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Week 14 Waiver Wire (1 Viewer)

just_want_2_win

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For those leagues that either are still in their regular season during week 14 or allow waiver moves during playoffs:

  1. Manziel
  2. Colt McCoy
  3. Fitzpatrick
  4. Davante Adams
  5. Doug Martin
 
just_want_2_win said:
For those leagues that either are still in their regular season during week 14 or allow waiver moves during playoffs:

  1. Manziel
  2. Colt McCoy
  3. Fitzpatrick
  4. Davante Adams
  5. Doug Martin
The Bucs play Detroit next Sunday so I'd be careful about Martin. Some good matchups after that though.

 
Mostly, other than what has already been said:

McCoy- NYG and PHI 15/16

Michael Bush/Grice- Ellington hip issue, etc.

Stills- if he's still out there somehow

Adams- I'd held him all year until two weeks ago, thinking if Cobb/Nelson got injured I have an immediate stud that cost me nothing. He's a very boom/bust low end WR3/4 so he has value it's just hard to pick the right week.

Woods- Watkins has been in a slump the past few weeks. I don't know what the factors are specifically but Woods has been reaping the benefit. I don't see that changing ROS

Reed- if he's still out there; less experienced QBs typically target their TEs more often

Fleener- ^

 
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QB Fitzpatrick ?
Wha...huh...NO!

I do sorta like McCoy, not week 14 vs STL, but nice matchups after that. Of course, DJax (right fibula contusion) stretches defenses thin so McCoy might be sketchy if DJax misses games. I'd make a play for McCoy but sit him in week 14 and watch the DJax news closely.

 
Donte Moncrief
Sitting on Moncrief in dynasty but I don't think he can be depended on yet.
Once Wayne hangs em' up and Nicks is cut, then Moncrief will be fantasy relevant on a more consistent basis. It may not even matter about Nicks, but Wayne would need to retire for Moncrief to matter.
Wayne's a free agent after the season. I don't think it's a lock they keep him around. I'd let Nicks and Wayne walk and see what I can find in the draft. Those two's contracts free up some serious $

 
Jonathan Stewart looked real good against the Vikings and the matchup next week against the Saints is a very good one. We've been down this road a million times with this guy but if DeAngelo Williams is out with his hand injury JStew could be a nice RB2 for one week at least.

 
Donte Moncrief
Sitting on Moncrief in dynasty but I don't think he can be depended on yet.
Once Wayne hangs em' up and Nicks is cut, then Moncrief will be fantasy relevant on a more consistent basis. It may not even matter about Nicks, but Wayne would need to retire for Moncrief to matter.
Wayne's a free agent after the season. I don't think it's a lock they keep him around. I'd let Nicks and Wayne walk and see what I can find in the draft. Those two's contracts free up some serious $
If I had to guess, I'd say the Colts honor Wayne's contribution by giving him a reasonable one-year offer, with perhaps the understanding that this will be it for him. Also perhaps with the understanding that his playing time may be lessened to let Moncrief develop further.

I see a similar situation with Gates and San Diego, but that's another discussion.

 
Did Doug Martin actually look good or are we just celebrating that he scored a TD this week?
From the segments of the game I saw, he looked better than he has in the recent past, which obviously isn't saying much. It also appeared that TB's line was getting more push and opening better holes than it has in the past. If he's on your WW he might be worth a what-the-heck pickup if you have the space, but I doubt I would be confident in starting him in the playoffs outside of desperation.

 
In no order, and where available:

Reed

D. Allen

Andre Williams

Stewart

Martin

Hillman

Thompson

LMurray

Stills

Bailey

Manziel

McCoy

Chiefs

Pats

Ravens

Vikes

Barth

 
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Did Doug Martin actually look good or are we just celebrating that he scored a TD this week?
From the segments of the game I saw, he looked better than he has in the recent past, which obviously isn't saying much. It also appeared that TB's line was getting more push and opening better holes than it has in the past. If he's on your WW he might be worth a what-the-heck pickup if you have the space, but I doubt I would be confident in starting him in the playoffs outside of desperation.
I thought he looked good in the first half. He was running harder and making some people miss. Thought his play tailed off as the game went on but that could also be a result of the Bucs' poor offensive line getting worn down and the Bengals' D playing better against the run.

But he showed signs of life for the first time in seemingly forever. So he does have a pulse now at least.

 
Adams- I'd held him all year until two weeks ago, thinking if Cobb/Nelson got injured I have an immediate stud that cost me nothing. He's a very boom/bust low end WR3/4 so he has value it's just hard to pick the right week.
I did the exact same thing. But I'm not sure I'm buying. Pats very much schemed to take Cobb/Nelson out of the game (certainly didn't hurt that they had Revis and Browner to do it). Do you really think Atlanta or TB are going to be able to do the same thing the next couple weeks?

 
Adams- I'd held him all year until two weeks ago, thinking if Cobb/Nelson got injured I have an immediate stud that cost me nothing. He's a very boom/bust low end WR3/4 so he has value it's just hard to pick the right week.
I did the exact same thing. But I'm not sure I'm buying. Pats very much schemed to take Cobb/Nelson out of the game (certainly didn't hurt that they had Revis and Browner to do it). Do you really think Atlanta or TB are going to be able to do the same thing the next couple weeks?
I expect Adams to revert back to his 2 or 3 targets the rest of the way.

 
packersfan said:
Jonathan Stewart looked real good against the Vikings and the matchup next week against the Saints is a very good one. We've been down this road a million times with this guy but if DeAngelo Williams is out with his hand injury JStew could be a nice RB2 for one week at least.
Please.just.stop.

I think I would need a cattle prod in my ### in order to start him Week 15 in my playoffs.

 
packersfan said:
Jonathan Stewart looked real good against the Vikings and the matchup next week against the Saints is a very good one. We've been down this road a million times with this guy but if DeAngelo Williams is out with his hand injury JStew could be a nice RB2 for one week at least.
Please.just.stop.

I think I would need a cattle prod in my ### in order to start him Week 15 in my playoffs.
I hear ya there. :) But he put up 13 points in PPR yesterday with Williams. If Williams doesn't go, that should put Stewart in position to get 15-20 touches against the league's 31st-ranked defense. On paper, it does make him an appealing reach.

 
zamboni said:
zftcg said:
Hoot McGoot said:
Adams- I'd held him all year until two weeks ago, thinking if Cobb/Nelson got injured I have an immediate stud that cost me nothing. He's a very boom/bust low end WR3/4 so he has value it's just hard to pick the right week.
I did the exact same thing. But I'm not sure I'm buying. Pats very much schemed to take Cobb/Nelson out of the game (certainly didn't hurt that they had Revis and Browner to do it). Do you really think Atlanta or TB are going to be able to do the same thing the next couple weeks?
I expect Adams to revert back to his 2 or 3 targets the rest of the way.
Yeah, this is a guy who did nothing in two straight games where Rodgers went off. But I still might pick him up for the upside over Andrew Hawkins.

 
zamboni said:
zftcg said:
Hoot McGoot said:
Adams- I'd held him all year until two weeks ago, thinking if Cobb/Nelson got injured I have an immediate stud that cost me nothing. He's a very boom/bust low end WR3/4 so he has value it's just hard to pick the right week.
I did the exact same thing. But I'm not sure I'm buying. Pats very much schemed to take Cobb/Nelson out of the game (certainly didn't hurt that they had Revis and Browner to do it). Do you really think Atlanta or TB are going to be able to do the same thing the next couple weeks?
I expect Adams to revert back to his 2 or 3 targets the rest of the way.
Yeah, this is a guy who did nothing in two straight games where Rodgers went off. But I still might pick him up for the upside over Andrew Hawkins.
I'm gonna drop Wayne this week. I'm suddenly needing some upside at WR and Wayne just isn't getting it done. Depending on how Percy looks tonight with Smith I'll either put Adams first on my FAAB list or second behind Harvin.

 
zftcg said:
Hoot McGoot said:
Adams- I'd held him all year until two weeks ago, thinking if Cobb/Nelson got injured I have an immediate stud that cost me nothing. He's a very boom/bust low end WR3/4 so he has value it's just hard to pick the right week.
I did the exact same thing. But I'm not sure I'm buying. Pats very much schemed to take Cobb/Nelson out of the game (certainly didn't hurt that they had Revis and Browner to do it). Do you really think Atlanta or TB are going to be able to do the same thing the next couple weeks?
this is exactly it

 
zftcg said:
Hoot McGoot said:
Adams- I'd held him all year until two weeks ago, thinking if Cobb/Nelson got injured I have an immediate stud that cost me nothing. He's a very boom/bust low end WR3/4 so he has value it's just hard to pick the right week.
I did the exact same thing. But I'm not sure I'm buying. Pats very much schemed to take Cobb/Nelson out of the game (certainly didn't hurt that they had Revis and Browner to do it). Do you really think Atlanta or TB are going to be able to do the same thing the next couple weeks?
Most likely not. You'd basically have to ride that same mentality where you hope Cobb/Nelson get injured (which is messed up imo), or hope he booms. This is week 14, and the likelihood of there being much better options available are slim to none. Dad always said beggars can't be choosers.

 
My QBs are Ryan and Flacco, both of whom have terrible matchups this week. Holding onto Ryan because he has great matchups in weeks 15/16 but obviously need to win this week to get there. Definitely going to drop Flacco for one of the aforementioned WW guys (Manziel. Bridgewater, Hill. McCoy. Fitzmagic). Who though is the big question and just how much of a gamble do I want to take in the 1st round of the playoffs.

Would I be crazy to go with Hill against the porous Redskins offense?

 
My QBs are Ryan and Flacco, both of whom have terrible matchups this week. Holding onto Ryan because he has great matchups in weeks 15/16 but obviously need to win this week to get there. Definitely going to drop Flacco for one of the aforementioned WW guys (Manziel. Bridgewater, Hill. McCoy. Fitzmagic). Who though is the big question and just how much of a gamble do I want to take in the 1st round of the playoffs.

Would I be crazy to go with Hill against the porous Redskins offense?
I am debating Manziel, Orton or Hill. The Redskins are like the Pats a few years ago, historically bad secondary, but they stop the run. Hill is looking better and better.

 
How would you rank the following wr to pick up and play this week?

I got them like this

Moncrief @ clv

Bailey @ was

Adams vs atl

Baldwin @ phi

 
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My QBs are Ryan and Flacco, both of whom have terrible matchups this week. Holding onto Ryan because he has great matchups in weeks 15/16 but obviously need to win this week to get there. Definitely going to drop Flacco for one of the aforementioned WW guys (Manziel. Bridgewater, Hill. McCoy. Fitzmagic). Who though is the big question and just how much of a gamble do I want to take in the 1st round of the playoffs.

Would I be crazy to go with Hill against the porous Redskins offense?
Out of the 5 guys you listed, I bet 2 guys have good/decent games and 3 have terrible games. If you want to get cute and try to predict which, then have fun. I wouldn't try to get cute and I'd just play Matt Ryan if it were me and my season was on the line.

 
My QBs are Ryan and Flacco, both of whom have terrible matchups this week. Holding onto Ryan because he has great matchups in weeks 15/16 but obviously need to win this week to get there. Definitely going to drop Flacco for one of the aforementioned WW guys (Manziel. Bridgewater, Hill. McCoy. Fitzmagic). Who though is the big question and just how much of a gamble do I want to take in the 1st round of the playoffs.

Would I be crazy to go with Hill against the porous Redskins offense?
Out of the 5 guys you listed, I bet 2 guys have good/decent games and 3 have terrible games. If you want to get cute and try to predict which, then have fun. I wouldn't try to get cute and I'd just play Matt Ryan if it were me and my season was on the line.
Agree. Ryan should be ok. Might be a shootout in gb on mnf. Atl has been trending up

 
I wouldn't consider it a terrible matchup for Ryan this week. He could throw upwards of 40 passes trying to keep pace with Rodgers and I don't see Green Bay stopping Julio. If White can return it'll make things even more difficult on the Packers' secondary.

 
Hoot McGoot said:
Mostly, other than what has already been said:

McCoy- NYG and PHI 15/16

Michael Bush/Grice- Ellington hip issue, etc.

Stills- if he's still out there somehow

Adams- I'd held him all year until two weeks ago, thinking if Cobb/Nelson got injured I have an immediate stud that cost me nothing. He's a very boom/bust low end WR3/4 so he has value it's just hard to pick the right week.

Woods- Watkins has been in a slump the past few weeks. I don't know what the factors are specifically but Woods has been reaping the benefit. I don't see that changing ROS

Reed- if he's still out there; less experienced QBs typically target their TEs more often

Fleener- ^
I considered Woods last week, but decided Hawkins was a safer bet, which ended up costing me my match-up. Now, with the uncertainty in Cleveland, I'm thinking of going back to RW. I think the big question is Watkins. Yes, he had Haden last week, but he's been trending down, and may have just hit the rookie wall. Also, he likely gets Talib this week.

Other question for me is whether to pick up Dwayne Allen (our flex is WR/TE, plus he's an insurance policy against Kelce's continued under-utilization). Amazingly, someone dropped him for Ray Rice.

 
I guess I shouldn't have said Matt Ryan has a terrible matchup. I'm just concerned about him on the road (8 tds 6 ints in 6 games this season) and in the frigid Green Bay weather since his struggles outdoors is well-documented. Also that Packer pass rush looked real good against the Patriots and we all know about Ryan's shaky O-Line.

I honestly don't want to be "cute" going with the likes of Johnny Football, Bridgewater, Hill, McCoy and Fitzmagic as the last thing I want is to lose because I started say Colt and the STL defense mauled him to the tune of 3 fantasy points. Ryan's floor is definitely higher than these others guy but that just means I can count on him for like 15 points, which he got in 5 of the 6 games prior to this past game vs AZ. I am just wondering which of these guys is the best speculative pickup to at least give me a better alternative to Ryan than Flacco. Not necessarily as someone I intend to start.

 
I guess I shouldn't have said Matt Ryan has a terrible matchup. I'm just concerned about him on the road (8 tds 6 ints in 6 games this season) and in the frigid Green Bay weather since his struggles outdoors is well-documented. Also that Packer pass rush looked real good against the Patriots and we all know about Ryan's shaky O-Line.

I honestly don't want to be "cute" going with the likes of Johnny Football, Bridgewater, Hill, McCoy and Fitzmagic as the last thing I want is to lose because I started say Colt and the STL defense mauled him to the tune of 3 fantasy points. Ryan's floor is definitely higher than these others guy but that just means I can count on him for like 15 points, which he got in 5 of the 6 games prior to this past game vs AZ. I am just wondering which of these guys is the best speculative pickup to at least give me a better alternative to Ryan than Flacco. Not necessarily as someone I intend to start.
Yeah I don't think you can start Ryan with extreme confidence this week due to the issues you listed. But the volume potential is very high and I honestly can't see any way the Packers' secondary handles Julio. I think he'll destroy them. I wouldn't be surprised to see Ryan put up 300 with 2-3 TDs and the Falcons still get blown out.

 
I guess I shouldn't have said Matt Ryan has a terrible matchup. I'm just concerned about him on the road (8 tds 6 ints in 6 games this season) and in the frigid Green Bay weather since his struggles outdoors is well-documented. Also that Packer pass rush looked real good against the Patriots and we all know about Ryan's shaky O-Line.

I honestly don't want to be "cute" going with the likes of Johnny Football, Bridgewater, Hill, McCoy and Fitzmagic as the last thing I want is to lose because I started say Colt and the STL defense mauled him to the tune of 3 fantasy points. Ryan's floor is definitely higher than these others guy but that just means I can count on him for like 15 points, which he got in 5 of the 6 games prior to this past game vs AZ. I am just wondering which of these guys is the best speculative pickup to at least give me a better alternative to Ryan than Flacco. Not necessarily as someone I intend to start.
Yeah I don't think you can start Ryan with extreme confidence this week due to the issues you listed. But the volume potential is very high and I honestly can't see any way the Packers' secondary handles Julio. I think he'll destroy them. I wouldn't be surprised to see Ryan put up 300 with 2-3 TDs and the Falcons still get blown out.
I'm sort of in your same spot with one team (Mett is backup). I see 225-1-2 for Ryan outside; there will be some garbage time points maybe but ATL is going to get blitzkrieged.

But the other QBs you're considering are going to be hard to trust in the playoffs -- total dice rolls. They may come up snake eyes but there's a good chance you get almost nada. Will Manziel stay in all game? Bridgewater has been so-so and up and down. Hill nothing too special but matchup is nice -- on paper. I don't see FitzP putting up another huge game; last week was a fluke. I would say FitzP is going to be somewhere around 190-1-1 because HOU will just run all over JAX.

Colt McCoy might be the one around 275-2-1 because he's looked good in his starts so far but then again he could be 210-1-2 because the StL D can be scary good when it actually shows up. Look at what they did to Peyton, albeit at home.

 
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packersfan said:
Jonathan Stewart looked real good against the Vikings and the matchup next week against the Saints is a very good one. We've been down this road a million times with this guy but if DeAngelo Williams is out with his hand injury JStew could be a nice RB2 for one week at least.
this.

with steve smith looking more senior than junior last week, personally looking at jstew for my flex.

who knows, jstew could be this years week 14 bryce brown-knowshon moreno? stranger things have happened.

good luck to all.

-biz-

 
The Packers have allowed at least 220 yards passing to every QB they have faced except the following:

Wilson

Geno

Ponder

Newton

Bridgewater

Two of those QBs are pathetic. One of them is a rookie, Newton was an absolute train wreck in that game and Wilson doesn't throw much and didn't need to in Week 1 to beat Green Bay.

I think the best comps in terms of possible game flow for Ryan may be the two games against Chicago and then the game against Philly. All of those games were decisive wins by Green Bay but featured the opponent having to throw a lot to try and keep up. In those games the QBs produced:

Cutler 256-2-2

Cutler 272-1-2

Sanchez 346-2-2

The reasons why I used those games were because the Bears (like Atlanta) have an above-average talent at QB and a wealth of talent in the passing game. Sanchez isn't on Cutler's or Ryan's level in terms of talent in my opinion but the Chip Kelly system pretty much guarantees fantasy passing production.

I do think the Packers will get some sacks and 1-2 takeways. But if Ryan is throwing it around 40 times which I think is very likely (Sanchez attempted 44 in his game while Cutler averaged 35.5 in his two games) I could see him reaching 300 yards passing. Combine that with Julio and Roddy's talent and 2-3 TDs is not unrealistic at all.

 

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