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Washer/Dryer recommendations needed (1 Viewer)

jamny said:
We're looking for a smaller (2.4 cu washer, 4.0 cuft dryer) stackable, front loader.

We're hooked up with 240 AC and the vent but most dryers in that size are ventless. Any experience with ventless? I'd hate to not utilize the existing vent for a lesser option.
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Miele little giant.

It's what I get all my clients and is supposedly the best ventless option that size. Has some space requirements (more clear space needed at back) and uses 240. Dries faster and is professional, so set up to do tons of loads vs mieles residential version which is also good.

Iirc lg and maybe Electrolux have options too.

Eta...it also ain't cheap.

 
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Why the smaller unit? Space reasons? I used a vented ge a few years back  for under counter, but was deeper than 24.

 
El Floppo said:
Why the smaller unit? Space reasons? I used a vented ge a few years back  for under counter, but was deeper than 24.
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Thanks for the info! I was looking at the Miele but haven't found a lot of reviews yet. 

We could probably squeeze a full size in the closet space but it would be tight. Since it's just the two of us and we could use the closet space for other things on the sides, I think the smaller unit would work out.

eta: Wow, those are pricey! I'll pay for quality though if it's worth it.

 
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You are also supposed to keep the little drawer where you put detergent and other fluids open as well, to keep dry in between uses.
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We had a Whirlpool Duet front loader. Cleaned well for the most part, but the washer boot would gunk up with black s### no matter how much I kept the door open. I replaced it twice in 2 years. When it gradually started to fall apart I ditched it. 

 
jamny said:
Thanks for the info! I was looking at the Miele but haven't found a lot of reviews yet. 

We could probably squeeze a full size in the closet space but it would be tight. Since it's just the two of us and we could use the closet space for other things on the sides, I think the smaller unit would work out.

eta: Wow, those are pricey! I'll pay for quality though if it's worth it.
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Miele have the 3 highest rated compact washers on consumer reports, along with 1 Samsung. All the same rating. Capacity = 2.3 cu ft. Size= 34x24x25. Samsung is 34x24x27, 2.2 cu ft.

 
jamny said:
We're looking for a smaller (2.4 cu washer, 4.0 cuft dryer) stackable, front loader.

We're hooked up with 240 AC and the vent but most dryers in that size are ventless. Any experience with ventless? I'd hate to not utilize the existing vent for a lesser option.
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I have an all-in-one LG washer/dryer that’s ventless. It takes a long time for a load of clothes but it’s nice to put in dirty clothes and take out dry clean clothes. 

 
Henry Ford said:
I have an all-in-one LG washer/dryer that’s ventless. It takes a long time for a load of clothes but it’s nice to put in dirty clothes and take out dry clean clothes. 
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I've only ever recommended these if the person has no space...like a studio apartment...or is coming in and not wanting to renovate at all... Like a rental. Great concept, but tough sell ime.

 
El Floppo said:
Miele little giant.

It's what I get all my clients and is supposedly the best ventless option that size. Has some space requirements (more clear space needed at back) and uses 240. Dries faster and is professional, so set up to do tons of loads vs mieles residential version which is also good.

Iirc lg and maybe Electrolux have options too.

Eta...it also ain't cheap.
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This is what we have.  We like it for hte most part.  2 minor inconveniences:
1) You have to remember to empty the condensation collector every couple of loads
2) If you have a load of heavy clothes like hoodies or something like towels you're running at least 2 full drying cycles.

That said, #2 much worse with the ventless Samsung we had before the Miele

 
I'm looking for W/D set now.  14 y/o Kenmore bit it.

BTW... it was a front load washer and my wife says "never again".  The mold, smell and constant cleanup are not worth it.  Back to the top load and wasting water :shrug:  

 
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Speed Queen ---- we had to replace our washer a few years back and absolutely beyond pleased with the Speed Queen - well worth it.

The old Kenmore Dryer (about 9 years old now I believe) is still going, but when it inevitably come to it's end of life I wouldn't hesitate to get a Speed Queen dryer.

 
acarey50 said:
Speed Queen ---- we had to replace our washer a few years back and absolutely beyond pleased with the Speed Queen - well worth it.

The old Kenmore Dryer (about 9 years old now I believe) is still going, but when it inevitably come to it's end of life I wouldn't hesitate to get a Speed Queen dryer.
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I was going to say the same thing.   Speed Queen.  We got a new Samsung top loading HE washer and dryer set about 5 years ago.  It worked well.  We had 1 repair on the dryer and it was covered by an extended warrantee, but the washer started rusting at the hinge on the lid.  My wife also claimed that her old washer with an agitator got the clothes cleaner.

So 5 years passed, the rust wasn't terrible but it obviously doesn't get better and we figured we would have to replace it eventually.  We took the plunge and ordered a Speed Queen set.  We got the classic version of the Speed Queen.  The top loading TC5 and the matching DC5.  It has no lid lock and has 'Classic Clean' which I think has to do with how the agitator rotates.

From what I understand the 'Classic Clean' means the tub and the agitator rotate in opposite directions.  All the other top load Speed Queens have 'Perfect Wash' which I think means the agitator and the tub are linked and rotate in the same direction.  "Perfect Wash' is supposed to be gentler on your clothes.  For some odd reason, I remember reading about Speed Queen on this board and in my youtube video watching I came across a Speed Queen dealer that was all upset about this 'Perfect Wash'.  He said that having the tub and agitator rotating in the same direction kind of defeated the purpose of having an agitator.  I don't know why, but for some reason that stuck with me and I remembered it when I went to make my purchase.  When I saw the TC5 with 'Classic Clean' I knew that was the one I wanted.  In fact I think SQ brought back this 'Classic Clean' style because of the complaints.   It's also nice that it doesn't have a lid lock so you can add items after the washer is running without having to pause, then unlock.

My wife said she can definitely tell that the clothes are cleaner.   I mean, it kind of makes sense with the agitator.  She also said the cycles are a lot shorter compared to the old Samsung.  We've only had the Speed Queen for about a month now but I feel like my wife absolutely prefers an old school style washer / dryer and I do as well.  If they live up to their reputation in reliability, I will definitely be happy.  They were pricy, but I am glad we did it.

 
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Another vote for Speed Queen. Classic style that just works. Obviously not energy or water efficient though if that concerns you 

 
Samsung is junk or at least uses junk parts.  What really pisses me off is that they have known engineering issues and don't tell you.  

Washer drain pump was mounted to the machine via basically a plastic lever arm.  That broke due to vibration and the the hose eventually worked loose with it flopping around and flooded the house.  Luckily I was downstairs on the couch and water starting dripping through the light otherwise it could have been a major disaster.  When I ordered a replacement part the design was different, so obviously they knew about it but didn't do a recall.

On the dryers the belt tension pulley design make the wheel bearings on a 50 year old Big Wheel trike look like next level Formula One engineering.  Maybe skip 10 or so of the 50 dry settings and upgrade the three moving parts that actually make it work?

Samsung either must be outsourcing their design work to elementary students taking an Introduction to Engineering course or all the smart kids in Korea moved to the US.

 
Keerock said:
I'm looking for W/D set now.  14 y/o Kenmore bit it.

BTW... it was a front load washer and my wife says "never again".  The mold, smell and constant cleanup are not worth it.  Back to the top load and wasting water :shrug:  
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You have to leave the doors open when not in use. It is a poor design. 

 
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BassNBrew said:
Samsung is junk or at least uses junk parts.  What really pisses me off is that they have known engineering issues and don't tell you.  

Washer drain pump was mounted to the machine via basically a plastic lever arm.  That broke due to vibration and the the hose eventually worked loose with it flopping around and flooded the house.  Luckily I was downstairs on the couch and water starting dripping through the light otherwise it could have been a major disaster.  When I ordered a replacement part the design was different, so obviously they knew about it but didn't do a recall.

On the dryers the belt tension pulley design make the wheel bearings on a 50 year old Big Wheel trike look like next level Formula One engineering.  Maybe skip 10 or so of the 50 dry settings and upgrade the three moving parts that actually make it work?

Samsung either must be outsourcing their design work to elementary students taking an Introduction to Engineering course or all the smart kids in Korea moved to the US.
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The part you are talking about on the dryer... I am 99% sure that is what broke on our Samsung dryer.  Repair guy said he knew what was wrong simply by me explaining the noise it made when it broke.  Point being, I think he has dealt with it many times over.

The crazy thing is, I believe it broke within 1 year of use.  It was definitely in the first 3 years because that is what our extended warranty was for.  It sounds like old man speak to hear the phrase 'they don't make em like they used to' but in the case of Samsung it appears to be true.

 
While I was posting in this thread and looking at Speed Queen stuff I was on youtube and found this video:

Speed Queen vs. Maytag Commercial

I think Speed Queen is an awesome choice and I still highly recommend it.  Just thought i would mention another good option that might be slightly less expensive, the Maytag Commercial.  I'm intrigued by the dual action agitator they talk about too.

When the repair guy was fixing our old Samsung we asked him which make he likes and he mentioned Maytag right away.  The commercial model looks like it was made to compete with Speed Queen really.

 
Jutz said:
The part you are talking about on the dryer... I am 99% sure that is what broke on our Samsung dryer.  Repair guy said he knew what was wrong simply by me explaining the noise it made when it broke.  Point being, I think he has dealt with it many times over.

The crazy thing is, I believe it broke within 1 year of use.  It was definitely in the first 3 years because that is what our extended warranty was for.  It sounds like old man speak to hear the phrase 'they don't make em like they used to' but in the case of Samsung it appears to be true.
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Yeah, I diagonised it via youtube by the sqeaking noise..  The parts plus new belt were maybe $15.  I was outside my one year warranty so I did it myself.  $300 repair at least.  All the time was in tearing down the exterior panels because everything had to come apart to get to the pulley.  I don't know how these repair guys get these things back together solo because an extra set of hands to hold the flimsy metal in place and line up the holes was helpful.  There were plastic shavings from the pulley all over the inside.  I was expecting more parts inside a dryer, but honestly it looked like something out of a Flintstones cartoon.  I'm shocked they work as good as they do based on what I saw.  Also surprised that they needed close to 500 fasteners on the exterior.  OK...maybe it wasn't 500, but it was a lot.

 
PlayaHata said:
Which Brands Make the Most Reliable Appliances from Consumer Reports

Personally, We've had an LG washer and dryer for a long time and are very happy with it.  Also, count me as another one who has read/heard that Samsung appliances are horrible compared to other brands.
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Ikea? huh.

and yeah- interesting to see LG up there... I've only ever speced them for W/D. tbh, not a brand I ever think about for the high end kitchens. it's always Miele, Sub-zero, Wolf and lately BlueStar. but the latter isn't even up there.

 
I need a new washer.  The agitator snapped off.  It worked for a couple of months, but didn't do a very good job.  Now the pump that drains the water went.  Game over.  I want a 5.0 or above, under $900.  Not sure what I'm gonna do yet.

 
Yeah, big no to Samsung appliances. Six-year-old pair washer and dryer...

  • Washer (quality): Enamel finish around bleach funnel is rust²
  • Washer (quality): Loud as ####
  • Dryer (design): dryer door restricted 90 degree swinging range
  • Dryer (design): Lint filter system is pretty jokey

I love my Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ (37 months strong), but I'll never buy another one of their appliances.
 
Exactly where I’m at. I’ve had the heating element fail twice a year for the past 4 years. It’s a 30$ fix but I’m over it

Also the drum is messing up now as well.
 
I've been pretty happy with the Frigidaire sets I've had. One lasted 15+ years until the bearing on the washer failed. I did have to replace the lock mechanism around year 13 though.

Bought a replacement set and is been thing strong for about 2 years now. No issues whatsoever.

I think there's an appliance forum for those that are really into this sort of thing. https://www.automaticwasher.org/
 
I purchased a set of Maytag Bravos units when house was purchased 8-9 years ago now. Replaced felt belt on dryer a month or so ago (pretty easy fix), but the bearings on the washer go out about once a year now (already replaced twice, will do so again this weekend for a third time, and it’s a bit of a pain to do, but only like $30 in parts and an hour or two of my time). Will likely throw in the towel the next time they fail.

Anyway, might be worth looking into a heat pump type dryer. Newer tech, I know, but potential tax breaks and apparently much more efficient.
 
I went with GE when I replaced my set about a year ago. We have a local family-owned appliance company in my small town who's been in business since Hector was a pup and they push GE. I was fine with being pushed in that direction (I had used them before on other stuff and their reputation is stellar) and, so far, everything's been great.
 
I've been a fan of the Whirlpool top loaders and their matching dryer. Namely the Cabrio line. I believe they have upgraded that line further as we purchased ours about 6 years ago. We had Samsung front loaders and sold them with our house when we moved to Texas. The Whirlpools have been super reliable. Ours is the model without the agitator and it seems to clean our clothes very well.
 
When we built our house, we bought all new appliances from the local store. I did price check them with Best Buy, Lowes, ETC. and they were not much more on comparable models and also have a service department if something does happen. He talked us into going with Speed Queen. Wife was not happy about it because she didn't wan white and they only come in white, but I said I wanted something dependable and durable. They normally have a 7 year warranty, but there was a special going on when we bought ours and we got a 12 year warranty with ours. I have had had no issues so far. They were more expensive than other brands, but if I don't have to worry about buying a washer and dryer for 12 years I am in.
 
snellman said:
When we built our house, we bought all new appliances from the local store. I did price check them with Best Buy, Lowes, ETC. and they were not much more on comparable models and also have a service department if something does happen. He talked us into going with Speed Queen. Wife was not happy about it because she didn't wan white and they only come in white, but I said I wanted something dependable and durable. They normally have a 7 year warranty, but there was a special going on when we bought ours and we got a 12 year warranty with ours. I have had had no issues so far. They were more expensive than other brands, but if I don't have to worry about buying a washer and dryer for 12 years I am in.
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That’s a pretty legit warranty. Never heard of the brand but who cares. Warranty ftw
 
Big League Chew said:
snellman said:
When we built our house, we bought all new appliances from the local store. I did price check them with Best Buy, Lowes, ETC. and they were not much more on comparable models and also have a service department if something does happen. He talked us into going with Speed Queen. Wife was not happy about it because she didn't wan white and they only come in white, but I said I wanted something dependable and durable. They normally have a 7 year warranty, but there was a special going on when we bought ours and we got a 12 year warranty with ours. I have had had no issues so far. They were more expensive than other brands, but if I don't have to worry about buying a washer and dryer for 12 years I am in.
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That’s a pretty legit warranty. Never heard of the brand but who cares. Warranty ftw
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https://speedqueen.com/legacy/ will show you the ratings page. Our local appliance store said it is by far their most reliable brand that they sell.
 
snellman said:
Big League Chew said:
snellman said:
When we built our house, we bought all new appliances from the local store. I did price check them with Best Buy, Lowes, ETC. and they were not much more on comparable models and also have a service department if something does happen. He talked us into going with Speed Queen. Wife was not happy about it because she didn't wan white and they only come in white, but I said I wanted something dependable and durable. They normally have a 7 year warranty, but there was a special going on when we bought ours and we got a 12 year warranty with ours. I have had had no issues so far. They were more expensive than other brands, but if I don't have to worry about buying a washer and dryer for 12 years I am in.
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That’s a pretty legit warranty. Never heard of the brand but who cares. Warranty ftw
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https://speedqueen.com/legacy/ will show you the ratings page. Our local appliance store said it is by far their most reliable brand that they sell.
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Speed Queen top loaders are historically super reliable. There's a reason the laundromats use them.
 
After a little over 20 years, my Whirlpool Duets are going to be replaced. I have replaced the belt on the dryer and the seal on the washer, but lately the washer just walks across the floor. I thought of changing the shocks, but after reading and viewing some videos, the drum has some play which sounds like a rear bearing.

We agreed years ago to go back to a top loader when the time came, but most reviews still say front loaders are better. Especially the LG's.
Yes, Speed Queens seem fantastic, but not sure I'm willing to spend an extra $1,000 or so.

Also seems like Whirlpool reliability has tanked since covid.
 
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