As a longtime Broncos fan, what's even more embarrassing is Sean Payton running his mouth this summer about last year's coaching staff and then opening up by coaching the team to home losses to the Raiders and Commanders (two teams who likely won't sniff the playoffs). Nice work, Coach.Just frustrating, The missed face mask call that changed the whole momentum of the game and now this--it is embarrassing for the NFL
That's like...your opinion man.As a longtime Broncos fan, what's even more embarrassing is Sean Payton running his mouth this summer about last year's coaching staff and then opening up by coaching the team to home losses to the Raiders and Commanders (two teams who likely won't sniff the playoffs). Nice work, Coach.Just frustrating, The missed face mask call that changed the whole momentum of the game and now this--it is embarrassing for the NFL
Dude…I meant it was barely DPI. I saw the play.You barely saw it...but it was a great callI saw it…barely…it was very weak….great no call to have a game end on a touchy flag.What?, he was pulling him by his shoulder pads. Did you watch the playHardly….if that’s interference you might as well throw flags every single play.More stellar officiating, clear interference![]()
I have been impressed. Moxie and heart…and smooth. He has a future.Not enough can be said about Sam Howell. All this 5th round QB BS needs to be permanently buried. Kid has heart, played smart, and is a damn good QB. That's only his 3rd start and he wins in a pretty tough environment. I'd say Washington has their franchise QB for sure. 3-0 as a starter too
He's the best QB we've had since Cousins for sure. And I think if he continues to improve, he could end up a better QB than Cousins. Definitely more mobile and tougher.I have been impressed. Moxie and heart…and smooth. He has a future.Not enough can be said about Sam Howell. All this 5th round QB BS needs to be permanently buried. Kid has heart, played smart, and is a damn good QB. That's only his 3rd start and he wins in a pretty tough environment. I'd say Washington has their franchise QB for sure. 3-0 as a starter too
I see pros and cons. That slow release is a problem, but I thought they schemed him a little more time today. Limiting mistakes is key because this D-line can lean on teams.I have been impressed. Moxie and heart…and smooth. He has a future.Not enough can be said about Sam Howell. All this 5th round QB BS needs to be permanently buried. Kid has heart, played smart, and is a damn good QB. That's only his 3rd start and he wins in a pretty tough environment. I'd say Washington has their franchise QB for sure. 3-0 as a starter too
Dude...stop the below video at 0:02. it wasn't just DPI. It was massively egregious DPI.Dude…I meant it was barely DPI. I saw the play.
Howell needs to improve on getting the ball out sooner on occasions to avoid sacks. However, no one can question his arm talent, mobility, and calm demeaner under fire. He definitely has the potential to be better than Cousins, who is obviously a great QB but who has struggled tamping down turnovers during crunch time, even as a veteran. I think this may be the factor that makes him a more valuable QB than Cousins. But as everyone says, he's only had 3 starts and is a work in progress, so we'll see. But, not bad for your first three pro starts ever...he's got potential.He's the best QB we've had since Cousins for sure. And I think if he continues to improve, he could end up a better QB than Cousins. Definitely more mobile and tougher.I have been impressed. Moxie and heart…and smooth. He has a future.Not enough can be said about Sam Howell. All this 5th round QB BS needs to be permanently buried. Kid has heart, played smart, and is a damn good QB. That's only his 3rd start and he wins in a pretty tough environment. I'd say Washington has their franchise QB for sure. 3-0 as a starter too
All day today, Denver fans will talk about this supposed DPI. Yet there will be zero talk of the fact that Sutton clearly did not get both feet down on the out route that set up the Hail Mary. Had that play been called correctly, the Hail Mary would have been much more difficult to execute.Dude...stop the below video at 0:02. it wasn't just DPI. It was massively egregious DPI.Dude…I meant it was barely DPI. I saw the play.
Left hand grabbing and turning Sutton's shoulder, right hand horse collar
Fair enough, but my point was ultimately about the Broncos. I can change it to, "As a longtime Broncos fan, what's even more embarrassing is Sean Payton running his mouth this summer about last year's coaching staff and then opening up by coaching the team to home losses to the Raiders and Commanders (two non-playoff teams from last year)," if that makes you feel better.That's like...your opinion man.As a longtime Broncos fan, what's even more embarrassing is Sean Payton running his mouth this summer about last year's coaching staff and then opening up by coaching the team to home losses to the Raiders and Commanders (two teams who likely won't sniff the playoffs). Nice work, Coach.Just frustrating, The missed face mask call that changed the whole momentum of the game and now this--it is embarrassing for the NFLOur QB is 3-0 as a starter and we have a very talented roster of young players. This team will continue to get better and the NFC is pretty wide open compared to the AFC, so no way I'd say they have no shot at the playoffs.
Buzz off with your biased homerism accusations. My comment was (and is still) just about the play itself.All day today, Denver fans will talk about this supposed DPI. Yet there will be zero talk of the fact that Sutton clearly did not get both feet down on the out route that set up the Hail Mary. Had that play been called correctly, the Hail Mary would have been much more difficult to execute.
This is the problem with fans obsessing on one pay that screws their team and proclaiming, "they definitely should have won." I haven't gone back and looked at every ref call and non-call through the whole game so I don't know if I would say one team got the breaks over the other. But I do know that it wasn't just a matter of "refs took a certain victory away from Denver because of a DPI screwjob at the end." Fans of every team pick out isolated plays and reasons how their teams are screwed every week. Of course Washington fans do this as well.
In the end, it was a hard fought game. Denver looked better early, but Washington really did take control in the second half. I think they deserved to win the game. But for sure it could have gone either way.
ETA: regarding the last play, I thought if anything, it would have been a ticky-tack call to the extreme, which I don't advocate calling in this last second situation. I think it would had to be more aggregious. But fans of both teams are obviously gonna see it differently, but my take was it was very ticky-tack and would have been a matter of refs deciding the game's outcome...but again maybe I'm biased.
Buzz off with your biased homerism accusations. My comment was (and is still) just about the play itself.All day today, Denver fans will talk about this supposed DPI. Yet there will be zero talk of the fact that Sutton clearly did not get both feet down on the out route that set up the Hail Mary. Had that play been called correctly, the Hail Mary would have been much more difficult to execute.
This is the problem with fans obsessing on one pay that screws their team and proclaiming, "they definitely should have won." I haven't gone back and looked at every ref call and non-call through the whole game so I don't know if I would say one team got the breaks over the other. But I do know that it wasn't just a matter of "refs took a certain victory away from Denver because of a DPI screwjob at the end." Fans of every team pick out isolated plays and reasons how their teams are screwed every week. Of course Washington fans do this as well.
In the end, it was a hard fought game. Denver looked better early, but Washington really did take control in the second half. I think they deserved to win the game. But for sure it could have gone either way.
ETA: regarding the last play, I thought if anything, it would have been a ticky-tack call to the extreme, which I don't advocate calling in this last second situation. I think it would had to be more aggregious. But fans of both teams are obviously gonna see it differently, but my take was it was very ticky-tack and would have been a matter of refs deciding the game's outcome...but again maybe I'm biased.
CBS rules analyst Gene Steratore saw the game, saw exactly what I saw, and agrees. The referee fraternity doesn't comment on bad referee calls unless they're egregious. We'll leave it at that.
IMO, the contact by the defender significantly impacted the receiver's ability to make a play on the ball - Gene Steratore
Sorry, nothing you or Gene Steratore have said invalidates my comments. There are many calls and non-calls every game that impact the final result. In my opinion, it is not legitimate to say, "we're just take this one call (that I don't like) and ignore all the others. I gave you a specific example of where Sutton was given a catch he should not have got and that significantly impacted the Hail Mary. I don't need to ask Gene Steratore's permission to make that observation. He's not the final arbiter of this disagreement. He also isn't the final word on whether the call was correct or not. Obviously, if you don't like it, that's fine. We can agree to disagree. I'm not going to tell you to "buzz off" because we both have the right to express our opinions here. Thanks in advance for recognizing my right to disagree and debate with you on this.Buzz off with your biased homerism accusations. My comment was (and is still) just about the play itself.All day today, Denver fans will talk about this supposed DPI. Yet there will be zero talk of the fact that Sutton clearly did not get both feet down on the out route that set up the Hail Mary. Had that play been called correctly, the Hail Mary would have been much more difficult to execute.
This is the problem with fans obsessing on one pay that screws their team and proclaiming, "they definitely should have won." I haven't gone back and looked at every ref call and non-call through the whole game so I don't know if I would say one team got the breaks over the other. But I do know that it wasn't just a matter of "refs took a certain victory away from Denver because of a DPI screwjob at the end." Fans of every team pick out isolated plays and reasons how their teams are screwed every week. Of course Washington fans do this as well.
In the end, it was a hard fought game. Denver looked better early, but Washington really did take control in the second half. I think they deserved to win the game. But for sure it could have gone either way.
ETA: regarding the last play, I thought if anything, it would have been a ticky-tack call to the extreme, which I don't advocate calling in this last second situation. I think it would had to be more aggregious. But fans of both teams are obviously gonna see it differently, but my take was it was very ticky-tack and would have been a matter of refs deciding the game's outcome...but again maybe I'm biased.
CBS rules analyst Gene Steratore saw the game, saw exactly what I saw, and agrees. The referee fraternity doesn't comment on bad referee calls unless they're egregious. We'll leave it at that.
IMO, the contact by the defender significantly impacted the receiver's ability to make a play on the ball - Gene Steratore
Thanks for your opinion. I'll stick with the professional's.Buzz off with your biased homerism accusations. My comment was (and is still) just about the play itself.All day today, Denver fans will talk about this supposed DPI. Yet there will be zero talk of the fact that Sutton clearly did not get both feet down on the out route that set up the Hail Mary. Had that play been called correctly, the Hail Mary would have been much more difficult to execute.
This is the problem with fans obsessing on one pay that screws their team and proclaiming, "they definitely should have won." I haven't gone back and looked at every ref call and non-call through the whole game so I don't know if I would say one team got the breaks over the other. But I do know that it wasn't just a matter of "refs took a certain victory away from Denver because of a DPI screwjob at the end." Fans of every team pick out isolated plays and reasons how their teams are screwed every week. Of course Washington fans do this as well.
In the end, it was a hard fought game. Denver looked better early, but Washington really did take control in the second half. I think they deserved to win the game. But for sure it could have gone either way.
ETA: regarding the last play, I thought if anything, it would have been a ticky-tack call to the extreme, which I don't advocate calling in this last second situation. I think it would had to be more aggregious. But fans of both teams are obviously gonna see it differently, but my take was it was very ticky-tack and would have been a matter of refs deciding the game's outcome...but again maybe I'm biased.
CBS rules analyst Gene Steratore saw the game, saw exactly what I saw, and agrees. The referee fraternity doesn't comment on bad referee calls unless they're egregious. We'll leave it at that.
IMO, the contact by the defender significantly impacted the receiver's ability to make a play on the ball - Gene Steratore
Sorry, nothing you or Gene Steratore have said invalidates my comments. There are many calls and non-calls every game that impact the final result. In my opinion, it is not legitimate to say, "we're just take this one call (that I don't like) and ignore all the others. I gave you a specific example of where Sutton was given a catch he should not have got and that significantly impacted the Hail Mary. I don't need to ask Gene Steratore's permission to make that observation. He's not the final arbiter of this disagreement. He also isn't the final word on whether the call was correct or not. Obviously, if you don't like it, that's fine. We can agree to disagree. I'm not going to tell you to "buzz off" because we both have the right to express our opinions here. Thanks in advance for recognizing my right to disagree and debate with you on this.
And specifically, the professional that supports your perspective. Good debating with you on this, dude. Good luck to the Broncos next week. We can agree to disagree and I can respect that.Thanks for your opinion. I'll stick with the professional's.Buzz off with your biased homerism accusations. My comment was (and is still) just about the play itself.All day today, Denver fans will talk about this supposed DPI. Yet there will be zero talk of the fact that Sutton clearly did not get both feet down on the out route that set up the Hail Mary. Had that play been called correctly, the Hail Mary would have been much more difficult to execute.
This is the problem with fans obsessing on one pay that screws their team and proclaiming, "they definitely should have won." I haven't gone back and looked at every ref call and non-call through the whole game so I don't know if I would say one team got the breaks over the other. But I do know that it wasn't just a matter of "refs took a certain victory away from Denver because of a DPI screwjob at the end." Fans of every team pick out isolated plays and reasons how their teams are screwed every week. Of course Washington fans do this as well.
In the end, it was a hard fought game. Denver looked better early, but Washington really did take control in the second half. I think they deserved to win the game. But for sure it could have gone either way.
ETA: regarding the last play, I thought if anything, it would have been a ticky-tack call to the extreme, which I don't advocate calling in this last second situation. I think it would had to be more aggregious. But fans of both teams are obviously gonna see it differently, but my take was it was very ticky-tack and would have been a matter of refs deciding the game's outcome...but again maybe I'm biased.
CBS rules analyst Gene Steratore saw the game, saw exactly what I saw, and agrees. The referee fraternity doesn't comment on bad referee calls unless they're egregious. We'll leave it at that.
IMO, the contact by the defender significantly impacted the receiver's ability to make a play on the ball - Gene Steratore
Sorry, nothing you or Gene Steratore have said invalidates my comments. There are many calls and non-calls every game that impact the final result. In my opinion, it is not legitimate to say, "we're just take this one call (that I don't like) and ignore all the others. I gave you a specific example of where Sutton was given a catch he should not have got and that significantly impacted the Hail Mary. I don't need to ask Gene Steratore's permission to make that observation. He's not the final arbiter of this disagreement. He also isn't the final word on whether the call was correct or not. Obviously, if you don't like it, that's fine. We can agree to disagree. I'm not going to tell you to "buzz off" because we both have the right to express our opinions here. Thanks in advance for recognizing my right to disagree and debate with you on this.
Find an officiating professional not involved in the game that supports your perspective and maybe we could have a genuine debate.And specifically, the professional that supports your perspective. Good debating with you on this, dude. Good luck to the Broncos next week. We can agree to disagree and I can respect that.Thanks for your opinion. I'll stick with the professional's.Buzz off with your biased homerism accusations. My comment was (and is still) just about the play itself.All day today, Denver fans will talk about this supposed DPI. Yet there will be zero talk of the fact that Sutton clearly did not get both feet down on the out route that set up the Hail Mary. Had that play been called correctly, the Hail Mary would have been much more difficult to execute.
This is the problem with fans obsessing on one pay that screws their team and proclaiming, "they definitely should have won." I haven't gone back and looked at every ref call and non-call through the whole game so I don't know if I would say one team got the breaks over the other. But I do know that it wasn't just a matter of "refs took a certain victory away from Denver because of a DPI screwjob at the end." Fans of every team pick out isolated plays and reasons how their teams are screwed every week. Of course Washington fans do this as well.
In the end, it was a hard fought game. Denver looked better early, but Washington really did take control in the second half. I think they deserved to win the game. But for sure it could have gone either way.
ETA: regarding the last play, I thought if anything, it would have been a ticky-tack call to the extreme, which I don't advocate calling in this last second situation. I think it would had to be more aggregious. But fans of both teams are obviously gonna see it differently, but my take was it was very ticky-tack and would have been a matter of refs deciding the game's outcome...but again maybe I'm biased.
CBS rules analyst Gene Steratore saw the game, saw exactly what I saw, and agrees. The referee fraternity doesn't comment on bad referee calls unless they're egregious. We'll leave it at that.
IMO, the contact by the defender significantly impacted the receiver's ability to make a play on the ball - Gene Steratore
Sorry, nothing you or Gene Steratore have said invalidates my comments. There are many calls and non-calls every game that impact the final result. In my opinion, it is not legitimate to say, "we're just take this one call (that I don't like) and ignore all the others. I gave you a specific example of where Sutton was given a catch he should not have got and that significantly impacted the Hail Mary. I don't need to ask Gene Steratore's permission to make that observation. He's not the final arbiter of this disagreement. He also isn't the final word on whether the call was correct or not. Obviously, if you don't like it, that's fine. We can agree to disagree. I'm not going to tell you to "buzz off" because we both have the right to express our opinions here. Thanks in advance for recognizing my right to disagree and debate with you on this.
I'll just be honest with you, I'm probably not going to take the time to do a bunch of web searches to look for different officiating takes on the game. Part of my perspective is not just fixating on that one play, but looking at other calls and no calls that happened earlier. I am just sharing my perspective on football generally...and how fans look at the calls after the fact. If my not posting a bunch of links here allows you to come back and "declare victory," have at it. I don't care. Beyond that, I get it dude. You seem to be really, really upset about the game. I get it. When a call goes against my team I complain as well. So, I totally get it. I'd be just as pissed. Anyway, good luck the rest of the season.Find an officiating professional not involved in the game that supports your perspective and maybe we could have a genuine debate.And specifically, the professional that supports your perspective. Good debating with you on this, dude. Good luck to the Broncos next week. We can agree to disagree and I can respect that.Thanks for your opinion. I'll stick with the professional's.Buzz off with your biased homerism accusations. My comment was (and is still) just about the play itself.All day today, Denver fans will talk about this supposed DPI. Yet there will be zero talk of the fact that Sutton clearly did not get both feet down on the out route that set up the Hail Mary. Had that play been called correctly, the Hail Mary would have been much more difficult to execute.
This is the problem with fans obsessing on one pay that screws their team and proclaiming, "they definitely should have won." I haven't gone back and looked at every ref call and non-call through the whole game so I don't know if I would say one team got the breaks over the other. But I do know that it wasn't just a matter of "refs took a certain victory away from Denver because of a DPI screwjob at the end." Fans of every team pick out isolated plays and reasons how their teams are screwed every week. Of course Washington fans do this as well.
In the end, it was a hard fought game. Denver looked better early, but Washington really did take control in the second half. I think they deserved to win the game. But for sure it could have gone either way.
ETA: regarding the last play, I thought if anything, it would have been a ticky-tack call to the extreme, which I don't advocate calling in this last second situation. I think it would had to be more aggregious. But fans of both teams are obviously gonna see it differently, but my take was it was very ticky-tack and would have been a matter of refs deciding the game's outcome...but again maybe I'm biased.
CBS rules analyst Gene Steratore saw the game, saw exactly what I saw, and agrees. The referee fraternity doesn't comment on bad referee calls unless they're egregious. We'll leave it at that.
IMO, the contact by the defender significantly impacted the receiver's ability to make a play on the ball - Gene Steratore
Sorry, nothing you or Gene Steratore have said invalidates my comments. There are many calls and non-calls every game that impact the final result. In my opinion, it is not legitimate to say, "we're just take this one call (that I don't like) and ignore all the others. I gave you a specific example of where Sutton was given a catch he should not have got and that significantly impacted the Hail Mary. I don't need to ask Gene Steratore's permission to make that observation. He's not the final arbiter of this disagreement. He also isn't the final word on whether the call was correct or not. Obviously, if you don't like it, that's fine. We can agree to disagree. I'm not going to tell you to "buzz off" because we both have the right to express our opinions here. Thanks in advance for recognizing my right to disagree and debate with you on this.
You're wrong about the Sutton catch tooBuzz off with your biased homerism accusations. My comment was (and is still) just about the play itself.All day today, Denver fans will talk about this supposed DPI. Yet there will be zero talk of the fact that Sutton clearly did not get both feet down on the out route that set up the Hail Mary. Had that play been called correctly, the Hail Mary would have been much more difficult to execute.
This is the problem with fans obsessing on one pay that screws their team and proclaiming, "they definitely should have won." I haven't gone back and looked at every ref call and non-call through the whole game so I don't know if I would say one team got the breaks over the other. But I do know that it wasn't just a matter of "refs took a certain victory away from Denver because of a DPI screwjob at the end." Fans of every team pick out isolated plays and reasons how their teams are screwed every week. Of course Washington fans do this as well.
In the end, it was a hard fought game. Denver looked better early, but Washington really did take control in the second half. I think they deserved to win the game. But for sure it could have gone either way.
ETA: regarding the last play, I thought if anything, it would have been a ticky-tack call to the extreme, which I don't advocate calling in this last second situation. I think it would had to be more aggregious. But fans of both teams are obviously gonna see it differently, but my take was it was very ticky-tack and would have been a matter of refs deciding the game's outcome...but again maybe I'm biased.
CBS rules analyst Gene Steratore saw the game, saw exactly what I saw, and agrees. The referee fraternity doesn't comment on bad referee calls unless they're egregious. We'll leave it at that.
IMO, the contact by the defender significantly impacted the receiver's ability to make a play on the ball - Gene Steratore
Sorry, nothing you or Gene Steratore have said invalidates my comments. There are many calls and non-calls every game that impact the final result. In my opinion, it is not legitimate to say, "we're just take this one call (that I don't like) and ignore all the others. I gave you a specific example of where Sutton was given a catch he should not have got and that significantly impacted the Hail Mary. I don't need to ask Gene Steratore's permission to make that observation. He's not the final arbiter of this disagreement. He also isn't the final word on whether the call was correct or not. Obviously, if you don't like it, that's fine. We can agree to disagree. I'm not going to tell you to "buzz off" because we both have the right to express our opinions here. Thanks in advance for recognizing my right to disagree and debate with you on this.Buzz off with your biased homerism accusations. My comment was (and is still) just about the play itself.All day today, Denver fans will talk about this supposed DPI. Yet there will be zero talk of the fact that Sutton clearly did not get both feet down on the out route that set up the Hail Mary. Had that play been called correctly, the Hail Mary would have been much more difficult to execute.
This is the problem with fans obsessing on one pay that screws their team and proclaiming, "they definitely should have won." I haven't gone back and looked at every ref call and non-call through the whole game so I don't know if I would say one team got the breaks over the other. But I do know that it wasn't just a matter of "refs took a certain victory away from Denver because of a DPI screwjob at the end." Fans of every team pick out isolated plays and reasons how their teams are screwed every week. Of course Washington fans do this as well.
In the end, it was a hard fought game. Denver looked better early, but Washington really did take control in the second half. I think they deserved to win the game. But for sure it could have gone either way.
ETA: regarding the last play, I thought if anything, it would have been a ticky-tack call to the extreme, which I don't advocate calling in this last second situation. I think it would had to be more aggregious. But fans of both teams are obviously gonna see it differently, but my take was it was very ticky-tack and would have been a matter of refs deciding the game's outcome...but again maybe I'm biased.
CBS rules analyst Gene Steratore saw the game, saw exactly what I saw, and agrees. The referee fraternity doesn't comment on bad referee calls unless they're egregious. We'll leave it at that.
IMO, the contact by the defender significantly impacted the receiver's ability to make a play on the ball - Gene Steratore