wannabee Strategy Thread (4 Viewers)

[Packers4ever]

Just to give you some idea of our scoring system here are my players and their OAL rank by points. There are 23 QB's in the top 30 does this make QB's more or less valuable. The only other players in the top 30 are RB's LT, LJ, SJ, Gore, Westbrook, FWP, Drew-Jones. Starting lineup 1-QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, 1 Fex(RB,WR,TE)10teamsPlayer OAL rankHasselbeck, Matt 27 Leinart, Matt 30Brown, Chris Brown, Ronnie 73 Jordan, Lamont Lewis, Jamal 48Taylor, Chester 47Westbrook, Brian 23Boldin, Anquan 83Jackson, Vincent Moss, Randy Moss, Santana 136Heap, Todd 137Brown, Josh 101Vinatieri, Adam 108Bears, Chicago 46I am thinking of keeping Leinart, Brown, Westbrook, Taylor, Boldin, S. Moss, & R.Moss was thinking of keeping Hasselbeck instead of R. Moss until he got traded today to NE.Or do I keep someone like Lewis or Jordan instead of Leinart since there will be so many QB's in the draft that finished in the top 30 OAL ranking. I have the #7 spot in the 1st round and I have the 2.01 & 2.04 in the second round.I have been trying yo trade either Jordan or Lewis for a 2nd or third round pick.Who do you think I should keep and why.

No way would I keep Chester over those two, but I would look to trade him to the Peterson owner because of Peterson's injury history.Would you keep C. Taylor over J. Lewis or S. Moss now that the Vikings have AD?What do you think Taylor will do this year?

I traded Chester for a 3.01 and just received an offer for S. Moss and T. Heap for his 1.05 and accepted it right away. I think this was a no brainer since I was dropping both of them anyways.Now my keepers will be Hasselbeck, Leinart, R. Brown, Westy, J. Lewis, Boldin, & R. Moss.Draft picks 1.05, 1.07, 2.01, 2.04, 3.01, 3.07, 4.04, 4.10, 5.07, 6.04What do you think about this trade one of my QB's and the 1.05 pick for Chad Johnson? I have contact the owner with Johnson to see if he is willing to trade him. He does not have a top QB but does have a few good WR's. Is this a fair trade?

 

[wannabee]

Just to give you some idea of our scoring system here are my players and their OAL rank by points. There are 23 QB's in the top 30 does this make QB's more or less valuable. The only other players in the top 30 are RB's LT, LJ, SJ, Gore, Westbrook, FWP, Drew-Jones. Starting lineup 1-QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, 1 Fex(RB,WR,TE)10teamsPlayer OAL rankHasselbeck, Matt 27 Leinart, Matt 30Brown, Chris Brown, Ronnie 73 Jordan, Lamont Lewis, Jamal 48Taylor, Chester 47Westbrook, Brian 23Boldin, Anquan 83Jackson, Vincent Moss, Randy Moss, Santana 136Heap, Todd 137Brown, Josh 101Vinatieri, Adam 108Bears, Chicago 46I am thinking of keeping Leinart, Brown, Westbrook, Taylor, Boldin, S. Moss, & R.Moss was thinking of keeping Hasselbeck instead of R. Moss until he got traded today to NE.Or do I keep someone like Lewis or Jordan instead of Leinart since there will be so many QB's in the draft that finished in the top 30 OAL ranking. I have the #7 spot in the 1st round and I have the 2.01 & 2.04 in the second round.I have been trying yo trade either Jordan or Lewis for a 2nd or third round pick.Who do you think I should keep and why.

No way would I keep Chester over those two, but I would look to trade him to the Peterson owner because of Peterson's injury history.Would you keep C. Taylor over J. Lewis or S. Moss now that the Vikings have AD?What do you think Taylor will do this year?

I traded Chester for a 3.01 and just received an offer for S. Moss and T. Heap for his 1.05 and accepted it right away. I think this was a no brainer since I was dropping both of them anyways.Now my keepers will be Hasselbeck, Leinart, R. Brown, Westy, J. Lewis, Boldin, & R. Moss.Draft picks 1.05, 1.07, 2.01, 2.04, 3.01, 3.07, 4.04, 4.10, 5.07, 6.04What do you think about this trade one of my QB's and the 1.05 pick for Chad Johnson? I have contact the owner with Johnson to see if he is willing to trade him. He does not have a top QB but does have a few good WR's. Is this a fair trade?

I think it is a fair trade and I would definitely do it if I was you. In a keeper league, I think the most important thing is to upgrade the keepers. Also, upgrading the picks is important, too. I just think many times people choose quantity over quality, even in keeper leagues. Just try to get as many studs as possible and work the draft and waiver wire to fill in the gaps.

 

[Packers4ever]

Just to give you some idea of our scoring system here are my players and their OAL rank by points. There are 23 QB's in the top 30 does this make QB's more or less valuable. The only other players in the top 30 are RB's LT, LJ, SJ, Gore, Westbrook, FWP, Drew-Jones. Starting lineup 1-QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, 1 Fex(RB,WR,TE)10teamsPlayer OAL rankHasselbeck, Matt 27 Leinart, Matt 30Brown, Chris Brown, Ronnie 73 Jordan, Lamont Lewis, Jamal 48Taylor, Chester 47Westbrook, Brian 23Boldin, Anquan 83Jackson, Vincent Moss, Randy Moss, Santana 136Heap, Todd 137Brown, Josh 101Vinatieri, Adam 108Bears, Chicago 46I am thinking of keeping Leinart, Brown, Westbrook, Taylor, Boldin, S. Moss, & R.Moss was thinking of keeping Hasselbeck instead of R. Moss until he got traded today to NE.Or do I keep someone like Lewis or Jordan instead of Leinart since there will be so many QB's in the draft that finished in the top 30 OAL ranking. I have the #7 spot in the 1st round and I have the 2.01 & 2.04 in the second round.I have been trying yo trade either Jordan or Lewis for a 2nd or third round pick.Who do you think I should keep and why.

No way would I keep Chester over those two, but I would look to trade him to the Peterson owner because of Peterson's injury history.Would you keep C. Taylor over J. Lewis or S. Moss now that the Vikings have AD?What do you think Taylor will do this year?

I traded Chester for a 3.01 and just received an offer for S. Moss and T. Heap for his 1.05 and accepted it right away. I think this was a no brainer since I was dropping both of them anyways.Now my keepers will be Hasselbeck, Leinart, R. Brown, Westy, J. Lewis, Boldin, & R. Moss.Draft picks 1.05, 1.07, 2.01, 2.04, 3.01, 3.07, 4.04, 4.10, 5.07, 6.04What do you think about this trade one of my QB's and the 1.05 pick for Chad Johnson? I have contact the owner with Johnson to see if he is willing to trade him. He does not have a top QB but does have a few good WR's. Is this a fair trade?

I think it is a fair trade and I would definitely do it if I was you. In a keeper league, I think the most important thing is to upgrade the keepers. Also, upgrading the picks is important, too. I just think many times people choose quantity over quality, even in keeper leagues. Just try to get as many studs as possible and work the draft and waiver wire to fill in the gaps.

He turn down that trade, said he does not need a QB, so what do you think about S. Moss, 1.07 & 2.01 for Chad Johnson. If he accepted this trade I would have to release one of my QB's but looking at it that might not be a bad thing since they both have the same bye week.

 

[wannabee]

Just to give you some idea of our scoring system here are my players and their OAL rank by points. There are 23 QB's in the top 30 does this make QB's more or less valuable. The only other players in the top 30 are RB's LT, LJ, SJ, Gore, Westbrook, FWP, Drew-Jones. Starting lineup 1-QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, 1 Fex(RB,WR,TE)10teamsPlayer OAL rankHasselbeck, Matt 27 Leinart, Matt 30Brown, Chris Brown, Ronnie 73 Jordan, Lamont Lewis, Jamal 48Taylor, Chester 47Westbrook, Brian 23Boldin, Anquan 83Jackson, Vincent Moss, Randy Moss, Santana 136Heap, Todd 137Brown, Josh 101Vinatieri, Adam 108Bears, Chicago 46I am thinking of keeping Leinart, Brown, Westbrook, Taylor, Boldin, S. Moss, & R.Moss was thinking of keeping Hasselbeck instead of R. Moss until he got traded today to NE.Or do I keep someone like Lewis or Jordan instead of Leinart since there will be so many QB's in the draft that finished in the top 30 OAL ranking. I have the #7 spot in the 1st round and I have the 2.01 & 2.04 in the second round.I have been trying yo trade either Jordan or Lewis for a 2nd or third round pick.Who do you think I should keep and why.

No way would I keep Chester over those two, but I would look to trade him to the Peterson owner because of Peterson's injury history.Would you keep C. Taylor over J. Lewis or S. Moss now that the Vikings have AD?What do you think Taylor will do this year?

I traded Chester for a 3.01 and just received an offer for S. Moss and T. Heap for his 1.05 and accepted it right away. I think this was a no brainer since I was dropping both of them anyways.Now my keepers will be Hasselbeck, Leinart, R. Brown, Westy, J. Lewis, Boldin, & R. Moss.Draft picks 1.05, 1.07, 2.01, 2.04, 3.01, 3.07, 4.04, 4.10, 5.07, 6.04What do you think about this trade one of my QB's and the 1.05 pick for Chad Johnson? I have contact the owner with Johnson to see if he is willing to trade him. He does not have a top QB but does have a few good WR's. Is this a fair trade?

I think it is a fair trade and I would definitely do it if I was you. In a keeper league, I think the most important thing is to upgrade the keepers. Also, upgrading the picks is important, too. I just think many times people choose quantity over quality, even in keeper leagues. Just try to get as many studs as possible and work the draft and waiver wire to fill in the gaps.

He turn down that trade, said he does not need a QB, so what do you think about S. Moss, 1.07 & 2.01 for Chad Johnson. If he accepted this trade I would have to release one of my QB's but looking at it that might not be a bad thing since they both have the same bye week.

I like that deal for you. You also might look at trying to trade whichever QB you are going to drop. He has to be a keeper for one team. You can probably upgrade a pic or two in the process.

 

[Packers4ever]

Just to give you some idea of our scoring system here are my players and their OAL rank by points. There are 23 QB's in the top 30 does this make QB's more or less valuable. The only other players in the top 30 are RB's LT, LJ, SJ, Gore, Westbrook, FWP, Drew-Jones. Starting lineup 1-QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, 1 Fex(RB,WR,TE)10teamsPlayer OAL rankHasselbeck, Matt 27 Leinart, Matt 30Brown, Chris Brown, Ronnie 73 Jordan, Lamont Lewis, Jamal 48Taylor, Chester 47Westbrook, Brian 23Boldin, Anquan 83Jackson, Vincent Moss, Randy Moss, Santana 136Heap, Todd 137Brown, Josh 101Vinatieri, Adam 108Bears, Chicago 46I am thinking of keeping Leinart, Brown, Westbrook, Taylor, Boldin, S. Moss, & R.Moss was thinking of keeping Hasselbeck instead of R. Moss until he got traded today to NE.Or do I keep someone like Lewis or Jordan instead of Leinart since there will be so many QB's in the draft that finished in the top 30 OAL ranking. I have the #7 spot in the 1st round and I have the 2.01 & 2.04 in the second round.I have been trying yo trade either Jordan or Lewis for a 2nd or third round pick.Who do you think I should keep and why.

No way would I keep Chester over those two, but I would look to trade him to the Peterson owner because of Peterson's injury history.Would you keep C. Taylor over J. Lewis or S. Moss now that the Vikings have AD?What do you think Taylor will do this year?

I traded Chester for a 3.01 and just received an offer for S. Moss and T. Heap for his 1.05 and accepted it right away. I think this was a no brainer since I was dropping both of them anyways.Now my keepers will be Hasselbeck, Leinart, R. Brown, Westy, J. Lewis, Boldin, & R. Moss.Draft picks 1.05, 1.07, 2.01, 2.04, 3.01, 3.07, 4.04, 4.10, 5.07, 6.04What do you think about this trade one of my QB's and the 1.05 pick for Chad Johnson? I have contact the owner with Johnson to see if he is willing to trade him. He does not have a top QB but does have a few good WR's. Is this a fair trade?

I think it is a fair trade and I would definitely do it if I was you. In a keeper league, I think the most important thing is to upgrade the keepers. Also, upgrading the picks is important, too. I just think many times people choose quantity over quality, even in keeper leagues. Just try to get as many studs as possible and work the draft and waiver wire to fill in the gaps.

He turn down that trade, said he does not need a QB, so what do you think about S. Moss, 1.07 & 2.01 for Chad Johnson. If he accepted this trade I would have to release one of my QB's but looking at it that might not be a bad thing since they both have the same bye week.

I like that deal for you. You also might look at trying to trade whichever QB you are going to drop. He has to be a keeper for one team. You can probably upgrade a pic or two in the process.

The only problem with trying to trade one of the QB's is his team is the only team that is weak at QB and he said he is not interested in a QB. If you were the other team would you do that trade with Johnson. I have not offered it to him yet because he likes Johnson alot and I don't know it that will be good enough for him to accept it.

 

[wannabee]

Just to give you some idea of our scoring system here are my players and their OAL rank by points. There are 23 QB's in the top 30 does this make QB's more or less valuable. The only other players in the top 30 are RB's LT, LJ, SJ, Gore, Westbrook, FWP, Drew-Jones. Starting lineup 1-QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, 1 Fex(RB,WR,TE)10teamsPlayer OAL rankHasselbeck, Matt 27 Leinart, Matt 30Brown, Chris Brown, Ronnie 73 Jordan, Lamont Lewis, Jamal 48Taylor, Chester 47Westbrook, Brian 23Boldin, Anquan 83Jackson, Vincent Moss, Randy Moss, Santana 136Heap, Todd 137Brown, Josh 101Vinatieri, Adam 108Bears, Chicago 46I am thinking of keeping Leinart, Brown, Westbrook, Taylor, Boldin, S. Moss, & R.Moss was thinking of keeping Hasselbeck instead of R. Moss until he got traded today to NE.Or do I keep someone like Lewis or Jordan instead of Leinart since there will be so many QB's in the draft that finished in the top 30 OAL ranking. I have the #7 spot in the 1st round and I have the 2.01 & 2.04 in the second round.I have been trying yo trade either Jordan or Lewis for a 2nd or third round pick.Who do you think I should keep and why.

No way would I keep Chester over those two, but I would look to trade him to the Peterson owner because of Peterson's injury history.Would you keep C. Taylor over J. Lewis or S. Moss now that the Vikings have AD?What do you think Taylor will do this year?

I traded Chester for a 3.01 and just received an offer for S. Moss and T. Heap for his 1.05 and accepted it right away. I think this was a no brainer since I was dropping both of them anyways.Now my keepers will be Hasselbeck, Leinart, R. Brown, Westy, J. Lewis, Boldin, & R. Moss.Draft picks 1.05, 1.07, 2.01, 2.04, 3.01, 3.07, 4.04, 4.10, 5.07, 6.04What do you think about this trade one of my QB's and the 1.05 pick for Chad Johnson? I have contact the owner with Johnson to see if he is willing to trade him. He does not have a top QB but does have a few good WR's. Is this a fair trade?

I think it is a fair trade and I would definitely do it if I was you. In a keeper league, I think the most important thing is to upgrade the keepers. Also, upgrading the picks is important, too. I just think many times people choose quantity over quality, even in keeper leagues. Just try to get as many studs as possible and work the draft and waiver wire to fill in the gaps.

He turn down that trade, said he does not need a QB, so what do you think about S. Moss, 1.07 & 2.01 for Chad Johnson. If he accepted this trade I would have to release one of my QB's but looking at it that might not be a bad thing since they both have the same bye week.

I like that deal for you. You also might look at trying to trade whichever QB you are going to drop. He has to be a keeper for one team. You can probably upgrade a pic or two in the process.

The only problem with trying to trade one of the QB's is his team is the only team that is weak at QB and he said he is not interested in a QB. If you were the other team would you do that trade with Johnson. I have not offered it to him yet because he likes Johnson alot and I don't know it that will be good enough for him to accept it.

Well if a QB has an overall rank of 30 and a WR like Boldin is at 83 (which means CJ is probably around 50), I would certainly consider it ... especially getting the picks, too. This means QBs are worth more than WRs in your league. I am in a league like that. It is a league where QBs get 6 point/pass TD and no PPR for any player. The top WR was 30 overall. I will be looking to move my WRs for RBs this offseason.

 

[wannabee]

I have two questions

1. I have to drop one more player. Who should I drop? I was thinking either Chris Brown, Drew Bennett, or Demetrius Williams. Drew Bennett and it is not close, imo

2. I have been offered a trade because I am hurting for a 2nd starting QB. The draft consists of 8 rounds. All the rookies and the rest of the free agent pool after all 12 teams trim their rosters down to 15 will be eligible. So the talent is pretty weak after the first few rounds. I have the 7th pick in each round.

I RECEIVE I GIVE UP

Tavaris Jackson Anquan Boldin

2007 23rd overall pick (round 2 pick11 43rd overall pick (round 4 pick2)

# Type of league: Dynasty

# Starting Roster: 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1FLEX(rb,wr,or te), 1K, 1DEF

# Scoring format: 6pts for all tds(pass, rush, rec), 1pt for 10 yard(rush, rec), 1pt for 20yds (passing), -3 (fumbles lost, interceptions) 1pt for all reception

# Number of teams in your league: 12

# Roster size: 23

My team

Marc Bulger

David Carr

Reggie Bush

Duece McAllister

Michael Turner

Kevin Jones

Jerious Norwood

Chris Brown

Chad Johnson

Andre Johnson

Lee Evans

Anquan Boldin

Vincent Jackson

Drew Bennett

Demetrius Williams

Ben Watson

I would not do that deal. I think Boldin is worth much more than TJax. I do not like TJax as much as many do because when I look up the Viking Pass numbers from 2006, I think no way can a QB fluorish. You have a great team other than QB2. QBs I would target are Delhomme (since you have Carr and he should be cheap) and Huard (who should be cheap as well). Both of these QBs should easily outproduce TJax for the short term.

Thanks for the quick reply... Who would you suggest I target in draft at the 7 spot and the 19th pick?

I am so thin at QB should i target (Quinn, Stanton, Beck?) or go more for value with (Meachum, Bowe, etc) in the first round? The second round is mostly likely a crap-shoot on who will be available.

I would look for Quinn. If he is gone, I would look for value at wr. In the 2nd round, you might consider looking at Trent Edwards, QB Bufflalo from Stanford. He is underrated now in drafts. I would look for either he or Kolb. If you get Kolb (Philly), I owuld consider picking up AJ Feeley in case McNabb is not ready for week 1. He is already talking about missing the first preseason game. And, most players are overly optimistic at this juncture anyway. If you can get Quinn, I would look how to trade for Frye on the cheap. I think he holds down the job for the first half or three-quarters of the season.

Lastly I was wondering what you thought about when to draft a dynasty kicker and defense. Kickers like Graham, Elam, Stover are still available and 2nd tier defenses like New England are available. I was thinking by the 3rd round I should start picking them up unless someone of value drops. But are these K or DEF valuable enough to warrant a a higher pick or should i wait until others start to draft them?

I might be the wrong person to ask because I am someone that waits until the end to draft a kicker or defense. But, here are my general thoughts, with rough tiers.Kicker:

Either be the first to get a Kicker and take Vinatieri or let 8-10 go off the board and see about the Graham (no Elam), Stover type kicker. Also consider, if available, Wilkins, Hanson, or even Mare in NO later on. The kickers are difficult to predict year to year so I usually wait.

Defense:

I think you wait and grab a defense like Oakland or Jacksonville. Both should be much better than last year. Jax is my sleeper defense this year.

It may be my style, but I try to stock up on players (even for depth) that I really like and then address Kicker and Defense much later since they are difficult to predict.

 

[Packers4ever]

I would trade V.Davis and (Clinton Portis or Willis Mcgahee) For both of his First round picks(#10 & #11) plus Bryant Johnson.This is a 14 team league. My TeamQB Donovan McNabb, PHI QB Jeff Garcia, PHI RB Steven Jackson, STL RB Willis McGahee, BUF RB Clinton Portis, WAS RB Wali Lundy®, HOU WR Javon Walker, DEN WR Drew Bennett, TEN WR Joey Galloway, TB WR Reggie Wayne, IND TE Kellen Winslow, CLE TE Vernon Davis®, SF PK David Akers, PHI Def Colts, Team Defense, IND Def Titans, Team Defense His TeamQB Matt Schaub, ATL QB Michael Vick, ATL RB Brandon Jacobs, NYG RB Correll Buckhalter, PHI RB DeAngelo Williams®, CAR RB Laurence Maroney®, NE WR Brandon Jones, TEN WR Bryant Johnson, ARI WR Devery Henderson, NO WR Chad Johnson, CIN WR Roy Williams, DET WR Anquan Boldin, ARI TE Chris Cooley, WAS PK Jay Feely, NYG Def Broncos, Team Defense I do not have a 1st round draft pick I traded it for Walker last year.Now the Winslow had knee surgery again I don't know if I should trade Davis or not.Is this a good trade for me I like getting the 2 1st rounders but don't think that is enough for either Portis or McGahee I don't think I will find players at those two spot to replace either RB that I would trade.

If I am reading this right, no way would I move a good RB and a good TE for two late first rounders. I just think you would be taking on way too much risk for the potential reward. I do not think I would take the 1.04 and 1.05 for one of the RBs much less those two late firsts.

Now I have counter with Davis for D. Henderson and his 2nd round pick(#15 OAL). Then he counters with replacing the 2nd pick with a third pick and said no way he would give up Henderson and the 2nd for Davis. I was thinking my counter was a fair deal for both of us. What do you think? I think I am just going to hold onto Davis until I can a fair trade for him.

I agree with you on Davis vs henderson, even though I think he could be a sleeper for next year. Let me put it this way, Bloom has Davis as TE4 ahead of all TEs except Gates, Gonzo and Heap.

Hey Wannabee,I just received another offer for Davis. His 1st round pick next year, D. Clark and Chad Jackson for Davis, my 2.13 pick in 07 and 2nd round pick in 08. I was thinking this was alot to give up for a pick that I don't know were it will be but he will probably be in the top 5 next year also( he has the 1.02 pick this year but will not give that up just like the other 2 teams in the top 3). The 2 second round picks will be kind of just a throw in since this years pick is so late (since this is a 14 team league) and next years pick will probably be between 2.10-2.14. His Roster:QB Brett Favre, GB QB David Carr, CAR QB Matt Leinart, ARI QB Kellen Clemens, NYJ RB Rudi Johnson, CIN RB Brian Westbrook, PHI RB Musa Smith, BAL RB Ricky Williams, MIA RB Jerious Norwood, ATL WR Deion Branch, SEA WR Reggie Brown, PHI WR Chad Jackson, NE TE Dallas Clark, IND TE Tony Scheffler, DEN PK Neil Rackers, ARI Def Panthers, Team Defense, CAR With Davis I know in the past you have said not for less then a top 3 pick but with next years draft class being better then this years this might be the way to go for me because then I will have 2 1st round picks next year with the possibility of one being in the top 5. With his team I don't think he will have that good of year. The team at 1.05 is interested in Davis but thinks that is too much to give up for him. And I don't seem to be able to trade Davis for a good 2nd trier WR. So do you think I should do this trade?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Wannabee is taking a much deserved breather due to personal reasons.

I know that he will be back at some point, but I do not know when.

I don't want to elaborate on the situation, but if anyone has ever had any discussion, talk, chat, or even advice from Wannabee, you know that he's one of the best on this board without question.

So, if he's ever helped you in the slightest or even if you just like his posts, keep him in mind while he does what he needs to do. I know I am.

Thanks for understanding.

 

[Gandalf]

Wannabee is taking a much deserved breather due to personal reasons.I know that he will be back at some point, but I do not know when.I don't want to elaborate on the situation, but if anyone has ever had any discussion, talk, chat, or even advice from Wannabee, you know that he's one of the best on this board without question.So, if he's ever helped you in the slightest or even if you just like his posts, keep him in mind while he does what he needs to do. I know I am.Thanks for understanding.

I have had many discussions with Wannabee. He's not only has an extensive knowledge of football, but also is one of the nicest people on the FBG forums. I hope everything is okay. Just wanted to pass that on.

 

[wannabee]

Wannabee is taking a much deserved breather due to personal reasons.I know that he will be back at some point, but I do not know when.I don't want to elaborate on the situation, but if anyone has ever had any discussion, talk, chat, or even advice from Wannabee, you know that he's one of the best on this board without question.So, if he's ever helped you in the slightest or even if you just like his posts, keep him in mind while he does what he needs to do. I know I am.Thanks for understanding.

Thank you, Jeff.

 

[wannabee]

Wannabee is taking a much deserved breather due to personal reasons.I know that he will be back at some point, but I do not know when.I don't want to elaborate on the situation, but if anyone has ever had any discussion, talk, chat, or even advice from Wannabee, you know that he's one of the best on this board without question.So, if he's ever helped you in the slightest or even if you just like his posts, keep him in mind while he does what he needs to do. I know I am.Thanks for understanding.

I have had many discussions with Wannabee. He's not only has an extensive knowledge of football, but also is one of the nicest people on the FBG forums. I hope everything is okay. Just wanted to pass that on.

Thank you, Gandalf. Last Friday, my mother passed away in a traffic accident. Tonight is my first night back at FBG. This has been a rough week and I appreciate thoughts and prayers for my father (from those so inclined).

 

[wannabee]

I would trade V.Davis and (Clinton Portis or Willis Mcgahee) For both of his First round picks(#10 & #11) plus Bryant Johnson.This is a 14 team league. My TeamQB Donovan McNabb, PHI QB Jeff Garcia, PHI RB Steven Jackson, STL RB Willis McGahee, BUF RB Clinton Portis, WAS RB Wali Lundy®, HOU WR Javon Walker, DEN WR Drew Bennett, TEN WR Joey Galloway, TB WR Reggie Wayne, IND TE Kellen Winslow, CLE TE Vernon Davis®, SF PK David Akers, PHI Def Colts, Team Defense, IND Def Titans, Team Defense His TeamQB Matt Schaub, ATL QB Michael Vick, ATL RB Brandon Jacobs, NYG RB Correll Buckhalter, PHI RB DeAngelo Williams®, CAR RB Laurence Maroney®, NE WR Brandon Jones, TEN WR Bryant Johnson, ARI WR Devery Henderson, NO WR Chad Johnson, CIN WR Roy Williams, DET WR Anquan Boldin, ARI TE Chris Cooley, WAS PK Jay Feely, NYG Def Broncos, Team Defense I do not have a 1st round draft pick I traded it for Walker last year.Now the Winslow had knee surgery again I don't know if I should trade Davis or not.Is this a good trade for me I like getting the 2 1st rounders but don't think that is enough for either Portis or McGahee I don't think I will find players at those two spot to replace either RB that I would trade.

If I am reading this right, no way would I move a good RB and a good TE for two late first rounders. I just think you would be taking on way too much risk for the potential reward. I do not think I would take the 1.04 and 1.05 for one of the RBs much less those two late firsts.

Now I have counter with Davis for D. Henderson and his 2nd round pick(#15 OAL). Then he counters with replacing the 2nd pick with a third pick and said no way he would give up Henderson and the 2nd for Davis. I was thinking my counter was a fair deal for both of us. What do you think? I think I am just going to hold onto Davis until I can a fair trade for him.

I agree with you on Davis vs henderson, even though I think he could be a sleeper for next year. Let me put it this way, Bloom has Davis as TE4 ahead of all TEs except Gates, Gonzo and Heap.

Hey Wannabee,I just received another offer for Davis. His 1st round pick next year, D. Clark and Chad Jackson for Davis, my 2.13 pick in 07 and 2nd round pick in 08. I was thinking this was alot to give up for a pick that I don't know were it will be but he will probably be in the top 5 next year also( he has the 1.02 pick this year but will not give that up just like the other 2 teams in the top 3). The 2 second round picks will be kind of just a throw in since this years pick is so late (since this is a 14 team league) and next years pick will probably be between 2.10-2.14. His Roster:QB Brett Favre, GB QB David Carr, CAR QB Matt Leinart, ARI QB Kellen Clemens, NYJ RB Rudi Johnson, CIN RB Brian Westbrook, PHI RB Musa Smith, BAL RB Ricky Williams, MIA RB Jerious Norwood, ATL WR Deion Branch, SEA WR Reggie Brown, PHI WR Chad Jackson, NE TE Dallas Clark, IND TE Tony Scheffler, DEN PK Neil Rackers, ARI Def Panthers, Team Defense, CAR With Davis I know in the past you have said not for less then a top 3 pick but with next years draft class being better then this years this might be the way to go for me because then I will have 2 1st round picks next year with the possibility of one being in the top 5. With his team I don't think he will have that good of year. The team at 1.05 is interested in Davis but thinks that is too much to give up for him. And I don't seem to be able to trade Davis for a good 2nd trier WR. So do you think I should do this trade?

I think the value of that deal is to keep Davis. The only reason not to keep him is if you really thought that the 2008 1sts would be a top 3 pick. The other owner probably has given up on Chad Jackson and Dallas Clark so he thinks he is getting a ton for the 2008 1st. I would probably decline and tell the other owner that Davis is worth more than that and see what he says.

 

[Gandalf]

Hey WB,

Glad to see you're back doing something that you're excellent at--giving winning advice.

I have a question regarding Ronnie Brown. Recently I moved many of the guys I couldn't keep for re-stocking draft picks. I now have 4 first rounders which is sweet considering I'm gunning for it all this year. Those picks will turn into solid vets or good backups to my RBs.

Anyway, back to my question about Brown. With McFadden and Stewart coming up I was thinking that maybe I should pull a 2 for 1 RB deal to improve my roster from Ronnie Brown to a RB in the top 5-10.

Ronnie Brown + one of the following: Michael Turner, Darren McFadden or Jonathan Stewart

for one of these guys in a NON-PPR league.

Larry Johnson

Reggie Bush

Frank Gore

Shaun Alexander

Rudi Johnson

Brian Westbrook

Joseph Addai

Adrian Peterson

My goal is to win it all this year without hurting my team too much for the future. Are any of these guys enough of an upgrade over Ronnie Brown to part with a future top 10 RB? The other important consideration is that we only keep 13 guys and I'm at my limit before Mcfadden and Stewart are likely drafted next year so I'll have to move someone by next August.

 

[wannabee]

Hey Gandalf,

It is good to be back. Thank you. I expect LJ, Gore, and possibly Alexander to outscore Brown by 5-6 points per game. I think your choices are, in order:

a. Brown for Alexander straight up. I think this is a square deal

b. Off Brown and Turner for LJ or Gore.

I think each of your young RBs has positives and negatives. I would keep McFadden for sure just because he is odds on favorite to be pick 1.01 next year bringing extra value. Stewart would be the guy I would want to give, if you can get away with it, only because he will have the least value next season. Stewart has a decent chance to be a star. But, Turner's value should go through the roof next offseason. He will be worth roughly the #2 RB drafted.

But, upgrading to one of these three RBs for a title run looks to be a great move. I might pursue the straight up move for Alexander first and work from there.

Hope this helps.

 

[Gandalf]

Very helpful. The owners passed on the Ronnie Brown deal because they also have their sights on this year.

I'm going to need to tweak my team aggressively in the next couple of weeks because I start a 3-month surgical rotation on July 2. You may not hear from me for a while this summer as I'll be living in the OR.

So with that in mind, I had another idea about upgrading my roster for this year.

Ronnie Brown and Carson Palmer for Tom Brady and Maurice Jones-Drew

I know it's risky but I like the thought of acquiring Maurice Jones-Drew and Tom Brady. I've followed MJD's career since college and thought he would make a great pro despite his height. Last year he proved that. And in our league, his explosiveness gets you a lot of bonus points. I know Ronnie Brown is fast, but he seems less explosive than MJD. Miami's offensive line is still a mess so I'm concerned about Brown this year. On the other hand, MJD has more competition this year with Greg Jones in the mix. Though long term Taylor will be gone.

The Palmer vs. Brady debate is tough. I think Brady actually has the edge for this year. He's got so many weapons and the Bengals seem to take a step back last year. But that could have been Palmer's injury.

Basically, I see this deal as MJD > Brown and Palmer = Brady for the next 3 years. So I was leaning towards throwing out the offer. The MJD, Brady side also exceeds the Palmer, Brown side by 20 points when using David Dodds projections for next year.

His team:

QB: Tom Brady, Chad Pennington

RB: MJD, Clinton Portis, Travis Henry, LaMont Jordan, Chris Brown, Dom Williams

WR: Javon Walker, Santana Moss, Donte Stallworth, Mike Furrey

TE: Heath Miller, Chris Cooley

What are your thoughts on all this? Thanks.

-G

 

[wannabee]

Very helpful. The owners passed on the Ronnie Brown deal because they also have their sights on this year.

I'm going to need to tweak my team aggressively in the next couple of weeks because I start a 3-month surgical rotation on July 2. You may not hear from me for a while this summer as I'll be living in the OR.

So with that in mind, I had another idea about upgrading my roster for this year.

Ronnie Brown and Carson Palmer for Tom Brady and Maurice Jones-Drew

I know it's risky but I like the thought of acquiring Maurice Jones-Drew and Tom Brady. I've followed MJD's career since college and thought he would make a great pro despite his height. Last year he proved that. And in our league, his explosiveness gets you a lot of bonus points. I know Ronnie Brown is fast, but he seems less explosive than MJD. Miami's offensive line is still a mess so I'm concerned about Brown this year. On the other hand, MJD has more competition this year with Greg Jones in the mix. Though long term Taylor will be gone.

The Palmer vs. Brady debate is tough. I think Brady actually has the edge for this year. He's got so many weapons and the Bengals seem to take a step back last year. But that could have been Palmer's injury.

Basically, I see this deal as MJD > Brown and Palmer = Brady for the next 3 years. So I was leaning towards throwing out the offer. The MJD, Brady side also exceeds the Palmer, Brown side by 20 points when using David Dodds projections for next year.

His team:

QB: Tom Brady, Chad Pennington

RB: MJD, Clinton Portis, Travis Henry, LaMont Jordan, Chris Brown, Dom Williams

WR: Javon Walker, Santana Moss, Donte Stallworth, Mike Furrey

TE: Heath Miller, Chris Cooley

What are your thoughts on all this? Thanks.

-G

I like the Drew side more and you are getting a younger RB. I can tell you that Drew is a RB with a lot of buzz recently and his value is going up.

 

[Gandalf]

I like the Drew side more and you are getting a younger RB. I can tell you that Drew is a RB with a lot of buzz recently and his value is going up.

Thanks. It's what I was leaning towards, but since both Palmer and Brown are ranked above in dynasty rankings, it seems like a deal that requires interpretation. Interestingly next year's projections favor MJD and Brady, which leads me to believe that there is more near term value in MJD and Brady. The other thing that I like about the deal is the consistency that I would gain from having both Maroney and Brady on the same team. And I have the Pats D so even in a defensive struggle I would score points. Well, except for week 10 when the Pats have a bye.

 

[wannabee]

I have to finish a couple of things first, but I am hoping to have some offseason "buy lows" posted next week.

 

[Packers4ever]

Hey Wannabee,

Would you draft Wayne & Harrison on the same team.

I have picks 3.14 & 4.01 in a 14 team league. Should I draft 2 WR's here already have Henry & McGahee.

WR's still avaliable Wayne, Harrison, Walker, Boldin or Williams.

Or Would you draft a QB here McNabb, Hasselbeck.

No PPR and standard scoring.

Starters 1 QB 1 RB 1WR 2 Flex 1 TE

 

[wannabee]

Hey Wannabee,Would you draft Wayne & Harrison on the same team.I have picks 3.14 & 4.01 in a 14 team league. Should I draft 2 WR's here already have Henry & McGahee.WR's still avaliable Wayne, Harrison, Walker, Boldin or Williams.Or Would you draft a QB here McNabb, Hasselbeck.No PPR and standard scoring.

If it is a redraft, I take the two Colts' WRs. If it is a dynasty draft, I would take Wayne at 3.14 and have a tough choise at 4.01. In a non-PPR league, I usually wait on WR2 because you can find a few later on that will produce close to these WRs (Other than Wayne). So, I might look at McNabb or RB, depending on who is available. With the ability to start three RBs and non-PPR, I would want strong RBs given a 14 team league.

 

[Packers4ever]

Hey Wannabee,Would you draft Wayne & Harrison on the same team.I have picks 3.14 & 4.01 in a 14 team league. Should I draft 2 WR's here already have Henry & McGahee.WR's still avaliable Wayne, Harrison, Walker, Boldin or Williams.Or Would you draft a QB here McNabb, Hasselbeck.No PPR and standard scoring.

If it is a redraft, I take the two Colts' WRs. If it is a dynasty draft, I would take Wayne at 3.14 and have a tough choise at 4.01. In a non-PPR league, I usually wait on WR2 because you can find a few later on that will produce close to these WRs (Other than Wayne). So, I might look at McNabb or RB, depending on who is available. With the ability to start three RBs and non-PPR, I would want strong RBs given a 14 team league.

Redraft, the only RB's left are AP, KJ, FT & JJ.I think I am going to take the 2 Colts WR and see what happens have never done this before but I might have to try it this year. Thanks for the advise.

 

[wannabee]

Hey Wannabee,Would you draft Wayne & Harrison on the same team.I have picks 3.14 & 4.01 in a 14 team league. Should I draft 2 WR's here already have Henry & McGahee.WR's still avaliable Wayne, Harrison, Walker, Boldin or Williams.Or Would you draft a QB here McNabb, Hasselbeck.No PPR and standard scoring.

If it is a redraft, I take the two Colts' WRs. If it is a dynasty draft, I would take Wayne at 3.14 and have a tough choise at 4.01. In a non-PPR league, I usually wait on WR2 because you can find a few later on that will produce close to these WRs (Other than Wayne). So, I might look at McNabb or RB, depending on who is available. With the ability to start three RBs and non-PPR, I would want strong RBs given a 14 team league.

Redraft, the only RB's left are AP, KJ, FT & JJ.I think I am going to take the 2 Colts WR and see what happens have never done this before but I might have to try it this year. Thanks for the advise.

I do like having the Colts' wrs. But, you might consider Peterson as well. Those are the three that stick out.

 

[wannabee]

I have to finish a couple of things first, but I am hoping to have some offseason "buy lows" posted next week.

For redraft leagues, I am working on identifying a few "VALUE" QBs. I have not finished, but, the list includes:Eli ManningJake DelhommeRex GrossmanDamon HuardBen RoethlisbergerMatt HasselbeckIN no particular order. I hope to have this done this week.

 

[Reagan]

We're considering changing our 10 team league from re-draft to keeper.

1. Would it be OK to make the change now leading into this year's draft or should we keep the re-draft this year and tell them that this keeper will start in '08 based on your '07 players?

2. If we did begin this year, what is the best format?

My thoughts:

- keep 2 players

- no 1-2 rd players from LY kept

- keeper costs you a round higher than picked LY (i.e. LY's 5th rounder costs you a 4th TY)

- not sure how to handle Free Agents (Colston will be a prime example)

Open to your feedback....thanks wannabee....

reagan

 

[Packers4ever]

Hey Wannabee,Would you draft Wayne & Harrison on the same team.I have picks 3.14 & 4.01 in a 14 team league. Should I draft 2 WR's here already have Henry & McGahee.WR's still avaliable Wayne, Harrison, Walker, Boldin or Williams.Or Would you draft a QB here McNabb, Hasselbeck.No PPR and standard scoring.

If it is a redraft, I take the two Colts' WRs. If it is a dynasty draft, I would take Wayne at 3.14 and have a tough choise at 4.01. In a non-PPR league, I usually wait on WR2 because you can find a few later on that will produce close to these WRs (Other than Wayne). So, I might look at McNabb or RB, depending on who is available. With the ability to start three RBs and non-PPR, I would want strong RBs given a 14 team league.

Redraft, the only RB's left are AP, KJ, FT & JJ.I think I am going to take the 2 Colts WR and see what happens have never done this before but I might have to try it this year. Thanks for the advise.

I do like having the Colts' wrs. But, you might consider Peterson as well. Those are the three that stick out.

I did take the 2 colts WR and now in the 7th round I will be taking Peterson. My Question to you is where would you take Chris Brown in a redaft draft, I am thinking about taking him in the 8th round.Some Players left Winslow, Galloway, Mark Clayton, Alex Smith.My current team Leinart, McGahee, Henry, Peterson Harrison, Wayne, S. Moss

 

[wannabee]

Hey Wannabee,Would you draft Wayne & Harrison on the same team.I have picks 3.14 & 4.01 in a 14 team league. Should I draft 2 WR's here already have Henry & McGahee.WR's still avaliable Wayne, Harrison, Walker, Boldin or Williams.Or Would you draft a QB here McNabb, Hasselbeck.No PPR and standard scoring.

If it is a redraft, I take the two Colts' WRs. If it is a dynasty draft, I would take Wayne at 3.14 and have a tough choise at 4.01. In a non-PPR league, I usually wait on WR2 because you can find a few later on that will produce close to these WRs (Other than Wayne). So, I might look at McNabb or RB, depending on who is available. With the ability to start three RBs and non-PPR, I would want strong RBs given a 14 team league.

Redraft, the only RB's left are AP, KJ, FT & JJ.I think I am going to take the 2 Colts WR and see what happens have never done this before but I might have to try it this year. Thanks for the advise.

I do like having the Colts' wrs. But, you might consider Peterson as well. Those are the three that stick out.

I did take the 2 colts WR and now in the 7th round I will be taking Peterson. My Question to you is where would you take Chris Brown in a redaft draft, I am thinking about taking him in the 8th round.Some Players left Winslow, Galloway, Mark Clayton, Alex Smith.My current team Leinart, McGahee, Henry, Peterson Harrison, Wayne, S. Moss

I think you should take RB or QB here. Since it is redraft, Brown could be decent. My expectations for him are about half of the Titans' carries and having a few good games. But, most games will be split enough that none of the RBs will be viable. What RBs and QBs are left?

 

[Packers4ever]

Hey Wannabee,Would you draft Wayne & Harrison on the same team.I have picks 3.14 & 4.01 in a 14 team league. Should I draft 2 WR's here already have Henry & McGahee.WR's still avaliable Wayne, Harrison, Walker, Boldin or Williams.Or Would you draft a QB here McNabb, Hasselbeck.No PPR and standard scoring.

If it is a redraft, I take the two Colts' WRs. If it is a dynasty draft, I would take Wayne at 3.14 and have a tough choise at 4.01. In a non-PPR league, I usually wait on WR2 because you can find a few later on that will produce close to these WRs (Other than Wayne). So, I might look at McNabb or RB, depending on who is available. With the ability to start three RBs and non-PPR, I would want strong RBs given a 14 team league.

Redraft, the only RB's left are AP, KJ, FT & JJ.I think I am going to take the 2 Colts WR and see what happens have never done this before but I might have to try it this year. Thanks for the advise.

I do like having the Colts' wrs. But, you might consider Peterson as well. Those are the three that stick out.

I did take the 2 colts WR and now in the 7th round I will be taking Peterson. My Question to you is where would you take Chris Brown in a redaft draft, I am thinking about taking him in the 8th round.Some Players left Winslow, Galloway, Mark Clayton, Alex Smith.My current team Leinart, McGahee, Henry, Peterson Harrison, Wayne, S. Moss

I think you should take RB or QB here. Since it is redraft, Brown could be decent. My expectations for him are about half of the Titans' carries and having a few good games. But, most games will be split enough that none of the RBs will be viable. What RBs and QBs are left?

RB's L. White, C. Brown, Betts, Morency, & M. Bell that is about it.QB's Alex Smith, Quinn, Leftwich, Garcia, T Jackson & Vick but he has the same bye week as Leinart. This is all the starting QB's left.

 

[wannabee]

Hey Wannabee,Would you draft Wayne & Harrison on the same team.I have picks 3.14 & 4.01 in a 14 team league. Should I draft 2 WR's here already have Henry & McGahee.WR's still avaliable Wayne, Harrison, Walker, Boldin or Williams.Or Would you draft a QB here McNabb, Hasselbeck.No PPR and standard scoring.

If it is a redraft, I take the two Colts' WRs. If it is a dynasty draft, I would take Wayne at 3.14 and have a tough choise at 4.01. In a non-PPR league, I usually wait on WR2 because you can find a few later on that will produce close to these WRs (Other than Wayne). So, I might look at McNabb or RB, depending on who is available. With the ability to start three RBs and non-PPR, I would want strong RBs given a 14 team league.

Redraft, the only RB's left are AP, KJ, FT & JJ.I think I am going to take the 2 Colts WR and see what happens have never done this before but I might have to try it this year. Thanks for the advise.

I do like having the Colts' wrs. But, you might consider Peterson as well. Those are the three that stick out.

I did take the 2 colts WR and now in the 7th round I will be taking Peterson. My Question to you is where would you take Chris Brown in a redaft draft, I am thinking about taking him in the 8th round.Some Players left Winslow, Galloway, Mark Clayton, Alex Smith.My current team Leinart, McGahee, Henry, Peterson Harrison, Wayne, S. Moss

I think you should take RB or QB here. Since it is redraft, Brown could be decent. My expectations for him are about half of the Titans' carries and having a few good games. But, most games will be split enough that none of the RBs will be viable. What RBs and QBs are left?

RB's L. White, C. Brown, Betts, Morency, & M. Bell that is about it.QB's Alex Smith, Quinn, Leftwich, Garcia, T Jackson & Vick but he has the same bye week as Leinart. This is all the starting QB's left.

So, Alex Smith is only player left of this group? If all of those QBs are available, I would go RB. I think it is a round early for Mike Bell, but I owuld like to get MBell and Chester, just as insurance. But, I do not think you can start CBrown over your current RBs. I tend to look at draft picks/bench players in the light of whether I can start them or not. I see Betts and Morency as startable.ok, to the point. If you have the roster space for 3 more RBs, I would take Betts. If you want to hold off on RB here knowing you will have to take MBell and Chester soon, I would lean toward Galloway (with the thought that you could then wait several rounds before another wr) or a QB (Smith and Garcia are the two I like best as backup QBs).

 

[wannabee]

We're considering changing our 10 team league from re-draft to keeper.1. Would it be OK to make the change now leading into this year's draft or should we keep the re-draft this year and tell them that this keeper will start in '08 based on your '07 players?2. If we did begin this year, what is the best format? My thoughts: - keep 2 players- no 1-2 rd players from LY kept- keeper costs you a round higher than picked LY (i.e. LY's 5th rounder costs you a 4th TY)- not sure how to handle Free Agents (Colston will be a prime example)Open to your feedback....thanks wannabee....reagan

Sorry I missed this .....If you start with the 2007 draft, you can gradually incorporate the keepers by adding one per year until you get it to the point you want. You can also start by going straight to two keepers. Should not be a huge deal. If you like the keeper strategy, but want to avoid a team getting a player like Gore in the 11th round and milking him for 10 years (extreme example), you can address it by either putting a 3 yr max on keepers or you can make the keepers cost two rounds per year (from the year before).On Free Agents, since you assume they are great players in order to be kept, have to have a round attached that is reasonable. I would pick a round between the 10th to 15th round for the free agents. It is cheap enough to encourage keepers, but it keeps you away from someone getting a Willie Parker for the last round pick. I doubt anyone would argue giving up a 12th rounder for Parker. But, I do like a limit on how long a player can be kept (regardless of any trades).

 

[wannabee]

I have been looking for value QBs in redraft leagues. All of the QBs below are being drafted as QB2 or QB3 for their fantasy teams. Many of these QBs could be, and should be, starters for fantasy teams. Many teams will regret passing over these QBs.

Ben Roethlisberger

Matt Hasselbeck

Eli Manning

These three QBs are all being drafted as QB2s (QB13-16 in ADP) coming off of Interception-prone years. All three will have changes in their offensive personnel or coaching. Pittsburgh will be getting a spread offense with 3-4 wr sets. They should throw more often than when Cowher was the coach. Hasselbeck loses DJax, but gets Alexander back healthy. The running game is the key to the offense. Eli is coming off a down sophomore season. He loses Tiki Barber to retirement and many think the offense will be hurting as a whole. In my opinion, the conserativism by Coughlin is what hurts the most. The Giants get Toomer back healthy and drafted Steve Smith because the WR depth was horrible.

I look for all three of these QBs to produce as QB1 for their fantasy owners this year. All three have experienced success in past that needs to be regained. In addition, drafting two of these three QBs later in drafts as QB and QB2 could pay off dividends.

Jake Delhomme Delhomme's best seasons have come when the Panthers had a good running game (Stephen Davis' two healthy years). I look for DeAngelo Williams to improve and help the run game, and Delhomme, to take a step forward. Delhomme is being drafted as a low end QB2 which is way too low for me. He still has Steve Smith. He has two pass catching Rbs. Delhomme should outproduce his ADP.

Rex Grossman

Even with a horrible last half of the season, Grossman finished as QB15 in production. This is hard to imagine considering in three of his last six games of the season, Grossman threw three interceptions and no TDs. In the first nine games of the year, Grossman had eight games with atleast 11.5 points which is pretty consistent. Even with the QB15 production, Grossman is being drafted as QB26 so far this year. Grossman is working hard to step up into the pocket instead of throwing off of his back foot ... where many of the problems occurred last year. Grossman is my sleeper QB this year. I cautiously predict a top 10-12 season. The Bears drafted a pass-catching Tight End. They get Mark Bradley healthy. In dynasty leagues, buy Grossman low soon.

Damon Huard

Huard had a TD/Int ration of 11/1 last year. He started 8 games and played well, both in NFL and fantasy terms. He had a QB rating of 98, which is very good for a conservative Chiefs' offense. In these 8 starts, Huard finished as QB29. He is presently being drafted as QB36 because of all the press Brodie Croyle is getting. Croyle has struggled with arm strength and durability throughout his collegiate and professional career. I look for Huard to start sooner than later and to become a very solid QB2 for redraft teams.

 

[supermark_28]

WB,I want to throw a hypothetical at you:

We keep 2 veterans (Peyton and SA)

1 '06 rookie (Addai) and

2 '07 rookies (CJ,B Jackson or Booker).

Going into '08 I would only be carrying over one of the '07 rookies.

I have been offered the '08 Rookie pick 1.01 for CJ.

(next years' rookie draft order is a "flip" of this years '07 veterans draft)

This is not a ppr league,we start 2 QB/2 RB/3 WR/TE/K and DEF

WR scoring: 1 pt per 10 yds receiving and 8 pts per TD.

I know there's a lot of uncertainty of McFadden coming out next year but

I would be getting 1.01 to go w/ 1.03 for the '08 rookie draft.

Would you do this trade? Would you sit tight? Would you try and grab

a rookie in return w/ that trade offer (ie: Beachem,Bowe,Hunt or Kolby Smith)?

Thanks in advance ... Mark

 

[wannabee]

WB,I want to throw a hypothetical at you:We keep 2 veterans (Peyton and SA)1 '06 rookie (Addai) and2 '07 rookies (CJ,B Jackson or Booker).Going into '08 I would only be carrying over one of the '07 rookies.I have been offered the '08 Rookie pick 1.01 for CJ.(next years' rookie draft order is a "flip" of this years '07 veterans draft)This is not a ppr league,we start 2 QB/2 RB/3 WR/TE/K and DEFWR scoring: 1 pt per 10 yds receiving and 8 pts per TD.I know there's a lot of uncertainty of McFadden coming out next year butI would be getting 1.01 to go w/ 1.03 for the '08 rookie draft.Would you do this trade? Would you sit tight? Would you try and graba rookie in return w/ that trade offer (ie: Beachem,Bowe,Hunt or Kolby Smith)?Thanks in advance ... Mark

I would defeinitely trade Calvin (BJax or Booker, too) for 2008 1.01. In a non-PPR, start 2 QB league, RB and QB are worth a ton more than WRs, so I love the deal for you. I like Meachem best of those, but you would have to give up 2008 2nd, imo, to pull off a trade that looked like: 2008 1.01 and Meachem for Calvin ... a 2008 2nd would need to be added to the deal. If you ge Hunt or KSmith back, prob no need to add another pick. The issue for me is whether you think BJax or Booker will be your keeper over the rook you would get in return. Then the question becomes would Meachem contribute to your team this year enough to warrant giving a 2008 pick. In most cases, without seeing your team, I would say no. So, in the end, I would say that you should only go after Meachem if you think he will be your keeper. If not, you might target Kolby Smith for free and be happy with the great pick for Calvin in a league that discounts WRs' value.Hope all of this makes sense. let me know if not.

 

[supermark_28]

WB,I want to throw a hypothetical at you:We keep 2 veterans (Peyton and SA)1 '06 rookie (Addai) and2 '07 rookies (CJ,B Jackson or Booker).Going into '08 I would only be carrying over one of the '07 rookies.I have been offered the '08 Rookie pick 1.01 for CJ.(next years' rookie draft order is a "flip" of this years '07 veterans draft)This is not a ppr league,we start 2 QB/2 RB/3 WR/TE/K and DEFWR scoring: 1 pt per 10 yds receiving and 8 pts per TD.I know there's a lot of uncertainty of McFadden coming out next year butI would be getting 1.01 to go w/ 1.03 for the '08 rookie draft.Would you do this trade? Would you sit tight? Would you try and graba rookie in return w/ that trade offer (ie: Beachem,Bowe,Hunt or Kolby Smith)?Thanks in advance ... Mark

I would defeinitely trade Calvin (BJax or Booker, too) for 2008 1.01. In a non-PPR, start 2 QB league, RB and QB are worth a ton more than WRs, so I love the deal for you. I like Meachem best of those, but you would have to give up 2008 2nd, imo, to pull off a trade that looked like: 2008 1.01 and Meachem for Calvin ... a 2008 2nd would need to be added to the deal. If you ge Hunt or KSmith back, prob no need to add another pick. The issue for me is whether you think BJax or Booker will be your keeper over the rook you would get in return. Then the question becomes would Meachem contribute to your team this year enough to warrant giving a 2008 pick. In most cases, without seeing your team, I would say no. So, in the end, I would say that you should only go after Meachem if you think he will be your keeper. If not, you might target Kolby Smith for free and be happy with the great pick for Calvin in a league that discounts WRs' value.Hope all of this makes sense. let me know if not.

WB,makes a lot of sense. I did fail to mention that it was not a PPR league but you nailed that one.The other owner is hot for CJ and I would most likely lean towards keeping Booker and BJackson at that point. Thanks for your time and insight. I think I just needed a little "push"... Mark

 

[Reagan]

We're considering changing our 10 team league from re-draft to keeper.1. Would it be OK to make the change now leading into this year's draft or should we keep the re-draft this year and tell them that this keeper will start in '08 based on your '07 players?2. If we did begin this year, what is the best format? My thoughts: - keep 2 players- no 1-2 rd players from LY kept- keeper costs you a round higher than picked LY (i.e. LY's 5th rounder costs you a 4th TY)- not sure how to handle Free Agents (Colston will be a prime example)Open to your feedback....thanks wannabee....reagan

Sorry I missed this .....If you start with the 2007 draft, you can gradually incorporate the keepers by adding one per year until you get it to the point you want. You can also start by going straight to two keepers. Should not be a huge deal. If you like the keeper strategy, but want to avoid a team getting a player like Gore in the 11th round and milking him for 10 years (extreme example), you can address it by either putting a 3 yr max on keepers or you can make the keepers cost two rounds per year (from the year before).On Free Agents, since you assume they are great players in order to be kept, have to have a round attached that is reasonable. I would pick a round between the 10th to 15th round for the free agents. It is cheap enough to encourage keepers, but it keeps you away from someone getting a Willie Parker for the last round pick. I doubt anyone would argue giving up a 12th rounder for Parker. But, I do like a limit on how long a player can be kept (regardless of any trades).

wb,Thanks for the comments, but I need to clarify some things. We have a 10 team league, with 15 rounds we draft. You mentioned free agents in the 10th to 15 round, but that seemed very low to me. I was thinking 5th round or something. I wouldn't imagine a guy keeping a FA u nless he was good. For example, a guy picked up Marques Colston last year and I wouldn't like it if he ONLY had to give up a 10 rounder or so for a guy that will probably be drafted in round 5 or so. Here's what I had at the end of the year:1) Tomlinson (can't be kept)2) Chad3) Fitz4) Gore (I'd strongly consider keeping him...costing me a 3rd rounder)5) Driver6) Tatum Bell7) Maroney (he'd be a great value as a 6th round keeper)Those below that were either traded, not worth keeping, etc. I ended up trading for Carson Palmer LY and he was a 3rd round pick LY.So, if we kept 2, I'd likely keep Gore and Maroney for a 3rd and a 6th. If only keeping 1 player, keeping Maroney as a 6th would be the best value.Your thoughts on the FA question and my best keeper strategy?reagan

 

[wannabee]

We're considering changing our 10 team league from re-draft to keeper.1. Would it be OK to make the change now leading into this year's draft or should we keep the re-draft this year and tell them that this keeper will start in '08 based on your '07 players?2. If we did begin this year, what is the best format? My thoughts: - keep 2 players- no 1-2 rd players from LY kept- keeper costs you a round higher than picked LY (i.e. LY's 5th rounder costs you a 4th TY)- not sure how to handle Free Agents (Colston will be a prime example)Open to your feedback....thanks wannabee....reagan

Sorry I missed this .....If you start with the 2007 draft, you can gradually incorporate the keepers by adding one per year until you get it to the point you want. You can also start by going straight to two keepers. Should not be a huge deal. If you like the keeper strategy, but want to avoid a team getting a player like Gore in the 11th round and milking him for 10 years (extreme example), you can address it by either putting a 3 yr max on keepers or you can make the keepers cost two rounds per year (from the year before).On Free Agents, since you assume they are great players in order to be kept, have to have a round attached that is reasonable. I would pick a round between the 10th to 15th round for the free agents. It is cheap enough to encourage keepers, but it keeps you away from someone getting a Willie Parker for the last round pick. I doubt anyone would argue giving up a 12th rounder for Parker. But, I do like a limit on how long a player can be kept (regardless of any trades).

wb,Thanks for the comments, but I need to clarify some things. We have a 10 team league, with 15 rounds we draft. You mentioned free agents in the 10th to 15 round, but that seemed very low to me. I was thinking 5th round or something. I wouldn't imagine a guy keeping a FA u nless he was good. For example, a guy picked up Marques Colston last year and I wouldn't like it if he ONLY had to give up a 10 rounder or so for a guy that will probably be drafted in round 5 or so. Here's what I had at the end of the year:1) Tomlinson (can't be kept)2) Chad3) Fitz4) Gore (I'd strongly consider keeping him...costing me a 3rd rounder)5) Driver6) Tatum Bell7) Maroney (he'd be a great value as a 6th round keeper)Those below that were either traded, not worth keeping, etc. I ended up trading for Carson Palmer LY and he was a 3rd round pick LY.So, if we kept 2, I'd likely keep Gore and Maroney for a 3rd and a 6th. If only keeping 1 player, keeping Maroney as a 6th would be the best value.Your thoughts on the FA question and my best keeper strategy?reagan

I still think the FA round should be worth keeping. I was thinking that keeping a FA for about the 100th player off of the board does not sound unreasonable. You only draft 150 players so you have to make it profitable for the guy that finds a sleeper. I do not think I would change the way I drafted much. I might draft a couple more RBs in the mid-late rounds for upside and work the waiver wire for WRs. I might allow 1-2 draft picks, depending on value, solely on taking risky, high upside players. I would think that the players you would like to keep each year would be RBs. In a two player keeper league, you will want to keep Rbs more than any other position.

 

[Block]

My team:

QB: Steve McNair, JP Losman, Matt Schaub, KellenClemens

RB: Clinton Portis, Rudi Johnson, Jerious Norwood, Vernand Morency

WR: Torry Holt, Lee Evans, Santana Moss, Terry Glenn, Brandon Marshall, Wes Welker, Kevin Walter

TE: Owen Daniels

K: Josh Scobee, Rob Bironas

DEF: Jets, Seattle

His team:

QB: Peyton Manning, Matt Hasselbeck

RB: Thomas Jones, Ladell Betts, Reuben Droughns, Kenny Irons, Lorenzo Booker, Correll Buckhalter

WR: Chad Johnson, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Reggie Williams, Demetrius Williams, Keary Colbert, Bryant Johnson

TE: Heath Miller, Ben Troupe

K: Olindo Mare

DEF: Vikings, Colts

We get 1 PPR, .5 point per rushing attempt, 1 point per 10 rushing/receiving yards, 6 point for rushing/receiving TD, 4 points per passing TD, 1 point per completion, -3 for turnovers, 1 point per 20 passing yards

We start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 flex, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF

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Been nagging myself with this situation for awhile. He has my two handcuffs in Betts and Irons, and is clearly in need of another starting caliber runner. I have two ideas:

option 1:

I get: T. Jones, L. Betts, M. Hasselbeck, 1st round pick

He gets: R. Johnson, S. McNair, R. Bironas (trash)

In essence, I would downgrade from Rudi to Thomas Jones and in exchange get Betts, upgrade from McNair to Hasselbeck, and get a first rounder (in 2009 though).

option 2:

I get: Betts, Irons

He gets: Morency, Bironas (trash)

In this option I get my two handcuffs and give up an enigmatic potential starting back.

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An addendum to any potantial trade is that I own this team's 2008 first rounder, so making him better for this coming season isn't really in my interests. I don't know how to value that though.

I'm not particularly high on either Betts or Irons. With Betts, I feel he is a good backup but will never be the main guy, given his age and the situation. With Irons, I look at him and don't see someone who can just step in for Rudi; they are different backs. Irons is so thin, and Rudi so thick. At the same time, I know Rudi and Portis both have mileage and I am uncomfortable without the handcuffs.

With Morency, I know that he hasn't done anything, but I am unsure about trading him for the two backups. We accumulate backups in the hope they will eventually start, right? So why trade away a guy with the opportunity to start this year for guys who MIGHT somewhere down the line, even if the starter is an unknown who could flame out? And again, with him, I am afraid to give this team a second starting back, since I have the first rounder.

All in all, a complicated situation. I need some advice.

 

[Block]

Another idea, since I think I want Irons a bit more than Betts, honestly:

I get: Irons, 1st rounder

I give: Morency

Thoughts?

 

[wannabee]

My team:QB: Steve McNair, JP Losman, Matt Schaub, KellenClemensRB: Clinton Portis, Rudi Johnson, Jerious Norwood, Vernand MorencyWR: Torry Holt, Lee Evans, Santana Moss, Terry Glenn, Brandon Marshall, Wes Welker, Kevin WalterTE: Owen DanielsK: Josh Scobee, Rob BironasDEF: Jets, SeattleHis team:QB: Peyton Manning, Matt HasselbeckRB: Thomas Jones, Ladell Betts, Reuben Droughns, Kenny Irons, Lorenzo Booker, Correll BuckhalterWR: Chad Johnson, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Reggie Williams, Demetrius Williams, Keary Colbert, Bryant JohnsonTE: Heath Miller, Ben TroupeK: Olindo MareDEF: Vikings, ColtsWe get 1 PPR, .5 point per rushing attempt, 1 point per 10 rushing/receiving yards, 6 point for rushing/receiving TD, 4 points per passing TD, 1 point per completion, -3 for turnovers, 1 point per 20 passing yardsWe start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 flex, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF------------------------------------------------------------------------Been nagging myself with this situation for awhile. He has my two handcuffs in Betts and Irons, and is clearly in need of another starting caliber runner. I have two ideasption 1:I get: T. Jones, L. Betts, M. Hasselbeck, 1st round pickHe gets: R. Johnson, S. McNair, R. Bironas (trash)In essence, I would downgrade from Rudi to Thomas Jones and in exchange get Betts, upgrade from McNair to Hasselbeck, and get a first rounder (in 2009 though).option 2:I get: Betts, IronsHe gets: Morency, Bironas (trash)In this option I get my two handcuffs and give up an enigmatic potential starting back.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------An addendum to any potantial trade is that I own this team's 2008 first rounder, so making him better for this coming season isn't really in my interests. I don't know how to value that though.I'm not particularly high on either Betts or Irons. With Betts, I feel he is a good backup but will never be the main guy, given his age and the situation. With Irons, I look at him and don't see someone who can just step in for Rudi; they are different backs. Irons is so thin, and Rudi so thick. At the same time, I know Rudi and Portis both have mileage and I am uncomfortable without the handcuffs.With Morency, I know that he hasn't done anything, but I am unsure about trading him for the two backups. We accumulate backups in the hope they will eventually start, right? So why trade away a guy with the opportunity to start this year for guys who MIGHT somewhere down the line, even if the starter is an unknown who could flame out? And again, with him, I am afraid to give this team a second starting back, since I have the first rounder.All in all, a complicated situation. I need some advice.

If I understand this league, the .5 rush attempt is very valuable. A RB like Rudi can score 25-30 points each week. I am not as high on Thomas Jones as others are. When I look at his past stops in AZ and TB, then Chicago, Chicago sticks out to me for the team's ability to run the ball and inflate the numbers.Admittedly, I am a huge Morency fan (in fact, a Ok State homer) and was the first to mention him in the Shark Pool, but I think you should trade Morecny for Irons and Betts. This way you are insured against any issues. The knock on Morency is that he gets nicked up a lot. Also, he is older than you would expect because he played pro baseball before college.good luck.

 

[Block]

If I understand this league, the .5 rush attempt is very valuable. A RB like Rudi can score 25-30 points each week. I am not as high on Thomas Jones as others are. When I look at his past stops in AZ and TB, then Chicago, Chicago sticks out to me for the team's ability to run the ball and inflate the numbers.Admittedly, I am a huge Morency fan (in fact, a Ok State homer) and was the first to mention him in the Shark Pool, but I think you should trade Morecny for Irons and Betts. This way you are insured against any issues. The knock on Morency is that he gets nicked up a lot. Also, he is older than you would expect because he played pro baseball before college.good luck.

What about the idea that I don't want to help him? Would I be better keeping Morency and risking not owning the handcuffs in an attempt to keep him from getting too good? Or do you think that between Droughns and Bets he could eek out a RB2 similar to Morency anyway?

 

[wannabee]

If I understand this league, the .5 rush attempt is very valuable. A RB like Rudi can score 25-30 points each week. I am not as high on Thomas Jones as others are. When I look at his past stops in AZ and TB, then Chicago, Chicago sticks out to me for the team's ability to run the ball and inflate the numbers.Admittedly, I am a huge Morency fan (in fact, a Ok State homer) and was the first to mention him in the Shark Pool, but I think you should trade Morecny for Irons and Betts. This way you are insured against any issues. The knock on Morency is that he gets nicked up a lot. Also, he is older than you would expect because he played pro baseball before college.good luck.

What about the idea that I don't want to help him? Would I be better keeping Morency and risking not owning the handcuffs in an attempt to keep him from getting too good? Or do you think that between Droughns and Bets he could eek out a RB2 similar to Morency anyway?

I think that this time each year we think all of our RBs are 10)% healthy and will stay that way all year. I am a believer in handcuffs only if the backup is a good player in a good running offense. betts and Irons fit both criteria. Personally, I try not to consider my opponents strengh unless a future draft pick is involved. At this time, I do not think any of us can predict Morency's success or health, Portis' health, or Jacobs' health or productivity. For this reason, with your RBs, I would do the move above.

 

[Block]

If I understand this league, the .5 rush attempt is very valuable. A RB like Rudi can score 25-30 points each week. I am not as high on Thomas Jones as others are. When I look at his past stops in AZ and TB, then Chicago, Chicago sticks out to me for the team's ability to run the ball and inflate the numbers.Admittedly, I am a huge Morency fan (in fact, a Ok State homer) and was the first to mention him in the Shark Pool, but I think you should trade Morecny for Irons and Betts. This way you are insured against any issues. The knock on Morency is that he gets nicked up a lot. Also, he is older than you would expect because he played pro baseball before college.good luck.

What about the idea that I don't want to help him? Would I be better keeping Morency and risking not owning the handcuffs in an attempt to keep him from getting too good? Or do you think that between Droughns and Bets he could eek out a RB2 similar to Morency anyway?

I think that this time each year we think all of our RBs are 10)% healthy and will stay that way all year. I am a believer in handcuffs only if the backup is a good player in a good running offense. betts and Irons fit both criteria. Personally, I try not to consider my opponents strengh unless a future draft pick is involved. At this time, I do not think any of us can predict Morency's success or health, Portis' health, or Jacobs' health or productivity. For this reason, with your RBs, I would do the move above.

I don't know if you caught that I already own this team's 2008 first rounder, but I'm guessing that it wouldn't change your opinion. I'm starting to lean this way also.

 

[wannabee]

If I understand this league, the .5 rush attempt is very valuable. A RB like Rudi can score 25-30 points each week. I am not as high on Thomas Jones as others are. When I look at his past stops in AZ and TB, then Chicago, Chicago sticks out to me for the team's ability to run the ball and inflate the numbers.Admittedly, I am a huge Morency fan (in fact, a Ok State homer) and was the first to mention him in the Shark Pool, but I think you should trade Morecny for Irons and Betts. This way you are insured against any issues. The knock on Morency is that he gets nicked up a lot. Also, he is older than you would expect because he played pro baseball before college.good luck.

What about the idea that I don't want to help him? Would I be better keeping Morency and risking not owning the handcuffs in an attempt to keep him from getting too good? Or do you think that between Droughns and Bets he could eek out a RB2 similar to Morency anyway?

I think that this time each year we think all of our RBs are 10)% healthy and will stay that way all year. I am a believer in handcuffs only if the backup is a good player in a good running offense. betts and Irons fit both criteria. Personally, I try not to consider my opponents strengh unless a future draft pick is involved. At this time, I do not think any of us can predict Morency's success or health, Portis' health, or Jacobs' health or productivity. For this reason, with your RBs, I would do the move above.

I don't know if you caught that I already own this team's 2008 first rounder, but I'm guessing that it wouldn't change your opinion. I'm starting to lean this way also.

I do not think you make him any better than if you stay put.

 

[supermark_28]

WB,I want to throw a hypothetical at you:We keep 2 veterans (Peyton and SA)1 '06 rookie (Addai) and2 '07 rookies (CJ,B Jackson or Booker).Going into '08 I would only be carrying over one of the '07 rookies.I have been offered the '08 Rookie pick 1.01 for CJ.(next years' rookie draft order is a "flip" of this years '07 veterans draft)This is not a ppr league,we start 2 QB/2 RB/3 WR/TE/K and DEFWR scoring: 1 pt per 10 yds receiving and 8 pts per TD.I know there's a lot of uncertainty of McFadden coming out next year butI would be getting 1.01 to go w/ 1.03 for the '08 rookie draft.Would you do this trade? Would you sit tight? Would you try and graba rookie in return w/ that trade offer (ie: Beachem,Bowe,Hunt or Kolby Smith)?Thanks in advance ... Mark

I would defeinitely trade Calvin (BJax or Booker, too) for 2008 1.01. In a non-PPR, start 2 QB league, RB and QB are worth a ton more than WRs, so I love the deal for you. I like Meachem best of those, but you would have to give up 2008 2nd, imo, to pull off a trade that looked like: 2008 1.01 and Meachem for Calvin ... a 2008 2nd would need to be added to the deal. If you ge Hunt or KSmith back, prob no need to add another pick. The issue for me is whether you think BJax or Booker will be your keeper over the rook you would get in return. Then the question becomes would Meachem contribute to your team this year enough to warrant giving a 2008 pick. In most cases, without seeing your team, I would say no. So, in the end, I would say that you should only go after Meachem if you think he will be your keeper. If not, you might target Kolby Smith for free and be happy with the great pick for Calvin in a league that discounts WRs' value.Hope all of this makes sense. let me know if not.

WB,makes a lot of sense. I did fail to mention that it was not a PPR league but you nailed that one.The other owner is hot for CJ and I would most likely lean towards keeping Booker and BJackson at that point. Thanks for your time and insight. I think I just needed a little "push"... Mark

WB,for what it's worth just wanted to let you know how this deal finally shook out.I got Dewayne Bowe and the '08 #1 overall rookie pick for Calvin Johnson.I think if Meachem were a 100%,as a Vols homer,I would've taken him but as ofright now,I'm leaning towards Bjax and Booker as rookie keepers. Thanks again,Mark

 

[wannabee]

WB,I want to throw a hypothetical at you:We keep 2 veterans (Peyton and SA)1 '06 rookie (Addai) and2 '07 rookies (CJ,B Jackson or Booker).Going into '08 I would only be carrying over one of the '07 rookies.I have been offered the '08 Rookie pick 1.01 for CJ.(next years' rookie draft order is a "flip" of this years '07 veterans draft)This is not a ppr league,we start 2 QB/2 RB/3 WR/TE/K and DEFWR scoring: 1 pt per 10 yds receiving and 8 pts per TD.I know there's a lot of uncertainty of McFadden coming out next year butI would be getting 1.01 to go w/ 1.03 for the '08 rookie draft.Would you do this trade? Would you sit tight? Would you try and graba rookie in return w/ that trade offer (ie: Beachem,Bowe,Hunt or Kolby Smith)?Thanks in advance ... Mark

I would defeinitely trade Calvin (BJax or Booker, too) for 2008 1.01. In a non-PPR, start 2 QB league, RB and QB are worth a ton more than WRs, so I love the deal for you. I like Meachem best of those, but you would have to give up 2008 2nd, imo, to pull off a trade that looked like: 2008 1.01 and Meachem for Calvin ... a 2008 2nd would need to be added to the deal. If you ge Hunt or KSmith back, prob no need to add another pick. The issue for me is whether you think BJax or Booker will be your keeper over the rook you would get in return. Then the question becomes would Meachem contribute to your team this year enough to warrant giving a 2008 pick. In most cases, without seeing your team, I would say no. So, in the end, I would say that you should only go after Meachem if you think he will be your keeper. If not, you might target Kolby Smith for free and be happy with the great pick for Calvin in a league that discounts WRs' value.Hope all of this makes sense. let me know if not.

WB,makes a lot of sense. I did fail to mention that it was not a PPR league but you nailed that one.The other owner is hot for CJ and I would most likely lean towards keeping Booker and BJackson at that point. Thanks for your time and insight. I think I just needed a little "push"... Mark

WB,for what it's worth just wanted to let you know how this deal finally shook out.I got Dewayne Bowe and the '08 #1 overall rookie pick for Calvin Johnson.I think if Meachem were a 100%,as a Vols homer,I would've taken him but as ofright now,I'm leaning towards Bjax and Booker as rookie keepers. Thanks again,Mark

That looks good. Calvin and Bowe should have pretty similar rookie seasons. I like the deal for you.

 

[Block]

If I understand this league, the .5 rush attempt is very valuable. A RB like Rudi can score 25-30 points each week. I am not as high on Thomas Jones as others are. When I look at his past stops in AZ and TB, then Chicago, Chicago sticks out to me for the team's ability to run the ball and inflate the numbers.Admittedly, I am a huge Morency fan (in fact, a Ok State homer) and was the first to mention him in the Shark Pool, but I think you should trade Morecny for Irons and Betts. This way you are insured against any issues. The knock on Morency is that he gets nicked up a lot. Also, he is older than you would expect because he played pro baseball before college.good luck.

What about the idea that I don't want to help him? Would I be better keeping Morency and risking not owning the handcuffs in an attempt to keep him from getting too good? Or do you think that between Droughns and Bets he could eek out a RB2 similar to Morency anyway?

I think that this time each year we think all of our RBs are 10)% healthy and will stay that way all year. I am a believer in handcuffs only if the backup is a good player in a good running offense. betts and Irons fit both criteria. Personally, I try not to consider my opponents strengh unless a future draft pick is involved. At this time, I do not think any of us can predict Morency's success or health, Portis' health, or Jacobs' health or productivity. For this reason, with your RBs, I would do the move above.

I don't know if you caught that I already own this team's 2008 first rounder, but I'm guessing that it wouldn't change your opinion. I'm starting to lean this way also.

I do not think you make him any better than if you stay put.

I'm thinking of offering him this trade, because I think he wouldn't do the Morency for the two handcuffs straight up. By complicating things and including something that helps me a bit but doesnt really hurt him (since he has manning), I think there's more of a chance of it being accepted. Here's what I'm thinking:I give: Vernand Morency, Steve McNair, Rob Bironas, two 2nd round rookie picksI get: Ladell Betts, Kenny Irons, Matt Hasselbeck

 

[wannabee]

If I understand this league, the .5 rush attempt is very valuable. A RB like Rudi can score 25-30 points each week. I am not as high on Thomas Jones as others are. When I look at his past stops in AZ and TB, then Chicago, Chicago sticks out to me for the team's ability to run the ball and inflate the numbers.Admittedly, I am a huge Morency fan (in fact, a Ok State homer) and was the first to mention him in the Shark Pool, but I think you should trade Morecny for Irons and Betts. This way you are insured against any issues. The knock on Morency is that he gets nicked up a lot. Also, he is older than you would expect because he played pro baseball before college.good luck.

What about the idea that I don't want to help him? Would I be better keeping Morency and risking not owning the handcuffs in an attempt to keep him from getting too good? Or do you think that between Droughns and Bets he could eek out a RB2 similar to Morency anyway?

I think that this time each year we think all of our RBs are 10)% healthy and will stay that way all year. I am a believer in handcuffs only if the backup is a good player in a good running offense. betts and Irons fit both criteria. Personally, I try not to consider my opponents strengh unless a future draft pick is involved. At this time, I do not think any of us can predict Morency's success or health, Portis' health, or Jacobs' health or productivity. For this reason, with your RBs, I would do the move above.

I don't know if you caught that I already own this team's 2008 first rounder, but I'm guessing that it wouldn't change your opinion. I'm starting to lean this way also.

I do not think you make him any better than if you stay put.

I'm thinking of offering him this trade, because I think he wouldn't do the Morency for the two handcuffs straight up. By complicating things and including something that helps me a bit but doesnt really hurt him (since he has manning), I think there's more of a chance of it being accepted. Here's what I'm thinking:I give: Vernand Morency, Steve McNair, Rob Bironas, two 2nd round rookie picksI get: Ladell Betts, Kenny Irons, Matt Hasselbeck

that would be a good deal for you. I expect hasselbeck to have a good year in 2007.

 

[Block]

My team:

QB: Steve McNair, JP Losman, Matt Schaub, KellenClemens

RB: Clinton Portis, Rudi Johnson, Jerious Norwood, Vernand Morency

WR: Torry Holt, Lee Evans, Santana Moss, Terry Glenn, Brandon Marshall, Wes Welker, Kevin Walter

TE: Owen Daniels

K: Josh Scobee, Rob Bironas

DEF: Jets, Seattle

His team:

QB: Peyton Manning, Matt Hasselbeck

RB: Thomas Jones, Ladell Betts, Reuben Droughns, Kenny Irons, Lorenzo Booker, Correll Buckhalter

WR: Chad Johnson, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Reggie Williams, Demetrius Williams, Keary Colbert, Bryant Johnson

TE: Heath Miller, Ben Troupe

K: Olindo Mare

DEF: Vikings, Colts

We get 1 PPR, .5 point per rushing attempt, 1 point per 10 rushing/receiving yards, 6 point for rushing/receiving TD, 4 points per passing TD, 1 point per completion, -3 for turnovers, 1 point per 20 passing yards

We start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 flex, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF

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Update on previous post:

He rejected my offer, and it looks like he values Betts much higher than I do, making it pretty impossible for me to acquire him at a palatable price.

Can you think of any sensible offers that would make sense for Irons and/or Hasselbeck but not Betts? I thought of this, but I'm not sure it is worth it:

I give: Morency, McNair

I get: Irons, Hasselbeck, 2009 first rounder

 

[wannabee]

My team:QB: Steve McNair, JP Losman, Matt Schaub, KellenClemensRB: Clinton Portis, Rudi Johnson, Jerious Norwood, Vernand MorencyWR: Torry Holt, Lee Evans, Santana Moss, Terry Glenn, Brandon Marshall, Wes Welker, Kevin WalterTE: Owen DanielsK: Josh Scobee, Rob BironasDEF: Jets, SeattleHis team:QB: Peyton Manning, Matt HasselbeckRB: Thomas Jones, Ladell Betts, Reuben Droughns, Kenny Irons, Lorenzo Booker, Correll BuckhalterWR: Chad Johnson, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Reggie Williams, Demetrius Williams, Keary Colbert, Bryant JohnsonTE: Heath Miller, Ben TroupeK: Olindo MareDEF: Vikings, ColtsWe get 1 PPR, .5 point per rushing attempt, 1 point per 10 rushing/receiving yards, 6 point for rushing/receiving TD, 4 points per passing TD, 1 point per completion, -3 for turnovers, 1 point per 20 passing yardsWe start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 flex, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF--------------------------------------------------------------------------Update on previous post:He rejected my offer, and it looks like he values Betts much higher than I do, making it pretty impossible for me to acquire him at a palatable price.Can you think of any sensible offers that would make sense for Irons and/or Hasselbeck but not Betts? I thought of this, but I'm not sure it is worth it:I give: Morency, McNairI get: Irons, Hasselbeck, 2009 first rounder

It looks like he is trying to hold you hostage on Betts. You might have to walk away for a while in trying to acquire him. I think I would just try to offer him a 2008 2nd for Irons. Irons was a 2nd rounder this year and will be sitting most of the year. I do like Irons and think he is a lot like Norwood in his play. I have found, the hard way over the years, that sometimes you have to pull away from the negotiations when the other guy is wanting too much. If you are worried about Portis, try trading him in a package for another top flight RB to a different team.

 

[wannabee]

I am thinking of posting my dynasty rankings (PPR) as a point of discussion this offseason. Any thoughts would be appreciated, except by those in my leagues wanting to take advantage ......