

QB Michael Vick (ribs) on going through a full practice: "It's always good to get out there and get back in the swing of things. They haven't decided on my role yet, but whatever I'm asked to do, that's what I'm going to do." Eagles RapidReports

Coach Andy Reid on whether he expects QB Michael Vick to be 100 percent when Eagles return from their bye in two weeks: "He feels pretty close now, so I'd be pretty confident in that."

As a Kolb owner, this concerns me. I have a feeling Vick will be in quite often in wildcat and as a change of pace this weekend. This, along with D Jax's injury really may hurt Kolb, IMO.

 
I am a Vick owner and I am worried about both of those guys' value. I have a feeling Reid is going to play the guys together at the same time FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. I think both of their values' are going to plummet.

coltsnut said:
QB Michael Vick on whether he can throw the ball at 100 percent: "Yeah, I can throw the ball. I can throw at full strength and effectively."

QB Michael Vick (ribs) on going through a full practice: "It's always good to get out there and get back in the swing of things. They haven't decided on my role yet, but whatever I'm asked to do, that's what I'm going to do." Eagles RapidReports

Coach Andy Reid on whether he expects QB Michael Vick to be 100 percent when Eagles return from their bye in two weeks: "He feels pretty close now, so I'd be pretty confident in that."

As a Kolb owner, this concerns me. I have a feeling Vick will be in quite often in wildcat and as a change of pace this weekend. This, along with D Jax's injury really may hurt Kolb, IMO.
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I think Reid needs to give the starting QB job back to Vick this week, not wait until Week 9. At the very least, keep Kolb as the Week 7 starter, and announce Vick as the Week 9 starter. I suppose, though, he doesn't want to disincent Kolb from playing hard. Kolb has played well in relief, but the Eagles will not advance in the playoffs w/ Kolb. With Vick, they could make a Super Bowl run.

 
Kolb has taken all the first team snaps this week. He's starting. The only drawback this week would be the dumb wildcat nonsense. God I hope that doesn't show up in the playbook. It basically ruins the flow of the game and it makes both QB's awful for real NFL purposes. Not just fantasy. Either start Kolb or start Vick, Andy. DO NOT USE THE WILDCAT! 4-1 without the wildcat this year.

 
NoCheese said:
I think Reid needs to give the starting QB job back to Vick this week, not wait until Week 9. At the very least, keep Kolb as the Week 7 starter, and announce Vick as the Week 9 starter. I suppose, though, he doesn't want to disincent Kolb from playing hard. Kolb has played well in relief, but the Eagles will not advance in the playoffs w/ Kolb. With Vick, they could make a Super Bowl run.
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I don't understand this logic. Who did Vick beat (Det and Jax), I could QB that team to a victory over them. Kolb has beaten Atlanta, who was at the time #3 in the power rankings, and a SF team that is playing awful, but it was across the country playing a hungry team...I expected him to struggle but he did just the opposite.
 
Insein said:
Kolb has taken all the first team snaps this week. He's starting. The only drawback this week would be the dumb wildcat nonsense. God I hope that doesn't show up in the playbook. It basically ruins the flow of the game and it makes both QB's awful for real NFL purposes. Not just fantasy. Either start Kolb or start Vick, Andy. DO NOT USE THE WILDCAT! 4-1 without the wildcat this year.
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:mellow: right there with you. It pains me watching the Eagles drive only to switch up to the wildcat and break the flow. Brutal. I am all about running with TEN and then if he has another good game. You have two weeks to figure out.I'm starting kolb with confidence. The Titans secondary look exposed and I think the Eagles can capitalize.
 
Saint said:
Insein said:
Kolb has taken all the first team snaps this week. He's starting. The only drawback this week would be the dumb wildcat nonsense. God I hope that doesn't show up in the playbook. It basically ruins the flow of the game and it makes both QB's awful for real NFL purposes. Not just fantasy. Either start Kolb or start Vick, Andy. DO NOT USE THE WILDCAT! 4-1 without the wildcat this year.
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:goodposting: right there with you. It pains me watching the Eagles drive only to switch up to the wildcat and break the flow. Brutal. I am all about running with TEN and then if he has another good game. You have two weeks to figure out.I'm starting kolb with confidence. The Titans secondary look exposed and I think the Eagles can capitalize.
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If they can keep those front 4 away from Kolb. Tenn puts a lot of pressure on the QB without having to blitz
 
coltsnut said:
Saint said:
Insein said:
Kolb has taken all the first team snaps this week. He's starting. The only drawback this week would be the dumb wildcat nonsense. God I hope that doesn't show up in the playbook. It basically ruins the flow of the game and it makes both QB's awful for real NFL purposes. Not just fantasy. Either start Kolb or start Vick, Andy. DO NOT USE THE WILDCAT! 4-1 without the wildcat this year.
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:goodposting: right there with you. It pains me watching the Eagles drive only to switch up to the wildcat and break the flow. Brutal. I am all about running with TEN and then if he has another good game. You have two weeks to figure out.I'm starting kolb with confidence. The Titans secondary look exposed and I think the Eagles can capitalize.
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If they can keep those front 4 away from Kolb. Tenn puts a lot of pressure on the QB without having to blitz
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I think the Eagles O-line might be turning the corner. King Dunlap looked good against Jon Abraham, one on one. Plus they actually threw in some chips from the backs when needed. If the titans only rush 4, they may be able to be handled.
 
NoCheese said:
I think Reid needs to give the starting QB job back to Vick this week, not wait until Week 9. At the very least, keep Kolb as the Week 7 starter, and announce Vick as the Week 9 starter. I suppose, though, he doesn't want to disincent Kolb from playing hard. Kolb has played well in relief, but the Eagles will not advance in the playoffs w/ Kolb. With Vick, they could make a Super Bowl run.
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Right now there's no indication he gets it back week 9. Reid has side stepped the question in his press conferences. It seems the QB's aren't sure either;As for his role after after the bye week, he said "that's Andy's decision."

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles...l#ixzz137hFRJPc

 
I'd be surprised if Vick saw the field Sunday. Why risk aggravating an injury when the bye week is right around the corner?

 
northwoods said:
I'd be surprised if Vick saw the field Sunday. Why risk aggravating an injury when the bye week is right around the corner?
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ponchsox said:
Reid won't play Vick at all this week. Why risk further injury for a few wildcat snaps?
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It's entirely possible they could run a few very-low-risk wild-cat formations/plays to keep future teams guessing, while also keeping Vick safe and sound. You know... Hand it off on the dive or end-around, or throw it on a quick slant, at all costs.
 
Insein said:
cvnpoka said:
it would be immensely idiotic to play a guy recovering from a rib injury in the wildcat.
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Let me introduce you to Andy Reid then.
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Remember when McNabb was hurt one year, maybe a similar injury or his sports hernia, and we all figured Reid would be forced to call a balanced run/pass game? I think the passing % was one of Reid's highest ever. I remember it was just shocking Reid would have McNabb drop back to pass as much as he did knowing the QB was hurting.
 
Amused to Death said:
NoCheese said:
I think Reid needs to give the starting QB job back to Vick this week, not wait until Week 9. At the very least, keep Kolb as the Week 7 starter, and announce Vick as the Week 9 starter. I suppose, though, he doesn't want to disincent Kolb from playing hard. Kolb has played well in relief, but the Eagles will not advance in the playoffs w/ Kolb. With Vick, they could make a Super Bowl run.
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Right now there's no indication he gets it back week 9. Reid has side stepped the question in his press conferences. It seems the QB's aren't sure either;As for his role after after the bye week, he said "that's Andy's decision."

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles...l#ixzz137hFRJPc
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You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. Reid has repeatedly said Vick is the starter and will be once he's healthy.
 
Hipple said:
Amused to Death said:
NoCheese said:
I think Reid needs to give the starting QB job back to Vick this week, not wait until Week 9. At the very least, keep Kolb as the Week 7 starter, and announce Vick as the Week 9 starter. I suppose, though, he doesn't want to disincent Kolb from playing hard. Kolb has played well in relief, but the Eagles will not advance in the playoffs w/ Kolb. With Vick, they could make a Super Bowl run.
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Right now there's no indication he gets it back week 9. Reid has side stepped the question in his press conferences. It seems the QB's aren't sure either;As for his role after after the bye week, he said "that's Andy's decision."

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles...l#ixzz137hFRJPc
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You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. Reid has repeatedly said Vick is the starter and will be once he's healthy.
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Sorry, you missed this from Andy's presser Wednesday:THE QUESTIONS remain, which was why they were asked again yesterday.

If Kevin Kolb adds to the luster of his last two starts with another impressive performance Sunday at Tennessee, could Kolb possibly get back the starting job? The one he lost when Michael Vick played well for a game and a half, after Kolb suffered a concussion in the season opener?

Andy Reid has been asked this several times now - after Sunday's impressive, 31-17 Eagles victory over Atlanta, on Monday, and again yesterday. Reid, who confirmed Kolb definitely will start again, as Vick recovers from a rib-cartilage injury, still hasn't given anything close to a "yes" or "no" answer.

"I haven't even thought about that," Reid said yesterday. "We're worried about Tennessee right now and we're not worried about starting jobs. You guys can worry about all that. We're worried right now about trying to put together a game plan, learn the game plan and execute the game plan. That's what I think Kevin is focused in on; that's what we're focused in on as coaches."

Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles...l#ixzz12zZeaMwu

 
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Hipple said:
You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. Reid has repeatedly said Vick Kolb is the starter and will be once he's healthy.
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Fixed from Week 1-2 Reid comments. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. We'll see how this fiasco plays out.

 
Saint said:
Hipple said:
You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. Reid has repeatedly said Vick Kolb is the starter and will be once he's healthy.
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Fixed from Week 1-2 Reid comments. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. We'll see how this fiasco plays out.
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One thing Eagles fans have learned over the years is not to trust what Reid says. You watch what he does. And what he's doing right now is side stepping the question. He could have put the entire thing to rest by saying "Vick is my starter". He didn't. The other thing Reid is doing right now is allowing Kolb another start, even though Vick has practiced this week and appears healthy. A true number 1 QB would start this week and Kolb would be back on the sideline. Kolb played his way into this start. Another strong performance and I don't see how he loses the job for week 9.Since the offseason, we've seen:

McNabb traded and Kolb declared the starter

Went through training camp and pre season and Kolb is the starter

KK gets hurt, Vick steps in, Reid declares Kolb is still the starter

Next day, Reid does and about-face and names Vick the starter

Vick gets hurt and its back to Kolb - who plays some of his best ball yet.

Reid says having 2 QB's is a nice problem

Reid says "I'm not getting into all that" when asked who his week 9 starter is

And those are facts, not opinions. My opinion is the QB situation isn't very clear.

 
the whole situation is pretty transparent imo

reid has wanted to play kolb all along.

the front office was horrified by what they saw in kolb and the team in week 1 so they force reid to roll with vick.

now the front office starting to buy into kolb but the leash is probably short.

 
Vick is undeniably playing the best football of his career....yet is in a dogfight for the job with a kid who has 5 career starts????????

Sorry...but the answer for the Eagles should be pretty obvious. If the O-Line can provide even mediocre pass protection, Kolb is the man. If it can't, then throw Vick out there and protect the young passing star....(and that's Kolb.)

 
CaptainHook said:
the whole situation is pretty transparent imoreid has wanted to play kolb all along.the front office was horrified by what they saw in kolb and the team in week 1 so they force reid to roll with vick.now the front office starting to buy into kolb but the leash is probably short.
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I think you're on the right track here. Kolb will remain the starter, but have a short leash.
 
This will be Kolbs team the rest of the way unless Kolb gets hurt. Andy be crazzy to go back to Vick Kolb was the plan for this team for years let him in and NO WILDCAT CRAP..Kolb will do fine

 
Love the bickering in this thread. Kolb owner claims/Vick owner sez/Reid noncommitted. I own both in my 2 money leagues and could surely use a roster spot. I only hope that a clear direction can be established. Truth is NO-ONE knows, however at this time tomorrow I'd bet things will have become alot more clear.

 
wlwiles said:
renesauz said:
Vick is undeniably playing the best football of his career....yet is in a dogfight for the job with a kid who has 5 career starts????????
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Wasn't intentional....didn't even realize the "joke" until after I posted. Could have edited it, but it didn't seem all that bad... "in a dogfight" is a much older expression than the Vick story, and was/is the perfect euphamism, or would be if not for Vick's specific history. Isn't that expression referring to WWII flying aces??????There is a bigger point here though...how often does a multi-time pro bowl QB, playing arguably his best football ever, find himself in serious competition with a QB who has less then half a season's worth of starts?

Kevin Kolb is for real, no matter what happens the rest of this year.

 
I think Kolb should be the starter. He was dubbed the future, & should be given the chance. With as well as he has played, against MUCH better teams than Vick played, if they go back to Vick now it shows a lack of faith in Kolb for the future.

If you go back to Vick now, then you better be resigning him for the future. That is how I am personally looking at this decision...they both played well, Andy must decide on the future.

 
Domination said:
I think Kolb should be the starter. He was dubbed the future, & should be given the chance. With as well as he has played, against MUCH better teams than Vick played, if they go back to Vick now it shows a lack of faith in Kolb for the future.If you go back to Vick now, then you better be resigning him for the future. That is how I am personally looking at this decision...they both played well, Andy must decide on the future.
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Spoken like a true Kolb owner. :boxing:
 
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Kolbs play has locked him up the backup qb job. If he would have tanked bad he could have been demoted to 3rd string, so his decent play has solidified his job as mikes backup.

 
moderated said:
Kolbs play has locked him up the backup qb job. If he would have tanked bad he could have been demoted to 3rd string, so his decent play has solidified his job as mikes backup.
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lol. they were never going to give the backup job to mike kafka.for those who think kolb is the 'future' and that means play him after the bye, the future is not what you play for. ... you play to win the game that week.
 
Kolb underthrew way too many passes (so did Collins). I wasn't there ... if Andy blames the wind for those underthrown balls then I think there's still a chance Kolb starts in Week 9. I don't know. Wind, no DeSean Jackson. I can see AR making excuses.

That said, I think Kolb was average at best today and I'd go back to Vick.

 
bweiser said:
That said, I think Kolb was average at best today and I'd go back to Vick.
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He was nowhere near average. 26/48 - below average. 4.8 ypc - below average. 2 int - below average. 1 TD - below average.That is a pathetic stat line. Yes. maybe it was the wind and missing jackson is huge, but he had a terrible day.
 
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