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Video games...what ya playing? And what are you looking forward to? (2 Viewers)

Crap. I wonder how many Marriage Points I'll lose when I buy this game on Day 1.
Yeah, I'm screwed too. Not sure how I'll explain buying this when I have Fallout 3 GOTY, Witcher 2, and Kingdoms of Amalur sitting untouched.
Luckily for me my wife is cool with my gaming. I wish I could find more games that are the type we could both play. She likes games where I handle the killing and she gets to do the exploring, then she follows the dead bodies to where I am. The Serious Sam PC series was great for that.
My wife is like this, too. She games as much as me, in fact (she generally likes turn-based RPG's and similar - she likes the Animal Crossing series, too, and is juiced for the new one next week.)

IIRC, you don't have kids either. Another point for the childfree - none of this "when she lets me game" stuff.
It does have some upside.

 
Buddy Ball 2K3 said:
Yeah, i was going to post this if it wasn't already. I haven't seen a game get a perfect score from them in a while. Almost too bad this game wasn't targeted to a PS4 launch. Something this well rated could have made a difference in the next gen war. Either way, glad it looks as good as I was hoping. I probably won't get it for 6 months or so as i like to let prices drop, but i'll be playing this at some point.

 
Bioshock & Bioshock 2 for PC download on sale at gamefly for $4.99

ETA: $4.99 for both

 
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I mentioned this before, but i'm also interested in State of Decay. The review just came out today. Looks pretty damn fun, it's another zombie game, but it's more the survival, build your group, supply them, fortify a base camp type stuff. Looks fun to me. IGN did some let's play's on it, and it looks good. it's a Xbox download or pc game. i think i'll want to do this one on xbox.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/05/state-of-decay-review

 
Apparently there were different teams at Naughty Dog, one doing Uncharted 2 and another doing Uncharted 3.

The team that did U2 is the one that did Last Of Us. Which is awesome because U2 is...awesome.

 
I mentioned this before, but i'm also interested in State of Decay. The review just came out today. Looks pretty damn fun, it's another zombie game, but it's more the survival, build your group, supply them, fortify a base camp type stuff. Looks fun to me. IGN did some let's play's on it, and it looks good. it's a Xbox download or pc game. i think i'll want to do this one on xbox.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/05/state-of-decay-review
I'm intrigued.

 
Killzone 3. Never played them before and started hearing about Killzone 4 for PS4. Not bad! Me and the old lady love the first person shooter co-ops.

 
I knew I bought the wrong system a couple years ago. Last of Us looks like my perfect game.
I never thought it would happen but PS3 has actually outsold the 360 in lifetime sales.
Wow! you've got to be kidding me. I prefer PS3 myself, have both though, but i figured since it was out longer, and it always seems to be the more popuar option, that 360 would be 2x the sales of the ps3.
Not surprisingat all. Massive gaming culture in Asia and few people over there care about xbox.

 
I knew I bought the wrong system a couple years ago. Last of Us looks like my perfect game.
I never thought it would happen but PS3 has actually outsold the 360 in lifetime sales.
Wow! you've got to be kidding me. I prefer PS3 myself, have both though, but i figured since it was out longer, and it always seems to be the more popuar option, that 360 would be 2x the sales of the ps3.
Not surprisingat all. Massive gaming culture in Asia and few people over there care about xbox.
Yeah, that's true, wasn't thinking internal. Wonder what the numbers would be just here in the US. I'm sure i could look it up... just probably not going to.

 
I knew I bought the wrong system a couple years ago. Last of Us looks like my perfect game.
I never thought it would happen but PS3 has actually outsold the 360 in lifetime sales.
Wow! you've got to be kidding me. I prefer PS3 myself, have both though, but i figured since it was out longer, and it always seems to be the more popuar option, that 360 would be 2x the sales of the ps3.
It's by 2000 units. In fact until at least Jan of this year PS3 was still behind. And Wii kills both of them

 
I mentioned this before, but i'm also interested in State of Decay. The review just came out today. Looks pretty damn fun, it's another zombie game, but it's more the survival, build your group, supply them, fortify a base camp type stuff. Looks fun to me. IGN did some let's play's on it, and it looks good. it's a Xbox download or pc game. i think i'll want to do this one on xbox.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/05/state-of-decay-review
interesting, thanks
 
I wish my g/f liked to play video games with me.
It is actually pretty cool. I will be out in front killing everything while my wife tries to find whatever goodies are scattered in the area or amongst the bodies. She is a lot better at it than I am as it kills her to miss anything. Me as long as I am getting the best guns and ammo I am happy. I love a good old fashioned shoot'em up.
 
yea, their review made me pause a bit. The flaws they point out are things that typically irk me, especially in a tense game like this.

 
yea, their review made me pause a bit. The flaws they point out are things that typically irk me, especially in a tense game like this.
With the caveat that I'm very much looking forward to this game, the Gamespot review reads a little more objective. The IGN review is just an unadulterated love fest.

 
Lynch them obviously.

Seriously though the game looks amazing, but one reviewer said it was the Citizen Kane of video games.

The hype might be too out of control.

 
Lynch them obviously.Seriously though the game looks amazing, but one reviewer said it was the Citizen Kane of video games.

The hype might be too out of control.
It should be noted that this reviewer for GameSpot schtick is to play devils advocate during some of his reviews. In fact a couple of years ago, he got tagged with the nickname "The most hated man in gaming" for botching a review of a Zelda game.

This is his tag line on his reviews:

Tom Mc Shea loves platformers and weighty moral decisions. Some call him a T-Rex with bigger arms, some call him a gorilla with smaller arms -- you can just call him the jerk who hates all the things you love and loves all the things you hate.

 
I'd rather have a game with a great story and okay mechanics than great mechanics and an okay story.

The characters sound interesting and believable in LoU.

 
I'd rather have a game with a great story and okay mechanics than great mechanics and an okay story.

The characters sound interesting and believable in LoU.
I'm sure the mechanics are fine. The stuff that the guy is complaining about in the Gamespot review -- enemies sometimes not noticing friendly NPCs or bodies, doors that you can't open until you've cleared a room, etc. -- are all pretty standard features in video games dictated by gameplay considerations. Criticizing an action game for not allowing you to leave an area until after you've accomplished some objective is kind of like criticizing a shooter for having a suspicious amount of waist-high cover conveniently located near the player. That reads like somebody who's just looking for stuff to criticize.

 
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The only drawback that I can see is that it might end up being a grind to get through. Probably not a game that should/will be played too quickly by me.

That was the main criticism I had with Bioshock: Infinite. It looked cool, the story was okay, and it played fine. But it just wasn't very fun for some reason. By the time it was over, I was ready for it to be.

 
Anyone still use goozex? I logged into my account after a fairly long hiatus, knowing I had some points/tokens, but it looks like the point system changed. Everything used to be ~1000 pts max (new game) but now things are way different (higher). However, my point balance didn't increase to offset that change. Any input?

eta - nevermind, I found it... looks like they gave me a couple tokens, but my 1300 points are now half as valuable as they were before. :thumbdown:

 
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The only drawback that I can see is that it might end up being a grind to get through.
This is my concern too. It looks like many of the non-gaga reviews (the ones that had the balls to rate it an 8/10 instead of a 10/10) have chiefly the same underlying point, which is that it's not particularly "fun" (even if some use that as a positive descriptor). I appreciate a great story, but with so much of it now available via other mediums (TV and movies finally heading in that direction), I'm not sure I'm willing to endure a 20 hour grind to get to the 1 hours worth of good story material.

I'm sure the game is very rewarding, but with my gaming time being so limited I'm not sure I'm willing to devote hours of grinding to get to the point unless that grinding is fun in and of itself. Polygon review:

The Last of Us mines the same post-apocalyptic scenario as dozens of other games, but its approach is starkly its own. It paints a vision of a near-future that is cold, heartless and, in many cases, downright evil. It's not a fun place to be, and likewise, the game isn't really a fun thing to play.Developer Naughty Dog's commitment to this dark, depressing tone is alternately impressive and frustrating. The Last of Us actively fought any enjoyment I might have gained from it — from its oppressive world to its inconsistent mechanics. Being anything but fun might be the point, but The Last of Us doesn't always make that point gracefully.
Kotaku review:

Well-made and satisfying though it may be, The Last of Us is emphatically not a "fun" game. It is, in fact, a fine example of just how useless that descriptor has become. The Last of Us is a brutally violent, often horrifying, emotionally exhausting piece of work. It may not have the over-the-top gore of other more cartoonish video games, but its violence has a core of savagery that can be deeply chilling.
Giant Bomb review:

The Last of Us is a bold work, especially for a developer recently known for strapping us into cinematic roller coasters. The Last of Us is not fun, at least not in the traditional sense, and that's exactly why it's so interesting.
Gamespot review:

The Last of Us stretches on for hours, forcing you to endure the suffocating atmosphere and unrelenting despair that citizens of this world have become accustomed to.
 
This doesn't sound like my kind of game at all. I enjoy a good story but mostly if I can navigate some part of it based on my choices. I also didn't like 'the road' at all. Left me very depressed. I don't think ill be playing this one.

 
Crap. I wonder how many Marriage Points I'll lose when I buy this game on Day 1.
Yeah, I'm screwed too. Not sure how I'll explain buying this when I have Fallout 3 GOTY, Witcher 2, and Kingdoms of Amalur sitting untouched.
God Bless having a great, wonderful wife (who also is a gamer).
I made my wife sound nasty with that post and that's not the case at all. She's actually awesome about my gaming and never gives me crap about buying stuff. I'm just sure her eyes will be rolling a bit when i come home with this while I have all those others already waiting on the shelf. Hell, MY eyes will be rolling a bit when i do it.

 
The only drawback that I can see is that it might end up being a grind to get through.
This is my concern too. It looks like many of the non-gaga reviews (the ones that had the balls to rate it an 8/10 instead of a 10/10) have chiefly the same underlying point, which is that it's not particularly "fun" (even if some use that as a positive descriptor). I appreciate a great story, but with so much of it now available via other mediums (TV and movies finally heading in that direction), I'm not sure I'm willing to endure a 20 hour grind to get to the 1 hours worth of good story material. I'm sure the game is very rewarding, but with my gaming time being so limited I'm not sure I'm willing to devote hours of grinding to get to the point unless that grinding is fun in and of itself.
I think you may be confused about what kind of game it is. From what I've read, it takes less than 20 hours to complete the entire game/story, it's certainly not a '20 hour grind to get 1 hour worth of story material' RPG/MMO type game. I'm guessing it's pretty similar to the Uncharted games as far as story/grinding goes, as in there'll be lots of story and the only grinding there is occurs on the two hardest difficulty settings.
 
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Lynch them obviously.Seriously though the game looks amazing, but one reviewer said it was the Citizen Kane of video games.

The hype might be too out of control.
It should be noted that this reviewer for GameSpot schtick is to play devils advocate during some of his reviews. In fact a couple of years ago, he got tagged with the nickname "The most hated man in gaming" for botching a review of a Zelda game.

This is his tag line on his reviews:

Tom Mc Shea loves platformers and weighty moral decisions. Some call him a T-Rex with bigger arms, some call him a gorilla with smaller arms -- you can just call him the jerk who hates all the things you love and loves all the things you hate.
I prefer that - what good is seeing "10/10 - best ever!!!" There's not one thing you'd change? Really? I remember Grand Theft Auto 4 getting huge reviews and it was so boring compared to the older ones.
 
I prefer that - what good is seeing "10/10 - best ever!!!" There's not one thing you'd change? Really? I remember Grand Theft Auto 4 getting huge reviews and it was so boring compared to the older ones.
Ordinarily I would give this a :goodposting: . GTA4 had some serious, glaring gameplay errors (e.g. repetitive missions, horrible checkpointing, "friends" that keep pestering you to play darts with them when all you want to do is kills some hookers, etc.) that reviewers simply ignored when they were handing out 10s. That game is the poster child for why we all need to take game reviews with a huge grain of salt. Usually I wait on SP games until they've been out for at least a week or so to see what user reviews are like. Those are much more reliable that reviews in the gaming media.

But Naughty Dog is 3 for 3 this generation and I'm a little more inclined to see the 8/10s as being cries for attention. I'm preordering regardless.

 
It's not like GTA IV was terrible, it had it's flaws sure, but it was still outstanding when compared to just about any other game out there. Even if it was mediocre by GTA standards, it was still tremendous by gaming standards, and easily worth an 9/10 or 8/10 at least. So even if you pre-ordered that game based on the 10's, it's not like you still didn't get a very good game.

 
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It's not like GTA IV was terrible, it had it's flaws sure, but it was still outstanding when compared to just about any other game out there. Even if it was mediocre by GTA standards, it was still tremendous by gaming standards, and easily worth an 9/10 or 8/10 at least. So even if you pre-ordered that game based on the 10's, it's not like you still didn't get a very good game.
That's not my point though, my point is what good is a subjective rating system where everything scores a 9 or 10? Suddenly all these games are perfect? I have no doubts that this game in particular will be very good, but if there are any flaws they need to be noted or you're deceiving people. It doesn't mean you don't give it a 9.5 or a 9.0, but every big game that comes out gets a huge score now.
 
Time Kibitzer said:
It's not like GTA IV was terrible, it had it's flaws sure, but it was still outstanding when compared to just about any other game out there. Even if it was mediocre by GTA standards, it was still tremendous by gaming standards, and easily worth an 9/10 or 8/10 at least. So even if you pre-ordered that game based on the 10's, it's not like you still didn't get a very good game.
It wasn't terrible, no, but most reviews made it sound like the greatest game of all time. It wasn't even the best GTA of all time.

 
bigmarc27 said:
Time Kibitzer said:
It's not like GTA IV was terrible, it had it's flaws sure, but it was still outstanding when compared to just about any other game out there. Even if it was mediocre by GTA standards, it was still tremendous by gaming standards, and easily worth an 9/10 or 8/10 at least. So even if you pre-ordered that game based on the 10's, it's not like you still didn't get a very good game.
That's not my point though, my point is what good is a subjective rating system where everything scores a 9 or 10? Suddenly all these games are perfect? I have no doubts that this game in particular will be very good, but if there are any flaws they need to be noted or you're deceiving people. It doesn't mean you don't give it a 9.5 or a 9.0, but every big game that comes out gets a huge score now.
I wish one publication would have a average rating of like a 6.5 with a 5 starting the "bad game" reviews. Then a 8.5+ on very few games would actually mean something.
 
bigmarc27 said:
Time Kibitzer said:
It's not like GTA IV was terrible, it had it's flaws sure, but it was still outstanding when compared to just about any other game out there. Even if it was mediocre by GTA standards, it was still tremendous by gaming standards, and easily worth an 9/10 or 8/10 at least. So even if you pre-ordered that game based on the 10's, it's not like you still didn't get a very good game.
That's not my point though, my point is what good is a subjective rating system where everything scores a 9 or 10? Suddenly all these games are perfect? I have no doubts that this game in particular will be very good, but if there are any flaws they need to be noted or you're deceiving people. It doesn't mean you don't give it a 9.5 or a 9.0, but every big game that comes out gets a huge score now.
If that sort of thing bothers you (and it can for me as well), I'd say just find one or two reviewing sources that you trust and find yourself generally agreeing with more often than not, and just follow them exclusively. Personally I really like Adam Sessler at Rev3Games, he's intelligent, not afraid to criticize big blockbuster games, and he shares my value of caring about story more than most reviewers seem to. In

he points out how the enemy AI can sometimes completely ignore your friendly AI in favour of focusing in on you exclusively and how that can can break the illusion in the moment, but overall it seems to be a minor quibble when everything else is done so well.
 
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Another great Humble Bundle weekly deal - pay more than the average (currently $3.85) and get the entire Serious Sam library. All activate on Steam. $4 for all of those is a steal. Man, the Humble Bundle is going to make the Steam Summer Sale seem lackluster. :bag: Last week, all those episodic games including Walking Dead. . . :nerd:

 
bigmarc27 said:
Time Kibitzer said:
It's not like GTA IV was terrible, it had it's flaws sure, but it was still outstanding when compared to just about any other game out there. Even if it was mediocre by GTA standards, it was still tremendous by gaming standards, and easily worth an 9/10 or 8/10 at least. So even if you pre-ordered that game based on the 10's, it's not like you still didn't get a very good game.
That's not my point though, my point is what good is a subjective rating system where everything scores a 9 or 10? Suddenly all these games are perfect? I have no doubts that this game in particular will be very good, but if there are any flaws they need to be noted or you're deceiving people. It doesn't mean you don't give it a 9.5 or a 9.0, but every big game that comes out gets a huge score now.
If that sort of thing bothers you (and it can for me as well), I'd say just find one or two reviewing sources that you trust and find yourself generally agreeing with more often than not, and just follow them exclusively. Personally I really like Adam Sessler at Rev3Games, he's intelligent, not afraid to criticize big blockbuster games, and he shares my value of caring about story more than most reviewers seem to. In

different strokes, I guess. See, for me, that flaw is HUGE, especially in a tense / quieter action game like this - I almost don't care how well everything else is done.

I'm a pretty big fan of Gamespot - I agree with them more often than not, and more importantly, I appreciate them finding the little flaws. To me, IGN has always been a joke.

In terms of review scores, it's really more fanboy stuff than anything - 8.0 is a fine score, but it's not good enough for the fanboys.

 
IGN is plastered with game advertisements the second you enter their site. Of course they will be biased towards the big AAA games; thats who is paying their bills these days.

 
bigmarc27 said:
Lynch them obviously.Seriously though the game looks amazing, but one reviewer said it was the Citizen Kane of video games.

The hype might be too out of control.
It should be noted that this reviewer for GameSpot schtick is to play devils advocate during some of his reviews.In fact a couple of years ago, he got tagged with the nickname "The most hated man in gaming" for botching a review of a Zelda game.

This is his tag line on his reviews:

Tom Mc Shea loves platformers and weighty moral decisions. Some call him a T-Rex with bigger arms, some call him a gorilla with smaller arms -- you can just call him the jerk who hates all the things you love and loves all the things you hate.
I prefer that - what good is seeing "10/10 - best ever!!!" There's not one thing you'd change? Really? I remember Grand Theft Auto 4 getting huge reviews and it was so boring compared to the older ones.
Same, throwing around 10 out of 10s like it doesn't mean absolutely flawless is setting a standard that the video game industry doesn't need. They can barely handle game reviews now, with such generic and vanilla commentary and absolutely horrible rating systems they are almost pushing you towards indie game reviewers.

 
bigmarc27 said:
It's not like GTA IV was terrible, it had it's flaws sure, but it was still outstanding when compared to just about any other game out there. Even if it was mediocre by GTA standards, it was still tremendous by gaming standards, and easily worth an 9/10 or 8/10 at least. So even if you pre-ordered that game based on the 10's, it's not like you still didn't get a very good game.
That's not my point though, my point is what good is a subjective rating system where everything scores a 9 or 10? Suddenly all these games are perfect? I have no doubts that this game in particular will be very good, but if there are any flaws they need to be noted or you're deceiving people. It doesn't mean you don't give it a 9.5 or a 9.0, but every big game that comes out gets a huge score now.
If that sort of thing bothers you (and it can for me as well), I'd say just find one or two reviewing sources that you trust and find yourself generally agreeing with more often than not, and just follow them exclusively. Personally I really like Adam Sessler at Rev3Games, he's intelligent, not afraid to criticize big blockbuster games, and he shares my value of caring about story more than most reviewers seem to. In

Indeed. Most non-RPG games don't even draw me into the illusion in the moment at any point in a playthrough. Having incidences where that illusion is broke at least implies I was there to begin with. Having said that, since I don't really care about the online play for this sort of game, I'll probably still be waiting til the price drops to $30 as I do for all single player games.

 
So what games would you guys consider 10's?

Are there any? Is there such a thing as a flawless game?

The only one I can think of is Knights of the Old Republic. Maybe Uncharted 2.

 

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