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W. Parker.........welcome to the FF bench (1 Viewer)

ltaylor

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With San Diego's Rushing Defense giving up a stingy 66 yards a game and allowing ZERO Tds so far this year, W. Parker belongs on many fantasy football benches this weekend. Granted it all depends what depth you have behind him, but I beleieve most people's #3 Rb will certainly outscore Parker this week. I am a Parker owner and I like him alot, but his running style has ZERO chance of success aginst SD. His rushing chart will look like this -1, 2, 3, 2, 1, 0, -1, 6, -2, 4. The only way i see him scoring is if a Pass interference penalty puts the ball at 1st and Goal on the 1 yard line.

My prediction:

58 rushing yards, 0 TDs

1 catch, 7 yards, 0 TDs

 
I'm not a Parker owner, and truth be told I won't be totally shocked for him to be somewhat ineffective this week, but SDs rush defense seems to be predicated largely on speed/penetration rather than bulk. Parker will be the one guy they've faced so far this year that can potentially outrun that speed on some plays. He plays for the team with the best run blockers that SD has faced so far this year as well.

Yeah, maybe he winds up with only around 70 total yards this week.....but there's that chance that he pops one.

As mentioned, it all comes down to your other options I suppose.

 
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Just when you predict such as this, something goes awry and Parker gets 30 carries for 150 yards and 2 scores, you know ?

 
I wouldn't be suprised to see Willie under 70 yards rushing this week. Alot will depend upon who is winning in the 2nd half. In a tight game last year Bettis and Parker combined for 27/80 1 TD on the ground and 2/30 receving...not all of that will go to FWP but 100 total yards and a TD is a good bet if the game is close or the Steelers are ahead in the 2nd half.

 
SDs rush defense seems to be predicated largely on speed/penetration rather than bulk.
:no: I'd like to introduce you to one of the, if not THE most underrated (at least by the public) players in football. His name is Jamal Williams, one of the absolute best run stuffers in the NFL. At 6-3 348 (which I believe is a somewhat conservative number favoring the svelte side), he's got plenty of bulk. He's the reason the speed guys work - because you can't run up the middle on the Chargers as long as he's there allowing the speed guys free range to rush the outside or hit the gaps.

 
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This has Jax revisited all over it, SD is gonna be pissed after losing to BAL last week. As a Parker owner I'm scared and might bench him for FT :unsure:

 
Rested Steelers line.

Big Ben will be on for this one. Ward will be able to run better routes. SD LBs will have to commit one to watching Miller. With the passing game working, SD will have to take 1 or 2 out of the box.

70-90 yards rushing, 5-60 yards receiving, 2 TDs will be respectable and acheivable for FWP.

Oh, and the STEELERS WIN! :towelwave:

 
It would not surprise me to see Parker limited to 58 yards but I see him getting more than 1 catch for 7 yards. Maybe 25 yards receiving.

So I see 80+ total yards and maybe a TD. That doesn't look too bad to me...

 
The dude is going to more than likely get 20+ carries... you can't bench a number of touches that large no matter who they're facing.

 
Who knows?

If you drafted him to start every week then you start him. Matchups can really be over thought and can really bite you in the ### when you least expect it. I want my best players in the lineup week in week out. I drafted them and expect them to lead me to a crown along with some great pick-ups to add to the roster. I am in the school of "Playing matchups is overrated". I have won enough leagues and played too long to over think Fantasy Football. It is one thing if you have a guy you drafted later that is outperforming your 1st or 2nd or even 3rd rounder but unless you have a much better option why would you sit your studs? Parker has been good thus far and will only get better. I expect good numbers. Unless you have say a Deshaun Foster ( who has a great matchup vs Cleveland if you want to really look at that) or Maroney or Gore( who was drafted later in most drafts this year) as an RB3 I would never sit Parker because of a matchup. Now if you see an obvious matchup like Fosters that I can understand, but most NFL defenses are good and it is a matter of execution. Will the Steelers beat the Chargers off the ball? They have one of the best OL in the league so I can say they should be somewhat effective and parker could break a long run or 2.

Now if they were playing the Bears or Jaguars then maybe you look at a different option. But then look at how Portis ran against the Jags. Would you have sat Portis because of that matchup? Parker is one of the few backs getting a lot of touches each and every week. I would not sit him unless your deep at RB and have a compelling match-up like the Foster example.

 
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I have a feeling this is the week we're going to see the return of the Steelers from last year. This maybe your last chance to get FWP for a reasonable value.

 
The dude is going to more than likely get 20+ carries... you can't bench a number of touches that large no matter who they're facing.
DING! DING! DING!!!We have a winnah!!!:goodposting:You people should listen to this man, he's pre-med.
I apologize in advance, as I am not pre-med, but....what happens when you got 3 guys that get 20+ carries a game and can only start 2?
 
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I have Foster in my lineup right now versus the Browns. I'll take my chances with his 20 carries versus FWP's 20 carries.

 
The dude is going to more than likely get 20+ carries... you can't bench a number of touches that large no matter who they're facing.
DING! DING! DING!!!We have a winnah!!!:goodposting:You people should listen to this man, he's pre-med.
I apologize in advance, as I am not pre-med, but....what happens when you got 3 guys that get 20+ carries a game and can only start 2?
Uhhhhhh, you leave one on the bench.
 
The dude is going to more than likely get 20+ carries... you can't bench a number of touches that large no matter who they're facing.
DING! DING! DING!!!We have a winnah!!!:goodposting:You people should listen to this man, he's pre-med.
I apologize in advance, as I am not pre-med, but....what happens when you got 3 guys that get 20+ carries a game and can only start 2?
Uhhhhhh, you leave one on the bench.
Ba-dum-dum *cymbal crash*Sounds like you have this problem every week so you should be pretty good at handling it by now.
 
Its a tough call this week. PIT has looked impressive running the ball each week, while the OL has struggled to give Ben time. The pass protection in the Cinci game was horrible.

I think PIT keeps it on the ground and tries to attack the corners (and away from Jamal) with Willie. I don't think SD will respect the PIT passing game and sell out to defend the rush. I don't expect much sucess and PIT will have to throw the ball early.

Ward and Miller, IMO, are the plays this week.

:levin:

I'm starting Chester and Maroney over FWP this week.

:/levin:

:D

 
Its a tough call this week. PIT has looked impressive running the ball each week, while the OL has struggled to give Ben time. The pass protection in the Cinci game was horrible.I think PIT keeps it on the ground and tries to attack the corners (and away from Jamal) with Willie. I don't think SD will respect the PIT passing game and sell out to defend the rush. I don't expect much sucess and PIT will have to throw the ball early.Ward and Miller, IMO, are the plays this week. :levin:I'm starting Chester and Maroney over FWP this week.:/levin: :D
I'm actually thinking of starting Maroney over FWP as well. :banned:
 
I have to start 3 RBs, so I make posts with that in mind. :football:

The dude is going to more than likely get 20+ carries... you can't bench a number of touches that large no matter who they're facing.
DING! DING! DING!!!We have a winnah!!! :goodposting: You people should listen to this man, he's pre-med.
I apologize in advance, as I am not pre-med, but....what happens when you got 3 guys that get 20+ carries a game and can only start 2?
 
I have to start 3 RBs, so I make posts with that in mind. :football:

The dude is going to more than likely get 20+ carries... you can't bench a number of touches that large no matter who they're facing.
DING! DING! DING!!!We have a winnah!!! :goodposting: You people should listen to this man, he's pre-med.
I apologize in advance, as I am not pre-med, but....what happens when you got 3 guys that get 20+ carries a game and can only start 2?
Have to start 3RB's wow, Thats a 1st for meSo what if you have 4RB's that get 20+ carries a game?
 
Pat yourself on the back for loading up on RB talent?

I have to start 3 RBs, so I make posts with that in mind. :football:

The dude is going to more than likely get 20+ carries... you can't bench a number of touches that large no matter who they're facing.
DING! DING! DING!!!We have a winnah!!! :goodposting: You people should listen to this man, he's pre-med.
I apologize in advance, as I am not pre-med, but....what happens when you got 3 guys that get 20+ carries a game and can only start 2?
Have to start 3RB's wow, Thats a 1st for meSo what if you have 4RB's that get 20+ carries a game?
 
I am leaning towards starting Parker over TJones (v Bills) b/c it is a PPR league and I think Parker will get a bunch of dump off passes as Roethlisberger gets pressured a lot.

 
So you figure SD won't allow a rushing TD all year then?
Of course not.SD's D is a bit overrated, IMO, right now because of who they've played--two of the most anemic Os in the league (Oak, TEN) and Baltimore.I just think PIT will have far more success throwing the ball in the red zone.
 
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FWP was very inconsitent last year because he was not the goaline back. This year however, he has seemed to assume that role (even though that may change). So in most cases a RB that gets 20 total touches a game and is the goaline back should always get a start, but against very good defenses if you have a RB 3 with a better match up then it beomes a decision to toy with.

For example, D. Foster is playing Cleveland this week and as a RB 3 on most teams this seems like a far better match up then W. Parker against San Diego. I am not into the always start your studs theory. I think playing match ups is the best way to win week to week.

Hope that helps.

 
It does look like a bad match-up. But thats why i am playing him. Its the NFL it always seems to surprise me.You would expect 60 yards or so. I think he will get double that and a score,why? Because no body expects it including SD.

 
The silver lining for Parker in this scenario is that he is actually Pittsburghs best offensive weapon against this defense. Trying to drop back and pass is a recipe for disaster, so the Steelers are going to need to beat them with speed if they can. Screen passes should slow that defense down, and that is a play FWP is on the field for quite often.

 
Its a tough call this week. PIT has looked impressive running the ball each week, while the OL has struggled to give Ben time. The pass protection in the Cinci game was horrible.

I think PIT keeps it on the ground and tries to attack the corners (and away from Jamal) with Willie. I don't think SD will respect the PIT passing game and sell out to defend the rush. I don't expect much sucess and PIT will have to throw the ball early.

Ward and Miller, IMO, are the plays this week.

:levin:

I'm starting Chester and Maroney over FWP this week.

:/levin:

:D
I guess you and I watched a different Steelers-Bengals game because I thought the o-line did a fine job with pass protection. Ben was sacked three times but he was holding on to the ball way too long. As far as the running game goes, it was very good against Miami & Cincy but absolutely lousy against the Jaguars. Of course the whole offense looked horrible that game.

 
Unless you have say a Deshaun Foster ( who has a great matchup vs Cleveland if you want to really look at that) or Maroney or Gore( who was drafted later in most drafts this year) as an RB3 I would never sit Parker because of a matchup. Now if you see an obvious matchup like Fosters that I can understand, but most NFL defenses are good and it is a matter of execution. Parker is one of the few backs getting a lot of touches each and every week. I would not sit him unless your deep at RB and have a compelling match-up like the Foster example.
I do have Foster and have penciled him in as my starter instead of FWP. My other starter being SJax.Your comment is making me feel like writing it in permanent ink. :P
 
Wait a minute. Have you seen who SD has played?

1. Oakland

2. Tenn

3. Bye

4. Balt

Two out of three teams stink and Balt hasn't shown they can do anything against a decent club.

I was going to bench Parker until I took a look at who SD has played.

You might be right, but it's not based upon on-the-field proof this year that they can stop a superior rushing attack.

 
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FWP is a must start RB2 in all formats.

I am sure alot of people said FWP wouldn't produce against Cincy either.

 
Just when you predict such as this, something goes awry and Parker gets 30 carries for 150 yards and 2 scores, you know ?
I'm not EXPECTING much, but that's exactly the reason he will be in my starting lineup this week. He's certainly not a must start, but I don't think he's a must sit either. If you only start 2 RBs in a smaller league, yes you probably have other options. But if you're in a 12 team or better and start 3 RBs (with flex, etc), then the POSSIBILITY that he goes off is still worth something. For example, my other options right now are Matt Jones, Michael Robinson, or Marion Barber. As it stands now, I'd rather take the chance on my "stud" with a bad matchup than other guys who have struggled with injury/production or are otherwise the second guy.But then I'll probably get burned like I did in week 2 against Jax, so what do I know. I guess I just feel better about missing out on a big game by my week 3 pickup than from my 2nd round draft pick... :)
 
FWP is a must start RB2 in all formats.I am sure alot of people said FWP wouldn't produce against Cincy either.
I don't agree with either statement. As I said, I don't think he's a must start, but I also don't think he's a must sit. I dn't think you should expect a big game, and I think there are certainly going to be better RB2 options out there in 10 and 12 leagues. RB3, probably not.And no one thought he wouldn't produce against Cincy especially without Pollack and Thurman.
 
I have to keep him on the bench so I can put him in really fast if Westbrook is declared inactive. All my other RB's play early games, so FWP is sitting for me unless Westbrook is inactive.

 
Wait a minute. Have you seen who SD has played?1. Oakland2. Tenn3. Bye4. BaltTwo out of three teams stink and Balt hasn't shown they can do anything against a decent club.I was going to bench Parker until I took a look at who SD has played. You might be right, but it's not based upon on-the-field proof this year that they can stop a superior rushing attack.
Well, I think your analysis should take note that this team was the second best defense against the run last year by only allowing 3.5 ypr. Only Pitts finished ahead of them at 3.4 ypr. And this defense has looked better than last season.This defense is really good and unless you feel FWP is going to get a TD then he may be a risky play.
 
I have Parker as my 2nd RB and am debating whether to play him against the Chargers or play Addai vs Titans or Th. Jones vs Bills. Parker is the best play most weeks, but I like Addai's matchup alot and Th. Jones could have a good day as well. Right now I have Addai in the lineup, but that decision could be one of those that comes down to the wire between Addai and Parker. At least I have Tomlinson as my #1 RB.

 
As a guy that spent a 2nd rounder on Willie in my 12 team redraft, I can't think of any reason why I would not play him every week, particulary if they feed him the ball 20+ times. The Jags game was a total team blunder and should not dissuade FWP owners one bit from using him each week.

Read this again about FWP and Touches

 
pghrob said:
As a guy that spent a 2nd rounder on Willie in my 12 team redraft, I can't think of any reason why I would not play him every week, particulary if they feed him the ball 20+ times. The Jags game was a total team blunder and should not dissuade FWP owners one bit from using him each week.

Read this again about FWP and Touches
My point exactly. Why draft him in the second round only to debate matchups. He has shown nothing but very good things 3 out of 4 weeks. He is an every week starter.End of Story.

 
Well, I think your analysis should take note that this team was the second best defense against the run last year by only allowing 3.5 ypr. Only Pitts finished ahead of them at 3.4 ypr. And this defense has looked better than last season.This defense is really good and unless you feel FWP is going to get a TD then he may be a risky play.
:goodposting: People slagging off the Charger defense because of who they've played so far this season in an attempt to feel good about starting Parker are whistling past the graveyard. The Charger defense is good, could be excellent, and is unquestionably one of the two or three best in the NFL against the run. I can understand starting Parker because you don't have other options, or because you think he's THAT good (well sort of), but rationalizing that the Chargers aren't that great against the run as a reason to start him is somewhat delusional.
 
With San Diego's Rushing Defense giving up a stingy 66 yards a game and allowing ZERO Tds so far this year, W. Parker belongs on many fantasy football benches this weekend. Granted it all depends what depth you have behind him, but I beleieve most people's #3 Rb will certainly outscore Parker this week. I am a Parker owner and I like him alot, but his running style has ZERO chance of success aginst SD. His rushing chart will look like this -1, 2, 3, 2, 1, 0, -1, 6, -2, 4. The only way i see him scoring is if a Pass interference penalty puts the ball at 1st and Goal on the 1 yard line.My prediction:58 rushing yards, 0 TDs1 catch, 7 yards, 0 TDs
Who are you starting instead?
 
With San Diego's Rushing Defense giving up a stingy 66 yards a game and allowing ZERO Tds so far this year, W. Parker belongs on many fantasy football benches this weekend. Granted it all depends what depth you have behind him, but I beleieve most people's #3 Rb will certainly outscore Parker this week. I am a Parker owner and I like him alot, but his running style has ZERO chance of success aginst SD. His rushing chart will look like this -1, 2, 3, 2, 1, 0, -1, 6, -2, 4. The only way i see him scoring is if a Pass interference penalty puts the ball at 1st and Goal on the 1 yard line.My prediction:58 rushing yards, 0 TDs1 catch, 7 yards, 0 TDs
Look at the offensive lines that San Diego's D has been up against: Oakland, TN, and Baltimore. All those teams have shaky offensive lines, and offenses in general. If Big Ben can get himself together and play like he is capable of, Pittsburgh can have better results rushing against San Diego than the other teams have. It won't be easy because SD's rushing D is very good, but it isn't impossible either.
 
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He's worth a start unless you have a player just as good with a better matchup, but here's what happened when the teams played last year:

Bettis: 17 rushes for 54 yards, 1 catch for 16 yards, 1 TD

FWP: 10 rushes for 26 yards, 1 catch for 14 yards, 0 TD

Now if you think FWP will get all the touches then you could assume 27 rushes for 80 yards, 2 catches for 30 yards and a TD. I think 100 total yards and a TD is reasonable.

 
I will be starting FWP and LT2 for no other reason than it precludes the need to channel surf (as much as I normally would) Rhodes will be warming the bench even though I could easily see him having a better day than FWP. :banned:

 

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