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[Amused to Death]

nice job refs. No flags, then Payton screams at you so you throw the flag for them. if you missed the call, you can't go back and bend when teams yell at you

There was no one there.  Great call 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought grounding was called if the QB is avoiding a sack.  There was no defender near Cousins when he threw it.  Same reason spiking the ball is not IG.

 

[sho nuff]

Crappy D my ###.

Well it was til that...

 

[sho nuff]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought grounding was called if the QB is avoiding a sack.  There was no defender near Cousins when he threw it.  Same reason spiking the ball is not IG.

Nah...spiking isn’t because typically there is an eligible receiver within 5 yards or whatever.

 

[Amused to Death]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought grounding was called if the QB is avoiding a sack.  There was no defender near Cousins when he threw it.  Same reason spiking the ball is not IG.

Nah...spiking isn’t because typically there is an eligible receiver within 5 yards or whatever.

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Intentional Grounding of Forward Pass

Intentional grounding of a forward pass is a foul: loss of down and 10 yards from previous spot if passer is in the field of play or loss of down at the spot of the foul if it occurs more than 10 yards behind the line or safety if passer is in his own end zone when ball is released.

Intentional grounding will be called when a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage due to pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion.

Intentional grounding will not be called when a passer, while out of the pocket and facing an imminent loss of yardage, throws a pass that lands at or beyond the line of scrimmage, even if no offensive player(s) have a realistic chance to catch the ball (including if the ball lands out of bounds over the sideline or end line).

http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/intentionalgrounding

 

[PennStater77]

The Intentional Grounding is why Cousins will never be an elite QB. What a dumb decision. 

 

[Doug B]

At Rouses on belle chase hwy ... Thanksgiving shopping ... Saints are on TV here at store

 

[Doug B]

FG.wins here?

 

[SproutDaddy]

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Intentional Grounding of Forward Pass

Intentional grounding of a forward pass is a foul: loss of down and 10 yards from previous spot if passer is in the field of play or loss of down at the spot of the foul if it occurs more than 10 yards behind the line or safety if passer is in his own end zone when ball is released.

Intentional grounding will be called when a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage due to pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion.

Intentional grounding will not be called when a passer, while out of the pocket and facing an imminent loss of yardage, throws a pass that lands at or beyond the line of scrimmage, even if no offensive player(s) have a realistic chance to catch the ball (including if the ball lands out of bounds over the sideline or end line).

He was in the pocket.  That's why.

 

[saintfool]

FG.wins here?

yep!

 

[modogg]

not sure if this makes Skins fans feel better, but the Eagles will smack the #### out of this Saints team if they meet in the playoffs

 

[SproutDaddy]

FG.wins here?

Yep

 

[SproutDaddy]

not sure if this makes Skins fans feel better, but the Eagles will smack the #### out of this Saints team if they meet in the playoffs

We'll see.   Butthurt I see.

 

[Amused to Death]

He was in the pocket.  That's why.

So is spiking the ball.  And he was in no imminent danger of being sacked.

 

[PennStater77]

Epic collapse by Washington. 

 

[Doug B]

not sure if this makes Skins fans feel better, but the Eagles will smack the #### out of this Saints team if they meet in the playoffs

Need Vaccaro back to help on Ertz, in that scenario

 

[CabinFever]

That hurts. Ughh. 

 

[Doug B]

Ball game!

Dirt cheap, but we'll take it

 

[saintfool]

i love my saints

 

[Long Ball Larry]

####### skins.  Laces in, too.

 

[Zigg]

not sure if this makes Skins fans feel better, but the Eagles will smack the #### out of this Saints team if they meet in the playoffs

Saints played like crap and got a miracle win against the Skins in '09.  I see the season ending the same way. 

 

[Sebowski]

There was no one there.  Great call 

You are wrong. WRs run wrong routes all the time and a ball sails to no one. It isn't intentional grounding if there is no threat of a sack. Pretty simple. 

 

[SproutDaddy]

You are wrong. WRs run wrong routes all the time and a ball sails to no one. It isn't intentional grounding if there is no threat of a sack. Pretty simple. 

Both receivers ran across the field.  It was the right call.

 

[Sebowski]

Both receivers ran across the field.  It was the right call.

You have to be trolling now. This one is too easy. How about when QBs throw the ball through the uprights when a goalie play is covered? Annoucers say "great job putting it where no one can catch it". No sack pressure, no grounding. 

 

[Eights]

Any body know what happened to Doctson after his first 4 catches?

 

[Doug B]

Saints needed a cheapie. Loads of bad calls both ways.

 

[Amused to Death]

Both receivers ran across the field.  It was the right call.

You would be correct if Cousins was under pressure and he dumped it off.  He wasn't.  QBs/WRs have miscommunications all the time.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Trolling?  Good grief.  Some of you take this game too serious.  The penalty didn't affect anything.  The next play resulted in a fumble.  Hell of a game and your team lost.

 

[Amused to Death]

Trolling?  Good grief.  Some of you take this game too serious.  The penalty didn't affect anything.  The next play resulted in a fumble.  Hell of a game and your team lost.

1-10-NO 3431) (Shotgun) 8-K.Cousins pass incomplete short right. PENALTY on WAS-8-K.Cousins, Intentional Grounding, 10 yards, enforced at NO 34.

2-20-NO 4409) (Shotgun) 8-K.Cousins sacked at WAS 47 for -9 yards (48-V.Bell). FUMBLES (48-V.Bell) [48-V.Bell], recovered by WAS-76-M.Moses at WAS 44. 76-M.Moses to WAS 44 for no gain (94-C.Jordan).

 

[Doug B]

Saints lose that way a ton ... opposing fans rarely entertain the bad-calls-bad-luck stories. What's different here?

 

[Amused to Death]

Saints lose that way a ton ... opposing fans rarely entertain the bad-calls-bad-luck stories. What's different here?

Not a Washington fan, but they did get hosed on a bad call that backed them out of FG range to win the game.  

 

[Doug B]

Not a Washington fan, but they did get hosed on a bad call that backed them out of FG range to win the game.  

Then I heartily welcome the Redskins to the NFL circa 2017. Either dominate a team, or the refs decide the game.

 

[Amused to Death]

Then I heartily welcome the Redskins to the NFL circa 2017. Either dominate a team, or the refs decide the game.

I agree, but some ppl thought the play was called correctly - escalating the dialog.

 

[Sebowski]

Then I heartily welcome the Redskins to the NFL circa 2017. Either dominate a team, or the refs decide the game.

Absolutely. The Redskins had countless chances to close the game and they didn't, so they didn't deserve to win. Doesn't change that it was a bad call that may have affected the outcome. 

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

AWESOME GAME!

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

You are wrong. WRs run wrong routes all the time and a ball sails to no one. It isn't intentional grounding if there is no threat of a sack. Pretty simple. 

Drew Brees got called on that exact same play for a penalty-safety in the 2006 NFCC game.

 

[Aznflyer14]

This game was excellent to watch especially in every aspect especially special team performance from both teams.  Despite increasing injury to key players in Redskins, Cousins still produces. My thinking on him has changed since beginning of this season and I believe he is worthy of a huge contract. 

 

[Sebowski]

Drew Brees got called on that exact same play for a penalty-safety in the 2006 NFCC game.

That sucks. For the record:

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This won't really make you feel better, #Redskins fans. But two league sources say the League contacted Bruce Allen to tell him that Cousins intentional grounding call was incorrect and shouldn't have been a penalty.

7:17 PM - 19 Nov 2017

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

But two league sources say the League contacted Bruce Allen to tell him that Cousins intentional grounding call was incorrect and shouldn't have been a penalty.

Fwiw I finally got to watch this on replay (I was at the game) and I guess the dispute is the Redskins were claiming that Cousins was throwing at a receiver (Doctson IIRC), not whether the ball was before or after the line of scrimmage, right? I'm not sure I understood that originally, that makes it different than what happened to Brees in the 06 NFCC game, but still it's a bang-bang play.

 

[Sebowski]

Fwiw I finally got to watch this on replay (I was at the game) and I guess the dispute is the Redskins were claiming that Cousins was throwing at a receiver (Doctson IIRC), not whether the ball was before or after the line of scrimmage, right? I'm not sure I understood that originally, that makes it different than what happened to Brees in the 06 NFCC game, but still it's a bang-bang play.

The dispute is that you are allowed to "clock it" if a play isn't there and you aren't under pressure to be sacked. Apparently they checked off of a run in to a pass play but the WRs didn't hear it so they run blocked instead of running a route so Cousins clocked the ball out of bounds when he saw them block instead of run a route. Shouldn't have been a big deal.