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kyoun1e said:
Need help with a flex. PPR league.

* L. Fournette @LAR -- TB has been pass happy especially around the goal line. Don't see a ton of upside, but could have a 8-10 point floor in PPR. Gio a non-factor. Could see 50 yards rushing, a couple receptions, maybe luck out with a rushing TD (finally).

OR

* M. Pittman @TN -- Pittman had a great week 2 and would appear to be a clear #1 WR now. The TN secondary is horrendous. Normally I'd go with Pittman here, but the Wentz situation makes this iffy. Latest reports indicate Wentz is starting, but I question if he'll be effective and/or will they focus on the run.

Note: I'm projected to win by 18 (after my opponent got screwed with CMC injury).

Which one?

Thanks in advance!
Fournette

 
1/2 Point PPR

J. Rob vs Arizona

Harris vs NO

White vs NO

Gordon vs NYJ
Tough call, I lean Harris but I haven't been following his injury situation.

White has the highest floor for sure.

Gordon has a great matchup and I generally hate discounting his biggest play but that 70 yard TD feels fluky. Still I would expect him to get a couple shots at a TD.

Robinsons usage has me concerned. At some point you would think it.is going to change but will that be vs Arizona and that high flying offense. I am not confident this is the week.

Harris>White>Gordon>>>Robinson

I could see my opinion flip flopping several times on this.

 
Tough call, I lean Harris but I haven't been following his injury situation.

White has the highest floor for sure.

Gordon has a great matchup and I generally hate discounting his biggest play but that 70 yard TD feels fluky. Still I would expect him to get a couple shots at a TD.

Robinsons usage has me concerned. At some point you would think it.is going to change but will that be vs Arizona and that high flying offense. I am not confident this is the week.

Harris>White>Gordon>>>Robinson

I could see my opinion flip flopping several times on this.
Yeah that's my dilemma...I think White might be a better play than Harris (especially if RS is active for this game) as far as safety for points go especially against NO run D...think passes may be the way to go....Gordon would have highest upside IMO but Williams caps that upside...I agree Gordon probably has the best chance for a TD.  I will probably go back and forth all morning tomorrow   

 
PPR:

Sanders, Pittman (only if Carson starts), Gainwell or Pollard.

Normally it would be Sanders in a walk, but not liking the RBBC with Gainwell (especially in the passing game).

 
PPR:

Sanders, Pittman (only if Carson starts), Gainwell or Pollard.

Normally it would be Sanders in a walk, but not liking the RBBC with Gainwell (especially in the passing game).


Pittman, he's still the #1 target there so whether its carson or not he should still get enough volume to be a decent play

 
I have a dilemma with my flex PPR since I have crap RB depth

my current options are

Gainwell
Callaway
Cedric wilson
Elijah moore
Van Jefferson
Felton (yuck)

damn that vikings game to be the late game, if I know for sure cook is not going I have mattison ready to fire up

I think given my crappy options I might punt on the other options and risk it to the late game and worse come to worse just roll with jefferson

 
PPR:

Sanders, Pittman (only if Carson starts), Gainwell or Pollard.

Normally it would be Sanders in a walk, but not liking the RBBC with Gainwell (especially in the passing game).
Pollard could be a mirage but he looks so darn good. Even if Wentz starts will he finish? They brought Hundley to the active roster.

Miles Sanders doesn't seem to be in a huge timeshare (there are very few CMCs & Henrys for a reason), certainly not worse than Pollard's, but I thought Sanders had an injury status designation. I also am not sold on the Philly offense under Hurts yet.

I lean Pollard at home then Sanders. 

 
I have a dilemma with my flex PPR since I have crap RB depth

my current options are

Gainwell
Callaway
Cedric wilson
Elijah moore
Van Jefferson
Felton (yuck)

damn that vikings game to be the late game, if I know for sure cook is not going I have mattison ready to fire up

I think given my crappy options I might punt on the other options and risk it to the late game and worse come to worse just roll with jefferson
I’d roll with Gainwell. He’ll get you some receptions in what may be a shootout and is also sometimes used in the red zone.

 
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I have a dilemma with my flex PPR since I have crap RB depth

my current options are

Gainwell
Callaway
Cedric wilson
Elijah moore
Van Jefferson
Felton (yuck)

damn that vikings game to be the late game, if I know for sure cook is not going I have mattison ready to fire up

I think given my crappy options I might punt on the other options and risk it to the late game and worse come to worse just roll with jefferson
I agree. Jefferson has a shot at a long TD at least. And Mattison may be a decent play even if Cook starts. I think (hope?) the Vikings may be realizing they are overusing Cook.

 
here's another fun ppr one pick 2 out of these guys 

Gibson
Hollywood brown
devonta smith
tyson williams
kirk
pollard

yes i'm seriously considering benching my RB2 on this one because he's not being used on hurry up like the coaches said they were going to plus with the negative game script he probably needs to score to come away with a decent day

 
For Flex in Half PPR -

Sermon vs GB?

Gordon vs NYJ?

JRob vs AZ?
ouch.....

first off I wouldnt trust sermon yet, he has to prove it

jrob will probably get some catches but everything about jax is just weird

dont love gordon but like one poster mentioned above he seems to have the trust of the coaching staff so for this week I would go with him, with jrob close 2nd if you need the upside

 
For Flex in Half PPR -

Sermon vs GB?

Gordon vs NYJ?

JRob vs AZ?
Sermon or Gordon, it really depends on your risk tolerance.

Robinson should see more touches in Jacksonville but until it actually happens I have difficulty training sting him.

It's difficult to trust Sermon too but it looks like he is going to get the start and Shanahan does feed his lead back. It is important to note the Niners just activated Kerryon Johnson. I don't think that means anything but you never know. I do worry that Shanahan doesn't entirely trust Sermon yet. I think it adds some fun if you're rolling with such an unknown into SNF.

Gordon is the safest bet, has the best matchup and is most likely to find the end zone. He somewhat surprisingly still has some long speed left too.

 
here's another fun ppr one pick 2 out of these guys 

Gibson
Hollywood brown
devonta smith
tyson williams
kirk
pollard

yes i'm seriously considering benching my RB2 on this one because he's not being used on hurry up like the coaches said they were going to plus with the negative game script he probably needs to score to come away with a decent day
IMO you gotta roll with Brown in Detroit. He is seeing enough volume and the Detroit D is very vulnerable.

I don't see how you can bench Gibson but, if you do, I like what I am seeing from Ty'son Williams. He's getting touches, looks good and has a great matchup.

Gibson may not catch a ton bit he's getting 20 opportunities/game that's important.

 
I have a dilemma with my flex PPR since I have crap RB depth

my current options are

Gainwell
Callaway
Cedric wilson
Elijah moore
Van Jefferson
Felton (yuck)

damn that vikings game to be the late game, if I know for sure cook is not going I have mattison ready to fire up

I think given my crappy options I might punt on the other options and risk it to the late game and worse come to worse just roll with jefferson
FYI Ameer Abdullah was promoted to the active roster. To me, that suggests they are worried about Cook.

 
IMO you gotta roll with Brown in Detroit. He is seeing enough volume and the Detroit D is very vulnerable.

I don't see how you can bench Gibson but, if you do, I like what I am seeing from Ty'son Williams. He's getting touches, looks good and has a great matchup.

Gibson may not catch a ton bit he's getting 20 opportunities/game that's important.
yep I totally get it about gibson getting close to 20 touches a game but those 20 have gotten like 10pts per game even on ppr and I just dont see him breaking out against BUF

I need upside this week with that team being 0-2 even with the 3rd highest points in the league lol, so chances are I'm gonna roll with tyson and hollywood

 
Chaka said:
Pittman seems like the obvious choice to me. Indianapolis may be off to a deeply concerning start but he does seem to be the clear lead WR.

Then again I have no idea who Uncle Lenny is so, sure start that guy.
Uncle Lenny Fournette

 
kyoun1e said:
Need help with a flex. PPR league.

* L. Fournette @LAR -- TB has been pass happy especially around the goal line. Don't see a ton of upside, but could have a 8-10 point floor in PPR. Gio a non-factor. Could see 50 yards rushing, a couple receptions, maybe luck out with a rushing TD (finally).

OR

* M. Pittman @TN -- Pittman had a great week 2 and would appear to be a clear #1 WR now. The TN secondary is horrendous. Normally I'd go with Pittman here, but the Wentz situation makes this iffy. Latest reports indicate Wentz is starting, but I question if he'll be effective and/or will they focus on the run.

Note: I'm projected to win by 18 (after my opponent got screwed with CMC injury).

Which one?

Thanks in advance!


Chaka said:
This is a surprisingly tough call. They spread the ball all over the field in Tampa so you can't know who will have a big game.

However Fournette is the clear lead back on the best offense in the league. He is only getting 10 carries/game but he is getting a surprising 5 targets/game as well. That helps make him less TD dependent in your PPR.

You hit the nail in the head with Pittman. #1 guy but confusion at QB.

Gotta be honest this feels like a coin toss. I think I lean Fournette but barely.


Uncle Lenny Fournette

 
PPR, WR & TE is a combined position

Kyle Pitts @ NYG(Gage is out) or James White v N.O. or Trey Sermon v G.B.?

ETA: added Sermon because Shanahan loves to feed my agita
Had White in my lineup (he's clearly the safest option) just swapped him out for Pitts.

Can't start Sermon.

 
Thx. Rams play TB and everyone is scared of them against the run. Losing a starter on their D line seemed noteworthy. 
Ram-Bucs is gonna be a shootout. There will be some rushing TDs. Who gets them, and for which team? No idea. Gonna be a great game!

 
Need a little bit of help with some strategery.

Standard (non-PPR) and I need to fill 2 slots: RB and Flex

Playable options are: Damien Harris (vs NO), Clyde Edwards-Helaire (vs LAC), Trey Sermon (vs GB), Rondale Moore (vs Jax), Tyler Boyd (vs Pit)

The tricky thing is, I’m also relying on Amari Cooper as one of my WRs, and his status is still foggy (or he’ll be a decoy) for Monday night. So if I play Moore or Boyd, I can slide Cooper into Flex and swap in Tony Pollard on Monday if needed. If I play two of the RBs above (Harris, Edwards-Helaire, Sermon), I’m locked into Cooper for Monday night with no backup plan.

Thoughts? I think CEH+Sermon is my best pairing, but I’m not sure if I should swap one for a WR so I have some flexibility

 
Need a little bit of help with some strategery.

Standard (non-PPR) and I need to fill 2 slots: RB and Flex

Playable options are: Damien Harris (vs NO), Clyde Edwards-Helaire (vs LAC), Trey Sermon (vs GB), Rondale Moore (vs Jax), Tyler Boyd (vs Pit)

The tricky thing is, I’m also relying on Amari Cooper as one of my WRs, and his status is still foggy (or he’ll be a decoy) for Monday night. So if I play Moore or Boyd, I can slide Cooper into Flex and swap in Tony Pollard on Monday if needed. If I play two of the RBs above (Harris, Edwards-Helaire, Sermon), I’m locked into Cooper for Monday night with no backup plan.

Thoughts? I think CEH+Sermon is my best pairing, but I’m not sure if I should swap one for a WR so I have some flexibility
Harris and Sermon.  You don't have to play Cooper

 
0.5 PPR 1 Flex - choices for flex - C. Edmunds (at Jax), Rondale Moore (at Jax), M. Jones (vs. Ari), D. Swift (vs Bal).  League Dominator is all over the place on this one.  One even wants me to pick up L. Murray (at Det).

 
Half PPR - needing upside so will be putting Mattison in my flex over Jamaal Williams, but if Cook is a surprise active, who do I pick out of these:

  • Jefferson vs Bucs
  • Edwards vs Dolphins
  • Watkins @ Cowboys
Probably ruling out Edwards as it doesn't look like a great game script. Only have Watkins on the roster as an emergency play if Cooper doesn't start. Rams/Bucs should at least be high scoring so maybe go Van Jefferson?

 
Justin Fields or Derek Carr as QB2 in a Superflex league??
How could it not be Carr?

I know he's got an ankle but he's been playing lights out. They don't have much of a running game with Jacobs out and Drake really excels as a receiver.

I know people expect Fields to be supplement his get with rushing stats but that wasn't a huge part of his game in college. Sure, he's mobile but he's more Jacoby Brisset in that regard than Cam Newton or Deshaun Watson.

He seems like a smart QB who uses his mobility to extend plays before tucking and running.

He also has a tough road matchup while Carr has a favorable home game.

 
Assuming Henderson is out, Michel or Javonte? JPP ruled out. 
Has Henderson been ruled out? I read it was an issue of pain tolerance for whether or not he was going to play.

If he's out I can absolutely see starting him but I really don't like the matchup. TB can take away opposing running games with their defense and their offense. I am not sure I trust Michel to be a factor in the passing game. Then again we have never seen him in a McVay offense.

Javonte has a defined role and has a very favorable matchup (trap game?). He has been running strong so far too. But Melvin is a big part of this offense too and his presence caps Javonte.

I like Javonte better as a player but I probably lean Michel.

 
How could it not be Carr?

I know he's got an ankle but he's been playing lights out. They don't have much of a running game with Jacobs out and Drake really excels as a receiver.

I know people expect Fields to be supplement his get with rushing stats but that wasn't a huge part of his game in college. Sure, he's mobile but he's more Jacoby Brisset in that regard than Cam Newton or Deshaun Watson.

He seems like a smart QB who uses his mobility to extend plays before tucking and running.

He also has a tough road matchup while Carr has a favorable home game.
I agree with this overall but we did see his rushing be a significant factor in his preseason time. He had 92/1 in what was equal to maybe 1-1.5 full games. Not sure if that matters or is just random small sample, but it was enough to make me wonder. Still, I am playing it safe with Carr. 

 
Need a little bit of help with some strategery.

Standard (non-PPR) and I need to fill 2 slots: RB and Flex

Playable options are: Damien Harris (vs NO), Clyde Edwards-Helaire (vs LAC), Trey Sermon (vs GB), Rondale Moore (vs Jax), Tyler Boyd (vs Pit)

The tricky thing is, I’m also relying on Amari Cooper as one of my WRs, and his status is still foggy (or he’ll be a decoy) for Monday night. So if I play Moore or Boyd, I can slide Cooper into Flex and swap in Tony Pollard on Monday if needed. If I play two of the RBs above (Harris, Edwards-Helaire, Sermon), I’m locked into Cooper for Monday night with no backup plan.

Thoughts? I think CEH+Sermon is my best pairing, but I’m not sure if I should swap one for a WR so I have some flexibility
Why CEH & Sermon over Harris. Harris is getting 21 opportunities/game and looks decent with his touches.

CEH is struggling mightily on one of the best offenses in the league. What % of his runs have had a stacked box? And he still looks bad. I understand the why of CEH but I don't think he can be trusted right now.

Same goes for Sermon. I have him and am, sort of, debating flexing him but we simply don't know enough about him. Healthy scratch week 1, didn't get his first (only) until 4:30 in the 4th quarter last week only after the Niners went up by two scores. That strongly suggests Shanahan doesn't completely trust this guy yet.

So I go with Harris personally.

Even without PPR Boyd seems like the obvious choice for your other spot. He was already getting good usage and now Higgins is out and so is TJ Watt.

 
0.5 PPR 1 Flex - choices for flex - C. Edmunds (at Jax), Rondale Moore (at Jax), M. Jones (vs. Ari), D. Swift (vs Bal).  League Dominator is all over the place on this one.  One even wants me to pick up L. Murray (at Det).
I like Marvin Jones and think he should be an every week starter for most leagues with flex spots until the wheels fall off. Lawrence is struggling but he's throwing a ton, he's locked in on Jones and Jones is producing.

Edmunds is my second choice, he's getting opportunities and his receiving is a big plus. But I think TDs will be hard for him to come by as the goal line package doesn't seem like a big part of his game.

 
Half PPR - needing upside so will be putting Mattison in my flex over Jamaal Williams, but if Cook is a surprise active, who do I pick out of these:

  • Jefferson vs Bucs
  • Edwards vs Dolphins
  • Watkins @ Cowboys
Probably ruling out Edwards as it doesn't look like a great game script. Only have Watkins on the roster as an emergency play if Cooper doesn't start. Rams/Bucs should at least be high scoring so maybe go Van Jefferson?
Quez Watkins? Can't endorse.

I want to say that Edwards is the sneaky play here, he has been inches away from two big TDs and Carr seems to have growing confidence in him.

Van Jefferson does seem like the biggest upside play. That game could be a pinball machine. Of course that means it will be a 13-6 defensive struggle.

Between Jefferson and Edwards, Jefferson has the biggest upside (probably) and the biggest downside (almost definitely).

 
How could it not be Carr?

I know he's got an ankle but he's been playing lights out. They don't have much of a running game with Jacobs out and Drake really excels as a receiver.

I know people expect Fields to be supplement his get with rushing stats but that wasn't a huge part of his game in college. Sure, he's mobile but he's more Jacoby Brisset in that regard than Cam Newton or Deshaun Watson.

He seems like a smart QB who uses his mobility to extend plays before tucking and running.

He also has a tough road matchup while Carr has a favorable home game.
Chaka -

I appreciate your thoughts on the Carr/Fields start ‘debate’. I think Fields is the ‘boom/bust’ play, and like you said Carr is the ‘safe’ play with the favorable home matchup.  

 
I agree with this overall but we did see his rushing be a significant factor in his preseason time. He had 92/1 in what was equal to maybe 1-1.5 full games. Not sure if that matters or is just random small sample, but it was enough to make me wonder. Still, I am playing it safe with Carr. 
And he was 11-34-1 last week. It is definitely part of his game, but his long was 10 yards. He moves around to extend plays then picks up what he can. It's a strong real world QB skill but, as a rusher he is heavily TD dependent.

Carr is much maligned but he is far better over his career than he gets credit for and has been playing at MVP level. He is throwing for scads of yards and the running game is anemic. The Raiders win or lose on Carr's arm.

The biggest concern is his ankle and the offensive line. That line is as patchwork as it gets and Carr is taking too many shots. But he's smart, is reading defenses well and gets rid of the ball quickly.

Plus Carr is at home, Fields is in the Dawg Pound where I don't think they care about what he did at OSU after kickoff.

For me this isn't close.

 
Chaka -

I appreciate your thoughts on the Carr/Fields start ‘debate’. I think Fields is the ‘boom/bust’ play, and like you said Carr is the ‘safe’ play with the favorable home matchup.  
I agree for the most part, where I differ is that I think Carr also has big upside. We know he can hang 400 on anyone and he had been inches shy of two big TDs each game. He's been seriously pushing the ball downfield. He isn't capped at 2 passing TDs.

Having the bigger floor, by leaps and bounds, is just gravy.

 
What are you thinking?? Carr is the safe play right?
Basically what everyone else has said, Carr is the safer play and it's the move I am making. I feel good about my matchup and just can't afford a brick. I started Winston last week and that cost me the week. Lost by less than a point even with Lockett and Aaron Jones going crazy. At this point, I just want someone I can trust for 15-20. 

 
IMPORTANT NOTE ON CARR: I am a long suffering Raiders fan, I also have him as my QB3 (Josh Allen, Justin Herbert) in my 12 team, super-flex redraft. 

So my opinions do carry a certain degree of bias.

However I am loving what I see out of Carr this season enough so that I am trying to move one of my other two QBs.

 
I agree with Carr over Fields. Carr is playing lights out and while Fields brings upside with this rushing, it’s still his first start and he’s facing a reasonably tough Browns defense at the Dawg Pound. 

 
I'm coming into Week 3 with Antonio Brown, Landry, Jeudy, and most likely Higgins on my bench.  I need to play 3 WR and WR/RB and WR/TE flex. So, I'm starting Davante Adams, Thielen and Watkins off the waiver wire against Detroit.

If Higgins is out, my best options for WR/TE are TIm Patrick vs NJY or Logan Thomas @ Buff, both off the waiver.

My dilemma, I've got to drop a player.  Jeudy, Landry, or Michael Carter, my 5th RB? I'm struggling between keeping Landry or Jeudy.  I could resolve by dropping Carter?

Help a guy out.

Edit:  Eh... PPR

 
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