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W6 Game Thread - Philadelphia V New Orleans (1 Viewer)

Saints are opening some eyes today, look like a team that could win a game in the playoffs. How did this happen?

 
If I'm the Saints I don't pass here. Even though as a Colston owner I would love to see him score again, the Eagles can't stop the run and it would kill them to lose the time on the clock.

 
Congrats for overcoming a bad decision.

I was def. pulling for the Saints - but failing to run the ball up the middle three times is fooish.

 
Marc Levin said:
Congrats for overcoming a bad decision.I was def. pulling for the Saints - but failing to run the ball up the middle three times is fooish.
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I'd take a last second FG over a TD with 90 seconds left everyday of the week. Great coaching by Payton.
 
Marc Levin said:
Congrats for overcoming a bad decision.I was def. pulling for the Saints - but failing to run the ball up the middle three times is fooish.
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I disagree. In that situation, Payton played the percentages and it worked out. I am not afraid of something going wrong, I am more afraid of leaving the time on the clock for McNabb to do something.I like the way he played it, and I am glad it worked out.
 
Zigg said:
Marc Levin said:
Congrats for overcoming a bad decision.I was def. pulling for the Saints - but failing to run the ball up the middle three times is fooish.
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I'd take a last second FG over a TD with 90 seconds left everyday of the week. Great coaching by Payton.
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I agree. Great way to manage the clock. A coach with intelligence and a QB with heart & intelligence(and courage as someone posted previously).
 
if deuce would've been healthy, the saints could've run away with this one. he's really running with power this season. surprising given his injury

 
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Saints beat GB and Cleveland--"They haven't played anybody".

Beat Atlanta--"It was all emotion"

Beat TB--"Didn't play anybody"

Beat Philadelphia--"????"

 
cowboyz said:
if deuce would've been healthy, the saints could've run away with this one. he's really running with power this season. surprising given his injury
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oh yeah... he was running all over them when he was in there...
 
Marc Levin said:
This is a bad decision.Taking knees and not even trying to run the ball in is a mistake.
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:confused: What if there were a fumble on a rushing attempt? Seems the Saints' endgame was perfect to me. :shrug:
 
Doug B said:
Marc Levin said:
This is a bad decision.

Taking knees and not even trying to run the ball in is a mistake.
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:confused: What if there were a fumble on a rushing attempt? Seems the Saints' endgame was perfect to me. :shrug:
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Agreed. Anyone saying it was foolish strategy or a bad decision really don't get it. Link

New Orleans Saints vs. Philadelphia Eagles Postgame quotes

New Orleans Saints Coach Sean Payton

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Q: At what point did you decide to play for the field goal?

A: "As soon as we knew we could get the clock down to 3 seconds. If we can't hit a 31-yard field goal with 3 seconds left then we can't win that game. I don't want to give them 7 or 8 seconds left or even ten if the snap isn't good. I want to let it go down to 3 and kick the game winner and there is going to be no time left. That will be how we handle things in regards to winding the clock down. I have seen that thing get screwed up plenty of times. We go to 3 seconds, we kick the ball and the game is over. If we don't make it then we are not good enough. I was proud at how they handled that situation. I thought the time was in our favor. I thought the field position was in our favor being inside the 15 and in the middle. Obviously we have a lot of respect for Donavan McNabb and their offense because they were moving the ball pretty good. So the idea of not giving them the ball again was appealing to me."

 
Sidewinder said:
Doug B said:
Marc Levin said:
This is a bad decision.

Taking knees and not even trying to run the ball in is a mistake.
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:confused: What if there were a fumble on a rushing attempt? Seems the Saints' endgame was perfect to me. :shrug:
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Agreed. Anyone saying it was foolish strategy or a bad decision really don't get it. Link

New Orleans Saints vs. Philadelphia Eagles Postgame quotes

New Orleans Saints Coach Sean Payton

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Q: At what point did you decide to play for the field goal?

A: "As soon as we knew we could get the clock down to 3 seconds. If we can't hit a 31-yard field goal with 3 seconds left then we can't win that game. I don't want to give them 7 or 8 seconds left or even ten if the snap isn't good. I want to let it go down to 3 and kick the game winner and there is going to be no time left. That will be how we handle things in regards to winding the clock down. I have seen that thing get screwed up plenty of times. We go to 3 seconds, we kick the ball and the game is over. If we don't make it then we are not good enough. I was proud at how they handled that situation. I thought the time was in our favor. I thought the field position was in our favor being inside the 15 and in the middle. Obviously we have a lot of respect for Donavan McNabb and their offense because they were moving the ball pretty good. So the idea of not giving them the ball again was appealing to me."
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Classic. Clock. Management. :nerd:

 
Mudcrab said:
Sidewinder said:
Doug B said:
Marc Levin said:
This is a bad decision.

Taking knees and not even trying to run the ball in is a mistake.
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:confused: What if there were a fumble on a rushing attempt? Seems the Saints' endgame was perfect to me. :shrug:
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Agreed. Anyone saying it was foolish strategy or a bad decision really don't get it. Link

New Orleans Saints vs. Philadelphia Eagles Postgame quotes

New Orleans Saints Coach Sean Payton

...

Q: At what point did you decide to play for the field goal?

A: "As soon as we knew we could get the clock down to 3 seconds. If we can't hit a 31-yard field goal with 3 seconds left then we can't win that game. I don't want to give them 7 or 8 seconds left or even ten if the snap isn't good. I want to let it go down to 3 and kick the game winner and there is going to be no time left. That will be how we handle things in regards to winding the clock down. I have seen that thing get screwed up plenty of times. We go to 3 seconds, we kick the ball and the game is over. If we don't make it then we are not good enough. I was proud at how they handled that situation. I thought the time was in our favor. I thought the field position was in our favor being inside the 15 and in the middle. Obviously we have a lot of respect for Donavan McNabb and their offense because they were moving the ball pretty good. So the idea of not giving them the ball again was appealing to me."
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Classic. Clock. Management. :nerd:
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Also, Duece fumbled earlier in the game, and had the hammy tighten up on him. I agreed with the call. Carney is perfect under 50 yards. and if he misses it's OT at home with the mommentum.
 
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ATC1 said:
Mudcrab said:
Sidewinder said:
Doug B said:
Marc Levin said:
This is a bad decision.

Taking knees and not even trying to run the ball in is a mistake.
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:confused: What if there were a fumble on a rushing attempt? Seems the Saints' endgame was perfect to me. :shrug:
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Agreed. Anyone saying it was foolish strategy or a bad decision really don't get it. Link

New Orleans Saints vs. Philadelphia Eagles Postgame quotes

New Orleans Saints Coach Sean Payton

...

Q: At what point did you decide to play for the field goal?

A: "As soon as we knew we could get the clock down to 3 seconds. If we can't hit a 31-yard field goal with 3 seconds left then we can't win that game. I don't want to give them 7 or 8 seconds left or even ten if the snap isn't good. I want to let it go down to 3 and kick the game winner and there is going to be no time left. That will be how we handle things in regards to winding the clock down. I have seen that thing get screwed up plenty of times. We go to 3 seconds, we kick the ball and the game is over. If we don't make it then we are not good enough. I was proud at how they handled that situation. I thought the time was in our favor. I thought the field position was in our favor being inside the 15 and in the middle. Obviously we have a lot of respect for Donavan McNabb and their offense because they were moving the ball pretty good. So the idea of not giving them the ball again was appealing to me."
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Classic. Clock. Management. :nerd:
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Also, Duece fumbled earlier in the game, and had the hammy tighten up on him. I agreed with the call. Carney is perfect under 50 yards. and if he misses it's OT at home with the mommentum.
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I think that's the big factor. If you are down by a couple of points, then you run it. Having OT to fall back on makes this decision a good one.
 
ATC1 said:
Also, Duece fumbled earlier in the game, and had the hammy tighten up on him. I agreed with the call. Carney is perfect under 50 yards. and if he misses it's OT at home with the mommentum.
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The momentum of missing a game winning field goal when you (probably) could have ran it in for the win?
 
Lehigh98 said:
ATC1 said:
Also, Duece fumbled earlier in the game, and had the hammy tighten up on him. I agreed with the call. Carney is perfect under 50 yards. and if he misses it's OT at home with the mommentum.
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The momentum of missing a game winning field goal when you (probably) could have ran it in for the win?
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But it was a 31-yard FG -- operationally the same as an XP. That's a much better gamble (95+%) than converting 1st-and-goal from the 8 yard line.Another consideration that I think Mark Levin missed: what if Philly had laid down and allowed the TD so as to get the ball back in McNabb's hands with 1:30 or so on the clock? Three straight kneeldowns prevents that possibility.

 
Doug B said:
Lehigh98 said:
ATC1 said:
Also, Duece fumbled earlier in the game, and had the hammy tighten up on him. I agreed with the call. Carney is perfect under 50 yards. and if he misses it's OT at home with the mommentum.
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The momentum of missing a game winning field goal when you (probably) could have ran it in for the win?
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But it was a 31-yard FG -- operationally the same as an XP. That's a much better gamble (95+%) than converting 1st-and-goal from the 8 yard line.Another consideration that I think Mark Levin missed: what if Philly had laid down and allowed the TD so as to get the ball back in McNabb's hands with 1:30 or so on the clock? Three straight kneeldowns prevents that possibility.
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That's also true. I heard them talk about that breifly in the broadcast.
 
Doug B said:
Lehigh98 said:
ATC1 said:
Also, Duece fumbled earlier in the game, and had the hammy tighten up on him. I agreed with the call. Carney is perfect under 50 yards. and if he misses it's OT at home with the mommentum.
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The momentum of missing a game winning field goal when you (probably) could have ran it in for the win?
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But it was a 31-yard FG -- operationally the same as an XP. That's a much better gamble (95+%) than converting 1st-and-goal from the 8 yard line.Another consideration that I think Mark Levin missed: what if Philly had laid down and allowed the TD so as to get the ball back in McNabb's hands with 1:30 or so on the clock? Three straight kneeldowns prevents that possibility.
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Not questioning your strategy, questioning the statement that they'd have momentum.... or "mommentum".
 
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