Vikings after Brady Quinn? (1 Viewer)

[jeter23]

The word around the NFL is that the Vikings are going to pay a lot of attention to Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn at the NFL scouting combine, which started on Wednesday in Indianapolis. Quinn is likely to be one of the players the Vikings will interview to try to find out what makes him tick. If Quinn makes a great impression at Indy and in further workouts, it might be difficult for the Vikings to pass over him if he is available with the No. 7 overall pick.

http://www.startribune.com/507/story/1017137.html

 

[Vikes Fan]

They may be interested, yes, but do not think that interviewing him may not be smoke and mirrors. As I recall, they never interviewed Greenway last year and tried to make it look as though they were interested in other players. Chilli likes to play games.

P.S. The article is by Sid Hartman...not exactly the most reliable sourse ever.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

As a Vikings fan and Quinn believer, I would welcome this selection.

 

[Chaser1439]

As a Dolphins fan I hate this news since the phins have 8th pick. Add something else to your terrible team besides a QB VIKINGS!!!!

 

[Scooby]

As a Vikings fan and Quinn believer, I would welcome this selection.

As a vikings fan also, i would like them to help other areas and if need be, bring in a veteran qb to help tavaris along. I like his arm strength and think he can be a decent qb down the road with a full offseason trainings.I think they go somewhere else than qb

 

[Andy Dufresne]

As a Vikings fan and Quinn believer, I would welcome this selection.

As a vikings fan also, i would like them to help other areas and if need be, bring in a veteran qb to help tavaris along. I like his arm strength and think he can be a decent qb down the road with a full offseason trainings.I think they go somewhere else than qb

For their needs, the #7 spot is a crappy spot.

 

[TeamDingo]

As a Dolphins fan I hate this news since the phins have 8th pick. Add something else to your terrible team besides a QB VIKINGS!!!!

I would welcome a trade with the Dolphins for thier #1 and another pick( 3rd/4th)... I think the phins have the #9

 

[Vikes Fan]

I would like to see them go either up or down. Trade up and get Johnson or trade down for more picks. I really think 7 is a dead spot this year.

 

[Scooby]

I would like to see them go either up or down. Trade up and get Johnson or trade down for more picks. I really think 7 is a dead spot this year.

I like the move up idea t..

 

[Getinthemix]

As a Dolphins fan I hate this news since the phins have 8th pick. Add something else to your terrible team besides a QB VIKINGS!!!!

Houston picks 8th, Miami picks 9th

 

[MelKiperJr]

I don't think he will fall that far --- I can't see him lasting that long

 

[Beaumont]

What better way to get good trade down value is Quinn really does fall that far ...

You gotta make them believe you may take him ...

 

[TheFanatic]

What better way to get good trade down value is Quinn really does fall that far ...You gotta make them believe you may take him ...

 

[Andy Dufresne]

What better way to get good trade down value is Quinn really does fall that far ...You gotta make them believe you may take him ...

The Vikes fooled the Dolphins a couple years ago. Traded down one spot, still got the guy they wanted (Udeze) and ended up with an extra 4th rounder they used on Mewelde Moore.

 

[BigJim®]

Just as I feared. The only rational interpretation for this story is: Childress' ego is so adamant about standing by Tarvaris that he's willing to leak misinformation that the team is looking at Quinn.

 

[Football Jones]

In this day & age of the salary cap, you give your 2nd round QB (Tarvaris Jackson) an oppurtunity to be the guy. No way they take a QB. BLUFF.

 

[BigJim®]

What better way to get good trade down value is Quinn really does fall that far ...You gotta make them believe you may take him ...

Understood. The only problem with this is they probably should take Quinn if certain other prospects are off the board. They only have an unseasoned 1AA prospect and Brooks Bollinger in the cupboard. That they're willing to leak this 'interest' suggests to me it's not even being considered. Frankly, they'd be better off remaining silent, as other teams might assume QB is a legit Viking area of need until they read this sort of misinformation. I say this because other teams are less delusional than the Vikes front office appears to be with regard to this gaping hole in the Vikings roster.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

In this day & age of the salary cap, you give your 2nd round QB (Tarvaris Jackson) an oppurtunity to be the guy. No way they take a QB. BLUFF.

How so?

 

[Vikes Fan]

What better way to get good trade down value is Quinn really does fall that far ...You gotta make them believe you may take him ...

Understood. The only problem with this is they probably should take Quinn if certain other prospects are off the board. They only have an unseasoned 1AA prospect and Brooks Bollinger in the cupboard. That they're willing to leak this 'interest' suggests to me it's not even being considered. Frankly, they'd be better off remaining silent, as other teams might assume QB is a legit Viking area of need until they read this sort of misinformation. I say this because other teams are less delusional than the Vikes front office appears to be with regard to this gaping hole in the Vikings roster.

I am personally not sold on Quinn as an NFL QB. So, I am not in favor of drafting him, but would instead like to see them bring in somebody else. I think Jackson needs another year or two to watch and learn, and I hate that Bollinger is even considered as our QB. Yuck. So, as frustrating as watching vetern Brad Johnson was last year, I would rather they went a similar route for another year or two. After spending a 2nd rounder on Jackson, I think him being the eventual starter is inevidable. I just do not think it should be this year.

 

[Football Jones]

In this day & age of the salary cap, you give your 2nd round QB (Tarvaris Jackson) an oppurtunity to be the guy. No way they take a QB. BLUFF.

How so?

Why it's a bluff? I've already explained. Do you think taking Quinn at 7 would be a good move? I don't. Besides the fact I think he's overrated/overhyped, I like Jackson. I'm not a Vikes fan, but that's the way I see it.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Both the Vikings and Dolphins are a comedy show. Both teams traded a second round pick last year for a QB that has yet to see adequate time enough to make an evaluation, and still there is clamoring for another QB to be acquired one year later.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Both the Vikings and Dolphins are a comedy show. Both teams traded a second round pick last year for a QB that has yet to see adequate time enough to make an evaluation, and still there is clamoring for another QB to be acquired one year later.

The current Dolphins staff was not the one that gave up a 2nd for Culpepper.And the fans (some anyway), not the staff, are the ones clamoring for another QB.And the reason for the clamor is that Quinn is going to be better, from this point forward, than either Jackson or Culpepper.

 

[identikit]

Both the Vikings and Dolphins are a comedy show. Both teams traded a second round pick last year for a QB that has yet to see adequate time enough to make an evaluation, and still there is clamoring for another QB to be acquired one year later.

The current Dolphins staff was not the one that gave up a 2nd for Culpepper.And the fans (some anyway), not the staff, are the ones clamoring for another QB.And the reason for the clamor is that Quinn is going to be better, from this point forward, than either Jackson or Culpepper.

Andy,So do you think Jackson is worth hanging onto on a FF team?Id

 

[Andy Dufresne]

In this day & age of the salary cap, you give your 2nd round QB (Tarvaris Jackson) an oppurtunity to be the guy. No way they take a QB. BLUFF.

How so?

Why it's a bluff? I've already explained. Do you think taking Quinn at 7 would be a good move? I don't. Besides the fact I think he's overrated/overhyped, I like Jackson. I'm not a Vikes fan, but that's the way I see it.

I don't understand the reference to the salary cap. Are you saying if you can get a starting QB for cheap that you're ahead of the game?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Andy,So do you think Jackson is worth hanging onto on a FF team?Id

Dynasty? Absolutely. I think he has a chance, long term, to be pretty good. I'm debating this from a pure Vikings fan perspective. I don't like the team's chances if they go into NEXT season with Jackson as the starter. But Childress seems pretty adamant about making him work. Now as to the Childress offense, of THAT I'm not so sure.

 

[identikit]

Andy,So do you think Jackson is worth hanging onto on a FF team?Id

Dynasty? Absolutely. I think he has a chance, long term, to be pretty good. I'm debating this from a pure Vikings fan perspective. I don't like the team's chances if they go into NEXT season with Jackson as the starter. But Childress seems pretty adamant about making him work. Now as to the Childress offense, of THAT I'm not so sure.

Yes, dynasty...thanks, Andy for your take on things in Mn

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Yes, dynasty...thanks, Andy for your take on things in Mn

Just be sure to understand, that while my opinions are always forceful, they're not necessarily always right!

 

[Football Jones]

In this day & age of the salary cap, you give your 2nd round QB (Tarvaris Jackson) an oppurtunity to be the guy. No way they take a QB. BLUFF.

How so?

Why it's a bluff? I've already explained. Do you think taking Quinn at 7 would be a good move? I don't. Besides the fact I think he's overrated/overhyped, I like Jackson. I'm not a Vikes fan, but that's the way I see it.

I don't understand the reference to the salary cap. Are you saying if you can get a starting QB for cheap that you're ahead of the game?

Who can afford a 1st round QB after taking one the year before in the 2nd? Investing your cap space in a relative fashion is paramount, IMO. Besides that, forgetting the salary cap, I'm not sure why the Vikes wouldn't want to give their 2nd round QB a chance. They obviously thought very highly of him. Then they want to turn around & spend the 7th overall selection on another QB? I believe that would be poor draft management if that were to happen.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

As a Dolphins fan I hate this news since the phins have 8th pick. Add something else to your terrible team besides a QB VIKINGS!!!!

Houston picks 8th, Miami picks 9th

With Houston actively looking to deal away Carr,does anyone think a QB might be coming to the Texanswith their top pick , or will Jake Plummer be the answer ?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

In this day & age of the salary cap, you give your 2nd round QB (Tarvaris Jackson) an oppurtunity to be the guy. No way they take a QB. BLUFF.

How so?

Why it's a bluff? I've already explained. Do you think taking Quinn at 7 would be a good move? I don't. Besides the fact I think he's overrated/overhyped, I like Jackson. I'm not a Vikes fan, but that's the way I see it.

I don't understand the reference to the salary cap. Are you saying if you can get a starting QB for cheap that you're ahead of the game?

Who can afford a 1st round QB after taking one the year before in the 2nd? Investing your cap space in a relative fashion is paramount, IMO. Besides that, forgetting the salary cap, I'm not sure why the Vikes wouldn't want to give their 2nd round QB a chance. They obviously thought very highly of him. Then they want to turn around & spend the 7th overall selection on another QB? I believe that would be poor draft management if that were to happen.

2nd rounders are relatively cheap. Poor draft management is taking two QBs in the same draft, not successive years.

 

[phthalatemagic]

And the reason for the clamor is that Quinn is going to be better, from this point forward, than either Jackson or Culpepper.

So in theory, those teams could draft a QB in the first round every year for the next 10 years?

 

[Vikes Fan]

As a Dolphins fan I hate this news since the phins have 8th pick. Add something else to your terrible team besides a QB VIKINGS!!!!

Houston picks 8th, Miami picks 9th

With Houston actively looking to deal away Carr,does anyone think a QB might be coming to the Texanswith their top pick , or will Jake Plummer be the answer ?

They used a first rounder on Carr and that backfired. I think they have more pressing needs and probably do see Plummer as a viable option if released. I think the Texans are keeping their fingers crossed that A. Peterson falls in their laps.

 

[Football Jones]

In this day & age of the salary cap, you give your 2nd round QB (Tarvaris Jackson) an oppurtunity to be the guy. No way they take a QB. BLUFF.

How so?

Why it's a bluff? I've already explained. Do you think taking Quinn at 7 would be a good move? I don't. Besides the fact I think he's overrated/overhyped, I like Jackson. I'm not a Vikes fan, but that's the way I see it.

I don't understand the reference to the salary cap. Are you saying if you can get a starting QB for cheap that you're ahead of the game?

Who can afford a 1st round QB after taking one the year before in the 2nd? Investing your cap space in a relative fashion is paramount, IMO. Besides that, forgetting the salary cap, I'm not sure why the Vikes wouldn't want to give their 2nd round QB a chance. They obviously thought very highly of him. Then they want to turn around & spend the 7th overall selection on another QB? I believe that would be poor draft management if that were to happen.

2nd rounders are relatively cheap. Poor draft management is taking two QBs in the same draft, not successive years.

WAY disagree. Taking Quinn wouldn't make a whole lot of sense, IMO. We'll see.

 

[Z-Dog]

2nd-round picks don't get paid all that much - something like $1 million/year.

If Brady Quinn falls to seven, the Vikes really need to take him.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

And the reason for the clamor is that Quinn is going to be better, from this point forward, than either Jackson or Culpepper.

So in theory, those teams could draft a QB in the first round every year for the next 10 years?

I don't see how you deduce that from what I said.

 

[Vikes Fan]

2nd-round picks don't get paid all that much - something like $1 million/year. If Brady Quinn falls to seven, the Vikes really need to take him.

This would be true if they had any receivers to catch the ball. To me that is the most glaring need for the Vikings...not a QB. I think they should trade up for Johnson. Now, I don't think they will, but I think they should. (P.S. I am not a big Ted Ginn fan either. He is too raw and 7 would be way too high to take him.)

 

[Andy Dufresne]

2nd-round picks don't get paid all that much - something like $1 million/year. If Brady Quinn falls to seven, the Vikes really need to take him.

This would be true if they had any receivers to catch the ball. To me that is the most glaring need for the Vikings...not a QB. I think they should trade up for Johnson. Now, I don't think they will, but I think they should. (P.S. I am not a big Ted Ginn fan either. He is too raw and 7 would be way too high to take him.)

Of course. But if it's not Johnson, you don't take any other receiver in this draft at #7.

 

[Phurfur]

As a Vikings fan and Quinn believer, I would welcome this selection.

As a Packer Fan, I would welcome this selection. No way Quinn is worthy of a top 10 pick.

 

[Vikes Fan]

2nd-round picks don't get paid all that much - something like $1 million/year. If Brady Quinn falls to seven, the Vikes really need to take him.

This would be true if they had any receivers to catch the ball. To me that is the most glaring need for the Vikings...not a QB. I think they should trade up for Johnson. Now, I don't think they will, but I think they should. (P.S. I am not a big Ted Ginn fan either. He is too raw and 7 would be way too high to take him.)

Of course. But if it's not Johnson, you don't take any other receiver in this draft at #7.

Agreed. Then I trade down, and pray that a quality WR is available either there or early in the second. I like Jarrett later in round 1 or Gonzalez from The Ohio State (hopefully) in round 2.

 

[GregR_2]

As a Dolphins fan I hate this news since the phins have 8th pick. Add something else to your terrible team besides a QB VIKINGS!!!!

Houston picks 8th, Miami picks 9th

With Houston actively looking to deal away Carr,does anyone think a QB might be coming to the Texanswith their top pick , or will Jake Plummer be the answer ?

Even though I'm a life long ND fan, I'd rather get Plummer in free agency or trade a late 2nd day pick for him and use the 1st round pick on another position of need.I think Quinn will be a good QB, but the Texans have too many mediocre and below average starters and little to no depth at some positions. I'd rather have Plummer and a 1st round pick than Quinn, or than Quinn and a 4th/5th round guy. Not that I think Plummer is a long term solution, but I'm fine on waiting to get a franchise QB until the rest of the team is more solid. Especially the O-line and secondary.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Agreed. Then I trade down, and pray that a quality WR is available either there or early in the second. I like Jarrett later in round 1 or Gonzalez from The Ohio State (hopefully) in round 2.

There's a good half dozen guys that would be draftable in the latter half of the 1st/top of the 2nd.Johnny Lee HigginsDwayne BoweGonzalezJarrett (possibly)MeachemRice

 

[Vikes Fan]

Agreed. Then I trade down, and pray that a quality WR is available either there or early in the second. I like Jarrett later in round 1 or Gonzalez from The Ohio State (hopefully) in round 2.

There's a good half dozen guys that would be draftable in the latter half of the 1st/top of the 2nd.Johnny Lee HigginsDwayne BoweGonzalezJarrett (possibly)MeachemRice

Regardless, I think 7 is a dead spot and that we should jockey out of it any way we can.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Agreed. Then I trade down, and pray that a quality WR is available either there or early in the second. I like Jarrett later in round 1 or Gonzalez from The Ohio State (hopefully) in round 2.

There's a good half dozen guys that would be draftable in the latter half of the 1st/top of the 2nd.Johnny Lee HigginsDwayne BoweGonzalezJarrett (possibly)MeachemRice

Regardless, I think 7 is a dead spot and that we should jockey out of it any way we can.

Yes.

 

[Bob_Magaw]

is #7 really such a bad spot given their needs?

i like the DE from arkansas (anderson?) better than gaines... if he were there, they could pair him with erasmus james (assuming he rounding into form)... udeze looks like a bust... if anderson is as good as advertised, they could have makings of a dominant DL with williams bros on the inside...

isn't safety thought of as a need in MIN... i thought dwight smith was at risk of being cut as he was a disappointment, & sharper is on the decline... tank re-upped, but just for a year, & he can't be counted on with his evil knieval-esque medical file...

i've seen landry & nelson go as high as 10 & low as 20 in some mocks... i think in case of landry it could be closer to 10-15 (maybe nelson, too)... #7 might seem a bit high for a safety, but that is about where huff & whitner went last year (whitner made a lot of all rookie teams)... not sure huff is a far better prospect than landry, a four year starter at LSU, with ball skills that can hit & NFL bloodlines (far more highly regarded player than his brother dawan, who made an impact on playoff team ravens)...

if landry grades out as 10th best prospect & they draft him at #7, is that really such a huge reach?

 

[Vikes Fan]

is #7 really such a bad spot given their needs?i like the DE from arkansas (anderson?) better than gaines... if he were there, they could pair him with erasmus james (assuming he rounding into form)... udeze looks like a bust... if anderson is as good as advertised, they could have makings of a dominant DL with williams bros on the inside...isn't safety thought of as a need in MIN... i thought dwight smith was at risk of being cut as he was a disappointment, & sharper is on the decline... tank re-upped, but just for a year, & he can't be counted on with his evil knieval-esque medical file...i've seen landry & nelson go as high as 10 & low as 20 in some mocks... i think in case of landry it could be closer to 10-15 (maybe nelson, too)... #7 might seem a bit high for a safety, but that is about where huff & whitner went last year (whitner made a lot of all rookie teams)... not sure huff is a far better prospect than landry, a four year starter at LSU, with ball skills that can hit & NFL bloodlines (far more highly regarded player than his brother dawan, who made an impact on playoff team ravens)...if landry grades out as 10th best prospect & they draft him at #7, is that really such a huge reach?

Saftey is a need, but I don't think that high in the draft it would be a reach. Hopefully Tank can stay healthy and I think Sharper is good for another year or two. Plus I really like Greg Blue who they drafted last year. He is a big hitter and has played well in limited action.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

if landry grades out as 10th best prospect & they draft him at #7, is that really such a huge reach?

Not at all. In fact, I think the Vikings draft board probably looks something like this:1. Charles Johnson2. Jamaal Anderson3. Laron Landry4. Adrian Peterson5. Gaines Adams6. Brady QuinnI'd be fine with them taking Landry (or any one of the above). I'm not sure he's quite the prospect that Donte Whitner was for the Bills last year, but he's close. And they took him at #8(?) and he made a big impact on their defense.

 

[JohnnyU]

What better way to get good trade down value is Quinn really does fall that far ...You gotta make them believe you may take him ...

The Vikes fooled the Dolphins a couple years ago. Traded down one spot, still got the guy they wanted (Udeze) and ended up with an extra 4th rounder they used on Mewelde Moore.

From the looks of it they could have made better use of that 4th rd pick.

 

[Bob_Magaw]

if landry grades out as 10th best prospect & they draft him at #7, is that really such a huge reach?

Not at all. In fact, I think the Vikings draft board probably looks something like this:1. Charles Johnson2. Jamaal Anderson3. Laron Landry4. Adrian Peterson5. Gaines Adams6. Brady QuinnI'd be fine with them taking Landry (or any one of the above). I'm not sure he's quite the prospect that Donte Whitner was for the Bills last year, but he's close. And they took him at #8(?) and he made a big impact on their defense.

& whitner was considered a massive reach... there was pretty much a consensus that BUF made the biggest reach in first round (also with mccargo), & yet the front office was vindicated when whitner acquitted himself extremely well in his rookie season... without a doubt he was one of the top rookie DBs last season, & defenders overall (after usual suspects like ryans, sims, hawk, mark anderson)...

 

[BigJim®]

And the reason for the clamor is that Quinn is going to be better, from this point forward, than either Jackson or Culpepper.

So in theory, those teams could draft a QB in the first round every year for the next 10 years?

I don't see how you deduce that from what I said.

Frankly some of the posts in this thread scare me. If a team cannot re-evaluate it's QB situation simply because it is worried about the appearance it somewhat overpaid for a prospect in a prior draft, then God help us. This game changes year to year, and good teams do what it takes to better their chance to put a good product on the field. It's called "Best Player Available" drafting. QB is not a Viking strength by any stretch of the imagination, and the world won't end if the Vikings draft a guy who happens to prove to be a better QB option than Tarvaris. The Vikes are experts at wasting 2nd round picks, so this would hardly even be news to me. But the bottom line for me, even if Tarvaris Jackson wows coaches over the summer but <god forbid> breaks a leg in a preseason scrimmage, Brooks Bollinger is the guy for 2007 and a TBD journeyman would become his backup. That's absolutely laughable by NFL standards. Or conversely, if Brooks Bollinger is injured you are hopping on Tarvaris Jackson's shoulders for an experimental NFL season? I think people should be a tad more realistic here.

 

[jurb26]

And the reason for the clamor is that Quinn is going to be better, from this point forward, than either Jackson or Culpepper.

So in theory, those teams could draft a QB in the first round every year for the next 10 years?

I don't see how you deduce that from what I said.

Frankly some of the posts in this thread scare me. If a team cannot re-evaluate it's QB situation simply because it somewhat overpaid for a prospect in a prior draft, then God help us.

Your 1st sentance and 2nd sentance seem rather ironic to me. How can anyone possibly say at this moment in time that the Vikes overpaid for Jackson?