We are Never Ever Ever Getting Back Together (1 Viewer)

[Black Sunshine]

other than Arian Foster, AP, peyton manning and maybe Calvin Johnson, are there any players that haven't totally boned someone a few weeks this season?There really aren't very many players that I get excited about anymore... moreso just ones i tolerate.

I have all 4 on my dynasty team.

 

[Routilla]

Sproles even though he scored twice last week.

 

[sbonomo]

No more cowboy players for me ever. 2nd the McFadden as well

 

[TwinTurbo]

I will never draft Vernon Davis again. Unless your league awards points for blocking, he was worthless in over half the games, including 3 weeks where he scored zero points. See also DeShaun Jackson.

Finley is another guy I will never draft again even though he's starting to heat up at the end of this season.

Larry Fitzgerald is a player I would target next year depending on who the Cards have at QB. He's far too talented to let this train wreck of a season continue into next year.

 

[shader]

What about players you don't roster for pure spite.

I had Boldin about three years ago, and it was week 15 or 16. He was injured all week and doubtful and not practicing. Then all of a sudden out of nowhere he plays and dominates. I lose the game but would have won the league if I had started him.

Haven't owned Boldin in any league since. Pure spite. Really I'm still angry at myself for not checking the status one last time in the pre-twitter world. But screw you Boldin!

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Round 1: McFaddenRound 2: FitzgeraldRound 3: F. JacksonRound 5: AustinAll of these.

Austin will probably end up with 1000/6. Drafted this year As a wr2/wr3, I'll take that.

 

[Not Sleeping]

McFadden and Mathews. Period. Done. End of story.

Well...except McFadden could actually be pretty good if he falls far enough in the draft and has the right blocking scheme, coaching staff, and offensive line.

But Mathews...never again. No way, no how. Finito.

Hmm...but Norv and AJ are leaving. Maybe if I could grab him in the 3rd round...dammit!

 

[elbowrm]

- i usually don't draft black quarterbacks

Rush is that you?My take on DMC is that the major problem was the fact that he didn't have a clear-cut handcuff at draft time and then Goodson got hurt in the same game, and then it was a crapshoot whether you got Reece or not. In the past, the DMC/M Bush combo was gold, and DMC/insert clear #2 here could be so again - IF the ZBS is gone this offseason.

 

[Sabertooth]

1. Aaron Rodgers - grossly over-rated and plays for a coach who hates to throw the ball. And he doesn't run the ball anymore because he's no longer hungry. No thanks. Not even with a discount double take. I can get any old QB from the waiver wire that goes 6 straight games with under 290 yards passing and weeks 12-14 with an average of less than 1 TD pass per game.

2. Jordy Nelson - Without a doubt the biggest piece of glass in the entire NFL. He was injured twice this season in the opening minutes of a game and never returned, both to hamstring injuries, and one of those injuries occurred when he wasn't even touched!!! And only 4 games with a TD?? Once again, I can get that from the Free Agent scrap heep.

3. Jermichael Finley - The only year he wasn't a bust was the year I didn't have him. So I'm sure he'll break out next season.

Great ideas.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Vernon Davis...although I don't hate him because I was able to pawn him for Leshoure.

Larry Fitz....NEVER NEVER NEVER again!

Brandon Lloyd....disappeared most of the season and blows up on my bench when I could have used him.

Darren McFadden....though reality is I'll come back for more punishment, you know that I will.

Disagree with the bolded...It's really not his fault. If they get even a mediocre QB he has a shot to turn things around.the rest I agree with

I'd like to add Hakeem Nicks, Darren McFadden and Reggie Bush.

Kenny Britt was on this list but something inside me can't give up yet.

Nothing against any of them... but having owned almost all of them at one time or another... I simply never felt comfortable any week having them in there.

Always worried about injurys or bad things happening.

 

[donkshow]

I would like to try and get Fitz next year with a value pick. However, on name alone he'll go earlier than I'd be comfortable taking him (barring a big QB signing).

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Larry Fitz....NEVER NEVER NEVER again!

Disagree with the bolded...It's really not his fault. If they get even a mediocre QB he has a shot to turn things around.

Lot of people sticking up for poor Larry F. I can't disagree with the logic. Honestly never owned Fitz in his entire career till this year. And he threw up stinker after stinker. I had the chance to pick up the likes of Alexander and Shorts and bench Fitz, but I was loyal to the end. I think my reasoning for never again drafting Fitz is illogical blind spite. Like others have mentioned, holding a grudge against the likes of Anquon Boldin and even Kurt Warner! Some of you in here really know how to hold a grudge.Fitz should be great value if they ever get a QB in zona, though. But I will stay away.

 

[Shutout]

Larry Fitz....NEVER NEVER NEVER again!

Disagree with the bolded...It's really not his fault. If they get even a mediocre QB he has a shot to turn things around.

Lot of people sticking up for poor Larry F. I can't disagree with the logic. Honestly never owned Fitz in his entire career till this year. And he threw up stinker after stinker. I had the chance to pick up the likes of Alexander and Shorts and bench Fitz, but I was loyal to the end. I think my reasoning for never again drafting Fitz is illogical blind spite. Like others have mentioned, holding a grudge against the likes of Anquon Boldin and even Kurt Warner! Some of you in here really know how to hold a grudge.Fitz should be great value if they ever get a QB in zona, though. But I will stay away.

No kidding. I saw that one on Kurt warner and I was like "dude! He hasn't even played in three years...let it go!" But then I remembered I sat on my couch this weekend lamenting on why Fitz was in football hell and then cursed the NFL Network commercial when Kurt popped his mug on there. "It's all your fault, Kurt!" I yelled. "You could still be out there!".So...yeah...LOL.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Have to say that most of the players being listed so far are ones I would love to grab as potential value picks next year.

this. My only rule is don't get burned with the first two picks. I took Calvin at 1.5 and Marshawn in the 2nd round and it was a solid base for my team all year. After that, it's all about value. Head cases? I'll take my chances with a Dez Bryant and Kenny Britt for their upside, thank you very much? Cam? If he slips are you kidding me? On my roster. Scoring insane points. This year more than any there have been so many let downs. Rodgers, Brees, Vick, Newton for the first half, Ryan for the 2nd half, DMC, McCoy, Mathews, CJK2 - almost more letdowns than surprises. Somebody has to get drafted in the first two rounds..

You guys are missing the point. You'll never grab them as value picks because someone, somewhere will still draft them highly. This thread is more about identifying the guys that the consensus more knowledgeable owners have identified as never again. We all know there are people out there that will chase the big names. But we, here, can mark some guys off the list that aren't worth it anymore. Guys with just too much history and, thus,....never again. I know... You guys will say " I'll take DMAC and get value." The rest of us will just point you back to the same threads people have been debating for several seasons. You guys are swinging for the fences. But that's the downside. You swing for DMAC and you get...well...DMAC. Some of us are just saying "go ahead...take him..and Finley and Vernon and all those others. We will sleep better at night with our Antonio browns and doug martins. It's preference but surely even you guys have some guys in mind that you are just fed up with.

I will be the first to say guys like McFadden, Nicks, Jermichael, Mathews and many others HAVE talent and will show signs of it everytime they are on the field... but one thing or another either keeps them off the field or keeps them from being consistent. It's not that I 'hate them and never want them on my team again because they suck!!!' type of situation. It's that I've owned most of them multiple times and had to manage them week to week enough times to realize they aren't reliable.It's not that I hate the players, but when they become 'good value' in drafts I will be looking at other options. for instance next year I'm guessing McFadden's ADP will end up somewhere around Ridley, Leshoure, Gore, Morris Etc ... Another example would be Nicks next year vs Reggie Wayne or Roddy White. Nicks will almost surely have a higher ADP.. but I'm taking Wayne and Roddy everytime. Not worth the hassle swinging for the fences, at least not for me.Now if you told me I could get McFadden in the 7th or 8th round next year? sure, sign me up. Never putting myself in a position to count on him though

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Larry Fitz....NEVER NEVER NEVER again!

Disagree with the bolded...It's really not his fault. If they get even a mediocre QB he has a shot to turn things around.

Lot of people sticking up for poor Larry F. I can't disagree with the logic. Honestly never owned Fitz in his entire career till this year. And he threw up stinker after stinker. I had the chance to pick up the likes of Alexander and Shorts and bench Fitz, but I was loyal to the end. I think my reasoning for never again drafting Fitz is illogical blind spite. Like others have mentioned, holding a grudge against the likes of Anquon Boldin and even Kurt Warner! Some of you in here really know how to hold a grudge.Fitz should be great value if they ever get a QB in zona, though. But I will stay away.

No kidding. I saw that one on Kurt warner and I was like "dude! He hasn't even played in three years...let it go!" But then I remembered I sat on my couch this weekend lamenting on why Fitz was in football hell and then cursed the NFL Network commercial when Kurt popped his mug on there. "It's all your fault, Kurt!" I yelled. "You could still be out there!".So...yeah...LOL.

Don't get me wrong ... If I don't see major changes by next year he will be on this list, but unlike everyone else people are mentioning, Fitzgerald has been a consistent week to week stud before. So he probably belongs on this list as long as the Cardinals neglect the QB situation, but it isn't indicative of the player he is.

Much like Steve Smith in Carolina or Reggie Wayne in Indy, getting Fitzgerald even a mediocre option at QB will bring him back to fantasy prominence.

 

[Shutout]

Larry Fitz....NEVER NEVER NEVER again!

Disagree with the bolded...It's really not his fault. If they get even a mediocre QB he has a shot to turn things around.

Lot of people sticking up for poor Larry F. I can't disagree with the logic. Honestly never owned Fitz in his entire career till this year. And he threw up stinker after stinker. I had the chance to pick up the likes of Alexander and Shorts and bench Fitz, but I was loyal to the end. I think my reasoning for never again drafting Fitz is illogical blind spite. Like others have mentioned, holding a grudge against the likes of Anquon Boldin and even Kurt Warner! Some of you in here really know how to hold a grudge.Fitz should be great value if they ever get a QB in zona, though. But I will stay away.

No kidding. I saw that one on Kurt warner and I was like "dude! He hasn't even played in three years...let it go!" But then I remembered I sat on my couch this weekend lamenting on why Fitz was in football hell and then cursed the NFL Network commercial when Kurt popped his mug on there. "It's all your fault, Kurt!" I yelled. "You could still be out there!".So...yeah...LOL.

Don't get me wrong ... If I don't see major changes by next year he will be on this list, but unlike everyone else people are mentioning, Fitzgerald has been a consistent week to week stud before. So he probably belongs on this list as long as the Cardinals neglect the QB situation, but it isn't indicative of the player he is.

Much like Steve Smith in Carolina or Reggie Wayne in Indy, getting Fitzgerald even a mediocre option at QB will bring him back to fantasy prominence.

Totally agree. I had mentioned somewhere above about fitz still being worth it...very situation dependent with his QB and line. You make a really good comparative example in Reggie Wayne. I know his age clouded the issue moreso than it would if he were 29 but following last season, he was a "WR2/3" to most people. The general public SEVERELY underestimated how bad that QB position was and what it did to Wayne. That's Fitz's situation this year. Of course, the cards probably won't pull in an Andrew Luck but Fitz has shown,even with mediocre talent at QB to be a top WR. So, yeah, if they do anything that allows me to talk myself up on this one, I continue to own Fitz. He's just too good.

Now back to my guy for a minute, Vernon Davis. I just Don't have a clue on this one. It really looks like he has every possible thing going for him that would suggest the Niners, IF THEY WANTED TO (or had enough recognition), could make him a force in the passing game that created problems for opponents similar to the kinds that Hernandez and Graham and Gonzo create. But for whatever reason they don't.

I tell ya, I'm looking at this game against the Pats and I can't see how even the Niners won't wake up and understand that the middle of the field is Vernon's all night long. But with that being said, he will be on my bench unless an injury forces me to use him. In short, i expect a really good game from Vernon this week but can't trust him, so I'll lose out on that.

Its probably a pipe dream but if Vernon could find himself in Washington, I think he would have a handful of years looking like Shannon Sharpe. Sometimes it IS the coaching.

 

[bagger]

Ok, so you're One and Done and so much for that #1 seed, that total points championship, that 6-0 start and all that other stuff that means absolutely nothing come Sunday when you have NO action on the line.

So who's to blame? It can't be you, right? After all, you did your homework! You read the FBG boards. You argued convincingly and absolutely why this was DMAC's year, why Donald Brown was the "sneaky" RB2, why Julio was going to dethrone Calvin (and forget that AJ Green guy cause everyone knows Julio is in the better situation). You were smart. You ignored those old WRs like Reggie Wayne and AJ. You let someone else take on that injury risk extrordinaire Adrian Peterson.

There is blame to be cast here, people so let's get to it:

Who's your list of players you will never (ever ever) draft again?

Here's Mine: VERNON DAVIS

I just don't have the stomach to accomodate things that have no logical explanation. I live in a much neater and sorted black-and-white world. I need things wrapped up nicely and put in their box. Regardless of whether its a Rolex or rubbish, I need to know what I've got. I don't have that with my fake relationship with Vernon Davis and so...it's over. He says he'll show up...but he doesn't. Then he drops in unannounced, when I least expect it, and wants to do something for me. I don't operate like that Vern. You gotta go.

lee evans.i know he is no longer relevant but if he has a magical comeback and he is there in the last round...f that guy i am drafting phil dawson.

 

[dickey moe]

i usually don't draft black quarterbacks

What?

 

[Shutout]

Ok, so you're One and Done and so much for that #1 seed, that total points championship, that 6-0 start and all that other stuff that means absolutely nothing come Sunday when you have NO action on the line.

So who's to blame? It can't be you, right? After all, you did your homework! You read the FBG boards. You argued convincingly and absolutely why this was DMAC's year, why Donald Brown was the "sneaky" RB2, why Julio was going to dethrone Calvin (and forget that AJ Green guy cause everyone knows Julio is in the better situation). You were smart. You ignored those old WRs like Reggie Wayne and AJ. You let someone else take on that injury risk extrordinaire Adrian Peterson.

There is blame to be cast here, people so let's get to it:

Who's your list of players you will never (ever ever) draft again?

Here's Mine: VERNON DAVIS

I just don't have the stomach to accomodate things that have no logical explanation. I live in a much neater and sorted black-and-white world. I need things wrapped up nicely and put in their box. Regardless of whether its a Rolex or rubbish, I need to know what I've got. I don't have that with my fake relationship with Vernon Davis and so...it's over. He says he'll show up...but he doesn't. Then he drops in unannounced, when I least expect it, and wants to do something for me. I don't operate like that Vern. You gotta go.

lee evans.i know he is no longer relevant but if he has a magical comeback and he is there in the last round...f that guy i am drafting phil dawson.

*shudders* Oh that hurts! That guy was my personal kryptonite, from a different slant. I never owned him and he seemed to never do anything EXCEPT the days I played against him when he would ALWAYS roll out a monster game. That guy killed me constantly.

 

[Cookiemonster]

i usually don't draft black quarterbacks

What?

I typically avoided Native American QBs, but that Bradford kid has some upside. You won't catch me with a Chinese QB, EVAH!Anquan Boldin. He just hates me. I don't care how good of a season he has, when I start him, he sucks. When I bench him, he does great. I traded him a couple years ago because of it, and got him back as a throw in this year and he still hates me. Lance Moore is just the opposite for me. He could have a bad season, but when I need him in my lineup he's gonna get 90 and a score.

 

[Shutout]

Any chance ANYBODY other than Ryan Matthews goes to the top of this list??

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Larry Fitz....NEVER NEVER NEVER again!

Disagree with the bolded...It's really not his fault. If they get even a mediocre QB he has a shot to turn things around.

Lot of people sticking up for poor Larry F. I can't disagree with the logic. Honestly never owned Fitz in his entire career till this year. And he threw up stinker after stinker. I had the chance to pick up the likes of Alexander and Shorts and bench Fitz, but I was loyal to the end. I think my reasoning for never again drafting Fitz is illogical blind spite. Like others have mentioned, holding a grudge against the likes of Anquon Boldin and even Kurt Warner! Some of you in here really know how to hold a grudge.Fitz should be great value if they ever get a QB in zona, though. But I will stay away.

No kidding. I saw that one on Kurt warner and I was like "dude! He hasn't even played in three years...let it go!" But then I remembered I sat on my couch this weekend lamenting on why Fitz was in football hell and then cursed the NFL Network commercial when Kurt popped his mug on there. "It's all your fault, Kurt!" I yelled. "You could still be out there!".So...yeah...LOL.

Don't get me wrong ... If I don't see major changes by next year he will be on this list, but unlike everyone else people are mentioning, Fitzgerald has been a consistent week to week stud before. So he probably belongs on this list as long as the Cardinals neglect the QB situation, but it isn't indicative of the player he is.

Much like Steve Smith in Carolina or Reggie Wayne in Indy, getting Fitzgerald even a mediocre option at QB will bring him back to fantasy prominence.

Totally agree. I had mentioned somewhere above about fitz still being worth it...very situation dependent with his QB and line. You make a really good comparative example in Reggie Wayne. I know his age clouded the issue moreso than it would if he were 29 but following last season, he was a "WR2/3" to most people. The general public SEVERELY underestimated how bad that QB position was and what it did to Wayne. That's Fitz's situation this year. Of course, the cards probably won't pull in an Andrew Luck but Fitz has shown,even with mediocre talent at QB to be a top WR. So, yeah, if they do anything that allows me to talk myself up on this one, I continue to own Fitz. He's just too good.

Now back to my guy for a minute, Vernon Davis. I just Don't have a clue on this one. It really looks like he has every possible thing going for him that would suggest the Niners, IF THEY WANTED TO (or had enough recognition), could make him a force in the passing game that created problems for opponents similar to the kinds that Hernandez and Graham and Gonzo create. But for whatever reason they don't.

I tell ya, I'm looking at this game against the Pats and I can't see how even the Niners won't wake up and understand that the middle of the field is Vernon's all night long. But with that being said, he will be on my bench unless an injury forces me to use him. In short, i expect a really good game from Vernon this week but can't trust him, so I'll lose out on that.

Its probably a pipe dream but if Vernon could find himself in Washington, I think he would have a handful of years looking like Shannon Sharpe. Sometimes it IS the coaching.

The Vernon Davis situation blows my mind...I would still want him on my roster... but only as my #2 TE.

The problem is the way 49ers O is rolling now, they aren't being punished for nothing using him.

To be honest, I haven't really paid attention to Davis much this year, is he a fantastic blocker or something? There has to be a reason they keep him in to block and neglect him in the passing game.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Any chance ANYBODY other than Ryan Matthews goes to the top of this list??

Haha, McFadden looked just good enough so that his ADP will be high next year... seems Mathews expectations will be much lower heading into next year.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Dentist throwing in that he never drafts black QB's really didn't get enough negative attention here. Disappointing.

 

[cracKer]

If history has taught us anything, Arian Foster should be at the top of the DO NOT DRAFT list for next year