Vince Young...something big MIGHT BE going on (1 Viewer)

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

Rumors and speculation are flying in NashVegas here in the aftermath of VY's insolence on Sunday. Depression? Alcoholism? Despair at dealing with his long lst father who showed up not too long ago? Who the heck knows?

Then, word is, and I'm looking for a link, that last night Titans officials called the police in an effort to find him, he couldn't be contacted or found. They did finally find him and VY, police, and Fisher met at the Titans compound a little after midnight. Supposedly, this was filmed by a local news station. This may turn out to be NOTHING, but the police were called to help locate him and that is NOT normal and just shows that something bigger is going on.

Then, you have word that Dinger has been pushing for KFC (Kerry F Collins) for a while. Collins came into camp 15 pounds lighter and in great shape. (Did Dinger hint to him to be ready?)

Something, more than physical, is wrong. Maybe it all adds up to nothing...but there is a lot of smoke.

 

[Banger]

Rumors and speculation are flying in NashVegas here in the aftermath of VY's insolence on Sunday. Depression? Alcoholism? Despair at dealing with his long lst father who showed up not too long ago? Who the heck knows?Then, word is, and I'm looking for a link, that last night Titans officials called the police in an effort to find him, he couldn't be contacted or found. They did finally find him and VY, police, and Fisher met at the Titans compound a little after midnight. Supposedly, this was filmed by a local news station. This may turn out to be NOTHING, but the police were called to help locate him and that is NOT normal and just shows that something bigger is going on.Then, you have word that Dinger has been pushing for KFC (Kerry F Collins) for a while. Collins came into camp 15 pounds lighter and in great shape. (Did Dinger hint to him to be ready?)Something, more than physical, is wrong. Maybe it all adds up to nothing...but there is a lot of smoke.

Great post Weapons...something wierd is going on there and this doesn't really shock me. Sorry to hear if he's got personal problems but based on some of the rumors of depression, retirement, etc. and then his antics during the last game something just doesn't smell right. Thanks for the info....

 

[Bankerguy]

Holy crap.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Didn't he almost retire after his rookie season? Sounds like he has some depression or anxiety issues. He needs to get some help before he throws it all away.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

I want to be careful to say that I am only reporting the scuttlebutt. No proof of anything yet but I am hearing it from numerous places.

www.wkrn.com is the station that showed the video on TV this morning but it is not on their website yet. Just a short story/video about the talk on local sports talk yesterday.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

 

[Bankerguy]

I want to be careful to say that I am only reporting the scuttlebutt. No proof of anything yet but I am hearing it from numerous places.www.wkrn.com is the station that showed the video on TV this morning but it is not on their website yet. Just a short story/video about the talk on local sports talk yesterday.

You have a good track record with these kind of stories.We believe you, no need to apologize for posting what you heard.

 

[Angry Beavers]

oh boy.........

I hope on a personal level that VY is OK, but from a football point of view, is Tennessee better with Collins at the controls?

 

[oddball]

Wow

 

[benm3218]

I will add that I have it from a reliable source that McNair is in town... Don't crucify me or make fun of me. Take it for what its worth, but read between the lines.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I will add that I have it from a reliable source that McNair is in town... Don't crucify me or make fun of me. Take it for what its worth, but read between the lines.

McNair is a mentor and father figure to VY, so this makes complete sense. I don't think it has anything to do with McNair coming out of retirement.

 

[Tom in Albany]

This is why I read the Shark Pool. Nice job Weapons

 

[benm3218]

I will add that I have it from a reliable source that McNair is in town... Don't crucify me or make fun of me. Take it for what its worth, but read between the lines.

McNair is a mentor and father figure to VY, so this makes complete sense. I don't think it has anything to do with McNair coming out of retirement.

you may be surprised

 

[comfortably numb]

Rumors and speculation are flying in NashVegas here in the aftermath of VY's insolence on Sunday. Depression? Alcoholism? Despair at dealing with his long lst father who showed up not too long ago? Who the heck knows?Then, word is, and I'm looking for a link, that last night Titans officials called the police in an effort to find him, he couldn't be contacted or found. They did finally find him and VY, police, and Fisher met at the Titans compound a little after midnight. Supposedly, this was filmed by a local news station. This may turn out to be NOTHING, but the police were called to help locate him and that is NOT normal and just shows that something bigger is going on.Then, you have word that Dinger has been pushing for KFC (Kerry F Collins) for a while. Collins came into camp 15 pounds lighter and in great shape. (Did Dinger hint to him to be ready?)Something, more than physical, is wrong. Maybe it all adds up to nothing...but there is a lot of smoke.

Thanks for the info

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I'm not saying he's mentally ill but...

There are people who suffer from mental illnesses in all walks of life - doctors, lawyers, teachers, dock workers, etc. It shouldn't be terribly surprising when a professional athlete is revealed to have problems. It's shocking because we expect our sports heroes, especially football players, to be invincible.

If he is in trouble, I hope he finds help.

 

[[icon]]

I will add that I have it from a reliable source that McNair is in town... Don't crucify me or make fun of me. Take it for what its worth, but read between the lines.

McNair is a mentor and father figure to VY, so this makes complete sense. I don't think it has anything to do with McNair coming out of retirement.

you may be surprised

I don't know about all that. I gotta agree with bloom on this one. You can never completely rule anything out but I think Collins is the go to guy here and McNair is MOST LIKELY in town for an intervention.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Besides, if McNabb unretires, he's still a Raven. And if he comes back I doubt the Ravens, given their own QB situation, are going to trade him to the Titans.

 

[ShadowMaster]

I will add that I have it from a reliable source that McNair is in town... Don't crucify me or make fun of me. Take it for what its worth, but read between the lines.

McNair is a mentor and father figure to VY, so this makes complete sense. I don't think it has anything to do with McNair coming out of retirement.

you may be surprised

I don't know about all that. I gotta agree with bloom on this one. You can never completely rule anything out but I think Collins is the go to guy here and McNair is MOST LIKELY in town for an intervention.

The Ravens own the rights to McNair. He can't just unretire and sign with the Titans. The whole idea is a MAJOR reach.Besides, just because your QB didn't answer his cell phone does not mean he is depressed. Monday is a normal day off for pro players (who played Sunday), so this is hardly a big deal. I also doubt the police we involved with "finding him" as an adult person has to be missing over 48 hours before the police will get involved. Even for NFL QBs. The real question is what were the police doing at Titan team HQ and how is VY involved.

 

[comfortably numb]

I will add that I have it from a reliable source that McNair is in town... Don't crucify me or make fun of me. Take it for what its worth, but read between the lines.

McNair is a mentor and father figure to VY, so this makes complete sense. I don't think it has anything to do with McNair coming out of retirement.

you may be surprised

I don't know about all that. I gotta agree with bloom on this one. You can never completely rule anything out but I think Collins is the go to guy here and McNair is MOST LIKELY in town for an intervention.

The Ravens own the rights to McNair. He can't just unretire and sign with the Titans. The whole idea is a MAJOR reach.Besides, just because your QB didn't answer his cell phone does not mean he is depressed. Monday is a normal day off for pro players (who played Sunday), so this is hardly a big deal. I also doubt the police we involved with "finding him" as an adult person has to be missing over 48 hours before the police will get involved. Even for NFL QBs. The real question is what were the police doing at Titan team HQ and how is VY involved.

You may be right, it may be nothing.But I would disagree that the police would not get involved unless 48hours had passed.If it were you or me, yes.The starting QB of the Titans, I hardly think if anyone felt something eerie was going on, Fisher or the Titans would be told by the police they are not getting involved until 48 hours subside.

 

[benm3218]

I will add that I have it from a reliable source that McNair is in town... Don't crucify me or make fun of me. Take it for what its worth, but read between the lines.

McNair is a mentor and father figure to VY, so this makes complete sense. I don't think it has anything to do with McNair coming out of retirement.

you may be surprised

I don't know about all that. I gotta agree with bloom on this one. You can never completely rule anything out but I think Collins is the go to guy here and McNair is MOST LIKELY in town for an intervention.

The Ravens own the rights to McNair. He can't just unretire and sign with the Titans. The whole idea is a MAJOR reach.Besides, just because your QB didn't answer his cell phone does not mean he is depressed. Monday is a normal day off for pro players (who played Sunday), so this is hardly a big deal. I also doubt the police we involved with "finding him" as an adult person has to be missing over 48 hours before the police will get involved. Even for NFL QBs. The real question is what were the police doing at Titan team HQ and how is VY involved.

You may be right, it may be nothing.But I would disagree that the police would not get involved unless 48hours had passed.If it were you or me, yes.The starting QB of the Titans, I hardly think if anyone felt something eerie was going on, Fisher or the Titans would be told by the police they are not getting involved until 48 hours subside.

especially when depression is involved... bad things can happen quick.

 

[NY/NJMFDIVER]

Do the Ravens have the cap room to accomdate McNair if he unretired? Do they really want to upset their balance? At the very least, I could see Tennesee throwing them a 6th or a 7th rounder for Air if this is all true.

 

[Native]

http://www.wkrn.com/Global/story.asp?S=897...amp;nav=menu5_4

 

[comfortably numb]

I will add that I have it from a reliable source that McNair is in town... Don't crucify me or make fun of me. Take it for what its worth, but read between the lines.

McNair is a mentor and father figure to VY, so this makes complete sense. I don't think it has anything to do with McNair coming out of retirement.

you may be surprised

I don't know about all that. I gotta agree with bloom on this one. You can never completely rule anything out but I think Collins is the go to guy here and McNair is MOST LIKELY in town for an intervention.

The Ravens own the rights to McNair. He can't just unretire and sign with the Titans. The whole idea is a MAJOR reach.Besides, just because your QB didn't answer his cell phone does not mean he is depressed. Monday is a normal day off for pro players (who played Sunday), so this is hardly a big deal. I also doubt the police we involved with "finding him" as an adult person has to be missing over 48 hours before the police will get involved. Even for NFL QBs. The real question is what were the police doing at Titan team HQ and how is VY involved.

You may be right, it may be nothing.But I would disagree that the police would not get involved unless 48hours had passed.If it were you or me, yes.The starting QB of the Titans, I hardly think if anyone felt something eerie was going on, Fisher or the Titans would be told by the police they are not getting involved until 48 hours subside.

especially when depression is involved... bad things can happen quick.

Yep,I just think the celebrities live in another world with different rules.

 

[EBF]

For those of us who missed it, what were his "antics" during the game this weekend?

 

[benm3218]

He took himself out of the game and Fisher had to yell at him and send him back.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Other than Vince Young getting hurt, what happened with him? Did he have an incident on the sidelines?

I ask as many of us really try to stay away from Titans football. Thanks!

 

[Bizkiteer]

He took himself out of the game and Fisher had to yell at him and send him back.

I assume this was well before he got hurt, right?

 

[Afro Samurai]

That's the problem with cell phones. Everybody expects you to have it on you at all times and when you don't answer they start freaking out.

 

[benm3218]

He took himself out of the game and Fisher had to yell at him and send him back.

I assume this was well before he got hurt, right?

4 plays before he said he was done and fisher chewed him a new one and sent him out. He was quitting on the team...A lot going on here.

 

[dgreen]

That's the problem with cell phones. Everybody expects you to have it on you at all times and when you don't answer they start freaking out.

Pretty sure nobody has freaked out when they can't reach me. Pretty sure I haven't freaked out when my wife doesn't have her cell phone and I can't reach her. Why? Because there's no history to suggest worry about the situation. The article just linked says Young is fine and it was all nothing. But, they had a reason to worry. I assume that's because he's shown something in the past to cause them worry.

 

[Romofan]

PFT is saying it was a misunderstanding but it's still pretty crazy for a QB to want to pull himself out of a game because he was being booed after his INT....

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/09/09/...ared-for-young/

 

[Verbal Kint]

Besides, if McNabb unretires, he's still a Raven. And if he comes back I doubt the Ravens, given their own QB situation, are going to trade him to the Titans.

I assume you meant McNair. Or some other black QB with an Irish sounding name.

 

[Bizkiteer]

He took himself out of the game and Fisher had to yell at him and send him back.

I assume this was well before he got hurt, right?

4 plays before he said he was done and fisher chewed him a new one and sent him out. He was quitting on the team...A lot going on here.

Sounds a bit like a child playing pop warner football, Vince Young would appear to be young. I'd venture to say that he's not as mature as once thought.

 

[[icon]]

I ask as many of us really try to stay away from Titans football. Thanks!

Not a fan of watching a superior brand of football?

 

[Banger]

http://www.wkrn.com/Global/story.asp?S=897...amp;nav=menu5_4

Interesting article....Fisher is saying all the right things and trying to protect VY but there are certainly some deep issues that he's trying to keep internal. If a guy leaves his job and leaves his cell phone behind people don't ordinarily call the police and start a manhunt. Putting together the rumors in the past, he erratic behaviour during the game and then this there are a number of pieces that point to some possible mental issues (depression/anxiety/etc.). I suspect they'll get him the help he needs and hopefully he can work through his problems.

 

[IM666]

For those curious about the specifics, and would like to read previous articles discussing Vince Young and what occurred in the 4th quarter before his injury:

Link

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I'm a pretty big Titans and VY homer, but yesterday's game was pretty much the last straw for me. I was almost willing to sit through another year of VY struggles, given the fact that he's surrounded with pretty subpar talent at WR, and is learning Heimerdinger's new system. I mean, his win-loss record is pretty solid over the past 2 years. With the Titans D playing like it is, all we need is for VY to not lose the games for us.

I've never seen a QB act like he did yesterday after throwing that 2nd int. He slowly jogs off the field to a smattering of boos, and on the way gets an earful from Albert Haynesworth who, thanks to his INT, is now heading back on to the field. VY shoves fat albert, proceeds to the defensive side of the Titans bench (away from his offensive teammates), and sits alone with his head in his hands. Heimerdinger walks over to him with a clipboard and appears to be trying to show him something or talk him through things, and Vince never takes his head out of his hands.

Several other players walk over to talk to him and he seems to pretty much ignore them. Then one of the Titans staff walks over with a baseball cap (a gesture I took to mean he wouldn't be coming back in to the game), and Vince ignored him. Meanwhile, the Titans defense does their job again, and the offense has the ball. During a TV timeout, the offensive team makes their way back on to the field, but Vince is still sitting there, alone, on the bench. Kerry Collins starts taking some warmup snaps/throws.

At pretty much the last possible second, Vince gets up, slowly walks over to Fisher, and then slowly jogs on to the field to a parade of boos. Keep in mind, this is the 4th quarter. The Titans are winning 10-7, with the ball, and ~8 minutes left. A couple plays later he gets tackled while rolling out of the pocket, and injures his knee. Collins comes in, goes 2-for-2 for ~70 yards, and Lenwhale rushes in for the game-clinching touchdown.

Not that I blame him really, but Fisher pretty much glossed over the whole situation in his post-game interview. I hope he chewed his ### out behind closed doors though.

I think this could very well be the beginning of the end for VY in Tennessee. If he's going to be out for a few games as he is rumored to be, and Collins comes in and plays well it would really put the coaching staff in a tough spot.

Interesting story in The Tennessean basically saying that Young and Jeff Fisher got into it on the sidelines after VY tried to take himself out of the game. This was a few plays before he was injured.

Sideline incident raises more concerns about Young

Went to a football game on Sunday and a soap opera broke out.

Welcome to Titans ’08. If the game is dull, just focus on the sideline. That’s where the real drama unfolds.

It took only one game — a victory over Jacksonville, no less — for the season to take a strange turn. This team has issues at quarterback, be it a tight hamstring, a sprained knee, a bruised ego, a bad attitude or all of the above.

Frankly, it’s hard to see the Titans taking flight if Vince Young doesn’t get his act together — physically and emotionally. Playing great defense is one thing; having to constantly defend your quarterback is another.

By now you know the score: For whatever reason, Young appeared unwilling to take the field midway through the fourth quarter on Sunday afternoon following his second interception and a resulting cascade of boos from the fans at LP Field.

Eventually, he re-entered the game, only to suffer a knee injury four plays later. His day was done. But the real story was just beginning.

We’ll never know exactly what happened. Titans Coach Jeff Fisher immediately shifted into damage control. Young’s teammates were guarded in their answers to questions about the quarterback.

As for Young, he was observed in the locker room on crutches more than an hour after game’s end but left without speaking to reporters.

Mum’s the word.

But there was no hiding the chaos when Young failed to join the rest of the offense on the field with 5:57 remaining and the Titans clinging to a 10-7 lead.

As we piece the story together, it appears that Young began to experience some tightness in his hamstring after a short pass to his right was intercepted by Jacksonville defensive end Derrick Harvey.

Proper sideline protocol is for the player to notify a trainer about an injury, no matter if it’s a tight hamstring or a severed limb. That way, he can get immediate treatment and the coaches are made aware of the situation and can prepare accordingly.

But after throwing the interception and being roundly booed, Young went to the bench and sat down. No medical personnel were summoned.

When the defense forced a punt three plays later and the offense returned to the field, Young was AWOL.

That’s when things grew frantic. It’s hard to run a play without a quarterback.

“I came on the field and 10 wasn’t in the huddle,” said center Kevin Mawae. “I didn’t know what the situation was.”

Fisher then made a beeline to Young, standing several yards away.

After the game, Fisher recalled that his conversation with Young centered solely on the quarterback’s hamstring.

“He said, ‘It’s tight,’ and I said, ‘If it’s tight, we’ll go with Kerry,’ and try to talk him back into it and he felt good,” Fisher said.

But considering how animated Fisher appeared as he talked with Young, it’s hard to believe some other matters weren’t discussed. From the outside looking in, Fisher seemed to all but throw Young back onto the field.

But it’s no surprise that Fisher soft-pedaled this in the post-game interview. In two seasons, he always has been overly protective of his quarterback. It doesn’t appear things are changing in Year 3.

It’s time to get with the program. Young has to grow out of this. Sulking is no longer an option.

This is the toughest part of the learning curve for Young. At the University of Texas, he could do no wrong. The NFL is a different matter.

Titans safety Michael Griffin, who was Young’s teammate at Texas, gets it.

“Hey, fans are going to be fans. Boos are going to happen,” Griffin said. “Everybody has their opinions.”

Yes they do. And opinions are beginning to change where Vince Young is concerned. He made believers when he was NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year in 2006. Despite some slippage last season, he quarterbacked the Titans to the playoffs.

But with a lousy preseason and the ugly residue of the season-opener, Young now has some catching-up to do. His teammates still voice their support in interviews but you can sense some concerns creeping into the locker room.

“Part of playing quarterback in this league is the ups and downs,” said Kerry Collins, who finished what Young started. “For a young guy, it’s a hard thing to learn sometimes. It’s not easy.

“There are times when you’re going to get booed. There are times when things aren’t going the way you want it to go. You’ve got to fight through it, and I believe he will. It’s just part of the whole process. No quarterback has ever been immune to it.”

Sounds like the real drama is just beginning.

Link:http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...2/80907012/1027

 

[Joe Bryant]

For those of us who missed it, what were his "antics" during the game this weekend?

Hi EBF,Here is the thread we had on it yesterday. http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=420012

Basically the word was that Young didn't want to go back in the game after he was booed. That Fisher had to basically throw him back in the game. Then went back in and was injured a few plays later. Coupled with the talk that he almost retired from the pressure last year has some folks wondering if this isn't a Ricky Williams type situation.

Mabye it's more a University of Texas thing, I dunno.

I'd say the reality for Young is that he's dealing with the huge pressures put on a young guy. I have NO idea if this is the case with him, but it certainly wouldn't be out of the question for a person to be dealing with anxiety / depression type issues as well.

As far as the police involved in the thing last night, I'd have a hard time thinking that's the case if it's just a thing where they couldn't find him. Titans security would do the "find him if he's not answering his cell" type work first. If they didn't find him, the security folks from NY would be on it. And only then would the Nashville Police be involved. They're the last resort as then it becomes a news story.

If the police is involved, it's for something more serious I'd think. Let's see how it plays out.

But the pressure is basically off Young for now. They've already stated it's a 2-4 week injury so the spotlight is definitely focused elsewhere at least for rigtht now.

Oh, and Kerry Collins looked pretty darn good..

J

 

[GregR_2]

That's the problem with cell phones. Everybody expects you to have it on you at all times and when you don't answer they start freaking out.

Pretty sure nobody has freaked out when they can't reach me. Pretty sure I haven't freaked out when my wife doesn't have her cell phone and I can't reach her. Why? Because there's no history to suggest worry about the situation. The article just linked says Young is fine and it was all nothing. But, they had a reason to worry. I assume that's because he's shown something in the past to cause them worry.

The article suggests it wasn't a freak out just because he didn't have it on him, but because of "questions about Young's state of mind began when the quarterback left his home abruptly" and "According to those same sources, Young seemed emotionally down and left his cell phone behind."

 

[Tom in Albany]

For those of us who missed it, what were his "antics" during the game this weekend?

Hi EBF,Here is the thread we had on it yesterday. http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=420012

Basically the word was that Young didn't want to go back in the game after he was booed. That Fisher had to basically throw him back in the game. Then went back in and was injured a few plays later. Coupled with the talk that he almost retired from the pressure last year has some folks wondering if this isn't a Ricky Williams type situation.

Mabye it's more a University of Texas thing, I dunno.

I'd say the reality for Young is that he's dealing with the huge pressures put on a young guy. I have NO idea if this is the case with him, but it certainly wouldn't be out of the question for a person to be dealing with anxiety / depression type issues as well.

As far as the police involved in the thing last night, I'd have a hard time thinking that's the case. Titans security would do the "find him if he's not answering his cell" type work first. If they didn't find him, the security folks from NY would be on it. And only then would the Nashville Police be involved. They're the last resort as then it becomes a news story.

If the police is involved, it's for something more serious I'd think. Let's see how it plays out.

But the pressure is basically off Young for now. They've already stated it's a 2-4 week injury so the spotlight is definitely focused elsewhere at least for rigtht now.

Oh, and Kerry Collins looked pretty darn good..

J

Pretty strong language GB.

 

[sho nuff]

I will add that I have it from a reliable source that McNair is in town... Don't crucify me or make fun of me. Take it for what its worth, but read between the lines.

McNair is a mentor and father figure to VY, so this makes complete sense. I don't think it has anything to do with McNair coming out of retirement.

you may be surprised

As others mentioned...the Ravens own the rights to him.The Titans have been doing this big 10th anniversary thing of their coming to Tennessee so alot of the players are back for things.The tickets are all commemorative with old players pictures on them.Eddie George was out there for the coin toss in his jersey Sunday and pumping up the crowd.Oh...and McNair continues to do things in the community here and did so even when playing for the Ravens as he really likes Nashville.Him being here is no sign of him coming out of retirement to play for the Titans.

 

[Da Guru]

I posted this when Young was drafted. People thought that VY was going to come into the NFL and run for 150 yards and two TDs a game, and throw for the same.

NFL defenses are too fast and work to take away what you do best. Plus the fact that VY is still far from a polished QB.

To succeed as a NFL QB you have to be accurate, have timing with the WRs, and be able to read defenses. If you can run that is a bonus. That is why there is always room for guys like Kurt Warner.

Young had the perfect game for "college" football. Take a shotgun hike, make one read and if it was not there take off running. I read there were games at UT that they only used 4-5 plays over and over again. The NFL is far more complex.

Looking at McFadden on the sidelines toward the end of the game last night he also seemed a bit like "Is this what this league is all about"

 

[beavers]

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Looking at McFadden on the sidelines toward the end of the game last night he also seemed a bit like "Is this what this league is all about"

The answer for him is "No. Just the Raiders."

 

[Abraham]

He had a bad day, but let's not get carried away. Steve McNair is not un-retiring. Kerry Collins isn't the QB of the future. The Titans didn't go add another QB (they passed on Henne and Brohm, among others) to shore up the position. Vince is the starter when healthy - deal.

I think the 2-4 weeks off will be very good for him. It's been a while since he had a prolonged chance to watch from the sidelines and take things in. In camp, he referenced the fact that the "fun" and "excitement" were not present like they were in his first year, and I think that a lot of that had to do with him trying so hard to be the leader and the star, etc. I think that standing on the sidelines in a T-shirt and shorts for 2-4 weeks will let him loosen up, which is what is most needed. He's making good decisions with the ball, really. His last 3 interceptions (going back to ATL preseason) were not awful throws. But he's bound to know that's what people are focusing on. Everything done wrong is a big deal, and every thing done right is "lucky". He throws a TD to Chris Johnson - a good decision, a good read - and all people can talk about is how the throw was low and behind him. Contrast that with Aaron Rodgers, who throws a TD last night across his body off one foot and all you hear far and wide is about how much like Brett Favre he is.

The break will do him good, and he'll return as a better qb.

 

[Andy Herron]

Link

http://www.wkrn.com/global/story.asp?s=8976169

" Concerns about the well-being of Tennessee Titans quarterback Vince Young prompted an early morning meeting at Titans headquarters. Metro police officers and Titans Coach Jeff Fisher gathered at Baptist Sports Park around 12:30 a.m. Tuesday to meet with Vince Young after trying to locate him. According to sources, questions about Young's state of mind began when the quarter back left his home abruptly at 7:30 p.m. Monday. Titans officials alerted Metro police to be on the lookout for Young's SUV. Sources tell News 2 that Coach Fisher eventually made contact with Young and told him to meet at Baptist Sports Park. After Coach Fisher spoke with Young, sources say it seemed concerns about Young's state of mind were unfounded."

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

-- The McNair thing has NOTHING to do with him possibly unretiring and playing for the Titans.

-- Honestly, I'm not really all that sure that his knee is hurt that much. It may be a smokescreen or an excuse for some time off -- either by VY or by Fisher.

-- His first INT was bad. The 2nd one, you know -- it looked bad but really wasn't. Awesome play by the DE and the OT didn't get his guy down. The crowd did boo, though...loud and a lot. Plus...they cheered when they saw Kerry Collins start warming up.

-- There is some other mental health issue involved: depression, chemical, psych -- something. You don't call the police unless you have serious concerns.

I'll update as I hear more.

As far as the Titans go -- It is Kerry Collins and I bet they bring Ingle Martin of of practice squad. He knows the offense as well as Collins or VY and, frankly, looked good. I say this so they wouldn't have to throw out half the playbook until another QB got up to speed. It is Collins unless he gets hurt.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

As someone who's been hyper-critical of Young as an NFL QB in the past, I hope this is more smoke than fire. Depression can hit anybody, and speaking from experience it doesn't get better until you get some help.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

VY left home abruptly at 7:30, didn't have his cell phone with him, and couldn't be located...so, Fisher called the police and he was located around midnight.

Just thought of something -- there must have been someone at VY's house that relayed VY's state of mind / abrupt departure to Fisher that made Fish even more concerned.

Let's keep this about VY the person for the time being and not about VY the qb.

 

[Godsbrother]

I'm not saying he's mentally ill but...There are people who suffer from mental illnesses in all walks of life - doctors, lawyers, teachers, dock workers, etc. It shouldn't be terribly surprising when a professional athlete is revealed to have problems. It's shocking because we expect our sports heroes, especially football players, to be invincible.If he is in trouble, I hope he finds help.

 

[bmetz]

VY left home abruptly at 7:30, didn't have his cell phone with him, and couldn't be located...so, Fisher called the police and he was located around midnight.Just thought of something -- there must have been someone at VY's house that relayed VY's state of mind / abrupt departure to Fisher that made Fish even more concerned.Let's keep this about VY the person for the time being and not about VY the qb.

Wonder if VY's state of mind had anything to do with the Titans apparent inability to get him an MRI yesterday?