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Walt Coleman. An Extraordinary Ref. (1 Viewer)

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Please post here when Walt Coleman ruins a game you're watching.

He and his crew have made what could have been a fun game to watch, insufferable.  Gruden and McDonough couldn't take any more in the 3rd quarter.  Sean, who is pretty level-headed and unbiased, burst out on a rant about what a joke it was.  Coleman and co. average 18 penalties a game, 2nd most in the league.

A quick Google search shows he is also famous for being responsible for one of the worst "rules" out there -- the tuck rule.  Congrats Walt.

The other thing that I always notice with this guy is that he takes forever to actually announce the call.  Their ref meetings are more like board meetings.  I wonder how long his average game time is compared to his counterparts.  Anybody know?

As I type, they just announced Cinci has been penalized more tonight than any team the entire year.  And two of the worst calls both came on tonight's best/longest plays -- long TDs for each team.  Replay showed both to be ridiculous calls.  How is there not more accountability with these guys?  They should bench Walt.  Like for good.

 
Maybe he’s purposely put in prime time calling penalties to keep the score close so the ratings are better so they can maximize the amount of money spent on 30 second tv advertisements, which is by far the NFLs largest source of income (TV deals).

I mean, they operate as an entertainment business and not a sports business, the same as the WWE, which everyone loves to call fake. 

 
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Refs, and those who put them in place, ruined games a long time ago.  Silly rules did the rest. 

 
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Good call out, as I thought it was interesting how Gruden and McDonough were calling this crew out. Thought Gruden was spot on with his comment that fans don't come to see the officiating (kind of akin to an old hockey saying when refs get too tricky/long in set-up and dropping the puck or get ticky-tacky with ousting guys at the faceoff circle -- no one pays to come to a game to see the ref drop the puck).

Part of the problem with the product is constant and never-ending reviews, especially on the kinds of calls that used to be reliably put in the hands of refs' better judgment -- spotting the ball, the hand play that goes on between a WR and CB, etc. All for making calls for obvious and even some of the not-so-obvious calls where the refs think it affected the play. It's when those plays that look fine to the eye -- in both slow motion and at game speed -- are constantly stopped for review that it gets out of hand.

And there was indeed a lot of that last night -- specifically O and D PI. So totally concur with what Gruden was saying.

One caveat is that the refs may have seen the tone of the game turn nasty and started to throw yellow laundry at things that they may have let fly in other games/situations. And I guess I am OK with that too.

 
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Stompin' Tom Connors said:
Good call out, as I thought it was interesting how Gruden and McDonough were calling this crew out. Thought Gruden was spot on with his comment that fans don't come to see the officiating (kind of akin to an old hockey saying when refs get too tricky/long in set-up and dropping the puck or get ticky-tacky with ousting guys at the faceoff circle -- no one pays to come to a game to see the ref drop the puck).

Part of the problem with the product is constant and never-ending reviews, especially on the kinds of calls that used to be reliably put in the hands of refs' better judgment -- spotting the ball, the hand play that goes on between a WR and CB, etc. All for making calls for obvious and even some of the not-so-obvious calls where the refs think it affected the play. It's when those plays that look fine to the eye -- in both slow motion and at game speed -- are constantly stopped for review that it gets out of hand.

And there was indeed a lot of that last night -- specifically O and D PI. So totally concur with what Gruden was saying.

One caveat is that the refs may have seen the tone of the game turn nasty and started to throw yellow laundry at things that they may have let fly in other games/situations. And I guess I am OK with that too.
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There's just so many ticky tack penalties. I would love for them to make a more concerted effort to let the infractions go unless it: A) Significantly impacted the play, or; B) Posed a considerable safety risk to another player.

It would be wonderful if no more TDs were called back due to questionable holding on the backside of a play.

 
Tommy Collins said:
There's just so many ticky tack penalties. I would love for them to make a more concerted effort to let the infractions go unless it: A) Significantly impacted the play, or; B) Posed a considerable safety risk to another player.

It would be wonderful if no more TDs were called back due to questionable holding on the backside of a play.
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Agree, but I'm also cognizant that replay technology allows a fairer game to be called. It's a fine line and one I am not sure how to resolve except kind of along the lines as you suggest -- let them play unless there is a questionable occurrence on a scoring play or one that created safety risk.

 
Stompin' Tom Connors said:
Agree, but I'm also cognizant that replay technology allows a fairer game to be called. It's a fine line and one I am not sure how to resolve except kind of along the lines as you suggest -- let them play unless there is a questionable occurrence on a scoring play or one that created safety risk.
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Participation Trophies are fair.  Sports, and the interpretation and application of the rules that govern them, are anything but.  I'd settle for consistency, both within a game and across the league.  Fair is for snowflakes.   ;)

As you say, though, it's a fine line and I don't wish to quibble.

 
wormburner said:
Participation Trophies are fair.  Sports, and the interpretation and application of the rules that govern them, are anything but.  I'd settle for consistency, both within a game and across the league.  Fair is for snowflakes.   ;)

As you say, though, it's a fine line and I don't wish to quibble.
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We're in alignment, and totally agree about consistency. Though I don't think either of us really think participation trophies are fair. 

 
Stompin' Tom Connors said:
Agree, but I'm also cognizant that replay technology allows a fairer game to be called. It's a fine line and one I am not sure how to resolve except kind of along the lines as you suggest -- let them play unless there is a questionable occurrence on a scoring play or one that created safety risk.
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The eye in the sky needs to be faster, more concise. And they don't need to have these constant side-bars, like they are at Starbucks, it's ridiculous and time-consuming.  There isn't some revelation the old man on the field is going to bring to light, that can't be clearly seen on the replay, in a matter of seconds.  Once they know what took place, call down immediately and get the game moving again. The ball hit the ground, millions of people just saw it on replay, hello, it's incomplete.  I don't need to see a 100 year old ref walk slowly to the sidelines and put a headphone on, decipher it all and confirm what we all knew in a matter of seconds, and then meander back to the field to first tell his cohorts what's going, and then announce the final decision like it's the Academy Awards.

 
I don’t know if I can ever watch a game this horse $#!+ officiating crew calls again. This could be a great game but this is just ridiculous these calls!! How can there be a flag pretty much every play. Don’t get me wrong not saying all bad calls, but Jesus H let the guys play and let the game be decided by the teams playing and not you old officials that think you need to be the main focus of the game. And for the record not a Steelers fan or Ravens fan and nothing to do with fantasy as I have a bye, just want to watch a good game which it has been but don’t need these officials deciding the game. Just been ridiculous!!

 
To add, I’ve never paid much attention to who’s officiating games but saw this post Monday and totally agreed with it but didn’t comment but now seeing the same results tonight I had to reply. 

 
Walking Boot said:
I would clone him 16 times and have all his copies officiate every NFL game if it meant that Jeff Triplette would be out of a job. 
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I feel like I've heard that name since the 80's. I have some memory of Jerry Glanville losing it on Triplette. But that's probably some other guy.

 
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