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Week 2 waiver wire pickups (1 Viewer)

I am not super excited about any of the WW guys this week.
I need a WR, but not sure I should use my #2 waiver priority. Had a bit of a rough week, but I don't want to waste my position obviously. Kendall Wright is there though...Having a hard time wanting to spend it on him too unless someone can convince me otherwise. Mariota looked awesome but Wright still only had 4 targets.

 
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Moncrief is available in one of my leagues, but I have no idea who I should drop to get him. Doesn't help that I have Julius Thomas and Gates both chilling on my bench.
Why the hell are you rostering 3 TEs? I'd dump both of those guys today to get someone who will help me in the next few weeks, especially if I was snakebitten at WR.

 
How much FAAB for Dion Lewis, Mariota and Chris Johnson. In competitive leagues you want to grab any impact player you can use on a weekly basis or to get solid depth for bye weeks. Dion could be great as a flex in PPR so I am guessing 30% or something like that. It is tough because some leagues are 20 round drafts so it is harder to get impact players.

 
If and where applicable I think all-in on Eifert is a good call. I think James Jones is a future reliable WR3 with upside and Mariota is worth getting. If not on the WW they're worth trading for.

I do think Dion will continue to have flex value throughout the year, but again get him on the cheap.

Michael for the handcuff/stash but only at the right price.

 
Moncrief is available in one of my leagues, but I have no idea who I should drop to get him. Doesn't help that I have Julius Thomas and Gates both chilling on my bench.
Why the hell are you rostering 3 TEs? I'd dump both of those guys today to get someone who will help me in the next few weeks, especially if I was snakebitten at WR.
Without getting too into the weeds here, my WRs are Dez, Beckham, Hopkins, Adams and Lockett. So Moncrief would be nice, sure. My TEs are a mess and there isn't much out there right now, that's why I held onto Thomas and Gates. Best TE available is Green. ASJ, Eifert, Reed, etc were all rostered.

 
In big money leagues any edge matters. I have 3 main teams with one injured 4th team and you can see how having a flex that scores 15 pts can really help. Any edge can help. Maybe Mariota is the real deal and he is a fantasy superstar, that would be a nice upgrade if you don't have a strong QB.

 
Karlos Williams should not be a priority waiver target. He had a good run for a TD but wasn't used all that much. Boobie D got the GL TD and McCoy is going to get used more and more heavily as his hammy feels better.

 
Pickup Hankerson before he goes off tonight, especially if you have Dez or other issues, Roddy White is toast.
Would love more info here. Have Dez and panicking a bit since Royal is looking like Cutler's 4th option and Funchess will be weeks before he is getting the needed targets.
Here's a writeup about the situation FWIW, Devin Hester is out at least 2 weeks with turf toe, Roddy has elbow/knee issue.

http://www.thefalcoholic.com/2015/8/29/9223981/watch-leonard-hankerson-the-man-who-would-be-the-falcons-2-receiver

Atlanta Falcons

No one figured Leonard Hankerson would emerge as a fantasy target based on his career numbers in four seasons with the Redskins. Hankerson has just six touchdowns in 31 career games (123 targets). Injuries have hampered his progress, but a healthy Hankerson has a legit chance to be a secondary threat behind Julio Jones. Hankerson already showed he could be a scoring target with a 2-yard touchdown reception from Matt Ryan in a preseason matchup against the Jets. -- Vaughn McClure

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/175990/who-is-the-fantasy-player-to-watch-for-all-32-teams-nfl-nation-has-the-answers
Disregard this entire post, :fishing: :tfp:

 
Maybe I'm off, but as a local, I don't have a lot of faith in Moncrief. He is a big bodied target, but isn't the best route runner, or catcher. With the Hilton injury, and the way the game script went to crap, the Colts should turn to to Gore more. I also think Allen and Fleener will be the bigger beneficiaries of Hilton's short term departure.

 
Thoughts on PPR TE pickups? Botched TE pretty badly in one league.

Right now I have waivers in this order:

ASJ

Ladarius Green

Vernon Davis

(Eifert, Reed not available)

 
Are people that high on Moncrief because he is the WR3, or because they expect him to take TY Hilton's role? I'm confused about Hilton's injury. Bruised knee. Some reports say out several weeks. Some say he can play next week. I think Moncrief has locked down the WR3 role, and if Hilton is out, perhaps they play Dorsett as his direct backup.

 
Maybe I'm off, but as a local, I don't have a lot of faith in Moncrief. He is a big bodied target, but isn't the best route runner, or catcher. With the Hilton injury, and the way the game script went to crap, the Colts should turn to to Gore more. I also think Allen and Fleener will be the bigger beneficiaries of Hilton's short term departure.
That's what I'm worried about too. And it's not like Moncrief could have long-term potential since Hilton is back in a week or 2 at worst it sounds. Still have Johnson and Allen/Fleener to pick up slack. Plus Dorsett as well. Moncrief has some potential, sure, but how much and for how long?

 
I'm trying to figure which QB might be the better pickup (Tannehill owner). A. Smith, T. Taylor, or Nick Foles. My gut says Foles but I didn't get to watch any of these games so I'm not sure how they looked. Anybody watch the games and have opinions on QBs? All my leagues have Mariota and Dalton already rostered.

 
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BlueDredSo said:
Karlos Williams should not be a priority waiver target. He had a good run for a TD but wasn't used all that much. Boobie D got the GL TD and McCoy is going to get used more and more heavily as his hammy feels better.
For those without pressing needs but want a high upside handcuff, he is my no. 1 priority.

 
BlueDredSo said:
Karlos Williams should not be a priority waiver target. He had a good run for a TD but wasn't used all that much. Boobie D got the GL TD and McCoy is going to get used more and more heavily as his hammy feels better.
For those without pressing needs but want a high upside handcuff, he is my no. 1 priority.
I was actually about to edit my post and say unless it's a handcuff or dynasty league. I wouldn't pick him up otherwise for now.

 
MattFancy said:
chad in Indy said:
Maybe I'm off, but as a local, I don't have a lot of faith in Moncrief. He is a big bodied target, but isn't the best route runner, or catcher. With the Hilton injury, and the way the game script went to crap, the Colts should turn to to Gore more. I also think Allen and Fleener will be the bigger beneficiaries of Hilton's short term departure.
That's what I'm worried about too. And it's not like Moncrief could have long-term potential since Hilton is back in a week or 2 at worst it sounds. Still have Johnson and Allen/Fleener to pick up slack. Plus Dorsett as well. Moncrief has some potential, sure, but how much and for how long?
One nit I'd toss out there: Andre Johnson is not Andre Johnson anymore. If folks think this is Moncrief's chance to take more of a role so that when Hilton comes back that it also means stealing some of AJ's targets, that would be a good hold for the long-term as well.

 
shadyridr said:
ponchsox said:
I really surprised Terrance Williams isn't being talked about more. He could blow up without Dez.
cuz he was drafted in every league
He wasn't in mine (short benches). Y'all think he's a must add? Roto still only projects him as a WR3.

 
I'm leaning towards Eifert more and more over Moncrief as of this afternoon. My league doesn't require a starting TE so Eifert is out there and I'm thinking as the #2 option he's going to get a lot more action than Moncreif over the rest of the season

 
You know you're in a deep league when the "custom waiver report" consists entirely of this:

TE Darren Fells (blind bid: 1%) - The Cardinals use the tight end as a receiver? Unpossible! The other Fells, Darren, made a big play and also had a short score to complement the high-flying vertical passing attack. It's probably a fluke, but if you are at a loss at tight end, the Bears matchup is good for Fells this week.
 
shadyridr said:
ponchsox said:
I really surprised Terrance Williams isn't being talked about more. He could blow up without Dez.
cuz he was drafted in every league
He wasn't in mine (short benches). Y'all think he's a must add? Roto still only projects him as a WR3.
I don't know if he'll blow up but what's the harm in adding a guy who has floor of WR3 with upside for more?

Obviously this is 12 team or more. If you're in a smaller league the dynamics are different.

 
shadyridr said:
ponchsox said:
I really surprised Terrance Williams isn't being talked about more. He could blow up without Dez.
cuz he was drafted in every league
He wasn't in mine (short benches). Y'all think he's a must add? Roto still only projects him as a WR3.
I don't know if he'll blow up but what's the harm in adding a guy who has floor of WR3 with upside for more?

Obviously this is 12 team or more. If you're in a smaller league the dynamics are different.
No harm. Just other guys out there like Jones.

 
MattFancy said:
chad in Indy said:
Maybe I'm off, but as a local, I don't have a lot of faith in Moncrief. He is a big bodied target, but isn't the best route runner, or catcher. With the Hilton injury, and the way the game script went to crap, the Colts should turn to to Gore more. I also think Allen and Fleener will be the bigger beneficiaries of Hilton's short term departure.
That's what I'm worried about too. And it's not like Moncrief could have long-term potential since Hilton is back in a week or 2 at worst it sounds. Still have Johnson and Allen/Fleener to pick up slack. Plus Dorsett as well. Moncrief has some potential, sure, but how much and for how long?
One nit I'd toss out there: Andre Johnson is not Andre Johnson anymore. If folks think this is Moncrief's chance to take more of a role so that when Hilton comes back that it also means stealing some of AJ's targets, that would be a good hold for the long-term as well.
I don't think the bolded is a huge leap by any means.

The other dynamic is remember FF production is fluid. I remember the first week I posted here people were ripping me apart because I said Marvin Harrison would never be elite again (he wasn't.) Andre has had an awesome career but he is at that precise age when many career pro bowl WRs see a sharp drop in production. Dude was WR41 and had his lowest averages in like a decade - sooner or later, they all slow down. Plus it's not like he's got years of trust built up with Luck.

Conversely, don't write off young guys because they come into the league with warts. Not everyone is Julio/A.J./Odell right out of the gate. But guys do develop into better players. Or they have the talent and have only lacked opportunity. I was down on Moncrief this year and didn't take a flyer on him, but last month's opinion is old news. Production is production, doesn't matter how pretty or crisp it looks. Guy is in a volume offense, you have a chance to get a piece of that cheap, go for it.

 
You Moncreif guys like Dorsett at all? Think he might end up contributing too at some point?
I have both in a dynasty league.....I think Dorsett has more big play potential and will definitely benefit if Hilton sits a game or two. I think Moncrief gets more snaps than Dorsett, (2 wide vs 3 wide) but Dorsett can hit the home run on any play like Hilton.

Not sure what to do about Monday night as who does Revis cover? If I could be sure it was Johnson, I'd play Moncrief....if it's Moncrief, I'd play Dorsett.

 
Still not sure why everyone is calling Andre Johnson finished. Hopkins surpassed him no doubt but he caught 85 balls last year for 936 with some pretty mediocre QB play. And he's only a year removed from back-to-back 1,400 yard seasons. Clearly he won't recapture that kind of production but with such a huge upgrade at QB I think it is a little premature to call him finished.

 
Still not sure why everyone is calling Andre Johnson finished. Hopkins surpassed him no doubt but he caught 85 balls last year for 936 with some pretty mediocre QB play. And he's only a year removed from back-to-back 1,400 yard seasons. Clearly he won't recapture that kind of production but with such a huge upgrade at QB I think it is a little premature to call him finished.
They aren't saying he IS finished. They are saying there is a reason (TY injury) to pick up guys that normally would not be rostered PLUS there is the possibility that AJ tapers off and is finished. Or for that matter, I don't think it's been said, but AJ pulls a hammy like he has every other year, and Moncrief and Dorsett end up being the 2 & 3 even when Hilton is back. There are a lot of upside scenarios to them in Indy.

 
What's the consensus on the better add: Moncrief or Terr Williams?

I personally would say Moncrief is the better choice with the Hilton injury and Andre looking slow in the 1st game.

 
MattFancy said:
chad in Indy said:
Maybe I'm off, but as a local, I don't have a lot of faith in Moncrief. He is a big bodied target, but isn't the best route runner, or catcher. With the Hilton injury, and the way the game script went to crap, the Colts should turn to to Gore more. I also think Allen and Fleener will be the bigger beneficiaries of Hilton's short term departure.
That's what I'm worried about too. And it's not like Moncrief could have long-term potential since Hilton is back in a week or 2 at worst it sounds. Still have Johnson and Allen/Fleener to pick up slack. Plus Dorsett as well. Moncrief has some potential, sure, but how much and for how long?
One nit I'd toss out there: Andre Johnson is not Andre Johnson anymore. If folks think this is Moncrief's chance to take more of a role so that when Hilton comes back that it also means stealing some of AJ's targets, that would be a good hold for the long-term as well.
I don't think the bolded is a huge leap by any means.

The other dynamic is remember FF production is fluid. I remember the first week I posted here people were ripping me apart because I said Marvin Harrison would never be elite again (he wasn't.) Andre has had an awesome career but he is at that precise age when many career pro bowl WRs see a sharp drop in production. Dude was WR41 and had his lowest averages in like a decade - sooner or later, they all slow down. Plus it's not like he's got years of trust built up with Luck.

Conversely, don't write off young guys because they come into the league with warts. Not everyone is Julio/A.J./Odell right out of the gate. But guys do develop into better players. Or they have the talent and have only lacked opportunity. I was down on Moncrief this year and didn't take a flyer on him, but last month's opinion is old news. Production is production, doesn't matter how pretty or crisp it looks. Guy is in a volume offense, you have a chance to get a piece of that cheap, go for it.
This is what I am thinking. I am putting in a bid for Moncrief purely for the potential. I am not doing it just because TY is hurt. That will be a nice bump for a week or two. I see him having value long term. He could very easily be the #2 in a very high volume passing offense. Based on this weeks game there doesn't seem to be anyone for that role.

 
What's the consensus on the better add: Moncrief or Terr Williams?

I personally would say Moncrief is the better choice with the Hilton injury and Andre looking slow in the 1st game.
Hilton may or not be out any games and Dez is missing at least 4 and possibly 6 or 7 so the Dez injury is a way bigger factor than the Hilton injury.

 
Skoo said:
Thoughts on PPR TE pickups? Botched TE pretty badly in one league.

Right now I have waivers in this order:

ASJ

Ladarius Green

Vernon Davis

(Eifert, Reed not available)
ASJ is a freak but he benefited with Evans out. I do not think he'll see 8 targets on a regular basis and if I was in a pinch at TE I'd be looking at Green first. Even though there's a chance he disappears when Gates comes back I'd rather have him over ASJ for weeks 2-4 (assuming Evans comes back) plus who knows, maybe he solidifies his role in the meantime.

I put Davis in the Ertz/Ebron/Allen category, it's hard to differentiate. I do like how often Ertz was targeted (8 times) even though he only caught 3 of those targets. Not sure if that volume is sustainable but I like the upside.

 
I am hurting at wr with Dez out but I am hesitant to bid too much on Moncrief. I love the Indy passing offense but there are so many targets to feed. What are you guys willing to bid for Moncrief?

 
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Never play in a 12 man league that must start 2 QBs. Whoever thought this was a good idea is an idiot. There are zero QBs to pickup on waivers.

 
Never play in a 12 man league that must start 2 QBs. Whoever thought this was a good idea is an idiot. There are zero QBs to pickup on waivers.
That's just logistics really. If every team had 2 starters and a backup, that's 36 qbs. Can't do 2qb with 12. Have to go superflex.

 
Really confused at the disconnect between Dodds and Bloom on Cunningham. Bloom has him as a 1% budget pickup, Dodds projects him as the #2 RB this week.

 
BlueDredSo said:
Karlos Williams should not be a priority waiver target. He had a good run for a TD but wasn't used all that much. Boobie D got the GL TD and McCoy is going to get used more and more heavily as his hammy feels better.
I couldn't disagree more.

This is a Rex Ryan kid, and one step away from being the main guy in Buffalo.

I think he will have a legitimate role in the offense going forward. He has looked solid thus far.

 
shadyridr said:
ponchsox said:
I really surprised Terrance Williams isn't being talked about more. He could blow up without Dez.
cuz he was drafted in every league
I've got the #1 pick and I'm grabbing him. He's there, Jones is not. Moncrief there too, but I already have Hilton. Would rather have Williams. Dez will be out half the season.

10 team

 
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Really confused at the disconnect between Dodds and Bloom on Cunningham. Bloom has him as a 1% budget pickup, Dodds projects him as the #2 RB this week.
Cunningham expected to keep putting up points? I picked him up last minute just to do it
Very weird to see that ranking, and even though they play the Skins, it's a road game. I think the bulk of that may simply be projecting the catches and resulting yardage, plus their assigned probability to a rush TD.

Still, it's unexpected and has me rethinking dropping Cunningham (who I picked up last week as a WTH flex in PPR) for someone like Moncrief or CJohnson.

 
Really confused at the disconnect between Dodds and Bloom on Cunningham. Bloom has him as a 1% budget pickup, Dodds projects him as the #2 RB this week.
Not really sure that there is a disconnect. How much of your ww budget would you spend on a back that may be a top 5 back week 2 of the NFL season, but then never start again? He likely doesn't have a whole lot of value going forward.

 

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