Warrick Dunn returns to practice (1 Viewer)

[whodeywhodey]

per rotoworld:

Warrick Dunn returned to practice on Monday, only three weeks after undergoing back surgery.

Dunn practiced with the second team and participated in all drills. It appears that he’ll be ready to share carries with Jerious Norwood by Week 1.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

bump down Jason Snelling ?

 

[dlos]

Any chance he just went back to retire?

:norwoodowner:

 

[laughinboy_2000]

per rotoworld:Warrick Dunn returned to practice on Monday, only three weeks after undergoing back surgery.Dunn practiced with the second team and participated in all drills. It appears that he’ll be ready to share carries with Jerious Norwood by Week 1.

Already back from surgery? 3 Weeks? Wow.

 

[Ned]

lb for lb one of the best football players.

 

[Garts]

per rotoworld:Warrick Dunn returned to practice on Monday, only three weeks after undergoing back surgery.Dunn practiced with the second team and participated in all drills. It appears that he’ll be ready to share carries with Jerious Norwood by Week 1.

Already back from surgery? 3 Weeks? Wow.

must be scared of losing his starting spot...

 

[hephner]

per rotoworld:Warrick Dunn returned to practice on Monday, only three weeks after undergoing back surgery.Dunn practiced with the second team and participated in all drills. It appears that he’ll be ready to share carries with Jerious Norwood by Week 1.

Already back from surgery? 3 Weeks? Wow.

must be scared of losing his starting spot...

I think he already lost that. He'll be a third-down/change-of-pace back now, when healthy.If he's fully recovered and stays healthy, I see a split of somewhere between 60-40 to 70-30 in favor of Norwood.

 

[AnonymousBob]

per rotoworld:Warrick Dunn returned to practice on Monday, only three weeks after undergoing back surgery.Dunn practiced with the second team and participated in all drills. It appears that he’ll be ready to share carries with Jerious Norwood by Week 1.

Already back from surgery? 3 Weeks? Wow.

must be scared of losing his starting spot...

I think he already lost that. He'll be a third-down/change-of-pace back now, when healthy.If he's fully recovered and stays healthy, I see a split of somewhere between 60-40 to 70-30 in favor of Norwood.

Why?

 

[zadok]

per rotoworld:Warrick Dunn returned to practice on Monday, only three weeks after undergoing back surgery.Dunn practiced with the second team and participated in all drills. It appears that he’ll be ready to share carries with Jerious Norwood by Week 1.

Already back from surgery? 3 Weeks? Wow.

must be scared of losing his starting spot...

I think he already lost that. He'll be a third-down/change-of-pace back now, when healthy.If he's fully recovered and stays healthy, I see a split of somewhere between 60-40 to 70-30 in favor of Norwood.

Why?

Because Norwood is bigger, stronger, faster, is more explosive, etc?

 

[AnonymousBob]

per rotoworld:Warrick Dunn returned to practice on Monday, only three weeks after undergoing back surgery.Dunn practiced with the second team and participated in all drills. It appears that he’ll be ready to share carries with Jerious Norwood by Week 1.

Already back from surgery? 3 Weeks? Wow.

must be scared of losing his starting spot...

I think he already lost that. He'll be a third-down/change-of-pace back now, when healthy.If he's fully recovered and stays healthy, I see a split of somewhere between 60-40 to 70-30 in favor of Norwood.

Why?

Because Norwood is bigger, stronger, faster, is more explosive, etc?

A lot of players have looked damned good as a backup.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

This makes Jerious Norwood look even more overvalued and Warrick Dunn look even more undervalued.

 

[Truman]

More like younger and faster. At this stage, it seems Petrino prefers younger guys(!), but that is far from set in concrete. I just think Norwood is better.

 

[AnonymousBob]

More like younger and faster. At this stage, it seems Petrino prefers younger guys(!), but that is far from set in concrete. I just think Norwood is better.

Where has Petrino shown he prefers younger guys?I would think a head coach would go with whoever gives them a better chance to win the next game-regardless of age.

 

[whodeywhodey]

I'm in the 9th round in 2 different drafts and dunn is still available. what round do you think he should be picked given today's news?

 

[The Man with the Plan]

I'm in the 9th round in 2 different drafts and dunn is still available. what round do you think he should be picked given today's news?

Right there.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

why is everyone so surprised dunn is practicing? within hours of the announcement, 3-4 weeks was the time given. and dunn said the procedure was precautionary. looks like he is going to continue to be undervalued.

 

[zadok]

per rotoworld:Warrick Dunn returned to practice on Monday, only three weeks after undergoing back surgery.Dunn practiced with the second team and participated in all drills. It appears that he’ll be ready to share carries with Jerious Norwood by Week 1.

Already back from surgery? 3 Weeks? Wow.

must be scared of losing his starting spot...

I think he already lost that. He'll be a third-down/change-of-pace back now, when healthy.If he's fully recovered and stays healthy, I see a split of somewhere between 60-40 to 70-30 in favor of Norwood.

Why?

Because Norwood is bigger, stronger, faster, is more explosive, etc?

A lot of players have looked damned good as a backup.

So Norwood is not bigger, stronger, faster, is more explosive, etc than Dunn?

 

[Native]

Warrick Dunn has been overshadowed by other players througout his career. I think he has enough juice in the tank to hold off Norwood for at least one more year. Norwoods ADP is round 5 and Dunn's is round 10 and Im guessing their yardage totals will be quite similar.

 

[The Hank]

i still expect snelling to be the goal line guy. Petrino loves him.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Warrick Dunn has been overshadowed by other players througout his career. I think he has enough juice in the tank to hold off Norwood for at least one more year. Norwoods ADP is round 5 and Dunn's is round 10 and Im guessing their yardage totals will be quite similar.

 

[zadok]

Warrick Dunn has been overshadowed by other players througout his career. I think he has enough juice in the tank to hold off Norwood for at least one more year. Norwoods ADP is round 5 and Dunn's is round 10 and Im guessing their yardage totals will be quite similar.

I don't doubt that may happen. But TDs are the important factor to me. Dunn has a career average of 5.8 total TDs per year. That's just not good enough.

 

[thehornet]

This makes Jerious Norwood look even more overvalued and Warrick Dunn look even more undervalued.

Um, No. People are getting to caught up in this overvalued vs. under valued in conjunction with ADP. Norwood's value is through the roof in terms of upside whereas Dunn may have 1 more season of 900-1000yds, but with little chance of more than a couple TD's. After this year he wont even be a factor in Atlanta, my opinion. Dunn has serious risks - age, 2 surgeries in the offseason, and a young, potential stud already working with the first team who had a great rookie campaign as a relatively unknown commodity. Seems as though Dunn is being drafted right where out to be. And same goes for Norwood.

 

[whodeywhodey]

I don't doubt that may happen. But TDs are the important factor to me. Dunn has a career average of 5.8 total TDs per year. That's just not good enough.

It is in the 10th or 11th round.

 

[dickey moe]

I had to pick the last three picks for a buddy of mine in a draft we had over the weekend. Snagged Dunn for him in the final round (19th). He might turn into a real steal this year.

 

[shadyridr]

I dont think either of them will be anything more than a RB3. I dont expect many TDs or opportunities for either of them cuz A) Theyre both small B) The Falcons could have trouble moving the ball C) The Falcons defense sucks D) They will share carries.

 

[whodeywhodey]

I dont think either of them will be anything more than a RB3. I dont expect many TDs or opportunities for either of them cuz A) Theyre both small B) The Falcons could have trouble moving the ball C) The Falcons defense sucks D) They will share carries.

 

[Jon_Moore]

Warrick Dunn has been overshadowed by other players througout his career. I think he has enough juice in the tank to hold off Norwood for at least one more year. Norwoods ADP is round 5 and Dunn's is round 10 and Im guessing their yardage totals will be quite similar.

I don't doubt that may happen. But TDs are the important factor to me. Dunn has a career average of 5.8 total TDs per year. That's just not good enough.

And...how many TD's do you have Norwood pegged for this year?I love that everyone is so quick to pencil Norwood in as the main back. Norwood had a ridiculous 6.4 ypc...as a change of pace back. Dunn had over 1100 yards as the main back. He's broken 1,000 yards 3 straight seasons in rushing, and has NEVER had less than 1,000 total yards in any season in his career. He's a damn good running back, and just because Norwood excelled as the change of pace, that does not mean Dunn is out of a job.I had read Dunn was going to be out several weeks, extending into the regular season. Norwood could have potentially caught fire in taht stretch and taken over. But until Dunn proves himself to not be the same back, I would expect him to get more touches.

 

[hephner]

per rotoworld:Warrick Dunn returned to practice on Monday, only three weeks after undergoing back surgery.Dunn practiced with the second team and participated in all drills. It appears that he’ll be ready to share carries with Jerious Norwood by Week 1.

Already back from surgery? 3 Weeks? Wow.

must be scared of losing his starting spot...

I think he already lost that. He'll be a third-down/change-of-pace back now, when healthy.If he's fully recovered and stays healthy, I see a split of somewhere between 60-40 to 70-30 in favor of Norwood.

Why?

Because Norwood is bigger, stronger, faster, is more explosive, etc?

A lot of players have looked damned good as a backup.

I could name a few: Shaun Alexander, Larry Johnson, Frank Gore, Chester Taylor, Lamont Jordan, etc.All these guys performed well as backups at one point, and then went on to great seasons in their first year as the primary back. I know we could cite dozens more that did not pan out, but I don't see why it is that far-fetched to believe that Norwood's success last year as RB2 couldn't translate well to RB1.Dunn is 32 now and had two off-season surgeries. Combine that with the fact that over the final 8 games of last season, he averaged a paltry 3.4 ypc with just 1 TD, and I think the writing is on the wall.

 

[zadok]

Warrick Dunn has been overshadowed by other players througout his career. I think he has enough juice in the tank to hold off Norwood for at least one more year. Norwoods ADP is round 5 and Dunn's is round 10 and Im guessing their yardage totals will be quite similar.

I don't doubt that may happen. But TDs are the important factor to me. Dunn has a career average of 5.8 total TDs per year. That's just not good enough.

And...how many TD's do you have Norwood pegged for this year?

9 total.

 

[zadok]

A lot of players have looked damned good as a backup.

I could name a few: Shaun Alexander, Larry Johnson, Frank Gore, Chester Taylor, Lamont Jordan, etc.

Priest Holmes, Ahman Green, Steven Jackson, MJD, Willie Parker, Brian Westbrook, etc etc etc...

 

[T Man]

More like younger and faster. At this stage, it seems Petrino prefers younger guys(!), but that is far from set in concrete. I just think Norwood is better.

Where has Petrino shown he prefers younger guys?I would think a head coach would go with whoever gives them a better chance to win the next game-regardless of age.

Petrino is in his first year. While everyone wants to win, new coaches sometimes look at things with a three year plan. If Petrino sees Norwood as needing the reps to get better and will be a stalwart for his team in the future, then Norwood will start regardless of who is better.

In the modern NFL, teams routinely cut players who may be better so they can keep a player who may develop into a better player for the team in the long run. The same is true for starting positions.

 

[Ed Wood]

More like younger and faster. At this stage, it seems Petrino prefers younger guys(!), but that is far from set in concrete. I just think Norwood is better.

Where has Petrino shown he prefers younger guys?I would think a head coach would go with whoever gives them a better chance to win the next game-regardless of age.

He's never played anybody over age 23 in his entire coaching career.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

More like younger and faster. At this stage, it seems Petrino prefers younger guys(!), but that is far from set in concrete. I just think Norwood is better.

Where has Petrino shown he prefers younger guys?I would think a head coach would go with whoever gives them a better chance to win the next game-regardless of age.

He's never played anybody over age 23 in his entire coaching career.

 

[AnonymousBob]

More like younger and faster. At this stage, it seems Petrino prefers younger guys(!), but that is far from set in concrete. I just think Norwood is better.

Where has Petrino shown he prefers younger guys?I would think a head coach would go with whoever gives them a better chance to win the next game-regardless of age.

He's never played anybody over age 23 in his entire coaching career.

Well then that settles that.

 

[Todem]

Dunn will start...again.

Norwood = Trung Canidate part II.

Can't run betwen the tackles if his life depended on it.

Dunn is always undervalued and Brandon Jacobs and Norwood are being over drafted. Temper your expectations IMO.

 

[Rovers]

Dunn will start...again.Norwood = Trung Canidate part II.Can't run betwen the tackles if his life depended on it.Dunn is always undervalued and Brandon Jacobs and Norwood are being over drafted. Temper your expectations IMO.

I'd say take your own advice here.... Snelling is going to steal the GL carries. Temper you expectations on Dunn.

 

[bostonfred]

Dunn had 9 total TDs in 2002. Vick rushed for 8, Duckett rushed for 4.

Dunn had 5 total TDs in 2003. Vick rushed for 1, Duckett rushed for 11.

Dunn had 9 total TDs in 2004 (all rushing). An injury plagued Vick rushed for 3, Duckett rushed for 8.

Dunn had 4 total TDs in 2005. Vick rushed for 6, Duckett rushed for 8.

Dunn had 5 total TDs in 2006. Vick rushed for 2, Norwood rushed for 2, and Griffith rushed for 1. Vick also passed for a career high 20 TDs, compared with 14-16 in his previous full years.

So bottom line, Dunn has had his TD opportunities limited by a couple guys who averaged over 12 TDs a season combined from 2002-2005. The Atlanta running back can still score TDs, it's just that Dunn hasn't been the guy to do it. And in 2006, the whole offense was down.

I don't think Dunn is anything more than the sentimental favorite to win the starting job. He had his worst YPC as a Falcon in 2006 while receiving the most carries of his career. He is now 32. He's got a new head coach, and there's a running back who's been getting all the first string reps for the last month. Vick and Duckett are gone.

The real questions are, first, do you want the Atlanta running back this year? The offense will be completely different. There's just not enough information right now on how well Atlanta will do with their crappy passing game and whether Norwood or Dunn is good enough to open lanes. I don't know if Atlanta can even put together a mediocre offense, with wide receivers who have never had a real quarterback before, and a quarterback who has never lived up to expectations. But if they can, Norwood becomes more desirable.

And second, is Norwood good enough to be the reason that Atlanta has a good offense. In my opinion, Norwood has an opportunity. If he's good enough - and he was considered one of the top running back prospects in his draft class - then he may have a chance to take the job and run with it. That's the bigger question, not whether Dunn will get the carries of whether there will be a goal line back. If Norwood's any good, and/or the rest of the offense performs better sans Vick, Norwood will be a good value. All the rest of this conversation is window dressing.

Right now, I would put Norwood in the upper middle of the lead-runner-in-their-RBBC category, ahead of guys like Deshaun Foster who have had a chance to produce but failed, and ahead of guys who would need an injury to take the starting job outright, like Tatum Bell (if Jones returns). He's a little more valuable than DeAngelo, because he should be the starter, he's just as young, and similarly talented. But he's not as valuable as a guy who straight up holds his job.

 

[Todem]

Dunn will start...again.Norwood = Trung Canidate part II.Can't run betwen the tackles if his life depended on it.Dunn is always undervalued and Brandon Jacobs and Norwood are being over drafted. Temper your expectations IMO.

I'd say take your own advice here.... Snelling is going to steal the GL carries. Temper you expectations on Dunn.

I am not drafting Dunn before the end of the 8th early 9th and Jacobs is going around the 4th or 5th.My expectations of Dunn are great bye week fill and could be usuful as a RB3 or 4 if you get hit with injuries.Good value.