wannabee Strategy Thread (1 Viewer)

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Hi Jeff--Here is MY teamynasty w/standard scoring plus 1/2PPR, 1/4PPC, 3pt bonus for 40+ yard TD, 100+ yards rushing or receiving & 300+ yards passingStart: QB(2), RB(2), WR(3), TE(1), PK(1), DEF(1)QB: Brady, Brees, Schaub, Cassel, Stanton(IR)RB: LT, Maroney, S.Young, Dayne, Turner, M.Bell, BensonWR: Ch.Johnson, Ro.Williams, Henry, Cotchery, Re.Brown, Jacoby Jones, Johnnie Lee HigginsTE: Da.Clark, HeapK: Gostkowski, ReedD: Chargers2008 Draft Picks 1.06, 1.10, 3.06, 3.10 and 4.10Here is the OTHER owner's team:QB: Big Ben / Delhomme / T.Jackson / Edwards / ClemensRB: Addai / B.Jackson / Norwood / T.Bell / A.Hall / T.Henry / KJ / AP (chi)WR: Colston / Boldin / Jennings / Meachem / Ma.ClaytonTE: SchefflerPK: BironasDEF: TENHe is a NO fan and approached me about getting Brees. He offered Ben and his 2.05 for Brees. I said no thanks and countered with:Brees / Roy / 1.10forBen / Colston / 1.05He said he doesn't think Brees is THAT much better to make this trade. He said that he IS willing to part with Colston, but it would most likely cost me CJ.Simply subbing CJ for Roy, causes me to downgrade at both QB and WR, albeit very slightly, since Brees averaged 1.4 points more than Ben last year and CJ averaged just .6 points more than Colston, so that just a total of 2 points per week, per game. To get that much younger in a dynasty format, is that alone, plus the move from 1.10 to 1.05 enough to trade both Brees and CJ? Most in the AC forum think not. So I was thinking of offering:Brees / CJ / Reg.BrownforBen / Colston / Jennings / 1.05Then, if I decide to and/or if needed, I could add my 1.10 and/or remove the Brown/Jennings portion of the trade. What do you think?Thanks,TM

I think I would pass. I would not give up the best WR and best QB in the deal to move up to 1.05. The 1.05 pick is decent this year, but it is not worth the price. I do like Jennings, but still think you are on the losing end. Since you start two QBs, I would keep your two top passers unless you get a great deal.

Interesting. I thought the Brown for Jennings would put this over the top. Plus the 1.05 is most likely equivalent to most league's 1.04, since Ryan will most likely go at 1.03 (since this is a start 2 QB league). So I would get the last left of the big 4 RBs. How do you rank Ben versus Brees and Colston versus CJ? Brees averaged 1.4 points per game more than Ben, but Ben has only had 1 outstanding FF year, whereas Brees has had a handful. I'd probably rank Brees #4 and Ben #7, maybe #6. CJ versus Colston on the other hand, I have neck and neck. What is the fine line that says it's OK to trade a point or two of production for youth and/or draft positioning? I normally don't like trading away production, but to get virtually the same production out of Colston, versus CJ, and get substantially younger, tells me this part of the trade is a wash, at worst for me. So I look at the rest of the trade as Brees / Brown for Ben / Jennings / 1.05. Am I faulting in my analysis? My current starting lineup would be:Brady / Brees / LT / (Maroney/Benson/Turner) / CJ / Roy / CotcheryAnd with the trade, would be:Brady / Ben / LT / (Maroney/Benson/Turner/*FJones/*Mendenhall) / Colston / Roy Cotchery* - Would be drafted with the 1.05 pick

I do like Jennings and Felix Jones. I like both a lot. The one thing I was looking at is that Chad has been very consistent for six straight years. Brees, too, is very consistent. With Colson, he has battled injuries both years. I wonder if/when the Saints will bring in a legit WR2, which would help Brees. Jennings could be a future star. But, hard to tell what will happen when Favre retires. Much of Felix Jones' value will be determined on where he is drafted. This would help you get younger. I think it is very close. I am not a Reggie Brown fan and think his part in the deal is small change. Getting younger is a good thing. It just comes with risk. If you are wanting to get your team younger, then I would do the deal. If you are wanting to ride the LT train for a title run, I would hold off.

You don't feel like I can have the best of both worlds in make the trade and still make a run? I think I can, but agree with you that there is a bit of risk.

you could make it work out, there is no question. I was just looking at it as what is most likely. good luck.

 

[dmac37]

Jeff,

Still looking to make a deal, so far no luck. here is my latest. I already own AD and B. Jackson.

Give 1.7 and Benson or Rice for R. Grant and C. Taylor. The other owner does not have a first round pick, so he may value this pick a little more. This would give me the GB and Minn backfield, but I don't know if this is giving enough for Grant and Taylor?? Also not sure who has more value Benson or Rice.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Jeff,Still looking to make a deal, so far no luck. here is my latest. I already own AD and B. Jackson.Give 1.7 and Benson or Rice for R. Grant and C. Taylor. The other owner does not have a first round pick, so he may value this pick a little more. This would give me the GB and Minn backfield, but I don't know if this is giving enough for Grant and Taylor?? Also not sure who has more value Benson or Rice.

I would try to give Benson and the pick for Grant and Chester. In fact, I would probably give all three if I had to. The value of Benson will hinge entirely on the draft. If the Bears do not take a back high, Benson will be viewed by many as a decent fantasy RB2. I do like getting both of these backs for you. I am coming around to Grant and think he has a better chance longterm than many realize, or give him credit for.

 

[dmac37]

Jeff,

My team:

QB-Shaub, Leinart, Warner, Rodgers

RB- A. Peterson (Minn), K. Jones, Bensen, A. Bradshaw, B. Jackson, A. Hall, M. Moore

WR- A. Johnson, Cotchery, Berrian, S. Rice, L. Robinson, J. Gage, M. Walker

TE- Winslow, O. Daniels

PK- Bironas

Def-Colts

Other team is looking to deal FWP and looking for picks, RB, or WR. I have picks 1.7, 2.7, and 3.7 this year plus any future years picks.

What would be a fair opening offer. I would rather move picks than players, but looking to see what his value is.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Jeff,My team:QB-Shaub, Leinart, Warner, RodgersRB- A. Peterson (Minn), K. Jones, Bensen, A. Bradshaw, B. Jackson, A. Hall, M. MooreWR- A. Johnson, Cotchery, Berrian, S. Rice, L. Robinson, J. Gage, M. WalkerTE- Winslow, O. DanielsPK- BironasDef-ColtsOther team is looking to deal FWP and looking for picks, RB, or WR. I have picks 1.7, 2.7, and 3.7 this year plus any future years picks.What would be a fair opening offer. I would rather move picks than players, but looking to see what his value is.

I think I might start with Benson and the 1.07. To be honest, I would not trade any of your young WRs. They look to be a strength for a long time. This leves Benson or KJ to move. I would rather part with Benson than KJ just because you would be selling low on KJ with his injury.

 

[dmac37]

Jeff,My team:QB-Shaub, Leinart, Warner, RodgersRB- A. Peterson (Minn), K. Jones, Bensen, A. Bradshaw, B. Jackson, A. Hall, M. MooreWR- A. Johnson, Cotchery, Berrian, S. Rice, L. Robinson, J. Gage, M. WalkerTE- Winslow, O. DanielsPK- BironasDef-ColtsOther team is looking to deal FWP and looking for picks, RB, or WR. I have picks 1.7, 2.7, and 3.7 this year plus any future years picks.What would be a fair opening offer. I would rather move picks than players, but looking to see what his value is.

I think I might start with Benson and the 1.07. To be honest, I would not trade any of your young WRs. They look to be a strength for a long time. This leves Benson or KJ to move. I would rather part with Benson than KJ just because you would be selling low on KJ with his injury.

The FWP for 1.7 and Benson did not fly.A different team desperate for RB help:Brady, Tom NEP QB Cutler, Jay DEN QB Foster, De'shaun CAR RB Harrison, Jerome CLE RB Henry, Chris TEN RB Johnson, Rudi CIN RB Morris, Sammy NEP RB Sproles, Darren SDC RB Watson, Kenny CIN RB Wynn, DeShawn GBP RB Bennett, Drew STL WR Hagan, Derek MIA WR Jackson, Chad NEP WR Johnson, Chad CIN WR Smith, Steve NYG WR Wayne, Reggie IND WR Williams, Roy DET WR Cooley, Chris WAS TE Watson, Ben NEP TE Graham, Shayne CIN PK Chargers, San Diego SDC Def Steelers, Pittsburgh PIT Def Thinking of a deal like:LeinartWarnerBenson1.7forCutlerR. Williams1.101.7 pick may offer one of the last top 2nd tier RB's or #1 WR compared to what is left at 1.10. Also not sure of the value of Benson compared to Bradshaw. Benson is selling low right now, but still could be a RB#2, and Bradshaw is getting a lot of love after the playoff run, but should be in some form of RBBC. Who do value more of the two?What do you think of this offer or what would you offer?

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Jeff,My team:QB-Shaub, Leinart, Warner, RodgersRB- A. Peterson (Minn), K. Jones, Bensen, A. Bradshaw, B. Jackson, A. Hall, M. MooreWR- A. Johnson, Cotchery, Berrian, S. Rice, L. Robinson, J. Gage, M. WalkerTE- Winslow, O. DanielsPK- BironasDef-ColtsOther team is looking to deal FWP and looking for picks, RB, or WR. I have picks 1.7, 2.7, and 3.7 this year plus any future years picks.What would be a fair opening offer. I would rather move picks than players, but looking to see what his value is.

I think I might start with Benson and the 1.07. To be honest, I would not trade any of your young WRs. They look to be a strength for a long time. This leves Benson or KJ to move. I would rather part with Benson than KJ just because you would be selling low on KJ with his injury.

The FWP for 1.7 and Benson did not fly.A different team desperate for RB help:Brady, Tom NEP QB Cutler, Jay DEN QB Foster, De'shaun CAR RB Harrison, Jerome CLE RB Henry, Chris TEN RB Johnson, Rudi CIN RB Morris, Sammy NEP RB Sproles, Darren SDC RB Watson, Kenny CIN RB Wynn, DeShawn GBP RB Bennett, Drew STL WR Hagan, Derek MIA WR Jackson, Chad NEP WR Johnson, Chad CIN WR Smith, Steve NYG WR Wayne, Reggie IND WR Williams, Roy DET WR Cooley, Chris WAS TE Watson, Ben NEP TE Graham, Shayne CIN PK Chargers, San Diego SDC Def Steelers, Pittsburgh PIT Def Thinking of a deal like:LeinartWarnerBenson1.7forCutlerR. Williams1.101.7 pick may offer one of the last top 2nd tier RB's or #1 WR compared to what is left at 1.10. Also not sure of the value of Benson compared to Bradshaw. Benson is selling low right now, but still could be a RB#2, and Bradshaw is getting a lot of love after the playoff run, but should be in some form of RBBC. Who do value more of the two?What do you think of this offer or what would you offer?

I owuld like it a lot for you. I would much rather have Cutler and Roy than the AZ QBs and Benson. I do think the 1.07 is a good pick. It should be RB7, QB1, or WR1. You might have to give Schaub instead.On Bradshaw, I would hold him right now. The love for him is just now picking up steam. He was sold for a late first in one of my leagues this week.

 

[Gottabesweet]

I'm in a 12 team dynasty league, start 1qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1 flex (rb,te,wr) k, dst and we have a very very high roster amount (45-50)

6 per td, 1pt per catch, 1pt per 25 passing, 1pt per 10 rush/rec, -2 fumbles, picks, etc.

Offer:

I give: Deangelo Williams, Nate Washington and Derek Hagan, 1.12 and 2.12

I get: 1.3 and 2.2

(already own 1.2) (plan on taking Stewart or Mendenhall)

My roster:

Peyton Manning, Matt Leinart, Kurt Warner, Kevin Kolb, Carr, Sorgi, Volek

D Sproles

A Cason

L Tomlinson

M Lynch

C Sapp

T Hunt

F Jackson

W McGahee

G Harris

J Battle

K Darby

J Vincent

D Williams

D Ware

A Coleman

S Williams

C Davis

G Russell

L Evans

N Washington

R Moss

J Cotchery

P Price

A Johnson

J Avant

R Parrish

D Ball

D Hagan

Y Figurs

S Rice

G Martinez

D Darling

R Robinson

C Davis

L Robinson

B Smith

R Martin

S Aiken

I Stanback

H Baskett

TE - V. Davis, Kellen Winslow, Boss and other's nothing good depth wise.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I'm in a 12 team dynasty league, start 1qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1 flex (rb,te,wr) k, dst and we have a very very high roster amount (45-50) 6 per td, 1pt per catch, 1pt per 25 passing, 1pt per 10 rush/rec, -2 fumbles, picks, etc.Offer: I give: Deangelo Williams, Nate Washington and Derek Hagan, 1.12 and 2.12 I get: 1.3 and 2.2 (already own 1.2) (plan on taking Stewart or Mendenhall) My roster: Peyton Manning, Matt Leinart, Kurt Warner, Kevin Kolb, Carr, Sorgi, VolekD SprolesA CasonL TomlinsonM LynchC SappT HuntF JacksonW McGaheeG HarrisJ BattleK DarbyJ VincentD WilliamsD WareA ColemanS WilliamsC DavisG RussellL EvansN WashingtonR MossJ CotcheryP PriceA JohnsonJ AvantR ParrishD BallD HaganY FigursS RiceG MartinezD DarlingR RobinsonC DavisL RobinsonB SmithR MartinS AikenI StanbackH BaskettTE - V. Davis, Kellen Winslow, Boss and other's nothing good depth wise.

I like the deal, but I amnot a huge DeAngelo fan to begin with. I just do not see him as a special player. I like the chance to hit a home run with the 1.03.

 

[dmac37]

Jeff,

You mentioned you like Shaun Hill. Do you think he would get drafted in a 12team - 22 player roster, 1 QB start -3 round rookie/ free agent draft in May, if yes about where in the draft. I would think in May there will not be a starting QB determined yet in SF, wondering if he would be a good pickup to hold and see if Martz has him as the starter, rather than taking a long shot rookie in the 2nd or 3rd round.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Jeff,You mentioned you like Shaun Hill. Do you think he would get drafted in a 12team - 22 player roster, 1 QB start -3 round rookie/ free agent draft in May, if yes about where in the draft. I would think in May there will not be a starting QB determined yet in SF, wondering if he would be a good pickup to hold and see if Martz has him as the starter, rather than taking a long shot rookie in the 2nd or 3rd round.

He is on the border there. With the small rosters of a 22-player roster, Hill should be worth a late pick, even if just to hold and see what happens. I say that because there is upside in the Niner QB position. Martz has said it is an open competition for the job. I would probably prefer a 2nd rounder (if a top 20 pick) to Hill, but that is the limit. Hope that makes sense.

 

[Packers4ever]

14 team dynasty league

1 QB, RB, WR, TE, K, DEF & 3 Flex (RB, WR, TE)

standard scoring and no PPR

My team

QB's McNabb, Garcia, Croyle

RB's McGahee, S. Jackson, C. Portis

WR's R. Wayne, J. Walker, J. Galloway, D. Bowe, B. Stokley. K. Robinson

TE's K. Winslow, V. Davis

K J. Scobee

Def Tennessee

His team

QB Eli Manning, M Schaub,

RB R. Johnson, Michael Bush, Ryan Grant, Maurice Jones-Drew, Chris Henry, B. Jacobs, R. Brown,

WR Andre Davis, Darrell Jackson, L Evans, M. Jones, S. Moss, D. Henderson,

TE A.Gates

I have been offered B. Jacobs & C. Henry for McGahee and J. Walker.

Would you do this trade my first reaction to it was no way but I really do not know now. This is the 3rd trade that he has offered me with Walker in the deal and keeps telling me that walker is on his way out of Denver and he can be done.

 

[JPeso]

Here is one for you.

PPR: QB, 2RB, 3WR, Flex, TE

My Roster:

QB: Hass, Favre, Delhomme

RB: LT, Portis, FWP, SA, Betts, Jordan

WR: Housh, Burress, Coles, MaClayton, D-Jax

TE: Witten, Watson, LJ

His players worth mentioning are:

QB: Bulger

RB: MB3, Maroney, Grant, 1.2

WR: CJ, Holmes, J-Walk

The question, do I move LT for a package like MB3/CJ, or 1.2/CJ, or MB3/1.2. Obviously if I did the deal with CJ, I would end up moving Housh or CJ sometime afterward. Should I sit tight?

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

14 team dynasty league 1 QB, RB, WR, TE, K, DEF & 3 Flex (RB, WR, TE)standard scoring and no PPRMy teamQB's McNabb, Garcia, CroyleRB's McGahee, S. Jackson, C. PortisWR's R. Wayne, J. Walker, J. Galloway, D. Bowe, B. Stokley. K. RobinsonTE's K. Winslow, V. DavisK J. ScobeeDef TennesseeHis teamQB Eli Manning, M Schaub, RB R. Johnson, Michael Bush, Ryan Grant, Maurice Jones-Drew, Chris Henry, B. Jacobs, R. Brown, WR Andre Davis, Darrell Jackson, L Evans, M. Jones, S. Moss, D. Henderson, TE A.GatesI have been offered B. Jacobs & C. Henry for McGahee and J. Walker. Would you do this trade my first reaction to it was no way but I really do not know now. This is the 3rd trade that he has offered me with Walker in the deal and keeps telling me that walker is on his way out of Denver and he can be done.

sorry, was out of town this weekend. There is no way I would consider that deal. Willis is an undervalued rb right now. I would not trade Willis for those two so Walker is just gravy.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Here is one for you.PPR: QB, 2RB, 3WR, Flex, TEMy Roster:QB: Hass, Favre, DelhommeRB: LT, Portis, FWP, SA, Betts, JordanWR: Housh, Burress, Coles, MaClayton, D-JaxTE: Witten, Watson, LJHis players worth mentioning are:QB: BulgerRB: MB3, Maroney, Grant, 1.2WR: CJ, Holmes, J-WalkThe question, do I move LT for a package like MB3/CJ, or 1.2/CJ, or MB3/1.2. Obviously if I did the deal with CJ, I would end up moving Housh or CJ sometime afterward. Should I sit tight?

I would like the deal for you. Either deal is good for you. In PPR, MJD is a solid rb and Chad Johnson is a top WR. I would not be afraid to start both Bengal WRs if need be. On LT, I would prefer to sell one year early than one year late.

 

[AC05]

10 Team Dynasty, non PPR

Passing- 4/td, 1/20 yds

Rushing/Recieving- 6/td, 1/10 yds

Defense- 5/int, 2/tack, 1/asst, 4/sack

First, my roster:

QB(1)- McNabb, Roethlisberger, Leinart

RB(2)- FWP, Adrian Peterson, Bush, K. Jones, S. Young, Turner

WR(3)- S. Smith, Chad Johnson, TO, Roy Williams, Calvin Johnson, S. Moss

PK(1)- Vinatieri

DL(2)- J. Abraham, C. Grant, W. Smith

LB(2-3)- Pierce, Peterson, McIntosh, DiGiorgio, Harris

DB(2-3)- Sanders, Harper

And his:

QB- Cutler, Warner, Garcia

RB- Barber, White, MJD, Graham, S Jackson

WR- Branch, Curtis, Housh, Marshall, Wayne, Stallworth

DL- Cole, Dumerville, Peppers, Tuck

LB- Boley, Dansby, Howard, Demeco Ryans, Sims

DB- Bigby, Sean Jones, M Williams

He wants Roeth in exchange for any of his QBs plus one of Barber, Lendale, Boley, Howard, or any of his DBs.

I'm not crazy over Roeth or anything, but he is my best QB right now and McNabb is in an unstable situation. I do have a small problem at RB since FWP is going to be out this year, but if Turner lands somewhere good then I should be fine there.

FWIW, I have no draft picks in the first 3 rounds and he has late picks in the first 3 rounds.

I think Cutler and Barber would be a good deal, but I hate giving up on Ben when McNabb's situation is unknown right now.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

10 Team Dynasty, non PPRPassing- 4/td, 1/20 ydsRushing/Recieving- 6/td, 1/10 ydsDefense- 5/int, 2/tack, 1/asst, 4/sackFirst, my roster:QB(1)- McNabb, Roethlisberger, LeinartRB(2)- FWP, Adrian Peterson, Bush, K. Jones, S. Young, TurnerWR(3)- S. Smith, Chad Johnson, TO, Roy Williams, Calvin Johnson, S. MossPK(1)- VinatieriDL(2)- J. Abraham, C. Grant, W. SmithLB(2-3)- Pierce, Peterson, McIntosh, DiGiorgio, HarrisDB(2-3)- Sanders, HarperAnd his:QB- Cutler, Warner, GarciaRB- Barber, White, MJD, Graham, S JacksonWR- Branch, Curtis, Housh, Marshall, Wayne, StallworthDL- Cole, Dumerville, Peppers, TuckLB- Boley, Dansby, Howard, Demeco Ryans, SimsDB- Bigby, Sean Jones, M WilliamsHe wants Roeth in exchange for any of his QBs plus one of Barber, Lendale, Boley, Howard, or any of his DBs.I'm not crazy over Roeth or anything, but he is my best QB right now and McNabb is in an unstable situation. I do have a small problem at RB since FWP is going to be out this year, but if Turner lands somewhere good then I should be fine there. FWIW, I have no draft picks in the first 3 rounds and he has late picks in the first 3 rounds.I think Cutler and Barber would be a good deal, but I hate giving up on Ben when McNabb's situation is unknown right now.

I think Barber is worth more by himself than Ben. Getting Cutler and MB3 is a steal. You should be ecstatic.

 

[dmac37]

Jeff,

My team, 1ppr:

QB-Shaub, Leinart, Warner, Rodgers (start 1)

RB- A. Peterson (Minn), K. Jones, Bensen, A. Bradshaw, B. Jackson, A. Hall, M. Moore (start 2-3)

WR- A. Johnson, Cotchery, Berrian, S. Rice, L. Robinson, J. Gage, M. Walker (start 3-4)

TE- Winslow, O. Daniels (start 1-2)

PK- Bironas

Def-Colts

I like Berrian but I'm concerned having 3 Vikings on my roster. I'm thinking of offering Berrian and my 1.7 pick for T. Holt. I'm a little concerned about his knee but I would like to get a WR to produce at a high level WR#2 or low level WR#1 for a few years until some of my youth fully develops.

Is this offer too little, too much, or in the ball park. Any other WR's to target in a deal like this?

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Jeff,My team, 1ppr:QB-Shaub, Leinart, Warner, Rodgers (start 1)RB- A. Peterson (Minn), K. Jones, Bensen, A. Bradshaw, B. Jackson, A. Hall, M. Moore (start 2-3)WR- A. Johnson, Cotchery, Berrian, S. Rice, L. Robinson, J. Gage, M. Walker (start 3-4)TE- Winslow, O. Daniels (start 1-2)PK- BironasDef-ColtsI like Berrian but I'm concerned having 3 Vikings on my roster. I'm thinking of offering Berrian and my 1.7 pick for T. Holt. I'm a little concerned about his knee but I would like to get a WR to produce at a high level WR#2 or low level WR#1 for a few years until some of my youth fully develops.Is this offer too little, too much, or in the ball park. Any other WR's to target in a deal like this?

I am not a huge Berrian fan, but I think you are giving too much. Take this as just my personal rankings, but I have the 1.07 and Berrian as more than Holt. I have the 1.07 (Malcom Kelly) in the middle WR20s and Holt in the high teens. I think I would shoot for a younger receiver if you are giving the pick and Berrian. If you want an older, more established wr, I might look at Plax. If going for a younger wr, I would look at Steve Smith (who disappointed), Bowe (if you love him), or Boldin.I also might try to move Berrian straight up for Driver (may be too on the old side), Roddy White, Chambers, or even Anthony Gonzalez.You have a good team. Jeff

 

[dmac37]

Jeff,My team, 1ppr:QB-Shaub, Leinart, Warner, Rodgers (start 1)RB- A. Peterson (Minn), K. Jones, Bensen, A. Bradshaw, B. Jackson, A. Hall, M. Moore (start 2-3)WR- A. Johnson, Cotchery, Berrian, S. Rice, L. Robinson, J. Gage, M. Walker (start 3-4)TE- Winslow, O. Daniels (start 1-2)PK- BironasDef-ColtsI like Berrian but I'm concerned having 3 Vikings on my roster. I'm thinking of offering Berrian and my 1.7 pick for T. Holt. I'm a little concerned about his knee but I would like to get a WR to produce at a high level WR#2 or low level WR#1 for a few years until some of my youth fully develops.Is this offer too little, too much, or in the ball park. Any other WR's to target in a deal like this?

I am not a huge Berrian fan, but I think you are giving too much. Take this as just my personal rankings, but I have the 1.07 and Berrian as more than Holt. I have the 1.07 (Malcom Kelly) in the middle WR20s and Holt in the high teens. I think I would shoot for a younger receiver if you are giving the pick and Berrian. If you want an older, more established wr, I might look at Plax. If going for a younger wr, I would look at Steve Smith (who disappointed), Bowe (if you love him), or Boldin.I also might try to move Berrian straight up for Driver (may be too on the old side), Roddy White, Chambers, or even Anthony Gonzalez.You have a good team. Jeff

Some good ideas there, an owner is looking to move L. White. What do you think about trading Berrian for L. White, it is a 1ppr league.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Jeff,My team, 1ppr:QB-Shaub, Leinart, Warner, Rodgers (start 1)RB- A. Peterson (Minn), K. Jones, Bensen, A. Bradshaw, B. Jackson, A. Hall, M. Moore (start 2-3)WR- A. Johnson, Cotchery, Berrian, S. Rice, L. Robinson, J. Gage, M. Walker (start 3-4)TE- Winslow, O. Daniels (start 1-2)PK- BironasDef-ColtsI like Berrian but I'm concerned having 3 Vikings on my roster. I'm thinking of offering Berrian and my 1.7 pick for T. Holt. I'm a little concerned about his knee but I would like to get a WR to produce at a high level WR#2 or low level WR#1 for a few years until some of my youth fully develops.Is this offer too little, too much, or in the ball park. Any other WR's to target in a deal like this?

I am not a huge Berrian fan, but I think you are giving too much. Take this as just my personal rankings, but I have the 1.07 and Berrian as more than Holt. I have the 1.07 (Malcom Kelly) in the middle WR20s and Holt in the high teens. I think I would shoot for a younger receiver if you are giving the pick and Berrian. If you want an older, more established wr, I might look at Plax. If going for a younger wr, I would look at Steve Smith (who disappointed), Bowe (if you love him), or Boldin.I also might try to move Berrian straight up for Driver (may be too on the old side), Roddy White, Chambers, or even Anthony Gonzalez.You have a good team. Jeff

Some good ideas there, an owner is looking to move L. White. What do you think about trading Berrian for L. White, it is a 1ppr league.

I like the idea, esp with LD White getting so little love this offseason.

 

[dmac37]

Jeff,My team, 1ppr:QB-Shaub, Leinart, Warner, Rodgers (start 1)RB- A. Peterson (Minn), K. Jones, Bensen, A. Bradshaw, B. Jackson, A. Hall, M. Moore (start 2-3)WR- A. Johnson, Cotchery, Berrian, S. Rice, L. Robinson, J. Gage, M. Walker (start 3-4)TE- Winslow, O. Daniels (start 1-2)PK- BironasDef-ColtsI like Berrian but I'm concerned having 3 Vikings on my roster. I'm thinking of offering Berrian and my 1.7 pick for T. Holt. I'm a little concerned about his knee but I would like to get a WR to produce at a high level WR#2 or low level WR#1 for a few years until some of my youth fully develops.Is this offer too little, too much, or in the ball park. Any other WR's to target in a deal like this?

I am not a huge Berrian fan, but I think you are giving too much. Take this as just my personal rankings, but I have the 1.07 and Berrian as more than Holt. I have the 1.07 (Malcom Kelly) in the middle WR20s and Holt in the high teens. I think I would shoot for a younger receiver if you are giving the pick and Berrian. If you want an older, more established wr, I might look at Plax. If going for a younger wr, I would look at Steve Smith (who disappointed), Bowe (if you love him), or Boldin.I also might try to move Berrian straight up for Driver (may be too on the old side), Roddy White, Chambers, or even Anthony Gonzalez.You have a good team. Jeff

Well I finally was able to make a trade. Berrian for Driver, I did not like Berrian going to Minn. A) Jackson and the lack of a passing game B) I already have AD and Rice. I think Rice will be the #1 WR for Minn. sooner rather than later.Also I have a lot of young WR's at least one should develop by the time Driver moves on. I also believe Driver may benefit more than Jennings, with Rodgers throwing to move the chains rather than the deep ball to Jennings. Time will tell, thanks for the help.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Jeff,My team, 1ppr:QB-Shaub, Leinart, Warner, Rodgers (start 1)RB- A. Peterson (Minn), K. Jones, Bensen, A. Bradshaw, B. Jackson, A. Hall, M. Moore (start 2-3)WR- A. Johnson, Cotchery, Berrian, S. Rice, L. Robinson, J. Gage, M. Walker (start 3-4)TE- Winslow, O. Daniels (start 1-2)PK- BironasDef-ColtsI like Berrian but I'm concerned having 3 Vikings on my roster. I'm thinking of offering Berrian and my 1.7 pick for T. Holt. I'm a little concerned about his knee but I would like to get a WR to produce at a high level WR#2 or low level WR#1 for a few years until some of my youth fully develops.Is this offer too little, too much, or in the ball park. Any other WR's to target in a deal like this?

I am not a huge Berrian fan, but I think you are giving too much. Take this as just my personal rankings, but I have the 1.07 and Berrian as more than Holt. I have the 1.07 (Malcom Kelly) in the middle WR20s and Holt in the high teens. I think I would shoot for a younger receiver if you are giving the pick and Berrian. If you want an older, more established wr, I might look at Plax. If going for a younger wr, I would look at Steve Smith (who disappointed), Bowe (if you love him), or Boldin.I also might try to move Berrian straight up for Driver (may be too on the old side), Roddy White, Chambers, or even Anthony Gonzalez.You have a good team. Jeff

Well I finally was able to make a trade. Berrian for Driver, I did not like Berrian going to Minn. A) Jackson and the lack of a passing game B) I already have AD and Rice. I think Rice will be the #1 WR for Minn. sooner rather than later.Also I have a lot of young WR's at least one should develop by the time Driver moves on. I also believe Driver may benefit more than Jennings, with Rodgers throwing to move the chains rather than the deep ball to Jennings. Time will tell, thanks for the help.

I like it a lot. Driver still has a couple of years left at a high level.

 

[Kimbo Slice]

Hey Jeff,

Interested in your approach on trading dynasty rookie picks with dynasty rookie picks (no players involved) specifically with this years rookie draft in mind.

I am having a hard time gaging value specifically on the top three picks (1.1-1.3). Everyone seems to agree on the top three (no specific order) and assume their value is virtually the same (pre-draft). Given this fact, if I was to move one of the top three picks, what would be fair market value getting additional picks (1st or 2nd round) in return.

If scoring matters;

RB's= 0ppr, WR's= 1ppr and TE's=2ppr. Standard starting lineups with no IDP.

Thanks for the help.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Hey Jeff,Interested in your approach on trading dynasty rookie picks with dynasty rookie picks (no players involved) specifically with this years rookie draft in mind.I am having a hard time gaging value specifically on the top three picks (1.1-1.3). Everyone seems to agree on the top three (no specific order) and assume their value is virtually the same (pre-draft). Given this fact, if I was to move one of the top three picks, what would be fair market value getting additional picks (1st or 2nd round) in return. If scoring matters;RB's= 0ppr, WR's= 1ppr and TE's=2ppr. Standard starting lineups with no IDP. Thanks for the help.

If I understand the question correctly, here is how I value those picks:1.01 - worth more than any qb ore wr and all but six or seven RBs. We all rank players differently, but I would prefer these RBs to the pick: LT, SJax, APeterson, Addai, RBush, Westbrook, and MJD (very close).1.02 - worth more than any qb. WR is all depending on perspective, but many may have their top wr ahead of this pick. I would only have the above RBs in favor of this pick as well. This pick is a very good one this year. There will be at least two of those rookies that land in great situations.1.03 - Worth more than any qb, outside of Brady, and all WRs except a couple. I would prefer the RBs listed above, plus Lynch and MB3. I hope this makes sense. I judge the picks by what I would trade them for. I recently made a deal in a PPR dynasty where I traded LJ and 1.03 for LT and Turner. Many love those high picks. Their value is only going up.

 

[Kimbo Slice]

Hey Jeff,Interested in your approach on trading dynasty rookie picks with dynasty rookie picks (no players involved) specifically with this years rookie draft in mind.I am having a hard time gaging value specifically on the top three picks (1.1-1.3). Everyone seems to agree on the top three (no specific order) and assume their value is virtually the same (pre-draft). Given this fact, if I was to move one of the top three picks, what would be fair market value getting additional picks (1st or 2nd round) in return. If scoring matters;RB's= 0ppr, WR's= 1ppr and TE's=2ppr. Standard starting lineups with no IDP. Thanks for the help.

If I understand the question correctly, here is how I value those picks:1.01 - worth more than any qb ore wr and all but six or seven RBs. We all rank players differently, but I would prefer these RBs to the pick: LT, SJax, APeterson, Addai, RBush, Westbrook, and MJD (very close).1.02 - worth more than any qb. WR is all depending on perspective, but many may have their top wr ahead of this pick. I would only have the above RBs in favor of this pick as well. This pick is a very good one this year. There will be at least two of those rookies that land in great situations.1.03 - Worth more than any qb, outside of Brady, and all WRs except a couple. I would prefer the RBs listed above, plus Lynch and MB3. I hope this makes sense. I judge the picks by what I would trade them for. I recently made a deal in a PPR dynasty where I traded LJ and 1.03 for LT and Turner. Many love those high picks. Their value is only going up.

No but thanks for the reply!! I will try to simplify it.Instead of ranking the type of current players in relation to the pick, substitute them for a 2008 rookie pick or combination of picks.For example: Team A gives the 1.2 from the 2008 rookie draft. Team B gives up the 1.10 and 2.3 from the 2008 rookie draft.So, I am trying to apply value to the first three picks of this years draft as they relate to later picks in the same draft.HTH and thanks for the reply.ETA: Your last point brings up a second question.When are high picks (1.1-1.3) in this years rookie draft at their highest value? Pre or Post NFL Draft? So if I own one of those picks, is it a sellers market or buyers??

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Hey Jeff,Interested in your approach on trading dynasty rookie picks with dynasty rookie picks (no players involved) specifically with this years rookie draft in mind.I am having a hard time gaging value specifically on the top three picks (1.1-1.3). Everyone seems to agree on the top three (no specific order) and assume their value is virtually the same (pre-draft). Given this fact, if I was to move one of the top three picks, what would be fair market value getting additional picks (1st or 2nd round) in return. If scoring matters;RB's= 0ppr, WR's= 1ppr and TE's=2ppr. Standard starting lineups with no IDP. Thanks for the help.

If I understand the question correctly, here is how I value those picks:1.01 - worth more than any qb ore wr and all but six or seven RBs. We all rank players differently, but I would prefer these RBs to the pick: LT, SJax, APeterson, Addai, RBush, Westbrook, and MJD (very close).1.02 - worth more than any qb. WR is all depending on perspective, but many may have their top wr ahead of this pick. I would only have the above RBs in favor of this pick as well. This pick is a very good one this year. There will be at least two of those rookies that land in great situations.1.03 - Worth more than any qb, outside of Brady, and all WRs except a couple. I would prefer the RBs listed above, plus Lynch and MB3. I hope this makes sense. I judge the picks by what I would trade them for. I recently made a deal in a PPR dynasty where I traded LJ and 1.03 for LT and Turner. Many love those high picks. Their value is only going up.

No but thanks for the reply!! I will try to simplify it.Instead of ranking the type of current players in relation to the pick, substitute them for a 2008 rookie pick or combination of picks.For example: Team A gives the 1.2 from the 2008 rookie draft. Team B gives up the 1.10 and 2.3 from the 2008 rookie draft.So, I am trying to apply value to the first three picks of this years draft as they relate to later picks in the same draft.HTH and thanks for the reply.ETA: Your last point brings up a second question.When are high picks (1.1-1.3) in this years rookie draft at their highest value? Pre or Post NFL Draft? So if I own one of those picks, is it a sellers market or buyers??

sorry. I mean this fairly emphatically. I would not trade one of those picks (esp the top two) for a package of picks only. The dropoff in talent is steep and it is not worth it. If you are trading one of those picks, I would want a proven, yet young, player.I expect the first two picks to be worth more after the draft and 1.03 to be worth less. The 1.03 might be the RB in the worst of the situations.

 

[Kimbo Slice]

Hey Jeff,Interested in your approach on trading dynasty rookie picks with dynasty rookie picks (no players involved) specifically with this years rookie draft in mind.I am having a hard time gaging value specifically on the top three picks (1.1-1.3). Everyone seems to agree on the top three (no specific order) and assume their value is virtually the same (pre-draft). Given this fact, if I was to move one of the top three picks, what would be fair market value getting additional picks (1st or 2nd round) in return. If scoring matters;RB's= 0ppr, WR's= 1ppr and TE's=2ppr. Standard starting lineups with no IDP. Thanks for the help.

If I understand the question correctly, here is how I value those picks:1.01 - worth more than any qb ore wr and all but six or seven RBs. We all rank players differently, but I would prefer these RBs to the pick: LT, SJax, APeterson, Addai, RBush, Westbrook, and MJD (very close).1.02 - worth more than any qb. WR is all depending on perspective, but many may have their top wr ahead of this pick. I would only have the above RBs in favor of this pick as well. This pick is a very good one this year. There will be at least two of those rookies that land in great situations.1.03 - Worth more than any qb, outside of Brady, and all WRs except a couple. I would prefer the RBs listed above, plus Lynch and MB3. I hope this makes sense. I judge the picks by what I would trade them for. I recently made a deal in a PPR dynasty where I traded LJ and 1.03 for LT and Turner. Many love those high picks. Their value is only going up.

No but thanks for the reply!! I will try to simplify it.Instead of ranking the type of current players in relation to the pick, substitute them for a 2008 rookie pick or combination of picks.For example: Team A gives the 1.2 from the 2008 rookie draft. Team B gives up the 1.10 and 2.3 from the 2008 rookie draft.So, I am trying to apply value to the first three picks of this years draft as they relate to later picks in the same draft.HTH and thanks for the reply.ETA: Your last point brings up a second question.When are high picks (1.1-1.3) in this years rookie draft at their highest value? Pre or Post NFL Draft? So if I own one of those picks, is it a sellers market or buyers??

sorry. I mean this fairly emphatically. I would not trade one of those picks (esp the top two) for a package of picks only. The dropoff in talent is steep and it is not worth it. If you are trading one of those picks, I would want a proven, yet young, player.I expect the first two picks to be worth more after the draft and 1.03 to be worth less. The 1.03 might be the RB in the worst of the situations.

Does the scoring system change anything for you? WR's and TE's are the top scorers and RB's are not as valuable. Out of the top 30 scorers in this format, only two RB's were in the top 30. Only LT and Westy broke the top 30.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Hey Jeff,Interested in your approach on trading dynasty rookie picks with dynasty rookie picks (no players involved) specifically with this years rookie draft in mind.I am having a hard time gaging value specifically on the top three picks (1.1-1.3). Everyone seems to agree on the top three (no specific order) and assume their value is virtually the same (pre-draft). Given this fact, if I was to move one of the top three picks, what would be fair market value getting additional picks (1st or 2nd round) in return. If scoring matters;RB's= 0ppr, WR's= 1ppr and TE's=2ppr. Standard starting lineups with no IDP. Thanks for the help.

If I understand the question correctly, here is how I value those picks:1.01 - worth more than any qb ore wr and all but six or seven RBs. We all rank players differently, but I would prefer these RBs to the pick: LT, SJax, APeterson, Addai, RBush, Westbrook, and MJD (very close).1.02 - worth more than any qb. WR is all depending on perspective, but many may have their top wr ahead of this pick. I would only have the above RBs in favor of this pick as well. This pick is a very good one this year. There will be at least two of those rookies that land in great situations.1.03 - Worth more than any qb, outside of Brady, and all WRs except a couple. I would prefer the RBs listed above, plus Lynch and MB3. I hope this makes sense. I judge the picks by what I would trade them for. I recently made a deal in a PPR dynasty where I traded LJ and 1.03 for LT and Turner. Many love those high picks. Their value is only going up.

No but thanks for the reply!! I will try to simplify it.Instead of ranking the type of current players in relation to the pick, substitute them for a 2008 rookie pick or combination of picks.For example: Team A gives the 1.2 from the 2008 rookie draft. Team B gives up the 1.10 and 2.3 from the 2008 rookie draft.So, I am trying to apply value to the first three picks of this years draft as they relate to later picks in the same draft.HTH and thanks for the reply.ETA: Your last point brings up a second question.When are high picks (1.1-1.3) in this years rookie draft at their highest value? Pre or Post NFL Draft? So if I own one of those picks, is it a sellers market or buyers??

sorry. I mean this fairly emphatically. I would not trade one of those picks (esp the top two) for a package of picks only. The dropoff in talent is steep and it is not worth it. If you are trading one of those picks, I would want a proven, yet young, player.I expect the first two picks to be worth more after the draft and 1.03 to be worth less. The 1.03 might be the RB in the worst of the situations.

Does the scoring system change anything for you? WR's and TE's are the top scorers and RB's are not as valuable. Out of the top 30 scorers in this format, only two RB's were in the top 30. Only LT and Westy broke the top 30.

It really does not matter. Most people are still chasing RBs, I assume. The WRs will offset leaving the LT owner with a huge advantage over the teams that start Benson or Thomas Jones.

 

[JPeso]

Hey Jeff, could you take a peak at my topic when you get a chance? Thanks.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=386400

 

[Packers4ever]

I give A. Bradshaw and 2008 pick 1.08 for S. Young, 2009 1st and 2nd round picks.

He finished in tenth in 2007 and will probably be near the bottom in next years draft.

This is a 12 team dynasty league.

Would you do this trade, I would not have a 1st round pick this year but would have 2 1st & 2nd's next year.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I give A. Bradshaw and 2008 pick 1.08 for S. Young, 2009 1st and 2nd round picks.He finished in tenth in 2007 and will probably be near the bottom in next years draft.This is a 12 team dynasty league.Would you do this trade, I would not have a 1st round pick this year but would have 2 1st & 2nd's next year.

I do not think I would do that deal. I guess it depends on what your team looks like, but if that other team finishes .500, you would not be happy. I will say I am very optimistic on Bradshaw. That guy looked good. He is worth more than Selvin for sure. Comes down to 1.08 for a 2009 1st and 2nd.I see why that is intriguing, but I would pass. Not worth the risk.

 

[Packers4ever]

I give A. Bradshaw and 2008 pick 1.08 for S. Young, 2009 1st and 2nd round picks.He finished in tenth in 2007 and will probably be near the bottom in next years draft.This is a 12 team dynasty league.Would you do this trade, I would not have a 1st round pick this year but would have 2 1st & 2nd's next year.

I do not think I would do that deal. I guess it depends on what your team looks like, but if that other team finishes .500, you would not be happy. I will say I am very optimistic on Bradshaw. That guy looked good. He is worth more than Selvin for sure. Comes down to 1.08 for a 2009 1st and 2nd.I see why that is intriguing, but I would pass. Not worth the risk.

Ok another one from same team, same league.I give B. Edwards and I get T. Owens and his 2009 1st round pick.This one I would say it all depends on how long TO plays. I don't really need WR's, I am more in need of RB's . I don't have a chance at winning next year with my team. I just happen to get lucky this year and just made it into the playoffs then I one the first game since the other team tank in that game.And my 1.08 is really the 1.07 pick since the team with the #1 pick put in all his second team players for the last 4 weeks of the season so the commish took his 1st round pick away from him.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I give A. Bradshaw and 2008 pick 1.08 for S. Young, 2009 1st and 2nd round picks.He finished in tenth in 2007 and will probably be near the bottom in next years draft.This is a 12 team dynasty league.Would you do this trade, I would not have a 1st round pick this year but would have 2 1st & 2nd's next year.

I do not think I would do that deal. I guess it depends on what your team looks like, but if that other team finishes .500, you would not be happy. I will say I am very optimistic on Bradshaw. That guy looked good. He is worth more than Selvin for sure. Comes down to 1.08 for a 2009 1st and 2nd.I see why that is intriguing, but I would pass. Not worth the risk.

Ok another one from same team, same league.I give B. Edwards and I get T. Owens and his 2009 1st round pick.This one I would say it all depends on how long TO plays. I don't really need WR's, I am more in need of RB's . I don't have a chance at winning next year with my team. I just happen to get lucky this year and just made it into the playoffs then I one the first game since the other team tank in that game.And my 1.08 is really the 1.07 pick since the team with the #1 pick put in all his second team players for the last 4 weeks of the season so the commish took his 1st round pick away from him.

TO is a player I am advising to sell, not buy. The guy will be 35 soon enough and cannot have too many top years left. I would keep Braylon.

 

[Gottabesweet]

12 team dynasty, start 2rb 3wr 1 flex

I also pick 1.2 and 1.3 2.2 - my question is at the end of rosters

RB -

Ladadian Tomlinson good top 3, no real depth, do have 1.2, 1.3 (stewart news scares me)

Joseph Addai

Marshawn Lynch

Darren Sproles

Avion Cason

Cecil Sapp

Tony Hunt

Fred Jackson

Gilbert Harris

JackieBattle

Kenneth Darby

Justin Vincent

Danny Ware

Alonzo Coleman

Shaud Williams

Craig Davis

Gary Russell

Summary: Here I have a nice top 3, , Tomlinson is actually getting older and may be slowing down but I'll keep him. I don't have depth as we can start 3 rb's. Sproles is decent as he gets alot of PR/KR points. I have a lot of flyers on backups and 3rd/4th stringers hoping to hit gold. What is your take on some of the poor quality RB's I stashed? I also have Tony Hunt was real high on him last year and traded up to get him. Stuck behind Westy and Buckhalter I may be stuck there. At 1.2 and 1.3 I plan on taking 2 of the big 4 rb's and potentially help my depth and hope one of them becomes a stud (Mendenhall, Stewart or Jones) depending on the situation they land in.

Lee Evans (decent top 5)

Larry Fitzgerald

Jerricho Cotchery

Andre Johnson

Sidney Rice

Roscoe Parrish

Laurent Robinson

Peerless Price

Jason Avant

David Ball

Yamon Figurs

G Martinez

Devard Darling

Ryne Robinson

Craig Davis

Brad Smith

Ruvell Martin

Sam Aiken

Issac Stanback

Hank Baskett

Should I be shopping the 1.3 for a Runningback, if so what runningbacks would be the only players to trade for.

Should I deal the 2.2 for a Lendale White maybe? and then deal the 1.3 for a big wr?

I'm just curious where you'd go from here?

Stay put and keep the 1.3 and ride it out this year with 3 solid rb's and 2 rookies (mendenhall/stewart)

 

[dmac37]

Jeff,My team, 1ppr:QB-Shaub, Leinart, Warner, Rodgers (start 1)RB- A. Peterson (Minn), K. Jones, Bensen, A. Bradshaw, B. Jackson, A. Hall, M. Moore (start 2-3)WR- A. Johnson, Cotchery, Driver, S. Rice, L. Robinson, J. Gage, M. Walker (start 3-4)TE- Winslow, O. Daniels (start 1-2)PK- BironasDef-Colts

One more move I'm thinking about. Trading Leinart and Warner for Fargas and Michael Bush. What do you think about the trade itself, value of Fargas and Bush. Also would I be too thin at QB with Schaub and Rodgers?

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Jeff,My team, 1ppr:QB-Shaub, Leinart, Warner, Rodgers (start 1)RB- A. Peterson (Minn), K. Jones, Bensen, A. Bradshaw, B. Jackson, A. Hall, M. Moore (start 2-3)WR- A. Johnson, Cotchery, Driver, S. Rice, L. Robinson, J. Gage, M. Walker (start 3-4)TE- Winslow, O. Daniels (start 1-2)PK- BironasDef-Colts

One more move I'm thinking about. Trading Leinart and Warner for Fargas and Michael Bush. What do you think about the trade itself, value of Fargas and Bush. Also would I be too thin at QB with Schaub and Rodgers?

I like the idea of the deal, but would wait until after the draft. Would hate to make the deal and see Oakland take McFadden in the first or even a guy like Ray Rice in second.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

12 team dynasty, start 2rb 3wr 1 flex

I also pick 1.2 and 1.3 2.2 - my question is at the end of rosters

RB -

Ladadian Tomlinson good top 3, no real depth, do have 1.2, 1.3 (stewart news scares me)

Joseph Addai

Marshawn Lynch

Darren Sproles

Avion Cason - not a huge fan. looked good on Thanksgiving, but all on receiving yards. Rarely got carries.

Cecil Sapp - not a fan at all

Tony Hunt - worth holding on to and hope he hits.

Fred Jackson - very high on, sleeper

Gilbert Harris - do not like

Jackie Battle - do not like, tweener and maybe a fullback in future

Kenneth Darby - not a fan. Did not like him at bama

Justin Vincent - not a fan

Danny Ware - do not like. could not get carries in a good situation last yrAlonzo Coleman - has not gotten much opportunityShaud Williams - no way

Craig Davis fullback primarily, not enough fantasy upside

Gary Russell - worth holding on to. showed a little promise

Summary: Here I have a nice top 3, , Tomlinson is actually getting older and may be slowing down but I'll keep him. I don't have depth as we can start 3 rb's. Sproles is decent as he gets alot of PR/KR points. I have a lot of flyers on backups and 3rd/4th stringers hoping to hit gold. What is your take on some of the poor quality RB's I stashed? I also have Tony Hunt was real high on him last year and traded up to get him. Stuck behind Westy and Buckhalter I may be stuck there. At 1.2 and 1.3 I plan on taking 2 of the big 4 rb's and potentially help my depth and hope one of them becomes a stud (Mendenhall, Stewart or Jones) depending on the situation they land in.

Lee Evans (decent top 5)

Larry Fitzgerald

Jerricho Cotchery

Andre Johnson

Sidney Rice

Roscoe Parrish

Laurent Robinson

Peerless Price

Jason Avant

David Ball

Yamon Figurs

G Martinez

Devard Darling

Ryne Robinson

Craig Davis

Brad Smith

Ruvell Martin

Sam Aiken

Issac Stanback

Hank Baskett

Should I be shopping the 1.3 for a Runningback, if so what runningbacks would be the only players to trade for. I would only trade the 1.03 for a wr if it was a top guy like Wayne, Fitz, etc. Otherwise, the RB will be worth a ton more.

Should I deal the 2.2 for a Lendale White maybe? and then deal the 1.3 for a big wr? I love the WRs available at the 2.02. I would not mess with White the way the Titans keep bringing in RBs. Also, if considering this deal, I would wait until after the draft. There is a chance they draft a RB in 2nd or 3rd.

I'm just curious where you'd go from here?

Stay put and keep the 1.3 and ride it out this year with 3 solid rb's and 2 rookies (mendenhall/stewart)

I think I might take RB?RB at 2 and 3. The one move I would consider would be to put LT on the market and see what happens. You could/should get offered a top RB and WR for him. Another alternative would be to see if the SJax owner would give you something extra to swap the two RBs, plus you get younger.

 

[Packers4ever]

I give A. Bradshaw and 2008 pick 1.08 for S. Young, 2009 1st and 2nd round picks.He finished in tenth in 2007 and will probably be near the bottom in next years draft.This is a 12 team dynasty league.Would you do this trade, I would not have a 1st round pick this year but would have 2 1st & 2nd's next year.

I do not think I would do that deal. I guess it depends on what your team looks like, but if that other team finishes .500, you would not be happy. I will say I am very optimistic on Bradshaw. That guy looked good. He is worth more than Selvin for sure. Comes down to 1.08 for a 2009 1st and 2nd.I see why that is intriguing, but I would pass. Not worth the risk.

Ok another one from same team, same league.I give B. Edwards and I get T. Owens and his 2009 1st round pick.This one I would say it all depends on how long TO plays. I don't really need WR's, I am more in need of RB's . I don't have a chance at winning next year with my team. I just happen to get lucky this year and just made it into the playoffs then I one the first game since the other team tank in that game.And my 1.08 is really the 1.07 pick since the team with the #1 pick put in all his second team players for the last 4 weeks of the season so the commish took his 1st round pick away from him.

TO is a player I am advising to sell, not buy. The guy will be 35 soon enough and cannot have too many top years left. I would keep Braylon.

I think I know the answer but would like another opinion. I trade M. Barber for the 1.04 pick but really is the 1.03 pick. I would say no becasue my RB's are not all that good right now. McAllister, C. Brown, M. Barber, J. Norwood, K. Watson, L. White, & A. Bradshaw are my RB's.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I give A. Bradshaw and 2008 pick 1.08 for S. Young, 2009 1st and 2nd round picks.He finished in tenth in 2007 and will probably be near the bottom in next years draft.This is a 12 team dynasty league.Would you do this trade, I would not have a 1st round pick this year but would have 2 1st & 2nd's next year.

I do not think I would do that deal. I guess it depends on what your team looks like, but if that other team finishes .500, you would not be happy. I will say I am very optimistic on Bradshaw. That guy looked good. He is worth more than Selvin for sure. Comes down to 1.08 for a 2009 1st and 2nd.I see why that is intriguing, but I would pass. Not worth the risk.

Ok another one from same team, same league.I give B. Edwards and I get T. Owens and his 2009 1st round pick.This one I would say it all depends on how long TO plays. I don't really need WR's, I am more in need of RB's . I don't have a chance at winning next year with my team. I just happen to get lucky this year and just made it into the playoffs then I one the first game since the other team tank in that game.And my 1.08 is really the 1.07 pick since the team with the #1 pick put in all his second team players for the last 4 weeks of the season so the commish took his 1st round pick away from him.

TO is a player I am advising to sell, not buy. The guy will be 35 soon enough and cannot have too many top years left. I would keep Braylon.

I think I know the answer but would like another opinion. I trade M. Barber for the 1.04 pick but really is the 1.03 pick. I would say no becasue my RB's are not all that good right now. McAllister, C. Brown, M. Barber, J. Norwood, K. Watson, L. White, & A. Bradshaw are my RB's.

no way. mb3>>>1.03 or 1.02

 

[Packers4ever]

I give A. Bradshaw and 2008 pick 1.08 for S. Young, 2009 1st and 2nd round picks.He finished in tenth in 2007 and will probably be near the bottom in next years draft.This is a 12 team dynasty league.Would you do this trade, I would not have a 1st round pick this year but would have 2 1st & 2nd's next year.

I do not think I would do that deal. I guess it depends on what your team looks like, but if that other team finishes .500, you would not be happy. I will say I am very optimistic on Bradshaw. That guy looked good. He is worth more than Selvin for sure. Comes down to 1.08 for a 2009 1st and 2nd.I see why that is intriguing, but I would pass. Not worth the risk.

Ok another one from same team, same league.I give B. Edwards and I get T. Owens and his 2009 1st round pick.This one I would say it all depends on how long TO plays. I don't really need WR's, I am more in need of RB's . I don't have a chance at winning next year with my team. I just happen to get lucky this year and just made it into the playoffs then I one the first game since the other team tank in that game.And my 1.08 is really the 1.07 pick since the team with the #1 pick put in all his second team players for the last 4 weeks of the season so the commish took his 1st round pick away from him.

TO is a player I am advising to sell, not buy. The guy will be 35 soon enough and cannot have too many top years left. I would keep Braylon.

I think I know the answer but would like another opinion. I trade M. Barber for the 1.04 pick but really is the 1.03 pick. I would say no becasue my RB's are not all that good right now. McAllister, C. Brown, M. Barber, J. Norwood, K. Watson, L. White, & A. Bradshaw are my RB's.

no way. mb3>>>1.03 or 1.02

Ok another one here, I will give you both teams.His Team QB's Romo, Tony, Smith, Alex RB's Bush, Michael, Calhoun, Brian, Jacobs, Brandon, Keith, Kenton, Peterson, Adrian CHI, Peterson, Adrian MIN Taylor, Fred, Ward, Derrick, Young, SelvinWR's Battle, Arnaz, Brown, Reggie, Cotchery, Jerricho, Jackson, Darrell, Johnson, Andre, Johnson, Bryant, Owens, Terrell, Welker, Wes TE's Gates, Antonio, Scheffler, Tony K Vinatieri, Adam DEF Broncos, Denver My TeamQB's Croyle, Brodie, McNabb, Donovan, Pennington, Chad RB's Barber, Marion, Bradshaw, Ahmad, Brown, Chris, Hall, Andre, McAllister, Deuce, Norwood, Jerious, Watson, Kenny, White, LenDaleWR's Burress, Plaxico, Edwards, Braylon, Galloway, Joey, Henderson, Devery, Wayne, ReggieTE's Heap, Todd, McMichael, Randy, Smith, L.J. K Akers, David, Rackers, Neil DEF Chargers, San Diego, Ravens, Baltimore Starters 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DefHe is asking what I would want for Bradshaw or my 1.08 pick. His first pick is at 3.01 for this year. Is there any trade you would offer him for Bradshaw or my 1.08 or both or do I just stay with what I have.Sorry for all the questions but I am the worst at doing trades.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I give A. Bradshaw and 2008 pick 1.08 for S. Young, 2009 1st and 2nd round picks.He finished in tenth in 2007 and will probably be near the bottom in next years draft.This is a 12 team dynasty league.Would you do this trade, I would not have a 1st round pick this year but would have 2 1st & 2nd's next year.

I do not think I would do that deal. I guess it depends on what your team looks like, but if that other team finishes .500, you would not be happy. I will say I am very optimistic on Bradshaw. That guy looked good. He is worth more than Selvin for sure. Comes down to 1.08 for a 2009 1st and 2nd.I see why that is intriguing, but I would pass. Not worth the risk.

Ok another one from same team, same league.I give B. Edwards and I get T. Owens and his 2009 1st round pick.This one I would say it all depends on how long TO plays. I don't really need WR's, I am more in need of RB's . I don't have a chance at winning next year with my team. I just happen to get lucky this year and just made it into the playoffs then I one the first game since the other team tank in that game.And my 1.08 is really the 1.07 pick since the team with the #1 pick put in all his second team players for the last 4 weeks of the season so the commish took his 1st round pick away from him.

TO is a player I am advising to sell, not buy. The guy will be 35 soon enough and cannot have too many top years left. I would keep Braylon.

I think I know the answer but would like another opinion. I trade M. Barber for the 1.04 pick but really is the 1.03 pick. I would say no becasue my RB's are not all that good right now. McAllister, C. Brown, M. Barber, J. Norwood, K. Watson, L. White, & A. Bradshaw are my RB's.

no way. mb3>>>1.03 or 1.02

Ok another one here, I will give you both teams.His Team QB's Romo, Tony, Smith, Alex RB's Bush, Michael, Calhoun, Brian, Jacobs, Brandon, Keith, Kenton, Peterson, Adrian CHI, Peterson, Adrian MIN Taylor, Fred, Ward, Derrick, Young, SelvinWR's Battle, Arnaz, Brown, Reggie, Cotchery, Jerricho, Jackson, Darrell, Johnson, Andre, Johnson, Bryant, Owens, Terrell, Welker, Wes TE's Gates, Antonio, Scheffler, Tony K Vinatieri, Adam DEF Broncos, Denver My TeamQB's Croyle, Brodie, McNabb, Donovan, Pennington, Chad RB's Barber, Marion, Bradshaw, Ahmad, Brown, Chris, Hall, Andre, McAllister, Deuce, Norwood, Jerious, Watson, Kenny, White, LenDaleWR's Burress, Plaxico, Edwards, Braylon, Galloway, Joey, Henderson, Devery, Wayne, ReggieTE's Heap, Todd, McMichael, Randy, Smith, L.J. K Akers, David, Rackers, Neil DEF Chargers, San Diego, Ravens, Baltimore Starters 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DefHe is asking what I would want for Bradshaw or my 1.08 pick. His first pick is at 3.01 for this year. Is there any trade you would offer him for Bradshaw or my 1.08 or both or do I just stay with what I have.Sorry for all the questions but I am the worst at doing trades.

I would keep Bradshaw for now. Bradshaw was sold for the 1.11 in one of my leagues and the buyer thought he got a great deal. You really could use him as potentially your RB2 if he plays well.The 1.08 should only be sold to upgrade QB or RB. At QB, I would consider McNabb and the 1.08 for Romo. I do not know if the other guy will go for it, but it is worth the shot. He does not have any RBs I would trade the pick for.

 

[Packers4ever]

7 player keeper league, 10 teams, standard scoring with all TD's 6 points even for QB's & no PPR.My keepers as of nowHasselbeck, R. Brown, Westbrook, J. Lewis, T. Jones, R. Moss, S. Smith.I have the #2 & #10 picks in the 2008 draft.Should I offer this trade Lewis & Cotchery and the #10pick for McGahee. Do you think he would go for this trade. He told me he was interested in Cotchery and wanted to move either Portis or McGahee. The #2 pick is his from a earlier trade. I drafted Cotchery at 1.09 this year, just to let you know what will be out there for players in the draft. So the ten in not worth alot do you think I will need to up the pick ot the #2 position or do you think that is to much.

I like the deal if it includes the 10 pick. No way would I include the 2. If you pass on the deal, you might consider keeping Cotch instead of TJones.

He countered with Lewis , 1.02 & 1.10 for McGahee I don't think I will take this deal but wanted to know what you think of it.Starting lineup 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 Flex(RB, WR, or TE)

I do not like it either ..... who knows what the Ravens will look like in 2008 with all new coaches on a rebuilding team

Heres another trade in this league that someone has offered me. Addia for WestbrookI have not made any of the above trades so my keepers are still the same other then maybe cotch instead of Jones might be able to trade Jones for a 2nd round pick.I like Westbrook better then Addia for the next few years but I know Westbrook does not have that many more years so do I trade him know to get younger and do you think I should be able to get more for him.

I am a huge Westbrook fan that was down on Addai. But, I think I would do that deal. I might wait until the playoffs are over just to make sure Addai does not get injured, but I like his upside.

I did the trade except that I included my 1.10 for his 1.08. So the trade ended up loooking like this I get Addia and 1.08 and he got Westbrook and 1.10.Now I might trade the 1.08 for H. Ward or do you like Cotchery better then Ward. What about D. Driver or J. Walker for the 1.08. I really want to upgrade my 3rd WR but don't know if this is a Up grade over Cotchery.

I like Cotch better than those WRs. He is still real young. Also, I would hold picks as long as possible. They will be worth more the closer your draft gets. This is a good rookie class and the pick will be worth quite a bit.

What about Jones and my 4.01 for the 2.01 & 5.02. I offered Jones for 2.01 and this is what he countered with.I will need to cut either Jones or Cotch and would rather keep Cotch as my 3 WR and with the 2.01 pick it will give me 3 picks in the top 11( 1.02 & 1.08).

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

7 player keeper league, 10 teams, standard scoring with all TD's 6 points even for QB's & no PPR.My keepers as of nowHasselbeck, R. Brown, Westbrook, J. Lewis, T. Jones, R. Moss, S. Smith.I have the #2 & #10 picks in the 2008 draft.Should I offer this trade Lewis & Cotchery and the #10pick for McGahee. Do you think he would go for this trade. He told me he was interested in Cotchery and wanted to move either Portis or McGahee. The #2 pick is his from a earlier trade. I drafted Cotchery at 1.09 this year, just to let you know what will be out there for players in the draft. So the ten in not worth alot do you think I will need to up the pick ot the #2 position or do you think that is to much.

I like the deal if it includes the 10 pick. No way would I include the 2. If you pass on the deal, you might consider keeping Cotch instead of TJones.

He countered with Lewis , 1.02 & 1.10 for McGahee I don't think I will take this deal but wanted to know what you think of it.Starting lineup 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 Flex(RB, WR, or TE)

I do not like it either ..... who knows what the Ravens will look like in 2008 with all new coaches on a rebuilding team

Heres another trade in this league that someone has offered me. Addia for WestbrookI have not made any of the above trades so my keepers are still the same other then maybe cotch instead of Jones might be able to trade Jones for a 2nd round pick.I like Westbrook better then Addia for the next few years but I know Westbrook does not have that many more years so do I trade him know to get younger and do you think I should be able to get more for him.

I am a huge Westbrook fan that was down on Addai. But, I think I would do that deal. I might wait until the playoffs are over just to make sure Addai does not get injured, but I like his upside.

I did the trade except that I included my 1.10 for his 1.08. So the trade ended up loooking like this I get Addia and 1.08 and he got Westbrook and 1.10.Now I might trade the 1.08 for H. Ward or do you like Cotchery better then Ward. What about D. Driver or J. Walker for the 1.08. I really want to upgrade my 3rd WR but don't know if this is a Up grade over Cotchery.

I like Cotch better than those WRs. He is still real young. Also, I would hold picks as long as possible. They will be worth more the closer your draft gets. This is a good rookie class and the pick will be worth quite a bit.

What about Jones and my 4.01 for the 2.01 & 5.02. I offered Jones for 2.01 and this is what he countered with.I will need to cut either Jones or Cotch and would rather keep Cotch as my 3 WR and with the 2.01 pick it will give me 3 picks in the top 11( 1.02 & 1.08).

Would love it for you to sell Thomas Jones for that high. I, too, like Cotch much more than Jones.

 

[dmac37]

I was thinking of offering this trade.

Giving up

Benson

B. Jackson

2008 1.7 pick

2009 1st round pick

Getting

R. Bush

C. Taylor

This is a 12 team 1ppr league, of course Bush has higher value in ppr but many seem to sour on him either way. I think he is a safe bet in ppr.

He has R. Grant and I have AD so both teams would have the back ups.

The other owner also has Portis and no 1st round draft pick this year

Giving up too little, too much or in the ball park?

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I was thinking of offering this trade.Giving upBensonB. Jackson2008 1.7 pick2009 1st round pickGettingR. BushC. TaylorThis is a 12 team 1ppr league, of course Bush has higher value in ppr but many seem to sour on him either way. I think he is a safe bet in ppr. He has R. Grant and I have AD so both teams would have the back ups.The other owner also has Portis and no 1st round draft pick this yearGiving up too little, too much or in the ball park?

That is a very good offer for Bush. I like it. On Portis, I would try not to give the 09 1st if possible. I like Bush much more in PPR than Portis.

 

[dmac37]

Jeff,

I've been offered a trade:

Give up

A. Johnson

Get

Bowe

T. Bell

Fargas

M Bush

2008 pick 1.5

I don't think I can do this, but it is a lot to offer for a WR that has yet to finish in the top, I value AJ too much. My concerns are Bowe on a bad offense, Dmac going to the Raiders, and value of the 1.5??? Do you think Bowe can be a FF #1 WR?

1.5 = Rice or F. Jones, neither a sure bet.

He also has Boldin, how do you compare Boldin vs Bowe vs AJ?

What do you think??

My team:

QB-Shaub, Leinart, Warner, Rodgers

RB- A. Peterson (Minn), K. Jones, Bensen, A. Bradshaw, B. Jackson, A. Hall, M. Moore

WR- A. Johnson, Cotchery, Driver, S. Rice, L. Robinson, J. Gage, M. Walker

TE- Winslow, O. Daniels

PK- Bironas

Def-Colts

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Jeff,I've been offered a trade:Give upA. JohnsonGetBoweT. BellFargasM Bush2008 pick 1.5I don't think I can do this, but it is a lot to offer for a WR that has yet to finish in the top, I value AJ too much. My concerns are Bowe on a bad offense, Dmac going to the Raiders, and value of the 1.5??? Do you think Bowe can be a FF #1 WR?1.5 = Rice or F. Jones, neither a sure bet. He also has Boldin, how do you compare Boldin vs Bowe vs AJ?What do you think??My team:QB-Shaub, Leinart, Warner, RodgersRB- A. Peterson (Minn), K. Jones, Bensen, A. Bradshaw, B. Jackson, A. Hall, M. MooreWR- A. Johnson, Cotchery, Driver, S. Rice, L. Robinson, J. Gage, M. WalkerTE- Winslow, O. DanielsPK- BironasDef-Colts

Boldin and Bowe are close for me, even though many on this board have Boldin much higher. I do not think you can afford to do this deal. If I owned AJ, I think I would want Boldin, Bowe, plus the pick. I know that sounds steep, but you are giving up a WR that many have as a top five wr.

 

[dmac37]

Jeff,I've been offered a trade:Give upA. JohnsonGetBoweT. BellFargasM Bush2008 pick 1.5I don't think I can do this, but it is a lot to offer for a WR that has yet to finish in the top, I value AJ too much. My concerns are Bowe on a bad offense, Dmac going to the Raiders, and value of the 1.5??? Do you think Bowe can be a FF #1 WR?1.5 = Rice or F. Jones, neither a sure bet. He also has Boldin, how do you compare Boldin vs Bowe vs AJ?What do you think??My team:QB-Shaub, Leinart, Warner, RodgersRB- A. Peterson (Minn), K. Jones, Bensen, A. Bradshaw, B. Jackson, A. Hall, M. MooreWR- A. Johnson, Cotchery, Driver, S. Rice, L. Robinson, J. Gage, M. WalkerTE- Winslow, O. DanielsPK- BironasDef-Colts

Boldin and Bowe are close for me, even though many on this board have Boldin much higher. I do not think you can afford to do this deal. If I owned AJ, I think I would want Boldin, Bowe, plus the pick. I know that sounds steep, but you are giving up a WR that many have as a top five wr.

I counter offered:GiveAJM MooreA HallJ GageGetBoldinBowepick 1.5FargasM BushEdit- Counter was rejected

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Jeff,I've been offered a trade:Give upA. JohnsonGetBoweT. BellFargasM Bush2008 pick 1.5I don't think I can do this, but it is a lot to offer for a WR that has yet to finish in the top, I value AJ too much. My concerns are Bowe on a bad offense, Dmac going to the Raiders, and value of the 1.5??? Do you think Bowe can be a FF #1 WR?1.5 = Rice or F. Jones, neither a sure bet. He also has Boldin, how do you compare Boldin vs Bowe vs AJ?What do you think??My team:QB-Shaub, Leinart, Warner, RodgersRB- A. Peterson (Minn), K. Jones, Bensen, A. Bradshaw, B. Jackson, A. Hall, M. MooreWR- A. Johnson, Cotchery, Driver, S. Rice, L. Robinson, J. Gage, M. WalkerTE- Winslow, O. DanielsPK- BironasDef-Colts

Boldin and Bowe are close for me, even though many on this board have Boldin much higher. I do not think you can afford to do this deal. If I owned AJ, I think I would want Boldin, Bowe, plus the pick. I know that sounds steep, but you are giving up a WR that many have as a top five wr.

I counter offered:GiveAJM MooreA HallJ GageGetBoldinBowepick 1.5FargasM BushEdit- Counter was rejected

that is ok, it is not a bad thing to hold AJ for now. That guy is being ranked as a top five receiver. His value is only going up this offseason.