Waiting Till The 3rd Round For Your Starting Running Back (1 Viewer)

[RalphMouth]

This strategy seems to be the "in" thing to do but is it really the smart thing to do ?

Looking at ADP would you be confident in any of these guys to be your #1 RB ?

Jahmal Charles

Cedric Benson

Chris Wells

Pierre Thomas

Obviously going this route means you either have two 'stud' WRs or a stud WR and either Brees or Rogers.

Can you do well waiting till the 3rd for your #1 RB ?

12 team- no PPR - 3 WR, 2RB, 1 TE

but I think this is a great topic no matter what the league type-

 

[bagger]

This strategy seems to be the "in" thing to do but is it really the smart thing to do ?Looking at ADP would you be confident in any of these guys to be your #1 RB ?Jahmal CharlesCedric BensonChris WellsPierre ThomasObviously going this route means you either have two 'stud' WRs or a stud WR and either Brees or Rogers.Can you do well waiting till the 3rd for your #1 RB ?

What's the scoring system? PPR?Starting lineups? 3 WRs? Potentially plus a flex?What draft slot are you?The short answer is "it depends".

 

[rizzler]

in a 14 man pool, TD heavy (all 6pts.)

picking at the later numbers, your best bet is to go QB/WR, value wise... getting a studmuffing like rodgers, brees, manning and airing it with a dirty WR like austin, white, or whoever... plenty of value in that regard. or WR/WR works too... tho im more comfortable with a stud QB that late in a 14.

3rd round, u double up on an addai+stewart, or if youre lucky... any of the guys u listed is there...

so ya, ive done it... its worked... finished 2nd of 14... its all about who grab in the 5th-9th rounds that really make the difference.

(start 3wr, 2rb type league)

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I like it depending on the scoring rules. I'm starting to come around slowly to Beanie Wells but I have been a fan of Charles and think he might be real value in the 3rd. Pierre Thomas is a leap into the unknown it seems. Has Thomas gotten more than 150-180 carries in his NFL career yet? Not saying he cannot produce because he can but it's troubling.

Cedric Benson is going to be a nice value play too. If you can somehow get 2 of these guys in the ;ate 3rd/early 4th after 2 stud WRs I would say you are doing well.

Nice thread topic

 

[bagger]

I also think there is a ton of later round value for RBs. Portis, LT, among a few others are RBs you can get in the 8th or so that will likely be good enough to be a RB2 when it is all said and done. At the very least many of these RBs in rounds 6-8 will have just as many questions as RBs in the 3-5 rounds so you may as well grab WRs, a TE, and potentially a stud QB in the early rounds with 1 legit back, and platoon your RB2 with these later round choices.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

As mentioned, it depends on scoring and your position in the draft. If you're in the late mid 1st, I think it could make some sense. I like the top 6 RB's on most people's boards in non ppr with Gore and Turner being 5th and 6th and then Andre Johnson. So if I'm drafting 7th and Andre Johnson is there, I may be taking him 7th and it just depends who's there in the 2nd.

I don't love the idea of not drafting a RB in the 1st and 2nd round because it kind of corners me into drafting one in the 3rd and 4th, possibly not allowing you to draft other value in those rounds.

It's certainly possible not to draft an RB in the 1st 2 rounds but I'd prefer to have a top 5 pick or 6 pick and get my RB that I know I can plug in there to start each week and then look for a nice hidden gem somewhere for my Rb2.

 

[bostonfred]

Like every year, I expect backs to go ahead of ADP in money drafts, because people will value them more than when they are mock drafting. By the time the season starts, the good ones' actual ADP will slide up further and further. But if current ADP were to hold, I think it would be a mistake to take almost any of the running backs after the late first or maybe early second round. There's a small top tier and a huge tier of guys after that. The next couple weeks will do a little to separate them, but it will mostly be people overreacting to preseason numbers or bumps and bruises, and that's where the value shakes out in the draft.

 

[Go deep]

This strategy seems to be the "in" thing to do but is it really the smart thing to do ?

Looking at ADP would you be confident in any of these guys to be your #1 RB ?

Jahmal Charles

Cedric Benson

Chris Wells

Pierre Thomas

Obviously going this route means you either have two 'stud' WRs or a stud WR and either Brees or Rogers.

Can you do well waiting till the 3rd for your #1 RB ?

What's the scoring system? PPR?Starting lineups? 3 WRs? Potentially plus a flex?

What draft slot are you?

The short answer is "it depends".

This.Up until a year or two ago my two main leagues were start two RB's and two WR's(12 team) and grabbing at least one RB in the first two rounds was a must. This doesnt have to be the case, it can also depend on who your leaguemates are drafting, but in leagues like that, RB's go early and often.

More recently i have been playing in PPR's with flex options, some where you can start 1 RB and 4 WR's. In this kind of league, i would have no problem waiting until the 4th/5th to take my first RB. As a matter of fact, that is exactly what i have done in a few drafts i finished recently. It helps that i really like a few RB's i know will last until the 4th/5th rounds. Which also has to be factored into your strategy.

It all depends on your league size, scoring, lineup requirements, etc.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

Benson is absolutely a RB1 in a 12 team league. He should be going in the mid-to-late 2nd not the 3rd IMO.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

In one league that just drafted I didn't take my 1st RB until the 4th round. I am not going to reach for one just to fill a slot. It is a 1 QB, 2 RB, 3WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF league and I started off my first 3 picks with Calvin, Miles Austin and Greg Jennings. At every pick I just felt those guys were the best value on the board. At RB I ended up with Benson (Rd 4), Felix (Rd 5), M. Bush (Rd 7), Hardesty (Rd 9) and Arian Foster (Rd 12). I am perfectly fine with that RB corps, considering my strength at WR. Others may not be comfortable with that crew. It all depends on the owner.

 

[Kleck]

In the four redraft & survivor leagues I've drafted in so far, I wanted to wait on RBs but when it came to my first two picks the value was heavily at RB for one of them, or both, so I had to go against my initial thoughts and make the value plays. I do think that waiting on RB could be very valuable this year. I'm constantly seeing Barber and Portis fall further than I think they should, and there are few more I like in that 5th through 8th range that I'd feel very comfortable with as #3 & #4 RBs. Charles/Benson paired with Barber & Portis, and having a couple of stud WRs and maybe even a top QB sounds OK to me.

 

[pantherclub]

Benson is absolutely a RB1 in a 12 team league. He should be going in the mid-to-late 2nd not the 3rd IMO.

Maybe. He has had one decent to good season in his career. Not to mention the fact that when you needed him the most last year he was non existant. Why waste a 2nd on him when I would still consider him a gamble? You could get a proven 2nd tier WR that you know is going to produce. If you are going to gamble on a rb why not wait until the 4rth or 5th to do so?My plan this year is the same for past 3 years. In the first 4 rounds I will grab 3 wr's and 1 qb. then I will feast on the midlevel running backs while the other teams are struggling to fill their wr roster spots. Only 4 RB's preseason top 10 end up finishing in the top 10. Why waste a high pick on a gamble running back when you can have a proven wr and his points? Plus the fact that there were at least 4 running backs that came from nowhere last year and could have potentially won your league. Jon Stewart, Harrison, Charles, Foster and Forsett. Each running back with the exception of Stewart was sitting on waivers probably week 8. You just cannot plug that type of production in from waiver wire wr. Sure there are exceptions, Austin and rice come to mind but they are few and far between.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I did it for Draftmasters Preimer, a couple of other guys did it too and our teams look good.

3 start WR 1PPR

http://football25.myfantasyleague.com/2010...;FRANCHISE=0000

1.09 9. KellysHeroes (FBG) Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR Sat Jul 24 6:18:56 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.04 16. KellysHeroes (FBG) Marshall, Brandon MIA WR Sat Jul 24 7:37:18 p.m. ET 2010 marshall!!!!

3.04 28. KellysHeroes (FBG) Greene, Shonn NYJ RB Sun Jul 25 9:38:10 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

4.04 40. KellysHeroes (FBG) McCoy, LeSean PHI RB Mon Jul 26 12:21:44 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

5.09 57. KellysHeroes (FBG) Forte, Matt CHI RB Mon Jul 26 4:45:52 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

6.04 64. KellysHeroes (FBG) Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR Mon Jul 26 7:31:25 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

7.09 81. KellysHeroes (FBG) Cutler, Jay CHI QB Tue Jul 27 1:33:32 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

8.04 88. KellysHeroes (FBG) Bush, Michael OAK RB Tue Jul 27 2:16:20 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

9.09 105. KellysHeroes (FBG) Winslow, Kellen TBB TE Wed Jul 28 12:46:41 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

10.04 112. KellysHeroes (FBG) Miller, Heath PIT TE Wed Jul 28 10:18:05 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

11.09 129. KellysHeroes (FBG) Shiancoe, Visanthe MIN TE Wed Jul 28 5:04:10 p.m. ET 2010 im going 3 tes in a row

12.04 136. KellysHeroes (FBG) Burleson, Nate DET WR Wed Jul 28 9:33:08 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

13.09 153. KellysHeroes (FBG) Gonzalez, Anthony IND WR Thu Jul 29 10:34:44 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

14.04 160. KellysHeroes (FBG) Garrard, David JAC QB Thu Jul 29 2:00:31 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

15.09 177. KellysHeroes (FBG) Washington, Nate TEN WR Thu Jul 29 9:48:35 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

16.04 184. KellysHeroes (FBG) Bell, Mike PHI RB Thu Jul 29 11:02:55 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

17.09 201. KellysHeroes (FBG) Bears, Chicago CHI Def Fri Jul 30 12:43:14 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

18.04 208. KellysHeroes (FBG) Longwell, Ryan MIN PK Fri Jul 30 2:58:50 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

19.09 225. KellysHeroes (FBG) Bironas, Rob TEN PK Fri Jul 30 8:39:45 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

20.04 232. KellysHeroes (FBG) Watson, Ben CLE TE Sat Jul 31 10:41:25 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

21.09 249. KellysHeroes (FBG) Browns, Cleveland CLE Def Sat Jul 31 2:48:15 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

22.04 256. KellysHeroes (FBG) Falcons, Atlanta ATL Def Sun Aug 1 12:06:45 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

23.09 273. KellysHeroes (FBG) Bills, Buffalo BUF Def Mon Aug 2 5:15:19 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

24.04 280. KellysHeroes (FBG) Whitehurst, Charlie SEA QB Mon Aug 2 9:18:21 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

25.09 297. KellysHeroes (FBG) Bryant, Matt ATL PK Mon Aug 2 11:11:49 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

 

[Go deep]

Benson is absolutely a RB1 in a 12 team league. He should be going in the mid-to-late 2nd not the 3rd IMO.

Maybe. He has had one decent to good season in his career. Not to mention the fact that when you needed him the most last year he was non existant. Why waste a 2nd on him when I would still consider him a gamble? You could get a proven 2nd tier WR that you know is going to produce. If you are going to gamble on a rb why not wait until the 4rth or 5th to do so?My plan this year is the same for past 3 years. In the first 4 rounds I will grab 3 wr's and 1 qb. then I will feast on the midlevel running backs while the other teams are struggling to fill their wr roster spots. Only 4 RB's preseason top 10 end up finishing in the top 10. Why waste a high pick on a gamble running back when you can have a proven wr and his points? Plus the fact that there were at least 4 running backs that came from nowhere last year and could have potentially won your league. Jon Stewart, Harrison, Charles, Foster and Forsett. Each running back with the exception of Stewart was sitting on waivers probably week 8. You just cannot plug that type of production in from waiver wire wr. Sure there are exceptions, Austin and rice come to mind but they are few and far between.

I think it is just as likely, if not more so to get good value at WR later in the draft than it is RB's. Of course this all still depends on alot of other factors. Fact is in most leagues, RB's are still the most important position based on supply and demand....but if you are comfortable with the RB's you can get in rounds 3-6, then drafting WR's in the first couple rounds is a good way to go. I think each year is different, last year i liked alot of the RB's i could have in the 4th/5th round, so i spent my early picks on WR's. There have been years though were i liked alot of lesser WR talents, and didnt like the RB's i could get in later rounds. So many things factor into a persons strategy for each draft that it is hard to say one way or another which way to draft. Just dont get too caught up in a certain draft plan either way, drafting for value is the only real strategy that works consistently, and there is no way to "plan" for that.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Looking at ADP would you be confident in any of these guys to be your #1 RB ?Jahmal CharlesCedric BensonChris WellsPierre Thomas

I'd be happy with one of the first three. Not Pierre though.I like late RBs better this year than the past few years, but I think it depends on how many roster spots you have in your league. If you have a deep bench you can take a few higher WRs early and then a LOT of RBs late.

 

[djmich]

This strategy seems to be the "in" thing to do but is it really the smart thing to do ?

Looking at ADP would you be confident in any of these guys to be your #1 RB ?

Jahmal Charles

Cedric Benson

Chris Wells

Pierre Thomas

Obviously going this route means you either have two 'stud' WRs or a stud WR and either Brees or Rogers.

Can you do well waiting till the 3rd for your #1 RB ?

What's the scoring system? PPR?Starting lineups? 3 WRs? Potentially plus a flex?

What draft slot are you?

The short answer is "it depends".

This.Up until a year or two ago my two main leagues were start two RB's and two WR's(12 team) and grabbing at least one RB in the first two rounds was a must. This doesnt have to be the case, it can also depend on who your leaguemates are drafting, but in leagues like that, RB's go early and often.

More recently i have been playing in PPR's with flex options, some where you can start 1 RB and 4 WR's. In this kind of league, i would have no problem waiting until the 4th/5th to take my first RB. As a matter of fact, that is exactly what i have done in a few drafts i finished recently. It helps that i really like a few RB's i know will last until the 4th/5th rounds. Which also has to be factored into your strategy.

It all depends on your league size, scoring, lineup requirements, etc.

Flex options are really throwing me off. I want to take AJ #5 in a startup dynasty. But Using draft dominator when i input starters as 2RB, 3WR, 2 flex. it basically says WR should go off the board into the late 30's. Without the flex it says AJ goes #6. Do flex positions make that much of a difference?

 

[Go deep]

This strategy seems to be the "in" thing to do but is it really the smart thing to do ?

Looking at ADP would you be confident in any of these guys to be your #1 RB ?

Jahmal Charles

Cedric Benson

Chris Wells

Pierre Thomas

Obviously going this route means you either have two 'stud' WRs or a stud WR and either Brees or Rogers.

Can you do well waiting till the 3rd for your #1 RB ?

What's the scoring system? PPR?Starting lineups? 3 WRs? Potentially plus a flex?

What draft slot are you?

The short answer is "it depends".

This.Up until a year or two ago my two main leagues were start two RB's and two WR's(12 team) and grabbing at least one RB in the first two rounds was a must. This doesnt have to be the case, it can also depend on who your leaguemates are drafting, but in leagues like that, RB's go early and often.

More recently i have been playing in PPR's with flex options, some where you can start 1 RB and 4 WR's. In this kind of league, i would have no problem waiting until the 4th/5th to take my first RB. As a matter of fact, that is exactly what i have done in a few drafts i finished recently. It helps that i really like a few RB's i know will last until the 4th/5th rounds. Which also has to be factored into your strategy.

It all depends on your league size, scoring, lineup requirements, etc.

Flex options are really throwing me off. I want to take AJ #5 in a startup dynasty. But Using draft dominator when i input starters as 2RB, 3WR, 2 flex. it basically says WR should go off the board into the late 30's. Without the flex it says AJ goes #6. Do flex positions make that much of a difference?

Not sure if using the Draft dominator for a dynasty is the best idea. Although since i never used it, i cant say for sure.In a dynasty league in which you can start up to 5 WR's, i would not hesitate to take AJ at the 5 spot. Its a no-brainer in a PPR, and still a good idea in non-PPR. Even though RB's are harder to come by, and score more points(non-PPR), they are not nearly as dependable as WR's. Not only do WR's play at their peak well into their 30's, they are less likely to get injured during the season.

Speaking from personal experience, when i started doing dynasty leagues, i was a RB hoarder. While i had some success, i noticed that teams were building consistent winners without great RB's. Over the last few years i have rebuilt my teams around WR's and have had much more success. Trying to predict which WR's will remain in the top 10 three years from now is alot easier than RB's. I wouldnt totally write off rB's in the early rounds, but their is always better value at WR than RB in early rounds of dynasty start-ups.

The one thing i have always stuck by is never take a QB early unless one represents excellent value. I know there are some/alot of people on this board who will disagree, and have had success drafting QB's early, but in start one QB leagues, there is just too much QB value in rounds 7 and beyond to be spending top picks on them.

ETA, Are you saying the DD suggested not taking the top WR until round 3? That cant be right.

 

[lazyike]

in a 14 man pool, TD heavy (all 6pts.)picking at the later numbers, your best bet is to go QB/WR, value wise... getting a studmuffing like rodgers, brees, manning and airing it with a dirty WR like austin, white, or whoever... plenty of value in that regard. or WR/WR works too... tho im more comfortable with a stud QB that late in a 14.3rd round, u double up on an addai+stewart, or if youre lucky... any of the guys u listed is there...so ya, ive done it... its worked... finished 2nd of 14... its all about who grab in the 5th-9th rounds that really make the difference.(start 3wr, 2rb type league)

Going QB/WR is a bad idea IMO. You end up with a #2 RB for your #1RB and a #3RB for your #2RB and likely a #3WR for your #2WR, I perfer stocking up on WR/RB in rounds 1-5, especially in PPR scoring and will wait for a E.Manning,Flacco or Palmer in rounds 6-7.In PPR scoring if I'm going to look a little weak I want it to be at RB more than WR so I think you can wait until round 3 for your RB.

 

[Eviloutsider]

Just finished a mock where I went WRx3 and then QB.

Following that I took 5 RBs and ended up with Stewert, Jacobs, Harrison, Bush, (Zach Miller), and then Portis.

A team with Wayne, Fitz, Colston, Romo will be consistent and then you can sprinkle in matchups that you like from the above, I think I could make that work. I don't know if I could be ballsy enough to do it in a real league however.

 

[montana_grizzly_bears]

I think it depends on your league. I have been doing mocks lately and going WR WR WR and still ending up with what I think are half way decent rb's. Usually Best, Addai, Forte, or McCoy. You end up having to wait until round 7 or so for a qb but still looks like a good team.

 

[djmich]

This strategy seems to be the "in" thing to do but is it really the smart thing to do ?

Looking at ADP would you be confident in any of these guys to be your #1 RB ?

Jahmal Charles

Cedric Benson

Chris Wells

Pierre Thomas

Obviously going this route means you either have two 'stud' WRs or a stud WR and either Brees or Rogers.

Can you do well waiting till the 3rd for your #1 RB ?

What's the scoring system? PPR?Starting lineups? 3 WRs? Potentially plus a flex?

What draft slot are you?

The short answer is "it depends".

This.Up until a year or two ago my two main leagues were start two RB's and two WR's(12 team) and grabbing at least one RB in the first two rounds was a must. This doesnt have to be the case, it can also depend on who your leaguemates are drafting, but in leagues like that, RB's go early and often.

More recently i have been playing in PPR's with flex options, some where you can start 1 RB and 4 WR's. In this kind of league, i would have no problem waiting until the 4th/5th to take my first RB. As a matter of fact, that is exactly what i have done in a few drafts i finished recently. It helps that i really like a few RB's i know will last until the 4th/5th rounds. Which also has to be factored into your strategy.

It all depends on your league size, scoring, lineup requirements, etc.

Flex options are really throwing me off. I want to take AJ #5 in a startup dynasty. But Using draft dominator when i input starters as 2RB, 3WR, 2 flex. it basically says WR should go off the board into the late 30's. Without the flex it says AJ goes #6. Do flex positions make that much of a difference?

Not sure if using the Draft dominator for a dynasty is the best idea. Although since i never used it, i cant say for sure.In a dynasty league in which you can start up to 5 WR's, i would not hesitate to take AJ at the 5 spot. Its a no-brainer in a PPR, and still a good idea in non-PPR. Even though RB's are harder to come by, and score more points(non-PPR), they are not nearly as dependable as WR's. Not only do WR's play at their peak well into their 30's, they are less likely to get injured during the season.

Speaking from personal experience, when i started doing dynasty leagues, i was a RB hoarder. While i had some success, i noticed that teams were building consistent winners without great RB's. Over the last few years i have rebuilt my teams around WR's and have had much more success. Trying to predict which WR's will remain in the top 10 three years from now is alot easier than RB's. I wouldnt totally write off rB's in the early rounds, but their is always better value at WR than RB in early rounds of dynasty start-ups.

The one thing i have always stuck by is never take a QB early unless one represents excellent value. I know there are some/alot of people on this board who will disagree, and have had success drafting QB's early, but in start one QB leagues, there is just too much QB value in rounds 7 and beyond to be spending top picks on them.

ETA, Are you saying the DD suggested not taking the top WR until round 3? That cant be right.

Yes, I tweaked something else that changed things a bit, but with 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex it suggests taking Andre Johnson #24. If I go to no flex it says #6.Understand that you can't use DD for dynasty, but was trying to use it to gauge relative value based on the league setup.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

In one league that just drafted I didn't take my 1st RB until the 4th round. I am not going to reach for one just to fill a slot. It is a 1 QB, 2 RB, 3WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF league and I started off my first 3 picks with Calvin, Miles Austin and Greg Jennings. At every pick I just felt those guys were the best value on the board. At RB I ended up with Benson (Rd 4), Felix (Rd 5), M. Bush (Rd 7), Hardesty (Rd 9) and Arian Foster (Rd 12). I am perfectly fine with that RB corps, considering my strength at WR. Others may not be comfortable with that crew. It all depends on the owner.

Why did you draft Calvin Johnson in the 1st round besides the fact that you're a Lions fan? Did you not think he'd be available in the 2nd round?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I did it for Draftmasters Preimer, a couple of other guys did it too and our teams look good.

3 start WR 1PPR

http://football25.myfantasyleague.com/2010...;FRANCHISE=0000

1.09 9. KellysHeroes (FBG) Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR Sat Jul 24 6:18:56 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.04 16. KellysHeroes (FBG) Marshall, Brandon MIA WR Sat Jul 24 7:37:18 p.m. ET 2010 marshall!!!!

3.04 28. KellysHeroes (FBG) Greene, Shonn NYJ RB Sun Jul 25 9:38:10 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

4.04 40. KellysHeroes (FBG) McCoy, LeSean PHI RB Mon Jul 26 12:21:44 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

5.09 57. KellysHeroes (FBG) Forte, Matt CHI RB Mon Jul 26 4:45:52 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

6.04 64. KellysHeroes (FBG) Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR Mon Jul 26 7:31:25 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

7.09 81. KellysHeroes (FBG) Cutler, Jay CHI QB Tue Jul 27 1:33:32 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

8.04 88. KellysHeroes (FBG) Bush, Michael OAK RB Tue Jul 27 2:16:20 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

9.09 105. KellysHeroes (FBG) Winslow, Kellen TBB TE Wed Jul 28 12:46:41 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

10.04 112. KellysHeroes (FBG) Miller, Heath PIT TE Wed Jul 28 10:18:05 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

11.09 129. KellysHeroes (FBG) Shiancoe, Visanthe MIN TE Wed Jul 28 5:04:10 p.m. ET 2010 im going 3 tes in a row

12.04 136. KellysHeroes (FBG) Burleson, Nate DET WR Wed Jul 28 9:33:08 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

13.09 153. KellysHeroes (FBG) Gonzalez, Anthony IND WR Thu Jul 29 10:34:44 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

14.04 160. KellysHeroes (FBG) Garrard, David JAC QB Thu Jul 29 2:00:31 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

15.09 177. KellysHeroes (FBG) Washington, Nate TEN WR Thu Jul 29 9:48:35 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

16.04 184. KellysHeroes (FBG) Bell, Mike PHI RB Thu Jul 29 11:02:55 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

17.09 201. KellysHeroes (FBG) Bears, Chicago CHI Def Fri Jul 30 12:43:14 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

18.04 208. KellysHeroes (FBG) Longwell, Ryan MIN PK Fri Jul 30 2:58:50 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

19.09 225. KellysHeroes (FBG) Bironas, Rob TEN PK Fri Jul 30 8:39:45 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

20.04 232. KellysHeroes (FBG) Watson, Ben CLE TE Sat Jul 31 10:41:25 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

21.09 249. KellysHeroes (FBG) Browns, Cleveland CLE Def Sat Jul 31 2:48:15 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

22.04 256. KellysHeroes (FBG) Falcons, Atlanta ATL Def Sun Aug 1 12:06:45 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

23.09 273. KellysHeroes (FBG) Bills, Buffalo BUF Def Mon Aug 2 5:15:19 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

24.04 280. KellysHeroes (FBG) Whitehurst, Charlie SEA QB Mon Aug 2 9:18:21 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

25.09 297. KellysHeroes (FBG) Bryant, Matt ATL PK Mon Aug 2 11:11:49 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

pay attention boys, this is a very nice draft. If not for 3RR though Green might not have been there. Although in PPR leagues he does slide pretty far

 

[Ramos]

I did it for Draftmasters Preimer, a couple of other guys did it too and our teams look good.

3 start WR 1PPR

http://football25.myfantasyleague.com/2010...;FRANCHISE=0000

1.09 9. KellysHeroes (FBG) Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR Sat Jul 24 6:18:56 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.04 16. KellysHeroes (FBG) Marshall, Brandon MIA WR Sat Jul 24 7:37:18 p.m. ET 2010 marshall!!!!

3.04 28. KellysHeroes (FBG) Greene, Shonn NYJ RB Sun Jul 25 9:38:10 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

4.04 40. KellysHeroes (FBG) McCoy, LeSean PHI RB Mon Jul 26 12:21:44 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

5.09 57. KellysHeroes (FBG) Forte, Matt CHI RB Mon Jul 26 4:45:52 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

6.04 64. KellysHeroes (FBG) Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR Mon Jul 26 7:31:25 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

7.09 81. KellysHeroes (FBG) Cutler, Jay CHI QB Tue Jul 27 1:33:32 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

pay attention boys, this is a very nice draft. If not for 3RR though Green might not have been there. Although in PPR leagues he does slide pretty far

I like it but I wouldn't want to depend on Cutler as my starter. Having a bad QB makes FF almost no fun. Cutler will still have 15+ insts this year Martz or no Martz.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I did it for Draftmasters Preimer, a couple of other guys did it too and our teams look good.

3 start WR 1PPR

http://football25.myfantasyleague.com/2010...;FRANCHISE=0000

1.09 9. KellysHeroes (FBG) Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR Sat Jul 24 6:18:56 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.04 16. KellysHeroes (FBG) Marshall, Brandon MIA WR Sat Jul 24 7:37:18 p.m. ET 2010 marshall!!!!

3.04 28. KellysHeroes (FBG) Greene, Shonn NYJ RB Sun Jul 25 9:38:10 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

4.04 40. KellysHeroes (FBG) McCoy, LeSean PHI RB Mon Jul 26 12:21:44 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

5.09 57. KellysHeroes (FBG) Forte, Matt CHI RB Mon Jul 26 4:45:52 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

6.04 64. KellysHeroes (FBG) Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR Mon Jul 26 7:31:25 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

7.09 81. KellysHeroes (FBG) Cutler, Jay CHI QB Tue Jul 27 1:33:32 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

pay attention boys, this is a very nice draft. If not for 3RR though Green might not have been there. Although in PPR leagues he does slide pretty far

I like it but I wouldn't want to depend on Cutler as my starter. Having a bad QB makes FF almost no fun. Cutler will still have 15+ insts this year Martz or no Martz.

Thanks Sniffer... if it was standard snake draft I would of ended up with Wells instead of Greene

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I did it for Draftmasters Preimer, a couple of other guys did it too and our teams look good.

3 start WR 1PPR

http://football25.myfantasyleague.com/2010...;FRANCHISE=0000

1.09 9. KellysHeroes (FBG) Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR Sat Jul 24 6:18:56 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.04 16. KellysHeroes (FBG) Marshall, Brandon MIA WR Sat Jul 24 7:37:18 p.m. ET 2010 marshall!!!!

3.04 28. KellysHeroes (FBG) Greene, Shonn NYJ RB Sun Jul 25 9:38:10 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

4.04 40. KellysHeroes (FBG) McCoy, LeSean PHI RB Mon Jul 26 12:21:44 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

5.09 57. KellysHeroes (FBG) Forte, Matt CHI RB Mon Jul 26 4:45:52 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

6.04 64. KellysHeroes (FBG) Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR Mon Jul 26 7:31:25 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

7.09 81. KellysHeroes (FBG) Cutler, Jay CHI QB Tue Jul 27 1:33:32 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

pay attention boys, this is a very nice draft. If not for 3RR though Green might not have been there. Although in PPR leagues he does slide pretty far

I like it but I wouldn't want to depend on Cutler as my starter. Having a bad QB makes FF almost no fun. Cutler will still have 15+ insts this year Martz or no Martz.

Cutler will be fine, the Ints hurt sure.KH where did Kolb/M.Ryan go? I would of rather grabbed one of them to pair w Cutler than Garrard

 

[Clifford]

This strategy seems to be the "in" thing to do but is it really the smart thing to do ?Looking at ADP would you be confident in any of these guys to be your #1 RB ?Jahmal CharlesCedric BensonChris WellsPierre ThomasObviously going this route means you either have two 'stud' WRs or a stud WR and either Brees or Rogers.Can you do well waiting till the 3rd for your #1 RB ?12 team- no PPR - 3 WR, 2RB, 1 TEbut I think this is a great topic no matter what the league type-

I think Charles, Benson, and even Wells could easily be gone by the end of the second in some drafts. Don't plan, adjust and adapt.

 

[montana_grizzly_bears]

This was my mock I did last night.

Final Roster

Pos Name Bye Team Pick

QB Carson Palmer 6 CIN R7 P5

QB Matt Ryan 8 ATL R8 P6

RB Matt Forte 8 CHI R4 P6

RB Jahvid Best 7 DET R5 P5

RB Ricky Williams 5 MIA R9 P5

RB Cadillac Williams 4 TB R12 P6

RB Laurence Maroney 5 NE R13 P5

RB Justin Forsett 5 SEA R14 P6

WR Andre Johnson 7 HOU R1 P5

WR Reggie Wayne 7 IND R2 P6

WR Miles Austin 4 DAL R3 P5

WR Terrell Owens 6 CIN R10 P6

WR Devin Thomas 9 WAS R11 P5

TE Jason Witten 4 DAL R6 P6

K David Akers 8 PHI R16 P6

DEF San Francisco 49ers 9 SF R15 P5

 

[jude]

if i look down and i have benson and carnell williams is my 1-2, I am not gong to be happy.

 

[ATC1]

I did it for Draftmasters Preimer, a couple of other guys did it too and our teams look good.

3 start WR 1PPR

http://football25.myfantasyleague.com/2010...;FRANCHISE=0000

1.09 9. KellysHeroes (FBG) Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR Sat Jul 24 6:18:56 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.04 16. KellysHeroes (FBG) Marshall, Brandon MIA WR Sat Jul 24 7:37:18 p.m. ET 2010 marshall!!!!

3.04 28. KellysHeroes (FBG) Greene, Shonn NYJ RB Sun Jul 25 9:38:10 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

4.04 40. KellysHeroes (FBG) McCoy, LeSean PHI RB Mon Jul 26 12:21:44 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

5.09 57. KellysHeroes (FBG) Forte, Matt CHI RB Mon Jul 26 4:45:52 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

6.04 64. KellysHeroes (FBG) Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR Mon Jul 26 7:31:25 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

7.09 81. KellysHeroes (FBG) Cutler, Jay CHI QB Tue Jul 27 1:33:32 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

pay attention boys, this is a very nice draft. If not for 3RR though Green might not have been there. Although in PPR leagues he does slide pretty far

I like it but I wouldn't want to depend on Cutler as my starter. Having a bad QB makes FF almost no fun. Cutler will still have 15+ insts this year Martz or no Martz.

Thanks Sniffer... if it was standard snake draft I would of ended up with Wells instead of Greene

3 DEF and 3 PKs when you only start 1 per week? 4 TEs? I would have taken Maroney at 9.09 as the last viable starting RB then follow up with a few picks later. Overall I'm liking it.

 

[JMJ]

I will never stop drafting RBs early and often. Not only is it a proven strategy to winning Fantasy Football, they are also GOLD when it comes to trade talks. So if 5 weeks into the year your RB3 or RB4 is performing like a legit RB2 and you see no signs of it stopping, if you put a guy like Ryan Grant or Shonn Greene or Cedric Benson up on the trading block you can receive back a fool's ransom for them and really take your team to the next level.

People can always seem to find WRs, TEs, and even QBs in a pinch mid-year when they are needed. All owners are forever on the hunt for RBs during the season though. It pays to be rich at that position both in your lineup and outside of it.

 

[Clifford]

This was my mock I did last night. Final Roster Pos Name Bye Team Pick QB Carson Palmer 6 CIN R7 P5QB Matt Ryan 8 ATL R8 P6 RB Matt Forte 8 CHI R4 P6RB Jahvid Best 7 DET R5 P5 RB Ricky Williams 5 MIA R9 P5 RB Cadillac Williams 4 TB R12 P6 RB Laurence Maroney 5 NE R13 P5 RB Justin Forsett 5 SEA R14 P6 WR Andre Johnson 7 HOU R1 P5WR Reggie Wayne 7 IND R2 P6WR Miles Austin 4 DAL R3 P5WR Terrell Owens 6 CIN R10 P6 WR Devin Thomas 9 WAS R11 P5TE Jason Witten 4 DAL R6 P6K David Akers 8 PHI R16 P6DEF San Francisco 49ers 9 SF R15 P5

Not crazy about this team. All your talent is at one position, and the most flighty of positions in terms of dependable, consistent production. You will need some serious luck for any of your QBs or RBs to finish in the top ten. In fact, just picking who to start there will be a headache every week. Had you gone RB in the first I think this team would look a lot better.

 

[ATC1]

I will never stop drafting RBs early and often. Not only is it a proven strategy to winning Fantasy Football, they are also GOLD when it comes to trade talks. So if 5 weeks into the year your RB3 or RB4 is performing like a legit RB2 and you see no signs of it stopping, if you put a guy like Ryan Grant or Shonn Greene or Cedric Benson up on the trading block you can receive back a fool's ransom for them and really take your team to the next level.People can always seem to find WRs, TEs, and even QBs in a pinch mid-year when they are needed. Everyone is forever on the hunt for RBs during the season. It pays to be rich at that position both in your lineup and outside of it.

I think this is the old way of thinking. If people over value RBs it's a lot easier to get the studs at other positions. I feel I can pick out the RBs that will produce better than their ADPs later than finding that WR/TE gem year in and year out. I also find that you never get the value you want in a trade for a RB, and those wasted points remain on your bench several weeks while you could of had those stud QB/WR/TE numbers.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

In one league that just drafted I didn't take my 1st RB until the 4th round. I am not going to reach for one just to fill a slot. It is a 1 QB, 2 RB, 3WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF league and I started off my first 3 picks with Calvin, Miles Austin and Greg Jennings. At every pick I just felt those guys were the best value on the board. At RB I ended up with Benson (Rd 4), Felix (Rd 5), M. Bush (Rd 7), Hardesty (Rd 9) and Arian Foster (Rd 12). I am perfectly fine with that RB corps, considering my strength at WR. Others may not be comfortable with that crew. It all depends on the owner.

Why did you draft Calvin Johnson in the 1st round besides the fact that you're a Lions fan? Did you not think he'd be available in the 2nd round?

It was the 12-1 turn, so if it makes a difference he could have been my 2nd rounder with Miles Austin as my 1st rounder.

 

[JMJ]

I will never stop drafting RBs early and often. Not only is it a proven strategy to winning Fantasy Football, they are also GOLD when it comes to trade talks. So if 5 weeks into the year your RB3 or RB4 is performing like a legit RB2 and you see no signs of it stopping, if you put a guy like Ryan Grant or Shonn Greene or Cedric Benson up on the trading block you can receive back a fool's ransom for them and really take your team to the next level.People can always seem to find WRs, TEs, and even QBs in a pinch mid-year when they are needed. Everyone is forever on the hunt for RBs during the season. It pays to be rich at that position both in your lineup and outside of it.

I think this is the old way of thinking. If people over value RBs it's a lot easier to get the studs at other positions. I feel I can pick out the RBs that will produce better than their ADPs later than finding that WR/TE gem year in and year out. I also find that you never get the value you want in a trade for a RB, and those wasted points remain on your bench several weeks while you could of had those stud QB/WR/TE numbers.

I can see what you're saying, but we'll have to agree to disagree. I think it is always easier to find solid WRs late in the draft (Donald Driver, Hines Ward, Derrick Mason types) who put up their 1,000 yards and handful of TDs year in, and year out.Early, I'm loading up my squad with RBs. The good ones are the most consistent players, most coveted players, and also most INJURED players. Another reason I want a lot of them. If you go WR, WR, WR, and your lead RB is a guy like Matt Forte (if you're lucky), and he gets hurt, your season is all but over. If I draft 3 RBs in the first 4 rounds ... I can start all 3 when all are healthy, and if one gets hurt, my season barely misses a blip as I still have 2 stud RBs and plug in a WR at my flex.

 

[pantherclub]

I will never stop drafting RBs early and often. Not only is it a proven strategy to winning Fantasy Football, they are also GOLD when it comes to trade talks. So if 5 weeks into the year your RB3 or RB4 is performing like a legit RB2 and you see no signs of it stopping, if you put a guy like Ryan Grant or Shonn Greene or Cedric Benson up on the trading block you can receive back a fool's ransom for them and really take your team to the next level.People can always seem to find WRs, TEs, and even QBs in a pinch mid-year when they are needed. Everyone is forever on the hunt for RBs during the season. It pays to be rich at that position both in your lineup and outside of it.

I think this is the old way of thinking. If people over value RBs it's a lot easier to get the studs at other positions. I feel I can pick out the RBs that will produce better than their ADPs later than finding that WR/TE gem year in and year out. I also find that you never get the value you want in a trade for a RB, and those wasted points remain on your bench several weeks while you could of had those stud QB/WR/TE numbers.

Great post. You keep drafting rb's and let them ride the bench while nobody I have ever played with will trade for equal value as they see right through your strategy. You have points on the bench and they are not giving up a wr1 or wr2 for that. Plus the variable of injuries to starting rb's and wr are not the same. you can not just plug in a reserve wr that is taking over for an injury and expect points. With a rb you easily can. Going top heavy on running backs was the strategy from the mid 90's to about 2002. then the league became a passing league and the dreaded RBBC started to appear.

 

[bonesman]

I did it for Draftmasters Preimer, a couple of other guys did it too and our teams look good.

3 start WR 1PPR

http://football25.myfantasyleague.com/2010...;FRANCHISE=0000

1.09 9. KellysHeroes (FBG) Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR Sat Jul 24 6:18:56 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.04 16. KellysHeroes (FBG) Marshall, Brandon MIA WR Sat Jul 24 7:37:18 p.m. ET 2010 marshall!!!!

3.04 28. KellysHeroes (FBG) Greene, Shonn NYJ RB Sun Jul 25 9:38:10 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

4.04 40. KellysHeroes (FBG) McCoy, LeSean PHI RB Mon Jul 26 12:21:44 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

5.09 57. KellysHeroes (FBG) Forte, Matt CHI RB Mon Jul 26 4:45:52 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

6.04 64. KellysHeroes (FBG) Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR Mon Jul 26 7:31:25 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

7.09 81. KellysHeroes (FBG) Cutler, Jay CHI QB Tue Jul 27 1:33:32 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

pay attention boys, this is a very nice draft. If not for 3RR though Green might not have been there. Although in PPR leagues he does slide pretty far

I like it but I wouldn't want to depend on Cutler as my starter. Having a bad QB makes FF almost no fun. Cutler will still have 15+ insts this year Martz or no Martz.

Cutler will be fine, the Ints hurt sure.KH where did Kolb/M.Ryan go? I would of rather grabbed one of them to pair w Cutler than Garrard

Both went before Cutler in the 7th.

 

[JMJ]

I will never stop drafting RBs early and often. Not only is it a proven strategy to winning Fantasy Football, they are also GOLD when it comes to trade talks. So if 5 weeks into the year your RB3 or RB4 is performing like a legit RB2 and you see no signs of it stopping, if you put a guy like Ryan Grant or Shonn Greene or Cedric Benson up on the trading block you can receive back a fool's ransom for them and really take your team to the next level.People can always seem to find WRs, TEs, and even QBs in a pinch mid-year when they are needed. Everyone is forever on the hunt for RBs during the season. It pays to be rich at that position both in your lineup and outside of it.

I think this is the old way of thinking. If people over value RBs it's a lot easier to get the studs at other positions. I feel I can pick out the RBs that will produce better than their ADPs later than finding that WR/TE gem year in and year out. I also find that you never get the value you want in a trade for a RB, and those wasted points remain on your bench several weeks while you could of had those stud QB/WR/TE numbers.

Great post. You keep drafting rb's and let them ride the bench while nobody I have ever played with will trade for equal value as they see right through your strategy. You have points on the bench and they are not giving up a wr1 or wr2 for that. Plus the variable of injuries to starting rb's and wr are not the same. you can not just plug in a reserve wr that is taking over for an injury and expect points. With a rb you easily can. Going top heavy on running backs was the strategy from the mid 90's to about 2002. then the league became a passing league and the dreaded RBBC started to appear.

My league can start 3 RBs. 2 starters and flex.Doesn't pretty much every league in the world have a flex spot by now?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I will never stop drafting RBs early and often. Not only is it a proven strategy to winning Fantasy Football, they are also GOLD when it comes to trade talks. So if 5 weeks into the year your RB3 or RB4 is performing like a legit RB2 and you see no signs of it stopping, if you put a guy like Ryan Grant or Shonn Greene or Cedric Benson up on the trading block you can receive back a fool's ransom for them and really take your team to the next level.People can always seem to find WRs, TEs, and even QBs in a pinch mid-year when they are needed. Everyone is forever on the hunt for RBs during the season. It pays to be rich at that position both in your lineup and outside of it.

I think this is the old way of thinking. If people over value RBs it's a lot easier to get the studs at other positions. I feel I can pick out the RBs that will produce better than their ADPs later than finding that WR/TE gem year in and year out. I also find that you never get the value you want in a trade for a RB, and those wasted points remain on your bench several weeks while you could of had those stud QB/WR/TE numbers.

Agreed the RB-RB-RB drafting method has gone the way of the dinosaur

 

[JMJ]

I will never stop drafting RBs early and often. Not only is it a proven strategy to winning Fantasy Football, they are also GOLD when it comes to trade talks. So if 5 weeks into the year your RB3 or RB4 is performing like a legit RB2 and you see no signs of it stopping, if you put a guy like Ryan Grant or Shonn Greene or Cedric Benson up on the trading block you can receive back a fool's ransom for them and really take your team to the next level.People can always seem to find WRs, TEs, and even QBs in a pinch mid-year when they are needed. Everyone is forever on the hunt for RBs during the season. It pays to be rich at that position both in your lineup and outside of it.

I think this is the old way of thinking. If people over value RBs it's a lot easier to get the studs at other positions. I feel I can pick out the RBs that will produce better than their ADPs later than finding that WR/TE gem year in and year out. I also find that you never get the value you want in a trade for a RB, and those wasted points remain on your bench several weeks while you could of had those stud QB/WR/TE numbers.

Agreed the RB-RB-RB drafting method has gone the way of the dinosaur

I have gone RB-WR-RB-RB and RB-RB-QB-RB the past 2 years.Both served me very well.

 

[pantherclub]

I will never stop drafting RBs early and often. Not only is it a proven strategy to winning Fantasy Football, they are also GOLD when it comes to trade talks. So if 5 weeks into the year your RB3 or RB4 is performing like a legit RB2 and you see no signs of it stopping, if you put a guy like Ryan Grant or Shonn Greene or Cedric Benson up on the trading block you can receive back a fool's ransom for them and really take your team to the next level.People can always seem to find WRs, TEs, and even QBs in a pinch mid-year when they are needed. Everyone is forever on the hunt for RBs during the season. It pays to be rich at that position both in your lineup and outside of it.

I think this is the old way of thinking. If people over value RBs it's a lot easier to get the studs at other positions. I feel I can pick out the RBs that will produce better than their ADPs later than finding that WR/TE gem year in and year out. I also find that you never get the value you want in a trade for a RB, and those wasted points remain on your bench several weeks while you could of had those stud QB/WR/TE numbers.

Agreed the RB-RB-RB drafting method has gone the way of the dinosaur

I think even drafting rb-rb is way outdated. I only pick a rb in the first if I have the top 4-5 pick. then you simply need to grab the best wr there is and be done with that. After the top few running backs its a crapshoot. In a lot of the mocks it seems that teams are going rb-wr-qb to lock up the 3 top positions with solid proven producers.

 

[Clifford]

I still think without one stud RB you will have a very hard time fielding a championship team, and it's really, really hard to find a true stud at that position outside of the first two rounds, and really in most drafts the first.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I still think without one stud RB you will have a very hard time fielding a championship team, and it's really, really hard to find a true stud at that position outside of the first two rounds, and really in most drafts the first.

so after Picks 1 - 4 your screwed; because theres only 4 stud RBs left

 

[ATC1]

I will never stop drafting RBs early and often. Not only is it a proven strategy to winning Fantasy Football, they are also GOLD when it comes to trade talks. So if 5 weeks into the year your RB3 or RB4 is performing like a legit RB2 and you see no signs of it stopping, if you put a guy like Ryan Grant or Shonn Greene or Cedric Benson up on the trading block you can receive back a fool's ransom for them and really take your team to the next level.People can always seem to find WRs, TEs, and even QBs in a pinch mid-year when they are needed. Everyone is forever on the hunt for RBs during the season. It pays to be rich at that position both in your lineup and outside of it.

I think this is the old way of thinking. If people over value RBs it's a lot easier to get the studs at other positions. I feel I can pick out the RBs that will produce better than their ADPs later than finding that WR/TE gem year in and year out. I also find that you never get the value you want in a trade for a RB, and those wasted points remain on your bench several weeks while you could of had those stud QB/WR/TE numbers.

I can see what you're saying, but we'll have to agree to disagree. I think it is always easier to find solid WRs late in the draft (Donald Driver, Hines Ward, Derrick Mason types) who put up their 1,000 yards and handful of TDs year in, and year out.Early, I'm loading up my squad with RBs. The good ones are the most consistent players, most coveted players, and also most INJURED players. Another reason I want a lot of them. If you go WR, WR, WR, and your lead RB is a guy like Matt Forte (if you're lucky), and he gets hurt, your season is all but over. If I draft 3 RBs in the first 4 rounds ... I can start all 3 when all are healthy, and if one gets hurt, my season barely misses a blip as I still have 2 stud RBs and plug in a WR at my flex.

It's all about your league starting requirements, but if I go WR/WR/QB/TE in the 1st 4 rounds in standard leagues my next 3-4 picks will be RBs. Stud TE or QB i can wait until much later. I can find WR depth in the later rounds as well because the ADP for the late WRs jump all over the place. There will be someone I would not mind as a WR3. I like several RBs later this year. Forte, Addai, Best, Brown. Then Bradshaw, Forsett, Barber. Then Portis, Maroney, Caddy.

 

[ATC1]

I still think without one stud RB you will have a very hard time fielding a championship team, and it's really, really hard to find a true stud at that position outside of the first two rounds, and really in most drafts the first.

But if you don't have a pick in the top half of the 1st you don't have a chance at that top Stud RB.

 

[bonesman]

I still think without one stud RB you will have a very hard time fielding a championship team, and it's really, really hard to find a true stud at that position outside of the first two rounds, and really in most drafts the first.

All the more reason to pass on RB early and take a "true stud" at another position and then shot-gun fire at RB in later rounds and hope you hit on a couple (Benson, Rice, Fred Jackson, Jamaal Charles of 09)

 

[KellysHeroes]

I did it for Draftmasters Preimer, a couple of other guys did it too and our teams look good.

3 start WR 1PPR

http://football25.myfantasyleague.com/2010...;FRANCHISE=0000

1.09 9. KellysHeroes (FBG) Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR Sat Jul 24 6:18:56 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.04 16. KellysHeroes (FBG) Marshall, Brandon MIA WR Sat Jul 24 7:37:18 p.m. ET 2010 marshall!!!!

3.04 28. KellysHeroes (FBG) Greene, Shonn NYJ RB Sun Jul 25 9:38:10 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

4.04 40. KellysHeroes (FBG) McCoy, LeSean PHI RB Mon Jul 26 12:21:44 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

5.09 57. KellysHeroes (FBG) Forte, Matt CHI RB Mon Jul 26 4:45:52 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

6.04 64. KellysHeroes (FBG) Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR Mon Jul 26 7:31:25 p.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

7.09 81. KellysHeroes (FBG) Cutler, Jay CHI QB Tue Jul 27 1:33:32 a.m. ET 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

pay attention boys, this is a very nice draft. If not for 3RR though Green might not have been there. Although in PPR leagues he does slide pretty far

I like it but I wouldn't want to depend on Cutler as my starter. Having a bad QB makes FF almost no fun. Cutler will still have 15+ insts this year Martz or no Martz.

Cutler will be fine, the Ints hurt sure.KH where did Kolb/M.Ryan go? I would of rather grabbed one of them to pair w Cutler than Garrard

Both went before Cutler in the 7th.

Jay was a steal as the 12th QB taken

 

[pantherclub]

I still think without one stud RB you will have a very hard time fielding a championship team, and it's really, really hard to find a true stud at that position outside of the first two rounds, and really in most drafts the first.

That is so not true. Not even remotely close to true. Only 4 out of the top 10 preseason ranked rb's end up in the top 10 at the end of the year. Any running back can get hot and carry you. Look at harrison, charles, dude from seattle, or dude from houston last year. Each one of these guys could have won you the title by the way they were playing. Look at 2 years ago when dwill went absolutely insane and won a ton of titles. He wasnt picked anywhere close to the top 8 rounds that year. Without getting a top 3-4 running back then it starts sliding into the gamble territory. Whereas you know AJ, Fitz, Wayne, Moss, Marshall, jennings and probably now White are good for their numbers and they can be had at the end of the 1rst throughout the 2nd. The same cannot be said for guys like Matthews, benson, Mendenhall, Geene or Thomas. These are the players with adp in the 2nd round. Sure they may work out but its probably just as likely as they wont. Why not get guarenteed numbers and then gamble with your running backs from the 4rth-5th on? You will also have you pickens of running backs as mostly everyone else with your mindset is now struggling to fill out their WR slots.

 

[pantherclub]

I still think without one stud RB you will have a very hard time fielding a championship team, and it's really, really hard to find a true stud at that position outside of the first two rounds, and really in most drafts the first.

so after Picks 1 - 4 your screwed; because theres only 4 stud RBs left

I didnt say that, just that there are only about 4-5 guys that you know you can count on for points. ADP, Johnson, MJD, probably Rice and gore. You can argue Sjax but if you want him on your team knowing how bad St Louis is going to be then go for it.

 

[bonesman]

I still think without one stud RB you will have a very hard time fielding a championship team, and it's really, really hard to find a true stud at that position outside of the first two rounds, and really in most drafts the first.

That is so not true. Not even remotely close to true. Only 4 out of the top 10 preseason ranked rb's end up in the top 10 at the end of the year. Any running back can get hot and carry you. Look at harrison, charles, dude from seattle, or dude from houston last year. Each one of these guys could have won you the title by the way they were playing. Look at 2 years ago when dwill went absolutely insane and won a ton of titles. He wasnt picked anywhere close to the top 8 rounds that year. Without getting a top 3-4 running back then it starts sliding into the gamble territory. Whereas you know AJ, Fitz, Wayne, Moss, Marshall, jennings and probably now White are good for their numbers and they can be had at the end of the 1rst throughout the 2nd. The same cannot be said for guys like Matthews, benson, Mendenhall, Geene or Thomas. These are the players with adp in the 2nd round. Sure they may work out but its probably just as likely as they wont. Why not get guarenteed numbers and then gamble with your running backs from the 4rth-5th on? You will also have you pickens of running backs as mostly everyone else with your mindset is now struggling to fill out their WR slots.

He was mid 6th or 7th I think... definitely not post 8th.