wannabee Strategy Thread (2 Viewers)

[Gandalf]

horrible offer. It does not matter who is on your bench. That is like charging a rich guy more than a normal guy because he has more money in the bank. You have done a better job building a team than the other owner, keep the riches.

Thanks. Yeah I figured as much. Nice analogy of the rich guy with more money in the bank. That is so true. Another interesting lesson from this is to avoid the bait & switch by your trading partner. This was what happened in this case as all of a sudden he changed his offer asking for a lot more. It's frustrating, but obviously better to just walk away.

 

[Gandalf]

Is there a counter offer that you would make involving one or two of the players he mentioned. I don't want to just abandon the chance to get Manning. What do you see as a reasonable middle ground between our two offers? Maybe Palmer, Stewart (or Mendenhall) and Evans for Manning, Devine and Rice?

Or should I just walk away because we're too far apart?

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Is there a counter offer that you would make involving one or two of the players he mentioned. I don't want to just abandon the chance to get Manning. What do you see as a reasonable middle ground between our two offers? Maybe Palmer, Stewart (or Mendenhall) and Evans for Manning, Devine and Rice?Or should I just walk away because we're too far apart?

I think I would walk. Palmer and Stewart (or Mendenhall) is worth more than Manning and Devine.

 

[Gandalf]

Is there a counter offer that you would make involving one or two of the players he mentioned. I don't want to just abandon the chance to get Manning. What do you see as a reasonable middle ground between our two offers? Maybe Palmer, Stewart (or Mendenhall) and Evans for Manning, Devine and Rice?

Or should I just walk away because we're too far apart?

I think I would walk. Palmer and Stewart (or Mendenhall) is worth more than Manning and Devine.

Well I walked... walked right into another deal. I received Drew Brees ($16) and Darrell Scott (college freshman superstud; committed to Colorado) for Carson Palmer ($12) and Michael Turner ($4).For more info on Darrell Scott, here's his scout.com profile:

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p...amp;nid=2742300

I'm happy with this deal as I think Brees's production will have less volatility (i.e., less risk) compared to Palmer. Losing Turner hurts, but I'm stacked at RB still and Turner's salary will jump to at least $10 next season. Thus, I'll free up some cap room and get arguably the best RB in the freshman class who in a few years may replace an aging Steven Jackson. I think this puts me on firm footing for this year and beyond. And this was nowhere near what that other owner wanted for Peyton Manning. I see Drew Brees as a poor man's Manning.

Thoughts?

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Is there a counter offer that you would make involving one or two of the players he mentioned. I don't want to just abandon the chance to get Manning. What do you see as a reasonable middle ground between our two offers? Maybe Palmer, Stewart (or Mendenhall) and Evans for Manning, Devine and Rice?

Or should I just walk away because we're too far apart?

I think I would walk. Palmer and Stewart (or Mendenhall) is worth more than Manning and Devine.

Well I walked... walked right into another deal. I received Drew Brees ($16) and Darrell Scott (college freshman superstud; committed to Colorado) for Carson Palmer ($12) and Michael Turner ($4).For more info on Darrell Scott, here's his scout.com profile:

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p...amp;nid=2742300

I'm happy with this deal as I think Brees's production will have less volatility (i.e., less risk) compared to Palmer. Losing Turner hurts, but I'm stacked at RB still and Turner's salary will jump to at least $10 next season. Thus, I'll free up some cap room and get arguably the best RB in the freshman class who in a few years may replace an aging Steven Jackson. I think this puts me on firm footing for this year and beyond. And this was nowhere near what that other owner wanted for Peyton Manning. I see Drew Brees as a poor man's Manning.

Thoughts?

You will be happy with the deal. Brees is a true stud QB. Palmer's future does not look as bright as his past, imo.

 

[Kimbo Slice]

Hey JT,

Curious on your thoughts on rookie TE's in a HP Scoring format. 0 PPR RB's, 1 PPR WR's, and 2 PPR TE's.

Keller is on my radar and I am wondering if 1.7 is too high for him.

**To give you some insight on last year's league #s.**

2 RB's broke the top 30 in scoring

3 TE's were in the top 10

Thanks....

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Hey JT,Curious on your thoughts on rookie TE's in a HP Scoring format. 0 PPR RB's, 1 PPR WR's, and 2 PPR TE's.Keller is on my radar and I am wondering if 1.7 is too high for him.**To give you some insight on last year's league #s.**2 RB's broke the top 30 in scoring3 TE's were in the top 10Thanks....

Hey, I have a tough time predicting Keller with top 15 TE numbers with Baker and Bubba Franks there. In addition, the two Jet WRs are possession guys anyway, leaving little for the TEs. Plus, very few TEs produce in their rookie year.I actually think Carlson has more short term upside due to situation. Seattle has produced decent TE numbers (Stevens was ok). Sleeper rookie TEs would be Tamme in Indy, Rucker in Cleve, and Barnridge (sp?) in Carolina. I would also look at Fasano and Daniel Graham if need depth.In my rookie drafts, I passed on Keller because of WRs I liked more. I then looked for Carlson a half a round later.

 

[Packers4ever]

I am looking to trade for D. Brees but don't really know what to offer for him. I know in your dynasty rankings that G. Jennings and Brees are about the same but I don't think he would go for that. He is in need of both RB's & Wr's and told me to make him an offer or do you like Romo better because he told me he would trade either one of his QB's but said Romo would cost me. This is a 9 player keeper league or you can keep your whole team but then you do not get to be in the draft. My pick is 1.05 and his is 1.04. Starters are 1 QB, 2RB's, 3 WR's & 1 TE. Standard scoring with no PPR and QB's only get 4 pts/TD.My players QB's J. Cutler, V. Young, RB's F. Gore, W. McGahee, M. Turner, Caddy & K. JonesWR's A. Boldin, G. Jennings, S. Moss, S. Smith(Car), R. Williams, TE's WinslowHis playersQB's D. Brees, T. Romo, RB's W. Dunn, E. Graham, B. Jacobs, J. Jones, L. Maroney, WR's D. Bowe, P. Crayton, D. Driver, D. Mason, H. Ward, TE T. GonzalezSo what do you think I should offer for Brees or Romo or do you think I should just stay with what I have.

ok. This should not be too bad. In a league where you keep nine players, there is little way that the other owner wants to keep both of his QBs. As of now, your top ten keepers are:CutlerGore, McGahee, TurnerBoldin, Jennings, Moss, Steve Smith, Williams (if Roy)WinslowIf that is Roy, I think I would offer Cutler and Jennings or Roy for Brees since you have one extra good keeper. If that is Reggie Williams, I would offer Cutler and Smith for Brees and Driver ... then drop Reggie Wiliams. You have a good team and Cutler is not bad. I would not think you had to give a ton in this deal with that team. You can afford to make that team wait it out. No way should the other owner want to keep 2 QBs in a 9 player keeper when one starts.good luck.

Ok I offered him Roy Williams or Jennings and his pick between Culter or Caddy for Brees and told me he did not think this was enough for Brees. Should I try to offer Turner instead of one of the 2 WR's or do you think I could offer Turner and either Williams or Jennung for Romo. Also, he told me with his team that he would get both QB's if he could not trade one of them. I know I am heavy at WR but one of the strange things about this league is your points for a player on bye is carryovers to there bye week. So if a player scores 20 points in week 7 and has a bye in week 8 then he gets 20 points for week 8. So I only really need extra players for injuries or if one of my players has a bad week before their bye week. Would this rule make any difference with this either of these trades.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I am looking to trade for D. Brees but don't really know what to offer for him. I know in your dynasty rankings that G. Jennings and Brees are about the same but I don't think he would go for that. He is in need of both RB's & Wr's and told me to make him an offer or do you like Romo better because he told me he would trade either one of his QB's but said Romo would cost me. This is a 9 player keeper league or you can keep your whole team but then you do not get to be in the draft. My pick is 1.05 and his is 1.04. Starters are 1 QB, 2RB's, 3 WR's & 1 TE. Standard scoring with no PPR and QB's only get 4 pts/TD.My players QB's J. Cutler, V. Young, RB's F. Gore, W. McGahee, M. Turner, Caddy & K. JonesWR's A. Boldin, G. Jennings, S. Moss, S. Smith(Car), R. Williams, TE's WinslowHis playersQB's D. Brees, T. Romo, RB's W. Dunn, E. Graham, B. Jacobs, J. Jones, L. Maroney, WR's D. Bowe, P. Crayton, D. Driver, D. Mason, H. Ward, TE T. GonzalezSo what do you think I should offer for Brees or Romo or do you think I should just stay with what I have.

ok. This should not be too bad. In a league where you keep nine players, there is little way that the other owner wants to keep both of his QBs. As of now, your top ten keepers are:CutlerGore, McGahee, TurnerBoldin, Jennings, Moss, Steve Smith, Williams (if Roy)WinslowIf that is Roy, I think I would offer Cutler and Jennings or Roy for Brees since you have one extra good keeper. If that is Reggie Williams, I would offer Cutler and Smith for Brees and Driver ... then drop Reggie Wiliams. You have a good team and Cutler is not bad. I would not think you had to give a ton in this deal with that team. You can afford to make that team wait it out. No way should the other owner want to keep 2 QBs in a 9 player keeper when one starts.good luck.

Ok I offered him Roy Williams or Jennings and his pick between Culter or Caddy for Brees and told me he did not think this was enough for Brees. Should I try to offer Turner instead of one of the 2 WR's or do you think I could offer Turner and either Williams or Jennung for Romo. Also, he told me with his team that he would get both QB's if he could not trade one of them. I know I am heavy at WR but one of the strange things about this league is your points for a player on bye is carryovers to there bye week. So if a player scores 20 points in week 7 and has a bye in week 8 then he gets 20 points for week 8. So I only really need extra players for injuries or if one of my players has a bad week before their bye week. Would this rule make any difference with this either of these trades.

I think you offered a ton. I would not pursue it more. I might look at acquiring Delhomme, or even Garrard on the cheap. If you cannot pull that off, I would look at getting the Alex Smith/Shaun Hill combo. Also, I like Matt Moore, K Warner, and Losman as chances for upside. I think at this point you try to find some upside guys. If worried about the short term, look for Kitna or Garcia.

 

[Packers4ever]

I am looking to trade for D. Brees but don't really know what to offer for him. I know in your dynasty rankings that G. Jennings and Brees are about the same but I don't think he would go for that. He is in need of both RB's & Wr's and told me to make him an offer or do you like Romo better because he told me he would trade either one of his QB's but said Romo would cost me. This is a 9 player keeper league or you can keep your whole team but then you do not get to be in the draft. My pick is 1.05 and his is 1.04. Starters are 1 QB, 2RB's, 3 WR's & 1 TE. Standard scoring with no PPR and QB's only get 4 pts/TD.My players QB's J. Cutler, V. Young, RB's F. Gore, W. McGahee, M. Turner, Caddy & K. JonesWR's A. Boldin, G. Jennings, S. Moss, S. Smith(Car), R. Williams, TE's WinslowHis playersQB's D. Brees, T. Romo, RB's W. Dunn, E. Graham, B. Jacobs, J. Jones, L. Maroney, WR's D. Bowe, P. Crayton, D. Driver, D. Mason, H. Ward, TE T. GonzalezSo what do you think I should offer for Brees or Romo or do you think I should just stay with what I have.

ok. This should not be too bad. In a league where you keep nine players, there is little way that the other owner wants to keep both of his QBs. As of now, your top ten keepers are:CutlerGore, McGahee, TurnerBoldin, Jennings, Moss, Steve Smith, Williams (if Roy)WinslowIf that is Roy, I think I would offer Cutler and Jennings or Roy for Brees since you have one extra good keeper. If that is Reggie Williams, I would offer Cutler and Smith for Brees and Driver ... then drop Reggie Wiliams. You have a good team and Cutler is not bad. I would not think you had to give a ton in this deal with that team. You can afford to make that team wait it out. No way should the other owner want to keep 2 QBs in a 9 player keeper when one starts.good luck.

Ok I offered him Roy Williams or Jennings and his pick between Culter or Caddy for Brees and told me he did not think this was enough for Brees. Should I try to offer Turner instead of one of the 2 WR's or do you think I could offer Turner and either Williams or Jennung for Romo. Also, he told me with his team that he would get both QB's if he could not trade one of them. I know I am heavy at WR but one of the strange things about this league is your points for a player on bye is carryovers to there bye week. So if a player scores 20 points in week 7 and has a bye in week 8 then he gets 20 points for week 8. So I only really need extra players for injuries or if one of my players has a bad week before their bye week. Would this rule make any difference with this either of these trades.

I think you offered a ton. I would not pursue it more. I might look at acquiring Delhomme, or even Garrard on the cheap. If you cannot pull that off, I would look at getting the Alex Smith/Shaun Hill combo. Also, I like Matt Moore, K Warner, and Losman as chances for upside. I think at this point you try to find some upside guys. If worried about the short term, look for Kitna or Garcia.

OK I am done with him unless he offers something close to what I offered or takes my first trade. Do you think any of those QB's are better then Culter or are you talking about drafting one as a backup to Culter.

 

[Packers4ever]

7 player keeper league, 10 teams, standard scoring with all TD's 6 points even for QB's & no PPR.

Starting lineup 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB, WR, or TE)

Would you trade either the 2.03 or 2.04 for Harrison, he would become my third WR instead of Cotch or do you like Cotch better then Harrison. I might be able to pick Cotch back up with either the 2.03 or 2.04 since last year I drafted him at the end of the 2nd round.

Update on my keepers.

Hasselbeck, R. Brown, J. Addai, J. Lewis, R. Moss, S. Smith, Cotch.

I have the 1.02 pick in the 2008 draft plus I will have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I am looking to trade for D. Brees but don't really know what to offer for him. I know in your dynasty rankings that G. Jennings and Brees are about the same but I don't think he would go for that. He is in need of both RB's & Wr's and told me to make him an offer or do you like Romo better because he told me he would trade either one of his QB's but said Romo would cost me. This is a 9 player keeper league or you can keep your whole team but then you do not get to be in the draft. My pick is 1.05 and his is 1.04. Starters are 1 QB, 2RB's, 3 WR's & 1 TE. Standard scoring with no PPR and QB's only get 4 pts/TD.My players QB's J. Cutler, V. Young, RB's F. Gore, W. McGahee, M. Turner, Caddy & K. JonesWR's A. Boldin, G. Jennings, S. Moss, S. Smith(Car), R. Williams, TE's WinslowHis playersQB's D. Brees, T. Romo, RB's W. Dunn, E. Graham, B. Jacobs, J. Jones, L. Maroney, WR's D. Bowe, P. Crayton, D. Driver, D. Mason, H. Ward, TE T. GonzalezSo what do you think I should offer for Brees or Romo or do you think I should just stay with what I have.

ok. This should not be too bad. In a league where you keep nine players, there is little way that the other owner wants to keep both of his QBs. As of now, your top ten keepers are:CutlerGore, McGahee, TurnerBoldin, Jennings, Moss, Steve Smith, Williams (if Roy)WinslowIf that is Roy, I think I would offer Cutler and Jennings or Roy for Brees since you have one extra good keeper. If that is Reggie Williams, I would offer Cutler and Smith for Brees and Driver ... then drop Reggie Wiliams. You have a good team and Cutler is not bad. I would not think you had to give a ton in this deal with that team. You can afford to make that team wait it out. No way should the other owner want to keep 2 QBs in a 9 player keeper when one starts.good luck.

Ok I offered him Roy Williams or Jennings and his pick between Culter or Caddy for Brees and told me he did not think this was enough for Brees. Should I try to offer Turner instead of one of the 2 WR's or do you think I could offer Turner and either Williams or Jennung for Romo. Also, he told me with his team that he would get both QB's if he could not trade one of them. I know I am heavy at WR but one of the strange things about this league is your points for a player on bye is carryovers to there bye week. So if a player scores 20 points in week 7 and has a bye in week 8 then he gets 20 points for week 8. So I only really need extra players for injuries or if one of my players has a bad week before their bye week. Would this rule make any difference with this either of these trades.

I think you offered a ton. I would not pursue it more. I might look at acquiring Delhomme, or even Garrard on the cheap. If you cannot pull that off, I would look at getting the Alex Smith/Shaun Hill combo. Also, I like Matt Moore, K Warner, and Losman as chances for upside. I think at this point you try to find some upside guys. If worried about the short term, look for Kitna or Garcia.

OK I am done with him unless he offers something close to what I offered or takes my first trade. Do you think any of those QB's are better then Culter or are you talking about drafting one as a backup to Culter.

I was thinking as QB depth .. especially cheap depth.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

7 player keeper league, 10 teams, standard scoring with all TD's 6 points even for QB's & no PPR.Starting lineup 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB, WR, or TE)Would you trade either the 2.03 or 2.04 for Harrison, he would become my third WR instead of Cotch or do you like Cotch better then Harrison. I might be able to pick Cotch back up with either the 2.03 or 2.04 since last year I drafted him at the end of the 2nd round.Update on my keepers. Hasselbeck, R. Brown, J. Addai, J. Lewis, R. Moss, S. Smith, Cotch.I have the 1.02 pick in the 2008 draft plus I will have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009.

I would keep Cotch and the pick. Harrison is a huge question mark.

 

[Packers4ever]

Hey Jeff,

Here is another one I have already turned this trade down but wanted to know what you think because the other owner thinks I am crazy for turning it down and countering with what I did.

14 team dynasty league, standard scoring no PPR, starting lineup 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex(RB, WR or TE).

My roster

QB's McNabb, Garcia, Croyle

RB's McGahee, S. Jackson, Portis, Irons

WR's Wayne, Bowe, J. Walker, Galloway, Stokley

TE's Winslow, V. Davis

I do not have a 1st round pick this year but have 2.03 & 2.08 picks this year.

trade I get 1.09 and 2.11 this year for my 1st in 2009 and 2.03 this year. My 2009 pick with be somewhere between 1.08-1.12 I am thinking. So I countered with my 2009 1st and 2.08 for his 1.09 and 2.11.

So do you think I would be giving up to much if I accept his offer or would it be about even I know it is hard to judge the 2009 pick which I always hate to trade because you don't know where it will be. Like last year Bowe was still out there at 2.01 so I trade my 2008 1st round to pick him thinking that my 2009 pick would be at the bottom of the first round and it ended up being a 1.06 pick.

By the way I would be looking at Rice or Ryan at the 1.09 pick if I trade for it but I think if I stayed at 2.03 I would have a shot at Flacco, Thomas, or Hardy. This league drafts RB's early and often it seems like and will pass on top QB's and WR's . I think the first 10 picks could be RB's.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Hey Jeff,Here is another one I have already turned this trade down but wanted to know what you think because the other owner thinks I am crazy for turning it down and countering with what I did.14 team dynasty league, standard scoring no PPR, starting lineup 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex(RB, WR or TE).My rosterQB's McNabb, Garcia, CroyleRB's McGahee, S. Jackson, Portis, IronsWR's Wayne, Bowe, J. Walker, Galloway, StokleyTE's Winslow, V. DavisI do not have a 1st round pick this year but have 2.03 & 2.08 picks this year.trade I get 1.09 and 2.11 this year for my 1st in 2009 and 2.03 this year. My 2009 pick with be somewhere between 1.08-1.12 I am thinking. So I countered with my 2009 1st and 2.08 for his 1.09 and 2.11.So do you think I would be giving up to much if I accept his offer or would it be about even I know it is hard to judge the 2009 pick which I always hate to trade because you don't know where it will be. Like last year Bowe was still out there at 2.01 so I trade my 2008 1st round to pick him thinking that my 2009 pick would be at the bottom of the first round and it ended up being a 1.06 pick.By the way I would be looking at Rice or Ryan at the 1.09 pick if I trade for it but I think if I stayed at 2.03 I would have a shot at Flacco, Thomas, or Hardy. This league drafts RB's early and often it seems like and will pass on top QB's and WR's . I think the first 10 picks could be RB's.

I see very little difference between pick 1.09 and 2.03. This is a year that is very deep. I think I would hold off on the deal and keep the 2nd rounders. In many leagues, similar players are available in 2nd round as end of first. I like the wrs in early 2nd like Sweed and Earl Bennett. You have a good team and could make a serious run. Stock up on 2nd round wrs.

 

[Yitbos69]

Jeff,

When you get a chance I would like you Opinion

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...399246&st=0

 

[Packers4ever]

7 player keeper league, 10 teams, standard scoring with all TD's 6 points even for QB's & no PPR.Starting lineup 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB, WR, or TE)Would you trade either the 2.03 or 2.04 for Harrison, he would become my third WR instead of Cotch or do you like Cotch better then Harrison. I might be able to pick Cotch back up with either the 2.03 or 2.04 since last year I drafted him at the end of the 2nd round.Update on my keepers. Hasselbeck, R. Brown, J. Addai, J. Lewis, R. Moss, S. Smith, Cotch.I have the 1.02 pick in the 2008 draft plus I will have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009.

I would keep Cotch and the pick. Harrison is a huge question mark.

Do you like Santonio Holmes better then Cotch and would what would you give up for him, the other team is looking for draft picks. Do you think giving up my 2.04 and either a 2nd or 3rd rounder next year would be to much. I have 2 1st, 2nd & 3rd round picks next year. This trade has already been rejected by the league (Holmes for 2.02 and 4.02) eventhrough I thought it was pretty even.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

7 player keeper league, 10 teams, standard scoring with all TD's 6 points even for QB's & no PPR.Starting lineup 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB, WR, or TE)Would you trade either the 2.03 or 2.04 for Harrison, he would become my third WR instead of Cotch or do you like Cotch better then Harrison. I might be able to pick Cotch back up with either the 2.03 or 2.04 since last year I drafted him at the end of the 2nd round.Update on my keepers. Hasselbeck, R. Brown, J. Addai, J. Lewis, R. Moss, S. Smith, Cotch.I have the 1.02 pick in the 2008 draft plus I will have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009.

I would keep Cotch and the pick. Harrison is a huge question mark.

Do you like Santonio Holmes better then Cotch and would what would you give up for him, the other team is looking for draft picks. Do you think giving up my 2.04 and either a 2nd or 3rd rounder next year would be to much. I have 2 1st, 2nd & 3rd round picks next year. This trade has already been rejected by the league (Holmes for 2.02 and 4.02) eventhrough I thought it was pretty even.

I would hold pat. The loss of the picks is not worth the upgrade. There should be a very good player in 2nd round of the draft.

 

[Rodeojones]

Hey Jeff,

I posted the following in the Pool but have not received any responses. I would greatly appreciate your thoughts.

An owner and I have begun discussing a trade involving Steven Jackson in a MOX HP League (RBs = 0PPR, WR's = 1PPR, TE's=2PPR).

After reviewing 2007 stats, I have come to the conclusion that RB's values are inflated since only 2 RB's scored in the top 30 league wide. When entering our league scoring into the new "FBG Projections", SJax is #27.

The other owner while he does not dispute the stats, makes a good point that everyone must start 2 RB's thus the scoring system should not lower their value drastically.

Should HP scoring systems lower RB's values or does conventional FF wisdom still apply here??

Thanks Jeff.

RJ

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Hey Jeff,

I posted the following in the Pool but have not received any responses. I would greatly appreciate your thoughts.

An owner and I have begun discussing a trade involving Steven Jackson in a MOX HP League (RBs = 0PPR, WR's = 1PPR, TE's=2PPR).

After reviewing 2007 stats, I have come to the conclusion that RB's values are inflated since only 2 RB's scored in the top 30 league wide. When entering our league scoring into the new "FBG Projections", SJax is #27.

The other owner while he does not dispute the stats, makes a good point that everyone must start 2 RB's thus the scoring system should not lower their value drastically.

Should HP scoring systems lower RB's values or does conventional FF wisdom still apply here??

Thanks Jeff.

RJ

Hey, I think what happens is that the scoring makes a wider divide between the elite RBs and those that are middle of the pack. When the Draft Dominator comes out (hopefully this week) it will be easier for me to see how things look. I am a huge SJax fan, but non-ppr hurts him. I think you would be better served having great wr/tes and rbs like jamal lewis, graham, or even a guy like edge. The thing I would look at is how many points a game would SJax help you over one of these cheaper RBs. It would seem that even though the other owner's point looks good on the outside, the fact that none of them are elite compared to WRs is valid and the most important thing. This is what VBD is all about, comparing players across positions. The scarcity of RBs when you start two is something to look at, but there are several good RBs like Sammy Morris or Deuce/Pierre that should produce good RB2 numbers.

The scoring makes me believe that a team loaded at wr and te would dominate a rb-heavy team. For this reason, I would not overpay for SJax.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Hey Jeff,

I posted the following in the Pool but have not received any responses. I would greatly appreciate your thoughts.

An owner and I have begun discussing a trade involving Steven Jackson in a MOX HP League (RBs = 0PPR, WR's = 1PPR, TE's=2PPR).

After reviewing 2007 stats, I have come to the conclusion that RB's values are inflated since only 2 RB's scored in the top 30 league wide. When entering our league scoring into the new "FBG Projections", SJax is #27.

The other owner while he does not dispute the stats, makes a good point that everyone must start 2 RB's thus the scoring system should not lower their value drastically.

Should HP scoring systems lower RB's values or does conventional FF wisdom still apply here??

Thanks Jeff.

RJ

Hey, I think what happens is that the scoring makes a wider divide between the elite RBs and those that are middle of the pack. When the Draft Dominator comes out (hopefully this week) it will be easier for me to see how things look. I am a huge SJax fan, but non-ppr hurts him. I think you would be better served having great wr/tes and rbs like jamal lewis, graham, or even a guy like edge. The thing I would look at is how many points a game would SJax help you over one of these cheaper RBs. It would seem that even though the other owner's point looks good on the outside, the fact that none of them are elite compared to WRs is valid and the most important thing. This is what VBD is all about, comparing players across positions. The scarcity of RBs when you start two is something to look at, but there are several good RBs like Sammy Morris or Deuce/Pierre that should produce good RB2 numbers.

The scoring makes me believe that a team loaded at wr and te would dominate a rb-heavy team. For this reason, I would not overpay for SJax.

the draft dominator is up. It is using Dodds' projections. SJax projects as RB4, but 9th overall. That should tell you a lot. Ryan Grant, who is projected as RB12 (the lowest RB1), was only 42 points behind. But, the kicker is that he is listed as player 30 overall. It is much easier to gain a 2.5 points/game edge at the WR position.Hope this makes sense.

 

[Rodeojones]

Hey Jeff,

I posted the following in the Pool but have not received any responses. I would greatly appreciate your thoughts.

An owner and I have begun discussing a trade involving Steven Jackson in a MOX HP League (RBs = 0PPR, WR's = 1PPR, TE's=2PPR).

After reviewing 2007 stats, I have come to the conclusion that RB's values are inflated since only 2 RB's scored in the top 30 league wide. When entering our league scoring into the new "FBG Projections", SJax is #27.

The other owner while he does not dispute the stats, makes a good point that everyone must start 2 RB's thus the scoring system should not lower their value drastically.

Should HP scoring systems lower RB's values or does conventional FF wisdom still apply here??

Thanks Jeff.

RJ

Hey, I think what happens is that the scoring makes a wider divide between the elite RBs and those that are middle of the pack. When the Draft Dominator comes out (hopefully this week) it will be easier for me to see how things look. I am a huge SJax fan, but non-ppr hurts him. I think you would be better served having great wr/tes and rbs like jamal lewis, graham, or even a guy like edge. The thing I would look at is how many points a game would SJax help you over one of these cheaper RBs. It would seem that even though the other owner's point looks good on the outside, the fact that none of them are elite compared to WRs is valid and the most important thing. This is what VBD is all about, comparing players across positions. The scarcity of RBs when you start two is something to look at, but there are several good RBs like Sammy Morris or Deuce/Pierre that should produce good RB2 numbers.

The scoring makes me believe that a team loaded at wr and te would dominate a rb-heavy team. For this reason, I would not overpay for SJax.

the draft dominator is up. It is using Dodds' projections. SJax projects as RB4, but 9th overall. That should tell you a lot. Ryan Grant, who is projected as RB12 (the lowest RB1), was only 42 points behind. But, the kicker is that he is listed as player 30 overall. It is much easier to gain a 2.5 points/game edge at the WR position.Hope this makes sense.

Thanks Jeff.

 

[Packers4ever]

Hey Jeff,Here is another one I have already turned this trade down but wanted to know what you think because the other owner thinks I am crazy for turning it down and countering with what I did.14 team dynasty league, standard scoring no PPR, starting lineup 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex(RB, WR or TE).My rosterQB's McNabb, Garcia, CroyleRB's McGahee, S. Jackson, Portis, IronsWR's Wayne, Bowe, J. Walker, Galloway, StokleyTE's Winslow, V. DavisI do not have a 1st round pick this year but have 2.03 & 2.08 picks this year.trade I get 1.09 and 2.11 this year for my 1st in 2009 and 2.03 this year. My 2009 pick with be somewhere between 1.08-1.12 I am thinking. So I countered with my 2009 1st and 2.08 for his 1.09 and 2.11.So do you think I would be giving up to much if I accept his offer or would it be about even I know it is hard to judge the 2009 pick which I always hate to trade because you don't know where it will be. Like last year Bowe was still out there at 2.01 so I trade my 2008 1st round to pick him thinking that my 2009 pick would be at the bottom of the first round and it ended up being a 1.06 pick.By the way I would be looking at Rice or Ryan at the 1.09 pick if I trade for it but I think if I stayed at 2.03 I would have a shot at Flacco, Thomas, or Hardy. This league drafts RB's early and often it seems like and will pass on top QB's and WR's . I think the first 10 picks could be RB's.

I see very little difference between pick 1.09 and 2.03. This is a year that is very deep. I think I would hold off on the deal and keep the 2nd rounders. In many leagues, similar players are available in 2nd round as end of first. I like the wrs in early 2nd like Sweed and Earl Bennett. You have a good team and could make a serious run. Stock up on 2nd round wrs.

Looking at trading for Cotchery in this league do you think giving up either my 2.03 or 2.08 is too much and if so what is he worth or should I just stay with the 2 second round picks and pick the 2 best WR's in the draft.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Hey Jeff,Here is another one I have already turned this trade down but wanted to know what you think because the other owner thinks I am crazy for turning it down and countering with what I did.14 team dynasty league, standard scoring no PPR, starting lineup 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex(RB, WR or TE).My rosterQB's McNabb, Garcia, CroyleRB's McGahee, S. Jackson, Portis, IronsWR's Wayne, Bowe, J. Walker, Galloway, StokleyTE's Winslow, V. DavisI do not have a 1st round pick this year but have 2.03 & 2.08 picks this year.trade I get 1.09 and 2.11 this year for my 1st in 2009 and 2.03 this year. My 2009 pick with be somewhere between 1.08-1.12 I am thinking. So I countered with my 2009 1st and 2.08 for his 1.09 and 2.11.So do you think I would be giving up to much if I accept his offer or would it be about even I know it is hard to judge the 2009 pick which I always hate to trade because you don't know where it will be. Like last year Bowe was still out there at 2.01 so I trade my 2008 1st round to pick him thinking that my 2009 pick would be at the bottom of the first round and it ended up being a 1.06 pick.By the way I would be looking at Rice or Ryan at the 1.09 pick if I trade for it but I think if I stayed at 2.03 I would have a shot at Flacco, Thomas, or Hardy. This league drafts RB's early and often it seems like and will pass on top QB's and WR's . I think the first 10 picks could be RB's.

I see very little difference between pick 1.09 and 2.03. This is a year that is very deep. I think I would hold off on the deal and keep the 2nd rounders. In many leagues, similar players are available in 2nd round as end of first. I like the wrs in early 2nd like Sweed and Earl Bennett. You have a good team and could make a serious run. Stock up on 2nd round wrs.

Looking at trading for Cotchery in this league do you think giving up either my 2.03 or 2.08 is too much and if so what is he worth or should I just stay with the 2 second round picks and pick the 2 best WR's in the draft.

cotch is easily worth either of those picks. he is a young up and coming wr. i like him

 

[Packers4ever]

7 player keeper league, 10 teams, standard scoring with all TD's 6 points even for QB's & no PPR.Starting lineup 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB, WR, or TE)Would you trade either the 2.03 or 2.04 for Harrison, he would become my third WR instead of Cotch or do you like Cotch better then Harrison. I might be able to pick Cotch back up with either the 2.03 or 2.04 since last year I drafted him at the end of the 2nd round.Update on my keepers. Hasselbeck, R. Brown, J. Addai, J. Lewis, R. Moss, S. Smith, Cotch.I have the 1.02 pick in the 2008 draft plus I will have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009.

I would keep Cotch and the pick. Harrison is a huge question mark.

Another team is trying to trade Palmer in this league what would be a fair deal to get him. He has Big Ben as his other QB. My picks are 1.02, 2.03, & 2.04 and then I also have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009. This trade was just veto Palmer, 2.02 & 2.06 for Bulger & Holt. What picks would you offer for Palmer or should I just stay with Hasselbeck.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

7 player keeper league, 10 teams, standard scoring with all TD's 6 points even for QB's & no PPR.Starting lineup 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB, WR, or TE)Would you trade either the 2.03 or 2.04 for Harrison, he would become my third WR instead of Cotch or do you like Cotch better then Harrison. I might be able to pick Cotch back up with either the 2.03 or 2.04 since last year I drafted him at the end of the 2nd round.Update on my keepers. Hasselbeck, R. Brown, J. Addai, J. Lewis, R. Moss, S. Smith, Cotch.I have the 1.02 pick in the 2008 draft plus I will have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009.

I would keep Cotch and the pick. Harrison is a huge question mark.

Another team is trying to trade Palmer in this league what would be a fair deal to get him. He has Big Ben as his other QB. My picks are 1.02, 2.03, & 2.04 and then I also have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009. This trade was just veto Palmer, 2.02 & 2.06 for Bulger & Holt. What picks would you offer for Palmer or should I just stay with Hasselbeck.

I have to ask why that was vetoed. That deal seems pretty fair. I think I would start with an offer of Hass and 2.04 for Palmer. Hass outscored him in 2007 so no one should complain. I do like Palmer's upside much more than Hass.

 

[Packers4ever]

7 player keeper league, 10 teams, standard scoring with all TD's 6 points even for QB's & no PPR.Starting lineup 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB, WR, or TE)Would you trade either the 2.03 or 2.04 for Harrison, he would become my third WR instead of Cotch or do you like Cotch better then Harrison. I might be able to pick Cotch back up with either the 2.03 or 2.04 since last year I drafted him at the end of the 2nd round.Update on my keepers. Hasselbeck, R. Brown, J. Addai, J. Lewis, R. Moss, S. Smith, Cotch.I have the 1.02 pick in the 2008 draft plus I will have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009.

I would keep Cotch and the pick. Harrison is a huge question mark.

Another team is trying to trade Palmer in this league what would be a fair deal to get him. He has Big Ben as his other QB. My picks are 1.02, 2.03, & 2.04 and then I also have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009. This trade was just veto Palmer, 2.02 & 2.06 for Bulger & Holt. What picks would you offer for Palmer or should I just stay with Hasselbeck.

I have to ask why that was vetoed. That deal seems pretty fair. I think I would start with an offer of Hass and 2.04 for Palmer. Hass outscored him in 2007 so no one should complain. I do like Palmer's upside much more than Hass.

1 team said it was to too lop-sided for one of the teams but did not say which one and have not heard anything from the other teams that vetod the trade.I offered him Hass and my 2.04 but I don't think he will take it since he also has Big Ben as his other QB.

 

[Packers4ever]

12 team dynasty league start 1 QB, 2 RB's , 3 WR's & 1 TE Standard scoring & no PPR. Max position is 7 RB's and 8 WR's

This teams want to trade Gates and would want Heap in any trade.

His team

QB's T. Romo, A. Smith

RB's M. Bush, W. McGahee, AP Min, AP Chi, C. Taylor, Ricky Williams

WR's T. Owens, J. Cotchery, S. Holmes, D. Jackson, A. Johnson, B. Johnson, M. Kelly,

TE's A. Gates, T. Scheffler

My Team

QB's D. MaNabb, C. Pennington, B. Croyle, C. Henne

RB's M. Barber, D. McAllister, C. Brown, J. Norwood, L. White, A. Bradshaw, M. Forte, A. Hall, K. Watson

WR's P. Burress, B. Edwards, R. Wayne, J. Galloway

TE's T. Heap, R. McMichael.

What would you offer him for Gates that would include Heap in the trade?

Also on a smaller note he has offered me AP Chi and 2009 4th round pick for C. Brown and R. McMichael Which I will probably except.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I think this would be fair:

Gates and Mike Bush

for

Heap and LD White

 

[Packers4ever]

7 player keeper league, 10 teams, standard scoring with all TD's 6 points even for QB's & no PPR.Starting lineup 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB, WR, or TE)Would you trade either the 2.03 or 2.04 for Harrison, he would become my third WR instead of Cotch or do you like Cotch better then Harrison. I might be able to pick Cotch back up with either the 2.03 or 2.04 since last year I drafted him at the end of the 2nd round.Update on my keepers. Hasselbeck, R. Brown, J. Addai, J. Lewis, R. Moss, S. Smith, Cotch.I have the 1.02 pick in the 2008 draft plus I will have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009.

I would keep Cotch and the pick. Harrison is a huge question mark.

Another team is trying to trade Palmer in this league what would be a fair deal to get him. He has Big Ben as his other QB. My picks are 1.02, 2.03, & 2.04 and then I also have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009. This trade was just veto Palmer, 2.02 & 2.06 for Bulger & Holt. What picks would you offer for Palmer or should I just stay with Hasselbeck.

I have to ask why that was vetoed. That deal seems pretty fair. I think I would start with an offer of Hass and 2.04 for Palmer. Hass outscored him in 2007 so no one should complain. I do like Palmer's upside much more than Hass.

1 team said it was to too lop-sided for one of the teams but did not say which one and have not heard anything from the other teams that vetod the trade.I offered him Hass and my 2.04 but I don't think he will take it since he also has Big Ben as his other QB.

He wants to know what it would take to get Moss into the deal but don't think I want to trade Moss. The only WR's he has is Burress and Roy Williams. Would their be any trade to make with Moss?Here is his roster Big Ben, Palmer, B. Jacobs, Westbrook, Burress and Roy Williams.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

7 player keeper league, 10 teams, standard scoring with all TD's 6 points even for QB's & no PPR.Starting lineup 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB, WR, or TE)Would you trade either the 2.03 or 2.04 for Harrison, he would become my third WR instead of Cotch or do you like Cotch better then Harrison. I might be able to pick Cotch back up with either the 2.03 or 2.04 since last year I drafted him at the end of the 2nd round.Update on my keepers. Hasselbeck, R. Brown, J. Addai, J. Lewis, R. Moss, S. Smith, Cotch.I have the 1.02 pick in the 2008 draft plus I will have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009.

I would keep Cotch and the pick. Harrison is a huge question mark.

Another team is trying to trade Palmer in this league what would be a fair deal to get him. He has Big Ben as his other QB. My picks are 1.02, 2.03, & 2.04 and then I also have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009. This trade was just veto Palmer, 2.02 & 2.06 for Bulger & Holt. What picks would you offer for Palmer or should I just stay with Hasselbeck.

I have to ask why that was vetoed. That deal seems pretty fair. I think I would start with an offer of Hass and 2.04 for Palmer. Hass outscored him in 2007 so no one should complain. I do like Palmer's upside much more than Hass.

1 team said it was to too lop-sided for one of the teams but did not say which one and have not heard anything from the other teams that vetod the trade.I offered him Hass and my 2.04 but I don't think he will take it since he also has Big Ben as his other QB.

He wants to know what it would take to get Moss into the deal but don't think I want to trade Moss. The only WR's he has is Burress and Roy Williams. Would their be any trade to make with Moss?Here is his roster Big Ben, Palmer, B. Jacobs, Westbrook, Burress and Roy Williams.

i would not be trading Moss unless I got a top wr back .. and those two are from a top wr

 

[Packers4ever]

7 player keeper league, 10 teams, standard scoring with all TD's 6 points even for QB's & no PPR.Starting lineup 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB, WR, or TE)Would you trade either the 2.03 or 2.04 for Harrison, he would become my third WR instead of Cotch or do you like Cotch better then Harrison. I might be able to pick Cotch back up with either the 2.03 or 2.04 since last year I drafted him at the end of the 2nd round.Update on my keepers. Hasselbeck, R. Brown, J. Addai, J. Lewis, R. Moss, S. Smith, Cotch.I have the 1.02 pick in the 2008 draft plus I will have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009.

I would keep Cotch and the pick. Harrison is a huge question mark.

Another team is trying to trade Palmer in this league what would be a fair deal to get him. He has Big Ben as his other QB. My picks are 1.02, 2.03, & 2.04 and then I also have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009. This trade was just veto Palmer, 2.02 & 2.06 for Bulger & Holt. What picks would you offer for Palmer or should I just stay with Hasselbeck.

I have to ask why that was vetoed. That deal seems pretty fair. I think I would start with an offer of Hass and 2.04 for Palmer. Hass outscored him in 2007 so no one should complain. I do like Palmer's upside much more than Hass.

1 team said it was to too lop-sided for one of the teams but did not say which one and have not heard anything from the other teams that vetod the trade.I offered him Hass and my 2.04 but I don't think he will take it since he also has Big Ben as his other QB.

He turned it down. Would you offer him 1 of my 2009 1st instead of the 2.04 or just stay with Hasselback. My 2009 1st would probably between 1.08-1.10.Thanks for all your help.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

7 player keeper league, 10 teams, standard scoring with all TD's 6 points even for QB's & no PPR.Starting lineup 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB, WR, or TE)Would you trade either the 2.03 or 2.04 for Harrison, he would become my third WR instead of Cotch or do you like Cotch better then Harrison. I might be able to pick Cotch back up with either the 2.03 or 2.04 since last year I drafted him at the end of the 2nd round.Update on my keepers. Hasselbeck, R. Brown, J. Addai, J. Lewis, R. Moss, S. Smith, Cotch.I have the 1.02 pick in the 2008 draft plus I will have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009.

I would keep Cotch and the pick. Harrison is a huge question mark.

Another team is trying to trade Palmer in this league what would be a fair deal to get him. He has Big Ben as his other QB. My picks are 1.02, 2.03, & 2.04 and then I also have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009. This trade was just veto Palmer, 2.02 & 2.06 for Bulger & Holt. What picks would you offer for Palmer or should I just stay with Hasselbeck.

I have to ask why that was vetoed. That deal seems pretty fair. I think I would start with an offer of Hass and 2.04 for Palmer. Hass outscored him in 2007 so no one should complain. I do like Palmer's upside much more than Hass.

1 team said it was to too lop-sided for one of the teams but did not say which one and have not heard anything from the other teams that vetod the trade.I offered him Hass and my 2.04 but I don't think he will take it since he also has Big Ben as his other QB.

He turned it down. Would you offer him 1 of my 2009 1st instead of the 2.04 or just stay with Hasselback. My 2009 1st would probably between 1.08-1.10.Thanks for all your help.

I might start with hass and the 1st for palmer and the 2nd

 

[valhallan]

Hey Jeff,

I own AP and have been trying to secure CTaylor. What do you think of the following deal:

I give: TJones, Berrian, S.Holmes

I get: CTaylor, VJackson, Chad Johnson

I'm definitely giving up a lot of youth with Holmes for CJ, but I feel like the deal is pretty even on paper and Chester will provide nice insurance for AP.

(Dynasty PPR, 1/10 rush/rec, 6 pt TDs)

Thanks

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Hey Jeff, I own AP and have been trying to secure CTaylor. What do you think of the following deal:I give: TJones, Berrian, S.HolmesI get: CTaylor, VJackson, Chad JohnsonI'm definitely giving up a lot of youth with Holmes for CJ, but I feel like the deal is pretty even on paper and Chester will provide nice insurance for AP.(Dynasty PPR, 1/10 rush/rec, 6 pt TDs)Thanks

I like it and think it is pretty even. Honestly, I think the two RBs are real close, but I prefer your side of the deal. Chad is a legit top ten wr while many "project" Holmes to that level. Berrian and VJax are not a big part of the deal. Chester is a guy I am trying to buy low enough in dynasty leagues. In the 3-4(guess) games that AP might miss, Taylor is a legit RB1 for fantasy.

 

[Packers4ever]

7 player keeper league, 10 teams, standard scoring with all TD's 6 points even for QB's & no PPR.Starting lineup 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB, WR, or TE)Would you trade either the 2.03 or 2.04 for Harrison, he would become my third WR instead of Cotch or do you like Cotch better then Harrison. I might be able to pick Cotch back up with either the 2.03 or 2.04 since last year I drafted him at the end of the 2nd round.Update on my keepers. Hasselbeck, R. Brown, J. Addai, J. Lewis, R. Moss, S. Smith, Cotch.I have the 1.02 pick in the 2008 draft plus I will have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009.

I would keep Cotch and the pick. Harrison is a huge question mark.

Another team is trying to trade Palmer in this league what would be a fair deal to get him. He has Big Ben as his other QB. My picks are 1.02, 2.03, & 2.04 and then I also have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009. This trade was just veto Palmer, 2.02 & 2.06 for Bulger & Holt. What picks would you offer for Palmer or should I just stay with Hasselbeck.

I have to ask why that was vetoed. That deal seems pretty fair. I think I would start with an offer of Hass and 2.04 for Palmer. Hass outscored him in 2007 so no one should complain. I do like Palmer's upside much more than Hass.

1 team said it was to too lop-sided for one of the teams but did not say which one and have not heard anything from the other teams that vetod the trade.I offered him Hass and my 2.04 but I don't think he will take it since he also has Big Ben as his other QB.

He turned it down. Would you offer him 1 of my 2009 1st instead of the 2.04 or just stay with Hasselback. My 2009 1st would probably between 1.08-1.10.Thanks for all your help.

I might start with hass and the 1st for palmer and the 2nd

Would you trade the 1.02 for Fitz or is he worth alot more then the 1.02 if so would Cotch even it out or do I stay with 1.02 and draft Stewart or Mendenhall.Another trade A. Johnson & Winslow for R. Brown & Cotch or do I not trade away the RB. Would I have to throw in a 1st or 2nd round pick next year. I would only do this if I did not do the above trade.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

7 player keeper league, 10 teams, standard scoring with all TD's 6 points even for QB's & no PPR.Starting lineup 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB, WR, or TE)Would you trade either the 2.03 or 2.04 for Harrison, he would become my third WR instead of Cotch or do you like Cotch better then Harrison. I might be able to pick Cotch back up with either the 2.03 or 2.04 since last year I drafted him at the end of the 2nd round.Update on my keepers. Hasselbeck, R. Brown, J. Addai, J. Lewis, R. Moss, S. Smith, Cotch.I have the 1.02 pick in the 2008 draft plus I will have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009.

I would keep Cotch and the pick. Harrison is a huge question mark.

Another team is trying to trade Palmer in this league what would be a fair deal to get him. He has Big Ben as his other QB. My picks are 1.02, 2.03, & 2.04 and then I also have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009. This trade was just veto Palmer, 2.02 & 2.06 for Bulger & Holt. What picks would you offer for Palmer or should I just stay with Hasselbeck.

I have to ask why that was vetoed. That deal seems pretty fair. I think I would start with an offer of Hass and 2.04 for Palmer. Hass outscored him in 2007 so no one should complain. I do like Palmer's upside much more than Hass.

1 team said it was to too lop-sided for one of the teams but did not say which one and have not heard anything from the other teams that vetod the trade.I offered him Hass and my 2.04 but I don't think he will take it since he also has Big Ben as his other QB.

He turned it down. Would you offer him 1 of my 2009 1st instead of the 2.04 or just stay with Hasselback. My 2009 1st would probably between 1.08-1.10.Thanks for all your help.

I might start with hass and the 1st for palmer and the 2nd

Would you trade the 1.02 for Fitz or is he worth alot more then the 1.02 if so would Cotch even it out or do I stay with 1.02 and draft Stewart or Mendenhall.Another trade A. Johnson & Winslow for R. Brown & Cotch or do I not trade away the RB. Would I have to throw in a 1st or 2nd round pick next year. I would only do this if I did not do the above trade.

I would gladly trade the 1.02 for Fitz and I think it is close to fair. I would not add Cotch to the mix unless I was getting a decent pick in return.It seems many are down on Brown so you might be left hanging on to him until he gets 100%.

 

[Packers4ever]

7 player keeper league, 10 teams, standard scoring with all TD's 6 points even for QB's & no PPR.Starting lineup 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB, WR, or TE)Would you trade either the 2.03 or 2.04 for Harrison, he would become my third WR instead of Cotch or do you like Cotch better then Harrison. I might be able to pick Cotch back up with either the 2.03 or 2.04 since last year I drafted him at the end of the 2nd round.Update on my keepers. Hasselbeck, R. Brown, J. Addai, J. Lewis, R. Moss, S. Smith, Cotch.I have the 1.02 pick in the 2008 draft plus I will have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009.

I would keep Cotch and the pick. Harrison is a huge question mark.

Another team is trying to trade Palmer in this league what would be a fair deal to get him. He has Big Ben as his other QB. My picks are 1.02, 2.03, & 2.04 and then I also have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009. This trade was just veto Palmer, 2.02 & 2.06 for Bulger & Holt. What picks would you offer for Palmer or should I just stay with Hasselbeck.

I have to ask why that was vetoed. That deal seems pretty fair. I think I would start with an offer of Hass and 2.04 for Palmer. Hass outscored him in 2007 so no one should complain. I do like Palmer's upside much more than Hass.

1 team said it was to too lop-sided for one of the teams but did not say which one and have not heard anything from the other teams that vetod the trade.I offered him Hass and my 2.04 but I don't think he will take it since he also has Big Ben as his other QB.

He turned it down. Would you offer him 1 of my 2009 1st instead of the 2.04 or just stay with Hasselback. My 2009 1st would probably between 1.08-1.10.Thanks for all your help.

I might start with hass and the 1st for palmer and the 2nd

Would you trade the 1.02 for Fitz or is he worth alot more then the 1.02 if so would Cotch even it out or do I stay with 1.02 and draft Stewart or Mendenhall.Another trade A. Johnson & Winslow for R. Brown & Cotch or do I not trade away the RB. Would I have to throw in a 1st or 2nd round pick next year. I would only do this if I did not do the above trade.

I would gladly trade the 1.02 for Fitz and I think it is close to fair. I would not add Cotch to the mix unless I was getting a decent pick in return.It seems many are down on Brown so you might be left hanging on to him until he gets 100%.

He countered with CJ & 2.09 for 1.02 & 2.04 think I will probably turn it down. Said he did not want to trade Fitz.The another trade with A. Johnson & Winslow for R. Brown & Cotch would be a counter to his offer of Winslow and his 2009 1st for R. Brown. If I took his offer I would have 3 1st picks next but I don't think I could let Brown go for that Althrough his pick was a 1.03 this year.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

7 player keeper league, 10 teams, standard scoring with all TD's 6 points even for QB's & no PPR.Starting lineup 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB, WR, or TE)Would you trade either the 2.03 or 2.04 for Harrison, he would become my third WR instead of Cotch or do you like Cotch better then Harrison. I might be able to pick Cotch back up with either the 2.03 or 2.04 since last year I drafted him at the end of the 2nd round.Update on my keepers. Hasselbeck, R. Brown, J. Addai, J. Lewis, R. Moss, S. Smith, Cotch.I have the 1.02 pick in the 2008 draft plus I will have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009.

I would keep Cotch and the pick. Harrison is a huge question mark.

Another team is trying to trade Palmer in this league what would be a fair deal to get him. He has Big Ben as his other QB. My picks are 1.02, 2.03, & 2.04 and then I also have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009. This trade was just veto Palmer, 2.02 & 2.06 for Bulger & Holt. What picks would you offer for Palmer or should I just stay with Hasselbeck.

I have to ask why that was vetoed. That deal seems pretty fair. I think I would start with an offer of Hass and 2.04 for Palmer. Hass outscored him in 2007 so no one should complain. I do like Palmer's upside much more than Hass.

1 team said it was to too lop-sided for one of the teams but did not say which one and have not heard anything from the other teams that vetod the trade.I offered him Hass and my 2.04 but I don't think he will take it since he also has Big Ben as his other QB.

He turned it down. Would you offer him 1 of my 2009 1st instead of the 2.04 or just stay with Hasselback. My 2009 1st would probably between 1.08-1.10.Thanks for all your help.

I might start with hass and the 1st for palmer and the 2nd

Would you trade the 1.02 for Fitz or is he worth alot more then the 1.02 if so would Cotch even it out or do I stay with 1.02 and draft Stewart or Mendenhall.Another trade A. Johnson & Winslow for R. Brown & Cotch or do I not trade away the RB. Would I have to throw in a 1st or 2nd round pick next year. I would only do this if I did not do the above trade.

I would gladly trade the 1.02 for Fitz and I think it is close to fair. I would not add Cotch to the mix unless I was getting a decent pick in return.It seems many are down on Brown so you might be left hanging on to him until he gets 100%.

He countered with CJ & 2.09 for 1.02 & 2.04 think I will probably turn it down. Said he did not want to trade Fitz.The another trade with A. Johnson & Winslow for R. Brown & Cotch would be a counter to his offer of Winslow and his 2009 1st for R. Brown. If I took his offer I would have 3 1st picks next but I don't think I could let Brown go for that Althrough his pick was a 1.03 this year.

pass easily on the CJ offer.I think Brown will be worth a lot more in a couple of months. When he is healthy, you can point to the start Brown had last yr. I would hold Brown for now and I am not a Ricky fan. Just hype of an aging rb.

 

[Packers4ever]

7 player keeper league, 10 teams, standard scoring with all TD's 6 points even for QB's & no PPR.Starting lineup 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB, WR, or TE)Would you trade either the 2.03 or 2.04 for Harrison, he would become my third WR instead of Cotch or do you like Cotch better then Harrison. I might be able to pick Cotch back up with either the 2.03 or 2.04 since last year I drafted him at the end of the 2nd round.Update on my keepers. Hasselbeck, R. Brown, J. Addai, J. Lewis, R. Moss, S. Smith, Cotch.I have the 1.02 pick in the 2008 draft plus I will have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009.

I would keep Cotch and the pick. Harrison is a huge question mark.

Another team is trying to trade Palmer in this league what would be a fair deal to get him. He has Big Ben as his other QB. My picks are 1.02, 2.03, & 2.04 and then I also have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009. This trade was just veto Palmer, 2.02 & 2.06 for Bulger & Holt. What picks would you offer for Palmer or should I just stay with Hasselbeck.

I have to ask why that was vetoed. That deal seems pretty fair. I think I would start with an offer of Hass and 2.04 for Palmer. Hass outscored him in 2007 so no one should complain. I do like Palmer's upside much more than Hass.

1 team said it was to too lop-sided for one of the teams but did not say which one and have not heard anything from the other teams that vetod the trade.I offered him Hass and my 2.04 but I don't think he will take it since he also has Big Ben as his other QB.

He turned it down. Would you offer him 1 of my 2009 1st instead of the 2.04 or just stay with Hasselback. My 2009 1st would probably between 1.08-1.10.Thanks for all your help.

I might start with hass and the 1st for palmer and the 2nd

Would you trade the 1.02 for Fitz or is he worth alot more then the 1.02 if so would Cotch even it out or do I stay with 1.02 and draft Stewart or Mendenhall.Another trade A. Johnson & Winslow for R. Brown & Cotch or do I not trade away the RB. Would I have to throw in a 1st or 2nd round pick next year. I would only do this if I did not do the above trade.

I would gladly trade the 1.02 for Fitz and I think it is close to fair. I would not add Cotch to the mix unless I was getting a decent pick in return.It seems many are down on Brown so you might be left hanging on to him until he gets 100%.

He countered with CJ & 2.09 for 1.02 & 2.04 think I will probably turn it down. Said he did not want to trade Fitz.The another trade with A. Johnson & Winslow for R. Brown & Cotch would be a counter to his offer of Winslow and his 2009 1st for R. Brown. If I took his offer I would have 3 1st picks next but I don't think I could let Brown go for that Althrough his pick was a 1.03 this year.

Now it is CJ for my 2.03 & 2.04, I don't know if I like this one either maybe if I offer my 2008 2.04 and 2009 2nd which would be towards the end of the round. Do you like that trade. Or do I just keep Cotch as my 3rd WR, if I do this draft I can trade Cotch for a 2nd round pick.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Now it is CJ for my 2.03 & 2.04, I don't know if I like this one either maybe if I offer my 2008 2.04 and 2009 2nd which would be towards the end of the round. Do you like that trade. Or do I just keep Cotch as my 3rd WR, if I do this draft I can trade Cotch for a 2nd round pick.

That would be a great offer in a dynasty league, but since you have to drop Cotch, i would pass. Cotch will surprise this year.If you think you can trade Cotch for a 2nd, I would do the deal for CJ. But, I do like Cotch this year. He is still young and improving.

 

[Packers4ever]

Another trade question in this league seems like everyone wants my players.

7 player keeper league, 10 teams, standard scoring with all TD's 6 points even for QB's & no PPR.

Starting lineup 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB, WR, or TE)

My keepers.

Hasselbeck, R. Brown, J. Addai, J. Lewis, R. Moss, S. Smith, Cotch.

I have the 1.02 pick in the 2008 draft plus I will have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009.

His Keepers

T. Romo, M. Barber, LJ, F. Gore, J. Walker, M. Colston, C. Cooley.

He offered S. Smith & 1.02 for M. Barber III or do you like any other trade with this team.

At first I throught no way but I really don't know after looking at the rankings.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Another trade question in this league seems like everyone wants my players.7 player keeper league, 10 teams, standard scoring with all TD's 6 points even for QB's & no PPR.Starting lineup 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB, WR, or TE)My keepers. Hasselbeck, R. Brown, J. Addai, J. Lewis, R. Moss, S. Smith, Cotch.I have the 1.02 pick in the 2008 draft plus I will have 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks in 2009.His KeepersT. Romo, M. Barber, LJ, F. Gore, J. Walker, M. Colston, C. Cooley.He offered S. Smith & 1.02 for M. Barber III or do you like any other trade with this team.At first I thought no way but I really don't know after looking at the rankings.

I do not like it for you at all. Your WRs are good and would take a step back. Upgrading starting rb from Brown or Lewis to MB3 is not enough to offset the drop at RW and loss of the pick.

 

[Gottabesweet]

Looking at my roster, what would you try to do this off-season or in the upcoming draft with my picks. I'm not set at backup QB or RB depth and TE. Just take a look and tell me what you'd try to do thanks!

12 team Dynasty

Start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE) 1K 1DST

No limit on bench spots (Most have 60 guys)

(Standard 6pt per td's, 1pt per 25 passing, 1pt per 10 rush/rec, PPR)

Draft Picks (1.2, 1.3, 2.2, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12, 6.12)

QB - Peyton Manning, Matt Leinart, Kurt Warner, Jim Sorgi, Kevin Kolb, Patrick Ramsey, Drew Stanton

RB - LT, Addai, Lynch, Fred Jackson, D. Sproles,

(Bunch of Junk)

Avaion Cason

Craig Davis

Cecil Sapp

Cory Ross

Gilbert Harris

Justin Vincent

Shaud Williams

Alanzo Coleman

Danny Ware

Gary Russell

Jackie Battle

Kenneth Darby

Tony Hunt

WR'S - Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, Jerricho Cotchery, Lee Evans, Sidney Rice, Laurant Robinson, Roscoe Parrish, Yamon Figues, Devard Darling, Brad Smith,

(More Junk)

Chris Davis

Glenn Martinez

Hank Baskett

Issah Stanback

J ason Avant

Peerless Price

Ruvell Martin

Ryne Robinson

Sam Aiken

David Ball

TE- Winslow, V. Davis, Boss, Rosario,Celek,Fletcher,

K - Graham, Nugent, Gostokowski

DST - Chargers, Seahawks, Texans

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I think your QBs are fine. I would not sweat having the Cards' pair as the backup. I also like Kolb more than most. And Stanton is a decent prospect. I might look to add Orlovsky, too, if available. I would grab Matt Moore, Shaun Hill, Tyler Thigpen, and Sage Rosenfels if available on waivers.

RB depth will be addressed in the draft I assume. 1.02/1.03 will add two young prospects. That will leave you in good shape. The two players I would look to add are Dom Rhodes, if he is available on the waiver and Mike Hart in the 3rd round of the draft. I do not like any of the "junk" RBs.

Your WRs look good. I would look to take one at 2.02 in a PPR league. I like Stanbeck of your "junk" guys. Might see if Sam Hurd is available, too. Some of the WRs available late in drafts I like are Will Franklin, Andre Caldwell, and Jerome Simpson.

You have a good team. I might look to upgrade the bottom of the roster if possible. Two sleeper TEs I like are Milner and the rookie Carlson.

Hope this helps.

 

[dmac37]

Jeff,

Who is more valuable in a dynasty right now:

Cedric Benson or Javon Walker

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Jeff,Who is more valuable in a dynasty right now:Cedric Benson or Javon Walker

Walker. He is on a team. No one seems to want Benson, yet.

 

[Packers4ever]

This is a 9 player keeper league or you can keep your whole team but then you do not get to be in the draft. My pick is 1.05. Starters are 1 QB, 2RB's, 3 WR's & 1 TE. Standard scoring with no PPR and QB's only get 4 pts/TD. 10 teams

My players

QB's J. Cutler, V. Young,

RB's F. Gore, W. McGahee, M. Turner, Caddy & K. Jones

WR's A. Boldin, G. Jennings, S. Moss, S. Smith(Car), R. Williams,

TE's Winslow

Keepers are in bold.

His keepers Big Ben, ADP, R. Bush, Cotch & L. Evens the other ones I have no idea since the rest of his team is bad.

The team with the 1.02 wants to trade but what should I offer him, he needs WR's and I have a lot of them.

Would like to try and keep my 1.05.

Any ideas?

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I think my first offer would be Santana and the 1.05 for the 1.02. Maybe throw in KJ and maybe Caddy. I think there is a huge difference between 1.02 and 1.05.

 

[Packers4ever]

I think my first offer would be Santana and the 1.05 for the 1.02. Maybe throw in KJ and maybe Caddy. I think there is a huge difference between 1.02 and 1.05.

He is asking for S. Smith and 1.05 for 1.02 and L. Evans. I don't think I will take this since I do not really need RB's.What would you say about something like Roy Williams and 1.05 for 1.02 and Cotch?