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Week 4 waiver wire pickups (1 Viewer)

Would you use a #1 waiver on Snelling? (for 2nd team in Sig, I know it's not AC but need help.)

Others on WW I'm looking at = Bolden, M.Bush, Holmes, Hill, Avery, N.Washington

 
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Would you use a #1 waiver on Snelling? (for 2nd team in Sig, I know it's not AC but need help.)

Others on WW I'm looking at = Bolden, M.Bush, Holmes, Hill, Avery, N.Washington
I rank Bolden ahead of Snelling. Snelling is in a short-term timeshare with Jacquizz Rodgers, but once Steven Jackson returns from injury, Snelling's value will be very limited.

 
socrates said:
CJ Anderson - Denver needs a back who can reliably pound the ball into a defense. Neither Moreno nor Hillman fit the bill, and Ball may not be able to be trusted. It is a crowded backfield, and Anderson has done nothing yet, but he is at least a speculative add in deep leagues. Denver should have ample opportunity to run out the clock in games, and they do not want a repeat of last year's playoff game against the Ravens.
This website needs a separate forum for Fourth String Denver Running Backs Who Get Way Too Much Hype And Never Make A Fantasy Impact. There's at least one every year.
Not going to argue about your concept - but who is the worst guy on your roster right now? What's he likely to produce and how many starts will he likely get on your team? It maybe that the Lottto ticket may be better than a guy currently playing.
There are over a hundred "lotto ticket" players on various NFL rosters right now. But for some reason this forum is obsessed with applying that designation disproportionally to 3rd and 4th string running backs for the Denver Broncos.
 
gbill2004 said:
Broyles is this weeks number 1 WW priority in all leagues.
Maybe in redraft leagues, but not in dynasty leagues. He's on a roster in every one of my dynasty leagues.
I picked him up last week in 2 of my 4 leagues.
Must be shallow roster leagues then, because he's not available in all 10 of my dynasty leagues, all of which have anywhere from 22 to 26 man rosters.
Must be redraft

 
socrates said:
CJ Anderson - Denver needs a back who can reliably pound the ball into a defense. Neither Moreno nor Hillman fit the bill, and Ball may not be able to be trusted. It is a crowded backfield, and Anderson has done nothing yet, but he is at least a speculative add in deep leagues. Denver should have ample opportunity to run out the clock in games, and they do not want a repeat of last year's playoff game against the Ravens.
This website needs a separate forum for Fourth String Denver Running Backs Who Get Way Too Much Hype And Never Make A Fantasy Impact. There's at least one every year.
Not going to argue about your concept - but who is the worst guy on your roster right now? What's he likely to produce and how many starts will he likely get on your team? It maybe that the Lottto ticket may be better than a guy currently playing.
There are over a hundred "lotto ticket" players on various NFL rosters right now. But for some reason this forum is obsessed with applying that designation disproportionally to 3rd and 4th string running backs for the Denver Broncos.
Good point - but there are only a handful where the players before them are not being very productive. I would add any of those over the last guy on most rosters. Same reason I would pick up Cunnignam - and carry those 3 over the drudges of roster fodder..

 
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A guy in my league just dropped Chris Givens. Is he worth a stash-and-hope or is the bloom off the rose on the emergence of the St. Louis offense?

 
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A guy in my league just dropped Chris Givens. Is he worth a stash-and-hope or is the bloom off the rose on the emergence of the St. Louis offense?
I am still excited about Givens. I like St. Louis' offense to be a pass-first offense, and I look for Givens to still emerge this season. Right now, Givens is dealing with a sore knee, but I don't believe it is anything to be overly concerned about.

 
LOL at Heath Miller being available indicating a guppy league.

These are not the 2011 Steelers. This Steelers team is a bottom-10 team in the NFL, they are a mess offensively. Even fully healthy, Miller wouldn't crack the top-12 TEs this year.

 
A guy in my league just dropped Chris Givens. Is he worth a stash-and-hope or is the bloom off the rose on the emergence of the St. Louis offense?
I am still excited about Givens. I like St. Louis' offense to be a pass-first offense, and I look for Givens to still emerge this season. Right now, Givens is dealing with a sore knee, but I don't believe it is anything to be overly concerned about.
Two things to consider about Givens. First of all, he tailed off the last few games last year:

Receiving Rushing FantasyWeek Opp Result Target Rec Yard Avg TD Att Yard Avg TD FFPts1 at DET L 23-27 1 0 0 - 0 0 0 - 0 0.02 WAS W 31-28 2 0 0 - 0 0 0 - 0 0.03 at CHI L 6-23 4 2 9 4.5 0 0 0 - 0 0.94 SEA W 19-13 3 1 52 52.0 0 0 0 - 0 5.25 ARI W 17-3 5 1 51 51.0 1 0 0 - 0 11.16 at MIA L 14-17 7 3 85 28.3 0 0 0 - 0 8.57 GB L 20-30 5 3 73 24.3 0 1 14 14.0 0 8.78 NE L 7-45 4 3 63 21.0 1 0 0 - 0 12.311 NYJ L 13-27 7 4 19 4.8 0 0 0 - 0 1.912 at ARI W 31-17 6 5 115 23.0 1 1 1 1.0 0 17.613 SF W 16-13 14 11 92 8.4 0 0 0 - 0 9.214 at BUF W 15-12 10 3 25 8.3 0 1 -3 -3.0 0 2.215 MIN L 22-36 4 1 22 22.0 0 0 0 - 0 2.216 at TB W 28-13 5 3 38 12.7 0 0 0 - 0 3.817 at SEA L 13-20 3 2 54 27.0 0 0 0 - 0 5.4So this year seems like a continuation of that slide:

1 ARI W 27-24 3 2 27 13.5 0 0 0 - 0 2.72 at ATL L 24-31 8 5 105 21.0 0 0 0 - 0 10.53 at DAL L 7-31 8 2 54 27.0 0 1 -4 -4.0 0 5.0http://www.fftoday.com/stats/players/12370/Chris_Givens?LeagueID=1

Also this sobering tidbit about the Ram WRs in general:

Through three weeks, the highest targeted Rams receiver is Austin Pettis, who’s seeing 15.7 percent of team targets. That percentage ranks 65th among wide receivers. In other words, Sam Bradford is spreading the ball around like butter on toast, and we’re seeing little in terms of fantasy value from his wide receivers.

You’re going to see weeks where a Rams wideout will rank as a startable play, but trying to guess which one will become a nightmare. Just to show you how bad this could get, our highest ranked Rams receiver through the end of the season is Tavon Austin, who comes in as the 49th-best option.
https://www.numberfire.com/nfl/news/1184/15-transactions-for-week-4

 
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socrates said:
CJ Anderson - Denver needs a back who can reliably pound the ball into a defense. Neither Moreno nor Hillman fit the bill, and Ball may not be able to be trusted. It is a crowded backfield, and Anderson has done nothing yet, but he is at least a speculative add in deep leagues. Denver should have ample opportunity to run out the clock in games, and they do not want a repeat of last year's playoff game against the Ravens.
This website needs a separate forum for Fourth String Denver Running Backs Who Get Way Too Much Hype And Never Make A Fantasy Impact. There's at least one every year.
Not going to argue about your concept - but who is the worst guy on your roster right now? What's he likely to produce and how many starts will he likely get on your team? It maybe that the Lottto ticket may be better than a guy currently playing.
There are over a hundred "lotto ticket" players on various NFL rosters right now. But for some reason this forum is obsessed with applying that designation disproportionally to 3rd and 4th string running backs for the Denver Broncos.
Good point - but there are only a handful where the players before them are not being very productive. I would add any of those over the last guy on most rosters. Same reason I would pick up Cunnignam - and carry those 3 over the drudges of roster fodder..
If this is the argument for CJ Anderson as a preferred lottery ticket, it's a bad one. None of the Denver RBs are being productive (in a statistical sense) precisely because they're in a three headed committee. Even though we might see them as underwhelming talents, when taken together, their production is more than fine for what this offense needs (and let's not forget this is a very pass centric offense). None of them are injured and they all have a role, which seems to vary from week to week. Those viewing Anderson as a sharky stash seem to think that when he gets on the field he will either run away with a lead back job because he is better than the other guys (extremely unlikely), or that the Broncos actually need his production to be successful because the three guys there now are underperforming. Obviously that's just not true. All Anderson does is potentially make this a 4 headed committee unless someone gets injured - even if he played well, there's almost zero chance he'll be startable on your fantasy team this year (it's more understandable in dynasty but still not a no-brainer). And yet we're being told that he's a good stash and you should pick him up now before he comes back. I just doesn't make much sense - I have to think there are better swing for the fences lottery tickets.

 
gbill2004 said:
Broyles is this weeks number 1 WW priority in all leagues.
Maybe in redraft leagues, but not in dynasty leagues. He's on a roster in every one of my dynasty leagues.
I picked him up last week in 2 of my 4 leagues.
Must be shallow roster leagues then, because he's not available in all 10 of my dynasty leagues, all of which have anywhere from 22 to 26 man rosters.
Must be redraft
1 redraft and 1 contract league.

 
The guys that Im looking at this week, best available in my league basically, are

Bolden

Sidney Rice

Holmes

Hill

Broyles

Jeffery

Britt

I have the 3rd waiver priority, and Im thinking none of these guys is worth it except for possibly Bolden. I have Vereen, so I cant decide if that means it makes more or less sense for me to pick up Bolden. I honestly have no clue which of those WRs I prefer, which is basically why I dont think any of them are worth a waiver request. I dropped Jeffery last week, and of course then Cutler proceeded to feed him targets on SNF. Im only considering Britt because if he gets traded to DET he could be money.

Either way, one way or another Stills, Ellington, and likely Roberts is getting dropped for 2-3 of these guys.

 
socrates said:
CJ Anderson - Denver needs a back who can reliably pound the ball into a defense. Neither Moreno nor Hillman fit the bill, and Ball may not be able to be trusted. It is a crowded backfield, and Anderson has done nothing yet, but he is at least a speculative add in deep leagues. Denver should have ample opportunity to run out the clock in games, and they do not want a repeat of last year's playoff game against the Ravens.
This website needs a separate forum for Fourth String Denver Running Backs Who Get Way Too Much Hype And Never Make A Fantasy Impact. There's at least one every year.
Not going to argue about your concept - but who is the worst guy on your roster right now? What's he likely to produce and how many starts will he likely get on your team? It maybe that the Lottto ticket may be better than a guy currently playing.
There are over a hundred "lotto ticket" players on various NFL rosters right now. But for some reason this forum is obsessed with applying that designation disproportionally to 3rd and 4th string running backs for the Denver Broncos.
Good point - but there are only a handful where the players before them are not being very productive. I would add any of those over the last guy on most rosters. Same reason I would pick up Cunnignam - and carry those 3 over the drudges of roster fodder..
If this is the argument for CJ Anderson as a preferred lottery ticket, it's a bad one. None of the Denver RBs are being productive (in a statistical sense) precisely because they're in a three headed committee. Even though we might see them as underwhelming talents, when taken together, their production is more than fine for what this offense needs (and let's not forget this is a very pass centric offense). None of them are injured and they all have a role, which seems to vary from week to week. Those viewing Anderson as a sharky stash seem to think that when he gets on the field he will either run away with a lead back job because he is better than the other guys (extremely unlikely), or that the Broncos actually need his production to be successful because the three guys there now are underperforming. Obviously that's just not true. All Anderson does is potentially make this a 4 headed committee unless someone gets injured - even if he played well, there's almost zero chance he'll be startable on your fantasy team this year (it's more understandable in dynasty but still not a no-brainer). And yet we're being told that he's a good stash and you should pick him up now before he comes back. I just doesn't make much sense - I have to think there are better swing for the fences lottery tickets.
I am arguing the concept - not the value of Anderson - put whoevers name in there you want - I would rather have a swing for the fences guy as my last roster spot than a proven 50 recept, 600 yards, 5 td guy. For some people the lotto ticket is Anderson

 
I'm using my #2 WW on Santonio Holmes.

He played 3 full games last season (injured in week 4) and 2 full games this season (played very limited snaps week 1). His averages in those 5 games (and 5 games is damn near 33% of a season) are:

4.8 receptions

89.6 yards

.4 TD

For a season that would be:

77 rec

1,435 yards

6 TD

Marty Mornhiweg loves throwing the ball and Geno has the arm to make plays happen. You don't get -2 for Geno's interceptions, so Holmes could be a huge pickup from here forward.

 
I am arguing the concept - not the value of Anderson - put whoevers name in there you want - I would rather have a swing for the fences guy as my last roster spot than a proven 50 recept, 600 yards, 5 td guy. For some people the lotto ticket is Anderson
I think that entire concept is flawed. You're overvaluing one factor (he's an unknown!) while undervaluing far more important factors (he's the 4th string RB, he's a rookie, he hasn't even been active for 2 out of 3 games this year, etc.).

You're reading too much into what you DON'T know, while ignoring the facts that you DO know. It's like the fantasy equivalent of 9/11 conspiracy theories.

For comparison, look no further than Jeremiah Johnson, another Broncos 4th-stringer who was pimped as a "lottery ticket" by numerous posters here.

 
I am arguing the concept - not the value of Anderson - put whoevers name in there you want - I would rather have a swing for the fences guy as my last roster spot than a proven 50 recept, 600 yards, 5 td guy. For some people the lotto ticket is Anderson
I think that entire concept is flawed. You're overvaluing one factor (he's an unknown!) while undervaluing far more important factors (he's the 4th string RB, he's a rookie, he hasn't even been active for 2 out of 3 games this year, etc.).

You're reading too much into what you DON'T know, while ignoring the facts that you DO know. It's like the fantasy equivalent of 9/11 conspiracy theories.

For comparison, look no further than Jeremiah Johnson, another Broncos 4th-stringer who was pimped as a "lottery ticket" by numerous posters here.
Again, I am not arguing the value of Anderson - which I clearly stated - I am arguing that I would rather have a gamble type player than a known entity of mediocrity - choose your player - for some it's Anderson - for some it would be somebody else.

For fun, please post the name of the player that would be the first one you would cut to make an acquisition - and you may be the exception and may have a deeper team than most. But most people are carrying some guy with minimal upside - I choose to dump that guy in favor of potential (even long shot potential).

 
Buck Bradcanon said:
MattFancy said:
I want to scoop up Bolden, but not sure who to drop.

My bench: MWilliams, Givens, RWhite, Ball, Hunter (Gore owner), PThomas, Fleener
Ball. 2 fumbles, 3 (4?) RBs on the Denver roster and they are a passing team. I own both Ball and Bolden fwiw.
I have a tougher decision ... Drop McGhee for Bolden
I'll be dropping PThomas or Bryce Brown for the claim. Wavering.
 
Broyles, Heath Miller, Bolden, and Hartline are available in my league. Would you cut Marlon Brown for any of those 4?
These questions are never easy as there are too many variables - what are your other WR's, how are you at RB, at TE?

Not that I want you to answer those.

I would cut Brown for Hartline or Bolden.

 
I hate how Yahoo now shows the most added players right in the middle of your league screen now. Of course, Broyles face is firmly planted at the top of that list for this week :rant:

 
I'm dropping Givens for Bolden on my RB injury-riddled team (Rice, Bush, Vereen). It's a move I'm essentially forced to make.

 
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The khiry Robinson post is intriguing. Anyone deer how he looked in limited action today? His stats looked great, but I wondered if he passed the eye ball test
He looks very quick, breaks tackles , good vision good burst of speed , I swear he is probably the most natural looking ball carrier on the current roster. He probably has a lot to learn as far as blocking or screen plays and such but the kid runs very hard and wont be denied. He is what we had hoped Ingram would have been. Ingram is done IMO as a Saint after this kid showed what he did.
Yeah i guess the problem is he might not be involved at all in the passing game, which would make him pretty uninteresting in PPR leagues, when combined with the fact that this is such a pass heavy team. Having said that, if Ingram gets traded, he should be worth picking up regardless.
Thinking of taking a flyer on Khiry Robinson (5% of budget) and dropping I Pead (16 team non-ppr) - currently have Gore, Giovani, and Snelling w/ Hunter + Pierre Thomas for backup
 
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Is Jonathon Franklin getting heavy action in anyone else's leagues? Especially in terms of FAAB/blind bidding?
I wanted to ask about this guy too but I'm afraid nobody really knows what the Packers' plans are (if they have any).

It's hard to imagine him staying 3rd on the depth chart as good as he looked vs a stout Bengals D, even with the fumble.

Is he a better stash than Monte Ball?

 
Is Jonathon Franklin getting heavy action in anyone else's leagues? Especially in terms of FAAB/blind bidding?
Rostered last week in one league and pulled off the waivers this week in another. Can't speak to FAAB/bidding, but the Lacy owner in one league used his #1 priority.

 
Ridley was just dropped in my 10 teamer where you can only roster 4 RB's max. (Stupid rule)

Would love to pick him up, but just can't do it with Martin, Richardson, Bush and J.Bell.

 
Dropped V.Brown for Bess just on a hunch maybe if Gordon gets traded Bess may pan out as a decent play on ppr

 
Is Jonathon Franklin getting heavy action in anyone else's leagues? Especially in terms of FAAB/blind bidding?
I wanted to ask about this guy too but I'm afraid nobody really knows what the Packers' plans are (if they have any).

It's hard to imagine him staying 3rd on the depth chart as good as he looked vs a stout Bengals D, even with the fumble.

Is he a better stash than Monte Ball?
It's up in the air at this point, but my guess is Lacy will see the majority of carries upon returning since the coaching staff had enough confidence to start him out of the gate, and obviously his talent. Franklin was a talented player at UCLA and a lot of people were surprised when he fell to the 4th round of the draft. He looks like a good fit for the system, and think at the very least might have carved out a role as the 3rd down/COP back. If Lacy comes back and fails to produce to the level Starks and Franklin did in his absence, it changes everything and I could see Franklin earning a bigger piece of the pie as the season rolls on.

FWIW he finished second in voting behind Ball for the Doak Walker award, and they had nearly identical measurables at the combine. The only standard differences were that Franklin is a bit smaller of a back weighing ~10lbs less and ran a faster 40 than Ball. I can't speak to intangibles like pass pro or hands, but Ball was suspected of being a liability in pass pro since he rarely, if ever, had to perform those duties at the college level.

:2cents:

 
Mikejay said:
RGIII HTTR said:
RushHour said:
McGahee is a pretty low upside 'meh' option imo. I wouldn't bother unless I was amazingly desperate at RB. Even then, I'd rather own guys like Ellington or Bolden.
I disagree, although I can understand the logic. I think a main RB that will get double digit carries proves to be more worthy than flash single digit back. I will concede that Willie is far from being a sexy pick up though.
Mcgahee has done very little fantasywise over his career except when he lined up next to Peyton Manning. Pass.
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LOL at Heath Miller being available indicating a guppy league.

These are not the 2011 Steelers. This Steelers team is a bottom-10 team in the NFL, they are a mess offensively. Even fully healthy, Miller wouldn't crack the top-12 TEs this year.
I think the point you want to make is there's a lot of decent TE's and he's coming off an injury.

The Steelers problems offensively don't effect the fantasy production of a TE nearly as much as they would a downfield WR unless they plan on keeping him in to block a lot.

 
Mikejay said:
RGIII HTTR said:
RushHour said:
McGahee is a pretty low upside 'meh' option imo. I wouldn't bother unless I was amazingly desperate at RB. Even then, I'd rather own guys like Ellington or Bolden.
I disagree, although I can understand the logic. I think a main RB that will get double digit carries proves to be more worthy than flash single digit back. I will concede that Willie is far from being a sexy pick up though.
Mcgahee has done very little fantasywise over his career except when he lined up next to Peyton Manning. Pass.
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I seem to remember him having some decent years in Baltimore...When did Peyton play for them? Maybe you're getting your Colts mixed up.

 
Mikejay said:
RGIII HTTR said:
RushHour said:
McGahee is a pretty low upside 'meh' option imo. I wouldn't bother unless I was amazingly desperate at RB. Even then, I'd rather own guys like Ellington or Bolden.
I disagree, although I can understand the logic. I think a main RB that will get double digit carries proves to be more worthy than flash single digit back. I will concede that Willie is far from being a sexy pick up though.
Mcgahee has done very little fantasywise over his career except when he lined up next to Peyton Manning. Pass.
X
I seem to remember him having some decent years in Baltimore...When did Peyton play for them? Maybe you're getting your Colts mixed up.
pretty sure last year McGahee was in Denver lining up next to Peyton and he looked good

 
Mikejay said:
RGIII HTTR said:
RushHour said:
McGahee is a pretty low upside 'meh' option imo. I wouldn't bother unless I was amazingly desperate at RB. Even then, I'd rather own guys like Ellington or Bolden.
I disagree, although I can understand the logic. I think a main RB that will get double digit carries proves to be more worthy than flash single digit back. I will concede that Willie is far from being a sexy pick up though.
Mcgahee has done very little fantasywise over his career except when he lined up next to Peyton Manning. Pass.
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I seem to remember him having some decent years in Baltimore...When did Peyton play for them? Maybe you're getting your Colts mixed up.
pretty sure last year McGahee was in Denver lining up next to Peyton and he looked good
I don't think that's inconsistent with the posters taking issue with the statement that McGahee has done little except when next to Peyton.

 
donkshow said:
I'm dropping Givens for Vereen on my RB injury-riddled team (Rice, Bush, Vereen). It's a move I'm essentially forced to make.
Vereen can't play until week 11, are you really trying to say that you are dropping him for Givens?

 
It's a Yahoo league, I've got Vereen on IR.

edit: Woops I meant I dropped Givens for BOLDEN.

 
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Snagged Ahmad Bradshaw off waivers. How excited should I be on a scale of 1-10 given the T-Rich presence?

 
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Ahmad Bradshaw got dropped last week in one of my leagues. Would he be a decent flex in the near future?
Given the lack of quality RB production and that most backfields are now a RBBC, I'd say the Bradshaw could be used as an RB2. I've seen people use far worse.
 
I want to scoop up Bolden, but not sure who to drop.

My bench: MWilliams, Givens, RWhite, Ball, Hunter (Gore owner), PThomas, Fleener
Ball. 2 fumbles, 3 (4?) RBs on the Denver roster and they are a passing team. I own both Ball and Bolden fwiw.
I have a tougher decision ... Drop McGhee for Bolden
I'll be dropping PThomas or Bryce Brown for the claim. Wavering.
PT is proven and Ingram is about to lose more and more carries. I can see why you would be wavering.

 

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