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Week 15 2025 who should I start thread **OFFICIALLY UNOFFICIAL** (30 Viewers)
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PPR Need 1 Flex: Have Bijan vs TB and Gainwell vs Mia as my RB 1 & 2 right now. So, I need one flex and let me know if I should start anyone of the RB on list as RB2 instead of gainwell?
Tracy Vs Wash
Pittman @ Sea
Reed @ Den
Hunt vs LAC
Pitts @ TB (Tonight)
Evans vs Atl (Tonight)
Tracy Vs Wash
Pittman @ Sea
Reed @ Den
Hunt vs LAC
Pitts @ TB (Tonight)
Evans vs Atl (Tonight)
Chaka
Footballguy
I prefer Tracy to Gainwell because I am more secure in his touch volume and it's a great matchup.
In PPR I would consider Pitts, Pittman and Evans over Gainwell. Let's not forget that Pittman saw 12 targets last week with Leonard under center for the majority of the game. Pittman is a safety valve type receiver.
Pitts has no London again. I don't think he has 12 target upside but, maybe 10.
Gainwell is a good option if you think the game is going to be high scoring but, if you think it's going to be ugly or a slug fest then he's a sub 10 touch guy. With TJ Watt now likely out, maybe this could be a high scoring game...
Tracy>Pittman>Gainwell>Pitts
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Need a flex in a 16 team PPR TEP IDP
• Hunter Henry Vs BUF
or
• Jordan Addison At DAL
Addison nursing an Achilles, but I love the matchup.
Henry currently in my flex spot - it’s TEP, and Pitts is my TE1.
• Hunter Henry Vs BUF
or
• Jordan Addison At DAL
Addison nursing an Achilles, but I love the matchup.
Henry currently in my flex spot - it’s TEP, and Pitts is my TE1.
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
If my math checks out here, this means you know everything about something.
Chaka
Footballguy
Say what you will about him but the Bears have the #8 scoring offense in the league, Chargers are #17 (2.7 PPG difference).
KC has a very tough defense too. They're #7 in points allowed, Cleveland is #17, a 3.8 PPG difference (Cle #2 in yards, KC is #9).
The Bears are playing like a team built for cold weather, #1 in rush attempts, #2 in rush yards (#11 in pass att & #14 in pass yards). The weather doesn't concern me.
Yes, I can see starting him depending on your options
With Marvin Harrison looking to be missing another game, don't you kind of have to start Wilson in a PPR league? I know the matchup is ugly, but he's averaged over 30 points in the games Harrison has missed. And while Zay seems to have a great matchup, CIN isn't all that bad defending WRs.
Now how do you decide between the NE RBs? Now that Stevenson is back, they're back to an even split. So what are you hoping for...15 points from the one you choose? Nix has hit that in 10/13 games this season. And what if you choose the wrong NE RB? What if it's Henderson breaking off a long TD and Stevenson plods along for 10 points?
That's a long way of saying, play it safe with the QB superflex, even with the tough matchup, and go with Wilson over Zay (assuming Harrison sits).
Agreed, go with Chicago, and hope Shedeur comes back to earth this weekend.
Chaka
Footballguy
Great response overall, I appreciate it.
I posed the question on Tuesday. With MHJ missing W & Th practice, if he's out Wilson is a lock in my lineup.
I looked back and didn't see any more WDIS from you besides the ones on the first page. Please let me know if I missed any!
Bench Knight for sure against the HOU defense
Then even though Wilson did so well last time Jacobs was out, I'd still bench him because if the DEN D
The General
Footballguy
Pick 2, 1/2 point PPR:
Devin Neal vs Carolina
Ashton Jeanty @ Philly
Rico Dowdle @ New Orleans
Tyrone Tracy vs Washington
Pick 1, 1/2 point PPR:
Isaiah Likely @ Cincy
Tyler Warren @ Seattle
Devin Neal vs Carolina
Ashton Jeanty @ Philly
Rico Dowdle @ New Orleans
Tyrone Tracy vs Washington
Pick 1, 1/2 point PPR:
Isaiah Likely @ Cincy
Tyler Warren @ Seattle
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Defense question.
I need upside after getting Kyle Pitts'd.
* SF D vs TN -- SF D has actually had a couple good games in a row in double digits. That said, they only have 5 INTs and 16 sacks on the season. Ward and Co. not a complete trainwreck, but obviously not very good. SF could get up big and pin their ears back. Good weather.
or
* CHI vs CLE -- S. Sanders somehow threw for 360+ last week and seems to be coming on. Game is going to be frigid at Soldier Field. CHI D has been opportunistic with 18 INTs and 24 sacks.
Which?
Thanks
I need upside after getting Kyle Pitts'd.
* SF D vs TN -- SF D has actually had a couple good games in a row in double digits. That said, they only have 5 INTs and 16 sacks on the season. Ward and Co. not a complete trainwreck, but obviously not very good. SF could get up big and pin their ears back. Good weather.
or
* CHI vs CLE -- S. Sanders somehow threw for 360+ last week and seems to be coming on. Game is going to be frigid at Soldier Field. CHI D has been opportunistic with 18 INTs and 24 sacks.
Which?
Thanks
Chaka
Footballguy
Knight isn't an option. He's not good and that HOU D is too good.
Personally I might bench Wilson. It's a tough matchup and, even when given a shot he hasn't exactly lit the world afire. He's entirely TD dependent IMO. The others, IMO, have a little more stand alone value either in PPR (Dowdle, DK) or similar TD upside Monangai and Monangai is running worlds better than Wilson.
DK>Dowdle>Monangai>Wilson>Zonovan
Chaka
Footballguy
Tough calls there. I think I like Tracy from this group. I think he sees lead back opportunities and, he's great in the passing game. It's also the best matchup.
After that, I really want to say Rico but, Chuba does loom large. But, I think the Panthers are going to try to run as much as possible against a bad NO run D. He should have a good opportunity share (15 or so IMO).
Neal, should also see good opportunities but, I don't think he's as good a player as your other options and is TD dependent. After last night's upset I think Carolina has a great opportunity to seize first place in the division and, I don't think they squander it.
Jeanty will likely see the most touches but, it's really tough to get excited about the Raider offense in Philly. Does Pickett have it in him to make a game of it? Crazier things have happened. I think Jeanty should be strongly considered because of opportunity but I think I go with
Tracy>Rico>Jeanty>Neal
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I think it has to be Likely. He's been knocking on the door for weeks now and, it's a great matchup.
If it was full PPR I may suggest Warren because I think he, and Pittman, will be safety valves for whoever is under center for the Colts. But, it's a brutal matchup and I don't trust the Colts offense until I see what they can do without Jones.
Likely>Warren
Chaka
Footballguy
I don't like Gainwell's dependence on high scoring games to see his touch count go up. In a normal 21-17 type game, he's more likely to see 7-8 touches. In a 32-28 game he can hit 15. The O/U this week is 41.5
If you aren't risk averse Chuba has a great opportunity this week, just as good a matchup as Breece's is bad. I think it's a full blown 50/50 time share but, I think the game plan is to give the RBs as much work as they can handle. If it works Chuba should see 15 opportunities or more.
It feels like Breece is going to need a broken coverage to do anything this week. Third string QB on the road against the #1 rush D in the league. I am sure Breece is the game plan and the Jets will try to give him every opportunity but a 20-47-0 stat line feels very possible.
Chuba>Breece>Gainwell
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I start Breece over Charbs and Gainwell (again). The Colts have a solid defense and Charbs is entirely TD dependent IMO. If it's a blowout, and it could be, he may see more GL work but, I don't love counting on TDs unless I absolutely have to. I think Gainwell is more involved in all three downs than Charbs too. Also TD dependent but, he could see more work in the passing game.
Breece>Gainwell>Charbs
Chaka
Footballguy
You need a ton of upside if you faced Pitts. But, I don't think I can predict which D has the most because defensive TDs just can't be calculated for.
It's really a coin toss but, I think I lean Niners because of the better chance for a blowout. The defense may have opportunity to pin their ears back and make some plays in the second half.
SF>CHI
Da Bears
Surprised.
CHI Has proven to be a bit more opportunistic.
And I wonder if Sanders comes back down to earth against a "real" NFL team not named the Titans. And it's going to be frigid.
Chaka
Footballguy
I like Swift first. He's playing great, the Lions are 1st in the league in rush attempts, 2nd in rush yards and he is involved in the passing game (even if the Bears don't throw to the RBs a lot).
After that it's cloudy. I probably go with Deebo based on the matchup because the others have issues there and Deebo seems to be consistently good for 8-9 opportunities.
For the last WR, it's kind of a coin toss. I guess I lean to Sutton because, he has fewer questions at either QB or for weather. The GB defense is good but, they are vulnerable and it looks like Sutton has reemerged as the true #1 in Denver.
Swift>Deebo>Sutton>Coin toss
Chaka
Footballguy
They have and, I think they are a fine choice. I hate trying to predict game script but, I look at the Niners having a great chance at getting up big and really getting after the Titans and their league worst offense.
Really, it's a coin toss and, IMO your response suggests that you already knew which side of the coin you wanted it to land on when you tossed it in the air.
Personally, I'm going with the Bears over the Pack & Rams (SF was not available to me in my league).
Golden Gopher
Footballguy
Tiered PPR league with three flex spots (we added a 3rd and got rid of kickers and defense). I have Burrow, Dowdle, Jefferson, Egbuka, and McBride slotted in my "non-flex" spots (QB, RB, 2WR, TE). I need to choose THREE of the following. PPR is 0.5 for RB, .75 for WR, and a full point for TE.
RB Options - Hubbard @ NOS, Tracy vs WAS, Croskey-Merritt @ NYG.... Picked "Bill" up on the off-chance that Rodriguez is OUT.
WR Options - Boutte vs BUF, Iosivas vs BAL, Vele vs CAR, Shakir @ NE
TE Options - Ferguson vs MIN, Gesicki vs BAL
I could go more ways than I can count on this. Liking Ferguson but no idea past that. If I had to set my lineup in the next 30 seconds, it would probably be Ferguson and Gesicki based on the full PPR and Tracy because of the juicy matchup, but I could be swayed easily to any of the WR's. Thoughts?
RB Options - Hubbard @ NOS, Tracy vs WAS, Croskey-Merritt @ NYG.... Picked "Bill" up on the off-chance that Rodriguez is OUT.
WR Options - Boutte vs BUF, Iosivas vs BAL, Vele vs CAR, Shakir @ NE
TE Options - Ferguson vs MIN, Gesicki vs BAL
I could go more ways than I can count on this. Liking Ferguson but no idea past that. If I had to set my lineup in the next 30 seconds, it would probably be Ferguson and Gesicki based on the full PPR and Tracy because of the juicy matchup, but I could be swayed easily to any of the WR's. Thoughts?
Golden Gopher
Footballguy
I'd give the slight not to Brown, mainly because the other two share snaps (and weather should help Brown I think).
WR's are close... Tet MIGHT have the slightly higher floor, but Jameson has been on a tear as of late and probably has more upside. I would lean Williams on that one.
Golden Gopher
Footballguy
For what it's worth, I agree with this completely. Odunze is hurt and I'd steer clear of McConkey against KC. Sutton's matchup isn't great either, but I think he's emerged as the top guy in DEN.
D question. Good choices here obviously. I planned ahead:
* PHI vs LV -- Not even sure Geno is starting. PHI D should be smarting after last week's loss.
or
* HOU vs AZ -- Maybe the best D in the league. Brissett is getting the ball out quick though and seems to be the king of garbage time.
Which?
Thanks
* PHI vs LV -- Not even sure Geno is starting. PHI D should be smarting after last week's loss.
or
* HOU vs AZ -- Maybe the best D in the league. Brissett is getting the ball out quick though and seems to be the king of garbage time.
Which?
Thanks
PPR League. Need a flex:
* T. McMillan @NO -- Went 5-60-0 in the first matchup. I can't get a read on the NO D to be honest. Some say it's "improving."
* R. Dowdle @NO -- Same game. Lot of talk on Chubba should get more touches. He could. Although Canales has said Dowdle will get most of the early down work.
* C. Watson @Den -- Tough matchup. Surtain could be on him. However, Watson has been on fire.
Which?
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* T. McMillan @NO -- Went 5-60-0 in the first matchup. I can't get a read on the NO D to be honest. Some say it's "improving."
* R. Dowdle @NO -- Same game. Lot of talk on Chubba should get more touches. He could. Although Canales has said Dowdle will get most of the early down work.
* C. Watson @Den -- Tough matchup. Surtain could be on him. However, Watson has been on fire.
Which?
THanks
PPR league. I need one RB and one flex out of this crew:
* K. Monangai vs CLE -- Tough matchup and splitting with Swift, but Ben Johnson is committed to the run. CLE can be had on the ground. I'd think Johnson will want to stick to the run as much as possible...especially in frigid conditions...to keep Caleb out of harms way.
* C. Rodriguez (or Bill) @NYG -- Great matchup. If CRod is healthy, this is a good spot. If he's out, would think Bill wouldn't be too bad either.
* E. Wilson @Den -- This is only if Jacobs is ruled out. Tough matchup here, but Wilson would get touches big time and he's looked very good.
* I. Likely @CINCI -- If you don't know by now, CINC is historically bad against TEs. And M. Andrews is on the injury report with a glute. Likely has been trending upwards and had 5-90+ in the last matchup.
* D. Vele vs CAR -- Decent matchup, indoors, and he's getting good target share.
* R. Pearsall vs TN -- Great matchup, but hasn't done squat since he's gotten back from injury. Maybe he got in syc over the bye. TN is terrible with downfield shots. A gamble.
Note: Need upside after Pitts destruction last night although I still have some high upside ammo in Lamar, Javonte, J. Chase, and McBride. Need to fill holes with high upside players.
Which RB?
Which for flex?
Thanks!
* K. Monangai vs CLE -- Tough matchup and splitting with Swift, but Ben Johnson is committed to the run. CLE can be had on the ground. I'd think Johnson will want to stick to the run as much as possible...especially in frigid conditions...to keep Caleb out of harms way.
* C. Rodriguez (or Bill) @NYG -- Great matchup. If CRod is healthy, this is a good spot. If he's out, would think Bill wouldn't be too bad either.
* E. Wilson @Den -- This is only if Jacobs is ruled out. Tough matchup here, but Wilson would get touches big time and he's looked very good.
* I. Likely @CINCI -- If you don't know by now, CINC is historically bad against TEs. And M. Andrews is on the injury report with a glute. Likely has been trending upwards and had 5-90+ in the last matchup.
* D. Vele vs CAR -- Decent matchup, indoors, and he's getting good target share.
* R. Pearsall vs TN -- Great matchup, but hasn't done squat since he's gotten back from injury. Maybe he got in syc over the bye. TN is terrible with downfield shots. A gamble.
Note: Need upside after Pitts destruction last night although I still have some high upside ammo in Lamar, Javonte, J. Chase, and McBride. Need to fill holes with high upside players.
Which RB?
Which for flex?
Thanks!
Pearsall. This is the week.
Golden Gopher
Footballguy
I like Monangai and Likely. Rodriguez has been dinged up this week, and WAS getting shut out last week scares me. They should be better this week, but who knows. And CLE did give up a couple of huge runs last week, so there's that.
Flex... I think Likely has more upside, which you said you're looking for. That said, going with the two best RB options might have the highest floor (which is probably Monangai and Rodriguez unless Jacobs is out).
Actually...I'm a dummy. I need an RB and TWO flexes.
So I could roll with all three.
Golden Gopher
Footballguy
Yeah, the more I think about it, and as much as Likely has a good matchup, I think I'd go with all three RB's if Jacobs is out. If he plays, I like Likely over the WR's, especially if it sounds like Andrews might be limited. I don't trust Pearsall at this point, and Vele's got too small of a sample size for me to be super confident.
If Jacobs plays and Rodriguez doesn't, I'd probably go Vele next.
Wilson* > Monangai > CRod >Likely > Vele > Pearsall
*If Jacobs OUT
Golden Gopher
Footballguy
I'm very high on Pearsall long-term (dynasty), but haven't seen anything since his return that makes me confident of a "breakout" game this week. Could he score? Sure. But, I'd say it's just as likely that he goes for 2/25 or something like that.
FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
AD Mitchell @ Jags
Luther Burden vs. Browns
.5PPR .. Pick 1 Please?
Luther Burden vs. Browns
.5PPR .. Pick 1 Please?
shadrap
Footballguy
Henry, but it's close
shadrap
Footballguy
Luther.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I also have Chuba. Kinda using him as my backup plan for Jacobs if he can’t go.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Pick two for Flex:
Breece Hall, Terry McLaurin or Jaylen Warren, Chuba Hubbard?
Already starting: Hampton, Flowers, Olave, Pickens, De. Smith
4 pt TD, .25/reception, 1pt /10 yards rushing/receiving
Thanks!
Breece Hall, Terry McLaurin or Jaylen Warren, Chuba Hubbard?
Already starting: Hampton, Flowers, Olave, Pickens, De. Smith
4 pt TD, .25/reception, 1pt /10 yards rushing/receiving
Thanks!
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
Nothing wrong with h Taylor and Adams. Not sure why that makes you sad.
I think Brown has been on top much of a good run to bench now. I like Swift and Monangai (Swift a little more) but they're time sharing and ... The Browns D can still b strong too ( I think last week was an aberration).
Brown>Swift>Monangai
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Tet is a fine play and, probably the smart play. The main concern is if the Panthers manage another game on the ground like they did against the Rams. Possible but, maybe not as likely as some think.
But, as this thread should know by now I am ride-or-die for Jamo. If he gets seven targets and Tet gets seven targets Jamo>Tet. But, despite Jamo's great run of late, it's still just a bit tough to trust and, the Rams are a tough matchup.
Close call... But, I'm sticking with my guy
Jamo>Tet
Chaka
Footballguy
Im okay with Ferguson, mostly because after Tracy & Chuba it feels like a real coming toss among mid, or less, options.
Tracy, IMO is going to get starter touches against a weak defense.
Chuba is playing great, the Panthers have a great opportunity and a great matchup. I could see 15 opportunities for both him and Rico.
Those two are my first options even in a TE premium.
If Rodriguez is a late scratch, maybe JCM but not just yet.
Tracy>Chuba>Ferguson>Vele>Gesicki
Chaka
Footballguy
Smash Phili for me. Angry, home, Raiders. Arizona is down Paris Johnson, which is a big deal but Brissett is having a great year and I want to trust him to do more than anything the Raiders can do.
PHI>HOU
Frankthetank
Footballguy
PPR. Harvey vs Packers, Waddle vs Pitt or McLaurin vs Giants for flex?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Very game-script dependent IMO. Panthers up? 60/40 Rico. Panthers playing from behind? 60/40 Chuba.
Agree with the majority of your post.
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