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Walmart Makes it Official: Thanksgiving Is Dead (1 Viewer)

For the truly outraged there is always the option of staying home. No matter what Bill Simon or Brad Wilson say you don't have to go to Walmart on Black Friday Eve (nee "Thanksgiving"). It is possible to ignore the rush and spend some quality time watching the Dallas Cowboys with your crazy in-laws. The death of Thanksgiving is the birth of choice. With stores open and offices closed Americans are officially free to do whatever they want on the fourth Thursday of every November. :o
 
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I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. If people want to shop on those days, go right ahead.
Just wait until your boss decides you need to work on Thanksgiving. Business is not a series of individual strings but a net that entangles all involved.

 
Isn't it time to make up another major retail holiday in June or July?

 
What doesn't make sense to me is this: when you look at the sales figures from last year of opening on Thanksgiving vs the previous years of waiting until 4-6 am Black Friday, the added sales is so minor that it doesn't seem to be worth paying your associates double-time to be there. All it seemed to do was spread the sales out a bit to allow customers to shop other stores during the two days.

 
I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. If people want to shop on those days, go right ahead.
Just wait until your boss decides you need to work on Thanksgiving. Business is not a series of individual strings but a net that entangles all involved.
I think you're getting way ahead of yourself here. He could also ask to me to work on weekends, but for some unknown reason, he doesn't.

 
Just like how everyone used to be off for Veterans Day when I was a kid that just isn't the case any more. It started with retail. It spread to everywhere else but banks. Even a lot of schools aren't off for it any more. Seems like Thanksgiving is next.

 
The economy is struggling and we know that one day of the year is going to be huge. Turning it into 2 days of consumers purchasing goods and putting money into the economy? I'm all for it.

 
Just like how everyone used to be off for Veterans Day when I was a kid that just isn't the case any more. It started with retail. It spread to everywhere else but banks. Even a lot of schools aren't off for it any more. Seems like Thanksgiving is next.
:goodposting:

Lincoln & Washington's birthdays were two separate paid holidays too.

 
Just like how everyone used to be off for Veterans Day when I was a kid that just isn't the case any more. It started with retail. It spread to everywhere else but banks. Even a lot of schools aren't off for it any more. Seems like Thanksgiving is next.
They swapped veterans day for martin luther king day. And when I was programming for a financial company, the day after Thanksgiving was always off as well.

 
The economy is struggling and we know that one day of the year is going to be huge. Turning it into 2 days of consumers purchasing goods and putting money into the economy? I'm all for it.
There is no proof that people will actually spend more in fact they will probably spend less on Friday now because they will have already spent it on Thursday. Christmas spending doesn't increase because the days you can spend do.

 
What doesn't make sense to me is this: when you look at the sales figures from last year of opening on Thanksgiving vs the previous years of waiting until 4-6 am Black Friday, the added sales is so minor that it doesn't seem to be worth paying your associates double-time to be there. All it seemed to do was spread the sales out a bit to allow customers to shop other stores during the two days.
I think that you are missing the big picture. My understanding is that business is not a series of individual strings but a net that entangles all involved.

 
Just like how everyone used to be off for Veterans Day when I was a kid that just isn't the case any more. It started with retail. It spread to everywhere else but banks. Even a lot of schools aren't off for it any more. Seems like Thanksgiving is next.
Who's going to shop at the sales if everyone is at work?

 
The economy is struggling and we know that one day of the year is going to be huge. Turning it into 2 days of consumers purchasing goods and putting money into the economy? I'm all for it.
There is no proof that people will actually spend more in fact they will probably spend less on Friday now because they will have already spent it on Thursday. Christmas spending doesn't increase because the days you can spend do.
True, but there are 6 fewer days between Thanksgiving and Christmas this year.

 
The economy is struggling and we know that one day of the year is going to be huge. Turning it into 2 days of consumers purchasing goods and putting money into the economy? I'm all for it.
There is no proof that people will actually spend more in fact they will probably spend less on Friday now because they will have already spent it on Thursday. Christmas spending doesn't increase because the days you can spend do.
This is exactly the case. It used to be that there would be doorbusters in the past (around 6 am) and it was a madhouse... last year at the same time, it was like a normal Tuesday afternoon at Best Buy. Nothing but associates to be seen.

 
The economy is struggling and we know that one day of the year is going to be huge. Turning it into 2 days of consumers purchasing goods and putting money into the economy? I'm all for it.
There is no proof that people will actually spend more in fact they will probably spend less on Friday now because they will have already spent it on Thursday. Christmas spending doesn't increase because the days you can spend do.
True, but there are 6 fewer days between Thanksgiving and Christmas this year.
Exactly. They've been saying this is one of the reasons they were thinking about opening on Thursday. And if it doesn't work, they won't open next year.

 
What doesn't make sense to me is this: when you look at the sales figures from last year of opening on Thanksgiving vs the previous years of waiting until 4-6 am Black Friday, the added sales is so minor that it doesn't seem to be worth paying your associates double-time to be there. All it seemed to do was spread the sales out a bit to allow customers to shop other stores during the two days.
I think that you are missing the big picture. My understanding is that business is not a series of individual strings but a net that entangles all involved.
So you're saying that there are giant spiders involved? Because if that's what you're saying, I'm scared ####less.

 
Just like how everyone used to be off for Veterans Day when I was a kid that just isn't the case any more. It started with retail. It spread to everywhere else but banks. Even a lot of schools aren't off for it any more. Seems like Thanksgiving is next.
They swapped veterans day for martin luther king day. And when I was programming for a financial company, the day after Thanksgiving was always off as well.
Pretty sure a lot of states don't really give days off for MLK. I don't get it. Federal government may be closed but pretty much no one else is again other than banks.

 
The economy is struggling and we know that one day of the year is going to be huge. Turning it into 2 days of consumers purchasing goods and putting money into the economy? I'm all for it.
There is no proof that people will actually spend more in fact they will probably spend less on Friday now because they will have already spent it on Thursday. Christmas spending doesn't increase because the days you can spend do.
If it doesn't work, why would stores do it then?

 
I think they're doing this because Black Friday was causing more of a black eye for retailers than it was worth.

People getting trampled rushing the store. Fighting in line. I think retailers are saying "no thanks", let's have the herd shepherded through the doors in a more orderly fashion.

 
The economy is struggling and we know that one day of the year is going to be huge. Turning it into 2 days of consumers purchasing goods and putting money into the economy? I'm all for it.
There is no proof that people will actually spend more in fact they will probably spend less on Friday now because they will have already spent it on Thursday. Christmas spending doesn't increase because the days you can spend do.
True, but there are 6 fewer days between Thanksgiving and Christmas this year.
Not sure that matters. People will shop and spend what they are going to spend. There isn't more or less disposable income to spend based on number of shopping days. If you are open Thursday you are simply cannibalizing Friday sales. And if you are open both days you are likely simply cannibalizing later buys not adding any real new sales overall.

 
You people know I didn't write that article right? How about you make it Black Wednesday and you can shop then. I can't believe how willing everybody is to give up two paid days off of work. Or is it somebody elses problem, for now, since you don't work retail?

 
The economy is struggling and we know that one day of the year is going to be huge. Turning it into 2 days of consumers purchasing goods and putting money into the economy? I'm all for it.
There is no proof that people will actually spend more in fact they will probably spend less on Friday now because they will have already spent it on Thursday. Christmas spending doesn't increase because the days you can spend do.
If it doesn't work, why would stores do it then?
Because they aren't always right and herd mentality? Once store A is open store B feels like it has to be open. Then store C says well I have to be open. It isn't about expected increased sales it's about countering what someone else was doing.

 
The economy is struggling and we know that one day of the year is going to be huge. Turning it into 2 days of consumers purchasing goods and putting money into the economy? I'm all for it.
There is no proof that people will actually spend more in fact they will probably spend less on Friday now because they will have already spent it on Thursday. Christmas spending doesn't increase because the days you can spend do.
True, but there are 6 fewer days between Thanksgiving and Christmas this year.
Not sure that matters. People will shop and spend what they are going to spend. There isn't more or less disposable income to spend based on number of shopping days. If you are open Thursday you are simply cannibalizing Friday sales. And if you are open both days you are likely simply cannibalizing later buys not adding any real new sales overall.
The rest of you people need to read NCCommish's posts.

 
You people know I didn't write that article right? How about you make it Black Wednesday and you can shop then. I can't believe how willing everybody is to give up two paid days off of work. Or is it somebody elses problem, for now, since you don't work retail?
Please don't use "you people" and "black" in the same post.

 
Just like how everyone used to be off for Veterans Day when I was a kid that just isn't the case any more. It started with retail. It spread to everywhere else but banks. Even a lot of schools aren't off for it any more. Seems like Thanksgiving is next.
They swapped veterans day for martin luther king day. And when I was programming for a financial company, the day after Thanksgiving was always off as well.
Pretty sure a lot of states don't really give days off for MLK. I don't get it. Federal government may be closed but pretty much no one else is again other than banks.
Funny how the center of capitalism, the financial sector, has all these days off.

 
You people know I didn't write that article right? How about you make it Black Wednesday and you can shop then. I can't believe how willing everybody is to give up two paid days off of work. Or is it somebody elses problem, for now, since you don't work retail?
What about the people who have been working the Thanksgiving buffet at Holiday Inn? What about them?

 
What doesn't make sense to me is this: when you look at the sales figures from last year of opening on Thanksgiving vs the previous years of waiting until 4-6 am Black Friday, the added sales is so minor that it doesn't seem to be worth paying your associates double-time to be there. All it seemed to do was spread the sales out a bit to allow customers to shop other stores during the two days.
I think that you are missing the big picture. My understanding is that business is not a series of individual strings but a net that entangles all involved.
So you're saying that there are giant spiders involved? Because if that's what you're saying, I'm scared ####less.
And unfortunately it seems that Luke only memorized spells to defend against serpents and scorpions. Does Wal-Mart have a flamethrower section? Webs and spiders gunna burn!Schlzm

 
The economy is struggling and we know that one day of the year is going to be huge. Turning it into 2 days of consumers purchasing goods and putting money into the economy? I'm all for it.
There is no proof that people will actually spend more in fact they will probably spend less on Friday now because they will have already spent it on Thursday. Christmas spending doesn't increase because the days you can spend do.
If it doesn't work, why would stores do it then?
Because they aren't always right and herd mentality? Once store A is open store B feels like it has to be open. Then store C says well I have to be open. It isn't about expected increased sales it's about countering what someone else was doing.
Then open Wednesday night. Beat them all. And save Thanksgiving. Why aren't they doing that?

 
Just like how everyone used to be off for Veterans Day when I was a kid that just isn't the case any more. It started with retail. It spread to everywhere else but banks. Even a lot of schools aren't off for it any more. Seems like Thanksgiving is next.
They swapped veterans day for martin luther king day. And when I was programming for a financial company, the day after Thanksgiving was always off as well.
Pretty sure a lot of states don't really give days off for MLK. I don't get it. Federal government may be closed but pretty much no one else is again other than banks.
Banks are now even open on the traditional "bank" holidays. But the Fed is still closed.

 
Well I try to do my part. I refuse to so much as visit the grocery store on those two days. It would take an actual emergency to get me to go buy something. But I am just one guy doesn't count for much.

 

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