BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Cowboys
both s/b Top 6 for the Week but DAL s/b more disruptive
but Packers have a relatively dysfunctional offense YTD and I don't think this is the week they get it together
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Week 08 2022 who should I start thread **OFFICIALLY UNOFFICIAL** (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Chaka
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Cowboys
both s/b Top 6 for the Week but DAL s/b more disruptive
but Packers have a relatively dysfunctional offense YTD and I don't think this is the week they get it together
I'm all ready to consider Fields as my default starting QB, but of he's playing in Dallas so I'm not sure how concerned I should be about that matchup
My QB options are these, with 4 pts for a passing TD and 6 for a rushing TD:
JFields @ DAL
JGoff vs MIA
RWilson vs JAX in London
PJ Walker @ ATL
I think Goff is the call at home versus MIA with ARSB and Swift hopefully healthy, but boy he was bad last week
My QB options are these, with 4 pts for a passing TD and 6 for a rushing TD:
JFields @ DAL
JGoff vs MIA
RWilson vs JAX in London
PJ Walker @ ATL
I think Goff is the call at home versus MIA with ARSB and Swift hopefully healthy, but boy he was bad last week
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
TE
Hill will always be boom/bust TD dependent but he's the far better upside play
5 (max 3 RB):
- Henry
- CMC
- Chubb (these 3 are all Top 5 no-brainer options IMO)
Jones>Pollard but I wouldn't have either over your Top 3
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Hurts over Tua, and I don't think it's close
- Mixon
- AJ Brown
- AJ/ETN - coin flip
- ETN/AJ - coin flip
- Lamb
- Godwin (oops hope you sat him)
- Swift
themeistersinger
Footballguy
Full PPR. Start 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 Flex.
RB - Nick Chubb home vs Bengals (Monday night)
RB - Rhamondre Stevenson at Jets
RB - Tony Pollard home vs Bears (Zeke possibly out / possibly in)
WR - Cooper Kupp home vs 49ers
WR - CeeDee Lamb home vs Bears
WR - Chris Olave home vs Raiders (Andy Dalton starting)
WR - Courtland Sutton at Jaguars (in London, Russell Wilson starting)
WR - Tyler Boyd at Browns (Monday night - Chase out)
WR - George Pickens at Eagles
RB - Nick Chubb home vs Bengals (Monday night)
RB - Rhamondre Stevenson at Jets
RB - Tony Pollard home vs Bears (Zeke possibly out / possibly in)
WR - Cooper Kupp home vs 49ers
WR - CeeDee Lamb home vs Bears
WR - Chris Olave home vs Raiders (Andy Dalton starting)
WR - Courtland Sutton at Jaguars (in London, Russell Wilson starting)
WR - Tyler Boyd at Browns (Monday night - Chase out)
WR - George Pickens at Eagles
I don't think you can risk Herbert against DAL
With Russ back I think I still give the slight edge to his favorite target Sutton over Robinson in a game that might be a Barkley-fest, but it's close enough that if you prefer the SEA matchup I won't blame you for going with Wan'Dale
habsfan
Footballguy
It's a coin flip for me on Wan'Dale and Sutton. I just have this feeling the Sunday morning game is going to give me exactly what I should have expected - in a bad way.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
I think I lean Wan'Dale as well. I don't trust the London games like I don't trust TNF. Seems like something always goes sideways or the final score is like 9-6.
Chaka
Footballguy
I don't want to overstate the impact of the Dallas defense, particularly because Fields is so unconventional. Maybe this season turns in to Jalen Hurst 2021, which was difficult to defend and Phili really turned their season around when they committed to the run. I don't think the Bears can win but I think Fields may not have a terrible day.
No Wilson
No PJ
I mean, you never know but how could you possibly roll either out there this week. If I was forced to I would probably go with PJ>Wilson mostly because of the matchup.
But you don't have to make that decision because you have...Goff??? I don't want to suddenly become a Lions offense fatalist but I am emotionally scarred after the last two games. They were road games against a solid opponent (NE) and a very good one in Dallas. In three home games this season the Lions have put up 35, 36 & 45 points. Goff had has thrown 2, 4, & 4 TDs in his four home games with an average of 281 yards passing, it's a big range in yardage, though from 215 to 378, but he has definitely been incredibly effective at home. I hope this week we learn that Goff is a must start at home and a must bench on the road (Heaven forbid the Lions find consistency and start winning games). Against an average defense like Miami there is plenty of reason to be optimistic. I just wish I could be confidently optimistic.
Goff>Fields>PJ>Wilson
Chaka
Footballguy
I don't see this as being particularly difficult IMO, and I imagine you are comfortable with most of your calls. If Zeke is out your roster is set IMO.
Chubb, Pollard, Cupp, CeeDee, Boyd & Pollard
If Zeke plays, it is a little more cloudy but I may still go with Pollard. I hate predicting game script but I am a little better trying to call outcomes and I think the Cowboys will win. So now I am considering if they can win handily enough to allow Pollard to carry more of the load than Zeke? Calling that is a dicey game that I think is mostly a fools errand, but I get the logic.
So the question is if Zeke is out who do you roll out there? The only one I really would consider is Chris Olave. Denver needs to prove they can score and, while I like Pickens a lot Olave is likely in line for more targets against a lesser defense in a winnable game. With the likelihood Thomas and Landry are, frustratingly, out again. In fact I could easily make the argument that he should be in ahead of Boyd. The only reason I slot Boyd ahead of Olave is Joe Burrow>>>>Andy Dalton. But if you like Olave, absolutely roll him out over Boyd.
So until we know about Zeke for sure I say:
Boyd>Olave>Pollard*
Chaka
Footballguy
I have all three on my roster and may have to play two of them. I have given this a lot of thought and ATM.
The Charger game looks like an aberration. The Broncos have been consistently feeding Sutton, Wilson more effectively than Rypien so in a PPR, I think he has a safe enough floor of maybe 5-60-0 with some upside if, Heaven forbid the Broncos remember how to play offensive football again.
I wish I had more info on Wan'Dale but I do like what I saw last week and I don't seem much competition for targets. It's a low volume offense but...bigger piece of smaller pie and all that. Because of the matchup I could also talk myself into Wan'Dale over Sutton but not right now.
Love Herbert and maybe the Bears build on Monday night but, having other options I can't roll him out with that matchup.
Sutton>Wan'Dale>Herbert
Chaka
Footballguy
Signed,
Everyone with a Bronco in their starting lineup.
eighsse2
Footballguy
I'm with you and Bobby after thinking about it. 6 pt passing TD's, 300yd bonus, facing the Lions, it all just screams "TUA!". But Jalen with the rushing yards ... goalline TD opportunities ... No. Can't pass that up. Going with Jalen. Thanks guys.
eighsse2
Footballguy
I did decide to start Godwin. Considering a lot of the performances I've had in my lineup this year ... perfectly happy with that result. Thanks for the insights, both you and Bobby!Considering your RB options I have no problem saying Mixon & Etienne should be locks.
Sorry I missed out on responding before last night but I still would have said AJ & CeeDee over Godwin.
If you still need a flex, personally I would assume the risk for the rewards and start Swift over Jones. I could very easily argue in favor of Jones but in Buffalo and struggling like they are, it's tough to roll out any Packer this week (watch them go into Buffalo and win now).
The Lions have been ashow the last two games. But they were both tough roadies, the offense is healthy and during their three home games they have put up pinball numbers. Swift may get hurt in the opening snap but he carries no designation and has proven to be a big play machine when given the opportunity.
Mixon>Etienne>Swift>Jones
AJ>CeeDee>Godwin
Swift>Godwin>Jones
Probably going Hurts, Mixon, Etienne, Brown, Lamb, [Godwin]crushedspirit
Footballguy
Pittman or Herbert in my flex spot, standard scoring.
Big question marks for both, but Herbert has the more difficult matchup, and of course his playing time shared with Monty. Rookie QB starting for Indy, so nobody knows where he goes with his passes.
Leaning Pittman's way for now, but it's a close one.
Big question marks for both, but Herbert has the more difficult matchup, and of course his playing time shared with Monty. Rookie QB starting for Indy, so nobody knows where he goes with his passes.
Leaning Pittman's way for now, but it's a close one.
efactor
Footballguy
The Dalton matchup at home looks pretty good. Vegas has a crappy pass D but should score a lot of points so Dalton will have to chuck the ball a lot
The only negative is it's Andy Dalton
Chaka
Footballguy
PPR?
I am essentially fading Pitts until further notice. Here is what I said about Dulchich v Pitts earlier (apologies in advance as it isn't very helpful)
Dulcich in London with the possible return of Russell Wilson is tough to bank on and I have no idea what to do about Pitts ATM. I mean, how can he be so completely ignored in this offense? At this point, regardless of what we think about him as an athlete we have to accept his current production as a fact and just shake our heads when he actually does something interesting.
However...
Taysom Hill was part of that question and I absolutely would go with his upside. Between Dulcich & Pitts it's so much more difficult. We know nothing about Dulcich or how he fits into the scheme, particularly with Wilson around. How could you we possibly trust that against someone who, despite shockingly low usage is an incredibly talented player? In retrospect, I simply can't. It's a decent matchup and Dulcich is too much of an unknown.
Pitts>Dulcich
efactor
Footballguy
Thanks
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
PPR
Flex spot
Devonta Smith vs. PIT
or
Eno Benjamin @ MIN
Flex spot
Devonta Smith vs. PIT
or
Eno Benjamin @ MIN
efactor
Footballguy
I just don't see how Shakir isn't the starting slot receiver sooner than later. McKenzie is just a gadget type player. Some coaches just seem adverse to starting rookies unless they are top of the draft kind of guys. If he gets the starting job, way more value than Doubs IMO.
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Does Parsons being OUT swing the start over to the Buffalo DEF?
I would think so. I’ll keep an eye on his status.
Thanks for the thoughts GB
A "who would you drop" question.
Need a kicker. I always drop my kicker and wait as long as possible to drop for the kicker each week to see how injuries/late week waiver wonders/etc pan out. But now have to ditch somebody. Options:
* J. Fields -- Rolling with D. Carr this week, but LOVE Field's matchups next three weeks -- MIA, DET, @ATL. The Fields breakout could happen. Additionally, my opponent next week without a doubt needs a QB. Don't love handing him over AND missing out on having him.
* AJ Dillon -- He's buried deep on my bench. Also own A. Jones and tired of that duo. That said, a juicy matchup vs. DET next week and I've got a ton of bye issues. Who knows.
* I. Pacheco -- On bye. May be the nominal starter but does that mean much?
Which?
Thanks
Need a kicker. I always drop my kicker and wait as long as possible to drop for the kicker each week to see how injuries/late week waiver wonders/etc pan out. But now have to ditch somebody. Options:
* J. Fields -- Rolling with D. Carr this week, but LOVE Field's matchups next three weeks -- MIA, DET, @ATL. The Fields breakout could happen. Additionally, my opponent next week without a doubt needs a QB. Don't love handing him over AND missing out on having him.
* AJ Dillon -- He's buried deep on my bench. Also own A. Jones and tired of that duo. That said, a juicy matchup vs. DET next week and I've got a ton of bye issues. Who knows.
* I. Pacheco -- On bye. May be the nominal starter but does that mean much?
Which?
Thanks
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Oh, wow - has no idea. Yeah they still have a good D but that will def have an impact.
Aside - Just realized I’m playing the Dallas owner this week. He lost Chase yesterday. But whatever, I’m down two starters myself - crazy number of injuries the past couple weeks..
Chaka
Footballguy
I think you have to go with Eno with the news that Conner is out. I mean, right? I like Devonta a lot, he can have double digit target days and the Steelers secondary is hurting. But they were hurting against the Bucs and they were hurting (a little less) against the Dolphins. DeVonta has the capacity for huge games but, when you have a very nice alternative, and I think you do, I don't want to rely on that.
Eno got 17 opportunities against the Saints and, on paper, the Vikings defense is worse. He also gets plenty of work in the passing game.
Eno>DeVonta
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
easy choice IMO - been pretty close 3-way split on snaps and none of them will become the guy IMO. Let it be someone else’s problem.
Chaka
Footballguy
I think Fields/Carr makes a nice streaming option so I would also be hesitant to drop, particularly with the potential for increased production in the running game.
Dillon seems to be falling out of favor or...IDK, 10 total touches (no targets) in 2 of the last 3 games and he hasn't shown any upside. The upside is he is one injury away from...less mediocrity.
Betting on the Chiefs running game is probably a fools errand. Barring injuries (probably multiple injuries) it's hard to see any of the getting a ton of opportunities (or even a consistent dozen) any given week. Now they add Toney so...more passing? IDK
I probably drop Pacheco but that isn't said with any confidence.
Chaka
Footballguy
Where is Parsons listed as out? Everything I have read said it's a shoulder and he is almost certain to play.
OLB Sam Williams is trending towards out.
And, yes no Parsons makes me more confident in calling Buffalo over Dallas.
I am dropping Dalton for Goff for my bye week fill in this week.
Thanks.
Another benefit: If I time the drop right, I could pick up a C. York (Monday night). If I'm either up or down big I could just drop York and go grab Pacheco who should clear since he's on bye.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
The only one who doesn't have any sort of injury or situational concern (Mac Jones) is DeVonta.
Considering the nature of Metcalf's injury, he didn't return to the game and he's a GTD I am very wary of him despite his monster potential.
Jakobi is simply a lesser option than the other three. Compared to Lockett & DeVonta he gets over 2 fewer targets, about 2 fewer receptions &15 fewer yards on a per game basis. He has a matchup that's difficult to predict but it seems tough on paper and there is the potentially, maybe, some issues with Mac Jones. I'll pass.
Lockett is also a GTD which makes me wary, though his injury didn't seem as severe as Metcalf's, and, on paper the Giants have been great against opposing WRs and the Steelers have not.
It's a bit of a coin toss between Lockett & DeVonta but I think I have to comfortably lean:
DeVonta>Lockett>GTD>Meyers
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Probably fair, although I somehow overlooked the fact that ekeler is on bye, so Benjamin will be my RB2.
And now the decision at flex is
Devonta Smith vs PIT
OR
Antonio Gibson @ IND
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Pollard is a projected RB1 this week and Stephenson dominated the RB snaps, those two have the best floor
ARI @ MIN s/b a shootout, at least on paper it is, and Eno is having a productive year with Conners injury. Lower floor, higher ceiling, borderline RB2/Flex. D'Onta is again playing well and makes a decent flex.
Decent options but I'd roll with Tony & Rhamondre.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Aw, a kindred spirit. That is gross af brother.
(for my Flex I'm choosing between K.J. Osborn, Kalif Raymond and Tyquan Thornton lol)
Doubs is outside the circle of trust, Wilson is backing up an elite back, Moore might cede some snaps to Robbie Anderson. Probably a coin flip between the two receivers, and I like the Cardinals matchup best.
Moore > Doubs >>>> nope
elitzer
Footballguy
I need to sstart one of these in a 12 man ppr league. I know they are ugly but need 1. My choices are aj dillion vs buffalo or james cook vs gb. They have not been getting aj dillion involved recently and as for oook. I am hoping ecause the spread is 10 1/.2 against gb that the may use cook to run out clock more. I am torn. nothing on waiver wire and i took a big fat 0 for rashod bateman this thursday. thanks in advance
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Chaka
Footballguy
I really like how Washington deployed Antonio Gibson did last week and he was very productive with his opportunities. He may have increasing value going forward, if he is supplanting JD McKissic as the primary receiving back. My only hesitation is the sample size, last Sunday he out snapped McKissic 29-12 and out touched him 14-3. Good news. However the week before, with Robinson still the lead back, Gibson and McKissic were almost a 50:50 in snaps, though Gibson did out touch him 9-5. All that is to say, I would like to wait a week before deciding what to think about Gibson.
Fortunately in DeVonta you have a weekly 7 target guy with double digit upside and is as likely to house a long TD as any WR in the league. And he has a plus matchup so:
DeVonta>Gibson
Chaka
Footballguy
I think you still need to wait on Zeke's status before you can really decide.
Good with starting Swift, even with the risk he carries and Eno got a big bump for sure but, if Zeke is out Pollard gets a bigger bump IMO.
I still like Stevenson but, I think there is enough uncertainty that both Eno & Pollard would jump him if they are the #1 RBs this week. I may even be shifting my opinion of Stevenson>Foreman a little bit since, IIRC, you are in a standard scoring league which mitigates Stevenson's receiving bump (besides Foreman turned two targets into two catches for 27 yards last week so, even that may not be as big a deal as I originally thought. Heck Foreman averaged 13.7 ypc on 9 catches last year and the Panthers throw to their backs a lot more than the Titans). Foreman comes with a bigger risk than Stevenson just because we all think the Panthers are going to fall back to Earth at some point and stink out loud. But, it's a crazy league and you never know.
So,
Eno>Pollard*>Foreman>Stevenson
Gross AF indeed LOL...I could pick up a scrap too....I''l have to see and maybe make a last minute add
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Pickens
Chaka
Footballguy
Oh man, tough call. I don't think you can go with Wilson with trade rumors swirling. He is a guy I would consider making a move for in magic football, like Kareem Hunt, because of the trade possibility but starting him this week seems like a bad idea.
As a frustrated, former, Doubs manager I want to say no outright. When Rodgers says that players who make mistakes shouldn't be on the field I think Doubs may be one of the guys he's talking about. But, with no Lazard...IDK I think he will still get 4-8 targets. Christian Watson looms large, and maybe Sammy Watkins, but the Pack will likely need to pass a bunch tomorrow so Doubs may be in line for some work.
Rondale has a great matchup and I would immediately say he's your guy but, two targets last week? What's that all about? I know Hopkins is a big deal but, really? Still I think he is also a guy who could see 4-8 targets, with a better matchup.
Rondale>Doubs>Wilson
Chaka
Footballguy
I can see why starting Swift and Jamaal feels like a difficult decision but, IMO barring a series of bizarre fluke plays, the potential RB output of Detroit as a unit far surpasses anything you could possibly get from Gordon & Hines combined.
Williams>Gordon>Hines
FFPC gives the TEs some added value (IIRC) but...I still think you have to go with Williams. It is highly unlikely Swift will carry anything even resembling a full RB#1 work load. Honestly he's a CoP back who starts. Jamaal is still probably in line for maybe 15 opportunities (he can catch too) and will get any goal line opportunities.
Everyone else is simply too upredictable.
Jamaal>Schultz>Jones/Dulcich
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