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Week 10 - Buy Low/ Sell High (1 Viewer)

Anybody thinking about moving Lacy?  Green Bay's O just seems to be in a funk, and part of it is MM getting a little too cute at the GL.

What would you expect his value to be in a trade?

 
wormburner said:
Anybody thinking about moving Lacy?  Green Bay's O just seems to be in a funk, and part of it is MM getting a little too cute at the GL.

What would you expect his value to be in a trade?
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maybe a WR3/4 or another middling RB like Hill.  I was thinking Gore but that might be paying too much.  I think Lacy has a higher ceiling and lower floor than Gore.

 
I think Jordan Howard is a prime sell high candidate. I was thinking of doing it this week even before his lackluster performance due to the hard schedule coming up. He's had 3 good games against terrible defenses and with Carey coming back, his touches look like they will drop a bit. I don't think the gamescripts will work in his favor too much more this season either.

 
Bucsfan5493 said:
I think Jordan Howard is a prime sell high candidate. I was thinking of doing it this week even before his lackluster performance due to the hard schedule coming up. He's had 3 good games against terrible defenses and with Carey coming back, his touches look like they will drop a bit. I don't think the gamescripts will work in his favor too much more this season either.
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Was actually thinking of trading Howard for say, Allen Robinson (buy low).

 
Anybody else thinking of selling high on CMike? 3 good weeks in a row. I'm concerned about this running style (or lack thereof). Generally RBs who hit the turbo button as soon as they get the ball don't end up being good backs (Le'Veon Bell is the exact opposite with his patience). I'm becoming more concerned that Rawls may actually win the job back, despite the box scores.

 
kyoun1e said:
Was actually thinking of trading Howard for say, Allen Robinson (buy low).
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I dumped Howard and Sammie Coates for Brandon Marshall last week and am feeling great about it (despite Jets QB situation)

 
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Tommy Collins said:
Anybody else thinking of selling high on CMike? 3 good weeks in a row. I'm concerned about this running style (or lack thereof). Generally RBs who hit the turbo button as soon as they get the ball don't end up being good backs (Le'Veon Bell is the exact opposite with his patience). I'm becoming more concerned that Rawls may actually win the job back, despite the box scores.
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Wonder what he could fetch? I'm inclined to hold because I think his perceived value is way lower than his actual value.

 
Tommy Collins said:
Anybody else thinking of selling high on CMike? 3 good weeks in a row. I'm concerned about this running style (or lack thereof). Generally RBs who hit the turbo button as soon as they get the ball don't end up being good backs (Le'Veon Bell is the exact opposite with his patience). I'm becoming more concerned that Rawls may actually win the job back, despite the box scores.
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I would think you have to have some great RB depth to think about moving CMike right now. Even if he's not piling up yards he's always gonna be a good bet for a TD on that offense. I guess if you can get someone to give you a WR1 it's something to think about but that doesn't seem likely. With the Rawls uncertainty he's probably pretty hard to trade right now, and as a fellow owner I have no desire to move him. 

He's one of the few RBs that is consistently putting up points right now.

Very few.

 
FF Nerd said:
Wonder what he could fetch? I'm inclined to hold because I think his perceived value is way lower than his actual value.
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I agree with this.  I do think C-mike is a sell high but I don't think his perceived value is close to his actual value because everyone looks at him as a sell high.

 
I think it's time to buy E. Lacy.

Yup. He looks hurt. 

Yup. He looks fat.

But Starks is out a while, they just signed K. Davis, and let's face it, that GB offense absolutely needs Lacy to start getting it together.

As a L. Murray owner, I'd gladly take Lacy for my #2 RB spot.

 
Tommy Collins said:
Anybody else thinking of selling high on CMike? 3 good weeks in a row. I'm concerned about this running style (or lack thereof). Generally RBs who hit the turbo button as soon as they get the ball don't end up being good backs (Le'Veon Bell is the exact opposite with his patience). I'm becoming more concerned that Rawls may actually win the job back, despite the box scores.
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I've considered both him and Howard, more so Howard though. Looking the rest of the way, Michael has a pretty brutal schedule.

 
kyoun1e said:
I think it's time to buy E. Lacy.

Yup. He looks hurt. 

Yup. He looks fat.

But Starks is out a while, they just signed K. Davis, and let's face it, that GB offense absolutely needs Lacy to start getting it together.

As a L. Murray owner, I'd gladly take Lacy for my #2 RB spot.
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Just came to post this.  Lacy panic is high right now, doubt you'll be able to get him lower than right now.

(Full disclosure, I tried to low-ball the Lacy owner in my league with some of my bench guys and got rebuffed)

 
buy WR Allen robinson

buy WR Julian Edelman

sell QB Matt Ryan

sell WR Beasley

sell RB Gordon if you can get anything for him now

 
Statorama said:
Just came to post this.  Lacy panic is high right now, doubt you'll be able to get him lower than right now.

(Full disclosure, I tried to low-ball the Lacy owner in my league with some of my bench guys and got rebuffed)
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I'm currently floating a L. Murray and C. Fleener for Lacy trade. Murray is worthless to me.

I know the Lacy owner is sick of him and he also knows odds are good he isn't playing Thursday. After this week, GBs schedule looks pretty good:

* @ATL, INDY, @TN, @WASH, @PHI, HOU

Think the GB offense and Lacy are as low as it's going to get. 

 
I find all the comments about not trying to sell guys because their perceived values is below their actual value very odd. Do you guys have experience trying to sell those guys this season or are you just guessing?

There is a simple saying in the sales world: If you don't A-S-K you don't G-E-T.

 
Chaka said:
I find all the comments about not trying to sell guys because their perceived values is below their actual value very odd. Do you guys have experience trying to sell those guys this season or are you just guessing?

There is a simple saying in the sales world: If you don't A-S-K you don't G-E-T.
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Can't make sales if you don't make calls

 
A guy in my league has Charles on his bench and I'm considering going after him but not sure of his value right now.  I think it's going to be fairly high because of the name alone.  Was thinking of offering Shepard and Riddick.

 
I tried buying the Vikings DST in a short bench league - guy has Bills DST carrying two.  I offered John Brown.  He countered with Dez.  Unreal.  Granted there are guys like John Brown on waivers.

 
Gottabesweet said:
I tried buying the Vikings DST in a short bench league - guy has Bills DST carrying two.  I offered John Brown.  He countered with Dez.  Unreal.  Granted there are guys like John Brown on waivers.
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I normally would not want Dez but if all I had to give up was a defense then I would take it.

 
Gottabesweet said:
I own Dez, He has name value and is almost healthy.  What WR's would you take for him in the 15-22 range. (FBG's has him ranked 23rd ROS)
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I would rather have DT, Michael Thomas, Emmanuel Sanders, Terrell Pryor, Jeremy Maclin, Doug Baldwin, Alshon Jeffery, DeAndre Hopkins and Larry Fitzgerald.  So, most of the guys in that range. 

 
Hawkeye21 said:
I would rather have DT, Michael Thomas, Emmanuel Sanders, Terrell Pryor, Jeremy Maclin, Doug Baldwin, Alshon Jeffery, DeAndre Hopkins and Larry Fitzgerald.  So, most of the guys in that range. 
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Yikes - short bench league -  I could easily get any of those outside of Hopkins.  I don't think I will though.  I might even be able to get Baldwin and Sanders.

Start 1RB,1WR, 2 flex and have been going with OBJ,Cobb,Fuller/Brown.    Next week OBJ/Cobb/Dez

 
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Landru said:
I don't have a dog in this fight but I think you're overstating the importance of snap counts here as there are some mitigating factors:

1) Their head coach wasn't there; Kubiak may have done things differently

2) While CJA overall looked good (and the TD that was called back was a great play), Booker undeniably looked better

3) Siemian was clearly struggling and it looked like the left shoulder was bothering him. It made sense to have the more experienced back protecting him

4) After the drive that Booker took them down the field, the Broncos were running a no huddle offense. CJA doubtless knows the offense better and is better suited for that situation

That's not to say that Anderson is trash; if an owner in one my leagues was panicking, I'd certainly try and buy low. But I wouldn't pay anything near quality starting RB prices for him; there is fundamentally a significant risk for a player who's understudy looks better. Using a struggling offense in hurry up mode without the head coach is hardly the basis for a definitive judgment on the players' roles going forward.
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Just catching up on this thread... I get the counter argument you're making, and that's part of what creates the opportunity to buy low in the first place.  If people weren't concerned about Booker getting more work and taking over, there would be no discount on CJ.  All that said, your argument assumes that Booker will continue to be as efficient as he's been to this point and as productive as he's been to this point if their roles were reversed.  I've seen Booker look good on some plays, but I've also seen (especially last Thursday night) some really well blocked/designed runs for him that essentially just asked him to run fast in a straight line.  No one touched him till he was 8+ yards down the field.  Would those plays continue if he's suddenly getting 15-20 touches a week?  Maybe... maybe they become fewer and farther between though and CJ starts making the splash plays in the smaller role.

Also, per the waiver wire podcast with Cecil and Bloom (and say what you will about Cecil's takes on situations -- he's convinced Paxton Lynch is the next Brady and Siemian is trash -- but Cecil does cover the team and said he specifically asked Kubiak if the growth of Booker's role was coming at CJ's expense, and Kubiak said no.  He asked a clarification and Kubiak basically said CJ's role is stable and isn't going anywhere... they need to run the ball more... thus creating more touches for Booker. 

In other words, if Kubiak is to be believed and isn't deliberately lying, the pie is getting bigger as opposed to Booker's supposedly imminent increased workload coming at CJ's expense.

 
I'm trying to buy Robinson now in keeper leagues... feels like his value is at a career low at this point.  I get the schedule looks rough at the end of the year, but he's a dominant player.  Have to think a "get right" game is coming for a dude that put up 1400 yards and 14 TDs last year in his 2nd year.

 
JFS171 said:
I'm trying to buy Robinson now in keeper leagues... feels like his value is at a career low at this point.  I get the schedule looks rough at the end of the year, but he's a dominant player.  Have to think a "get right" game is coming for a dude that put up 1400 yards and 14 TDs last year in his 2nd year.
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Amen brother. 

I am struggling badly with benching him right now because of his immense talent, but he's my current WR5 boardering on WR6 if S Smith gets healthy. Bortles has just fallen off a cliff this year in his play and I can't help but wonder if he's capable of pulling out of his tailspin. 

 
Thoughts on Sanders?

Short bench- PPR - 12TEAMS QRWTFFKD 4 bench

Rodgers-OBJ-Ingram-Dez-Cobb- Graham - K- D is a healthy lineup (Fuller/Gio/Eifert/Brown bench)

Do I trade Eifert/Brown for Sanders/Witten?

I have Graham at TE already.

I could use Witten for trade bait or just drop him for Moncrief.

 
Gottabesweet said:
Thoughts on Sanders?

Short bench- PPR - 12TEAMS QRWTFFKD 4 bench

Rodgers-OBJ-Ingram-Dez-Cobb- Graham - K- D is a healthy lineup (Fuller/Gio/Eifert/Brown bench)

Do I trade Eifert/Brown for Sanders/Witten?

I have Graham at TE already.

I could use Witten for trade bait or just drop him for Moncrief.
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Feel the Bern!!!

 
Not sure if this qualifies as either a buy low or sell high but interesting wr trade in our dynasty league

AJ Green and Dez

for

ARobinson and Landry

 
Gottabesweet said:
Thoughts on Sanders?

Short bench- PPR - 12TEAMS QRWTFFKD 4 bench

Rodgers-OBJ-Ingram-Dez-Cobb- Graham - K- D is a healthy lineup (Fuller/Gio/Eifert/Brown bench)

Do I trade Eifert/Brown for Sanders/Witten?

I have Graham at TE already.

I could use Witten for trade bait or just drop him for Moncrief.
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Assuming that is John Brown then I make this trade as soon as possible.   Using Witten as trade bait or pick up Moncrief (I would do this regardless).   You can offer Moncrief or Fuller in an attempt to upgrade at RB.

if Antonio Brown, I stand still.   A player like AB should thrive regardless of QB, and Big Bem will be back later in the season.

 
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davearm said:
I was going to offer the Nelson owner Ty Montgomery, just to tweak the guy.  Then I realized he might accept it, and thought better of it.
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I don't think even Id go that low. I'm just looking to sell my Packers shares, I don't need to buy into more uncertainty.

 
Amari Cooper and Allen Robinson owners are probably frustrated this week.  A-rob owners frustrated all year.  Anyone buying A-rob or trying to this week?

 
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