well I did it ..Took Bush with the 2:1 (1 Viewer)

[Longshot88]

I hate to say it but I don't really like the look of this team & 2.1 for Bush is WAY to early. I'm not sold on your rb's, like your top 2 wr's a lot, other's are ok, qb's are kind of weak, good te's, k's, & dt's.

the Fact of the matter is you have to do something IMO there are not 2rb left who i would have rather had at 12 and 13..than McGahee and Bush....if you can come up with 2 i would like to hear them....McGahee will get his touches and I expect a bit more from him in the td deptment this year...and bush will be on the field alot with the chance to take it to the house every time he touches the ball.... ideal situation ..No, but but a solid chance...the key is finding value thru out the rest of the draft...which i belive i did....as for the qbs I personaly like the plummer and bledsoe combo...and with the roster restriction,there are several I could pick up if need be..Brunell and Leftwitch are free agents

 

[jurb26]

I hate to say it but I don't really like the look of this team & 2.1 for Bush is WAY to early. I'm not sold on your rb's, like your top 2 wr's a lot, other's are ok, qb's are kind of weak, good te's, k's, & dt's.

the Fact of the matter is you have to do something IMO there are not 2rb left who i would have rather had at 12 and 13..than McGahee and Bush....if you can come up with 2 i would like to hear them....McGahee will get his touches and I expect a bit more from him in the td deptment this year...and bush will be on the field alot with the chance to take it to the house every time he touches the ball.... ideal situation ..No, but but a solid chance...the key is finding value thru out the rest of the draft...which i belive i did....as for the qbs I personaly like the plummer and bledsoe combo...and with the roster restriction,there are several I could pick up if need be..Brunell and Leftwitch are free agents

Yeah, gonna have to agree. Willis at pick 12 is a rather safe one IMO. The guy finished as RB12 last year and it's hard to imagin thingsgetting worse for him and that Buf O this year. Bush is a wild card, but given his talent and the amount of touches I expect him to get I really can't fathom a finish outside the top 20. His potential is in the range of a RB1 though. I think this is a great mix of high and low risk. I would have personally gone after another, more stable RB after Bush however in the later rounds. A guy like Droughns or Dunn would be ideal if you ask me.

 

[matuski]

I would rather look at the consensus of 100 people's rankings then 1 person's. The crowd is scarily accurate.

disagree entirely The "consensus" first and second round players year in and year out rarely resemble the actual.Did the crowd call steve smith? larry johnson (split throughout preseason)? LaMont Jordan? Tiki? Santana Moss? Etc... SO many guys with ADPs SO far off each year.

 

[Bristol]

Took Bush at 2.6 in my local 10-man league. I knew he wouldn't get back to me at 3.5 so I went for it. Amazingly enough, the rest of my league must have bought into the Bush hype because I was able to steel Deuce McAllister in the 8th round!

I took Bush at 2.03. Someone took Deuce at 6.09 as the RB38. I actually passed on Deuce at 5.10 in favor of Barber, though I strongly considered taking him.I think spending such a high pick on Bush was an all or nothing gamble on my part anyway, so handcuffing Jones with Barber at the 5.10 made more sense to me than handcuffing Decue to Bush - since i took him that high, I am obviously predicting that Deuce will not do much this year - and will hold less value than Barber subbing for Jones if Jones is hurt yet again (and I feel Jones/Barber play in a much more RB friendly system).

Please share your roster so we can see how the rest of your draft went. I am curious to see if it resembles the original posters draft.

10-man, 22-round draft. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, 1 K, 1 DT/ST, and 1 wild card (any position player). Note: The wild card changes a lot of the draft strategy, particularly since all TDs are 6 points.1.5 - Edgerrin James (had I paid attention to Chris Perry's injury, I would have taken Rudi. I won't make that mistake in my next live draft next weekend)2.6 - Reggie Bush3.5 - Steve Smith4.6 - Jake Delhomme (just missed out on Culpepper 2 picks earlier!)5.5 - Kevin Jones6.6 - Brett Favre7.5 - Derrick Mason8.6 - Deuce McAllister9.5 - Chris Brown10.6 - Lee Evans11.5 - Billy Volek12.6 - Seattle D13.5 - Matt Jones14.6 - Troy Williamson15.5 - Greg Jones16.6 - Josh Brown17.5 - Brian Griese18.6 - Heath Miller19.5 - Mark Clayton20.6 - Ryan Moats21.5 - Matt Stover22.6 - Green Bay D

This cannot not even be considered since it's obvious that it is not a serious draft. No way S. Smith falls to 3.5 and no way K. Jones falls to the 5th. Was this a work league or something? Don't get me wrong, your team is pretty much stacked, but this can't be against serious competition.

 

[Longshot88]

I hate to say it but I don't really like the look of this team & 2.1 for Bush is WAY to early. I'm not sold on your rb's, like your top 2 wr's a lot, other's are ok, qb's are kind of weak, good te's, k's, & dt's.

the Fact of the matter is you have to do something IMO there are not 2rb left who i would have rather had at 12 and 13..than McGahee and Bush....if you can come up with 2 i would like to hear them....McGahee will get his touches and I expect a bit more from him in the td deptment this year...and bush will be on the field alot with the chance to take it to the house every time he touches the ball.... ideal situation ..No, but but a solid chance...the key is finding value thru out the rest of the draft...which i belive i did....as for the qbs I personaly like the plummer and bledsoe combo...and with the roster restriction,there are several I could pick up if need be..Brunell and Leftwitch are free agents

Yeah, gonna have to agree. Willis at pick 12 is a rather safe one IMO. The guy finished as RB12 last year and it's hard to imagin thingsgetting worse for him and that Buf O this year. Bush is a wild card, but given his talent and the amount of touches I expect him to get I really can't fathom a finish outside the top 20. His potential is in the range of a RB1 though. I think this is a great mix of high and low risk. I would have personally gone after another, more stable RB after Bush however in the later rounds. A guy like Droughns or Dunn would be ideal if you ask me.

yeah that would have been ideal...but I would have had to take lesser wrs..and in a start 3 wr league i wasnt prepared to do that.

 

[GiantsRule]

Took Bush at 2.6 in my local 10-man league. I knew he wouldn't get back to me at 3.5 so I went for it. Amazingly enough, the rest of my league must have bought into the Bush hype because I was able to steel Deuce McAllister in the 8th round!

I took Bush at 2.03. Someone took Deuce at 6.09 as the RB38. I actually passed on Deuce at 5.10 in favor of Barber, though I strongly considered taking him.I think spending such a high pick on Bush was an all or nothing gamble on my part anyway, so handcuffing Jones with Barber at the 5.10 made more sense to me than handcuffing Decue to Bush - since i took him that high, I am obviously predicting that Deuce will not do much this year - and will hold less value than Barber subbing for Jones if Jones is hurt yet again (and I feel Jones/Barber play in a much more RB friendly system).

Please share your roster so we can see how the rest of your draft went. I am curious to see if it resembles the original posters draft.

10-man, 22-round draft. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, 1 K, 1 DT/ST, and 1 wild card (any position player). Note: The wild card changes a lot of the draft strategy, particularly since all TDs are 6 points.1.5 - Edgerrin James (had I paid attention to Chris Perry's injury, I would have taken Rudi. I won't make that mistake in my next live draft next weekend)2.6 - Reggie Bush3.5 - Steve Smith4.6 - Jake Delhomme (just missed out on Culpepper 2 picks earlier!)5.5 - Kevin Jones6.6 - Brett Favre7.5 - Derrick Mason8.6 - Deuce McAllister9.5 - Chris Brown10.6 - Lee Evans11.5 - Billy Volek12.6 - Seattle D13.5 - Matt Jones14.6 - Troy Williamson15.5 - Greg Jones16.6 - Josh Brown17.5 - Brian Griese18.6 - Heath Miller19.5 - Mark Clayton20.6 - Ryan Moats21.5 - Matt Stover22.6 - Green Bay D

This cannot not even be considered since it's obvious that it is not a serious draft. No way S. Smith falls to 3.5 and no way K. Jones falls to the 5th. Was this a work league or something? Don't get me wrong, your team is pretty much stacked, but this can't be against serious competition.

First of all, there's no need to insult my league. If you bothered to read the intro to my team makeup, I prefaced the post by saying that my league is favorable towards quarterbacks. This is why of my four leagues, my local is my most favorite. I'd much rather have a league where the strategy is to find solid QBs early than your standard league where QBs are treated as throwaways (like kickers and defenses) and you can fill your team with them in the 10th round and later.That being said:1. Of the first two rounds (20 picks), 16 running backs were taken along with four QBs (Manning, Brady, McNabb, and Hasselbeck). The first WR didn't leave the board until 3.2 when Torry Holt was grabbed. So Steve Smith hardly slipped. Our league just has a greater value for RBs and QBs in the early rounds.2. I do appreciate you thinking my team is stacked (as a veteran of Fantasy and this league, I think my team is painfully mediocre) but my team doesn't even rank as one of the league's best. Another owner got LT, McGahee, Holt, Moss, and Ward in the first five rounds. I'd take that over virtually my entire team. There are at least 2-3 other teams that are way better than mine. It's a competitive league for big money that we all take seriously.3. Jones was a top RB prospect in 2005, not 2006. Many fantasy owners are down on him after his abysmal performance last year and don't have faith in him going to an offense with a pass-happy coordinator. Seeing how valuable Bryson is on passing downs and watching Detroit take Brian Calhoun is not exactly a vote of confidence either. I'm not a fan of KJ, but in the 5th round as my #3 back, it was a decent value pick.Don't assume something about another's league just because a few players you're high on went late. I think it's pathetic that most leagues out there allow you to get Brett Favre or Drew Brees in the 10th round. Everybody's league will differ based by starting lineup makeup and scoring system.

 

[Bristol]

Took Bush at 2.6 in my local 10-man league. I knew he wouldn't get back to me at 3.5 so I went for it. Amazingly enough, the rest of my league must have bought into the Bush hype because I was able to steel Deuce McAllister in the 8th round!

I took Bush at 2.03. Someone took Deuce at 6.09 as the RB38. I actually passed on Deuce at 5.10 in favor of Barber, though I strongly considered taking him.I think spending such a high pick on Bush was an all or nothing gamble on my part anyway, so handcuffing Jones with Barber at the 5.10 made more sense to me than handcuffing Decue to Bush - since i took him that high, I am obviously predicting that Deuce will not do much this year - and will hold less value than Barber subbing for Jones if Jones is hurt yet again (and I feel Jones/Barber play in a much more RB friendly system).

Please share your roster so we can see how the rest of your draft went. I am curious to see if it resembles the original posters draft.

10-man, 22-round draft. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, 1 K, 1 DT/ST, and 1 wild card (any position player). Note: The wild card changes a lot of the draft strategy, particularly since all TDs are 6 points.1.5 - Edgerrin James (had I paid attention to Chris Perry's injury, I would have taken Rudi. I won't make that mistake in my next live draft next weekend)2.6 - Reggie Bush3.5 - Steve Smith4.6 - Jake Delhomme (just missed out on Culpepper 2 picks earlier!)5.5 - Kevin Jones6.6 - Brett Favre7.5 - Derrick Mason8.6 - Deuce McAllister9.5 - Chris Brown10.6 - Lee Evans11.5 - Billy Volek12.6 - Seattle D13.5 - Matt Jones14.6 - Troy Williamson15.5 - Greg Jones16.6 - Josh Brown17.5 - Brian Griese18.6 - Heath Miller19.5 - Mark Clayton20.6 - Ryan Moats21.5 - Matt Stover22.6 - Green Bay D

This cannot not even be considered since it's obvious that it is not a serious draft. No way S. Smith falls to 3.5 and no way K. Jones falls to the 5th. Was this a work league or something? Don't get me wrong, your team is pretty much stacked, but this can't be against serious competition.

First of all, there's no need to insult my league. If you bothered to read the intro to my team makeup, I prefaced the post by saying that my league is favorable towards quarterbacks. This is why of my four leagues, my local is my most favorite. I'd much rather have a league where the strategy is to find solid QBs early than your standard league where QBs are treated as throwaways (like kickers and defenses) and you can fill your team with them in the 10th round and later.That being said:1. Of the first two rounds (20 picks), 16 running backs were taken along with four QBs (Manning, Brady, McNabb, and Hasselbeck). The first WR didn't leave the board until 3.2 when Torry Holt was grabbed. So Steve Smith hardly slipped. Our league just has a greater value for RBs and QBs in the early rounds.2. I do appreciate you thinking my team is stacked (as a veteran of Fantasy and this league, I think my team is painfully mediocre) but my team doesn't even rank as one of the league's best. Another owner got LT, McGahee, Holt, Moss, and Ward in the first five rounds. I'd take that over virtually my entire team. There are at least 2-3 other teams that are way better than mine. It's a competitive league for big money that we all take seriously.3. Jones was a top RB prospect in 2005, not 2006. Many fantasy owners are down on him after his abysmal performance last year and don't have faith in him going to an offense with a pass-happy coordinator. Seeing how valuable Bryson is on passing downs and watching Detroit take Brian Calhoun is not exactly a vote of confidence either. I'm not a fan of KJ, but in the 5th round as my #3 back, it was a decent value pick.Don't assume something about another's league just because a few players you're high on went late. I think it's pathetic that most leagues out there allow you to get Brett Favre or Drew Brees in the 10th round. Everybody's league will differ based by starting lineup makeup and scoring system.

Agreed. What you are missing is that the drop off from the top tier QB's is always less than that of the better RB's. Even in this type of scoring where QB's are favored over RB's, the difference between QB4 and QB10 are minimal (based on points per week). In this format, I would still take 3 RB's in the first 4 picks and then take a WR with the other. You can ALWAYS find a QB in later rounds. ALWAYS! YOu can also always find sleeper WR's. The first time I went RB heavy in the first 4 rounds, I was a little concerned. After many fanyast championships, I never question it. It never matters what format, running backs are fantasy gold. People are always looking for them and you can always trade your depth to get a player that you need later in the season (i.e. QB, WR)

 

[GiantsRule]

Took Bush at 2.6 in my local 10-man league. I knew he wouldn't get back to me at 3.5 so I went for it. Amazingly enough, the rest of my league must have bought into the Bush hype because I was able to steel Deuce McAllister in the 8th round!

I took Bush at 2.03. Someone took Deuce at 6.09 as the RB38. I actually passed on Deuce at 5.10 in favor of Barber, though I strongly considered taking him.I think spending such a high pick on Bush was an all or nothing gamble on my part anyway, so handcuffing Jones with Barber at the 5.10 made more sense to me than handcuffing Decue to Bush - since i took him that high, I am obviously predicting that Deuce will not do much this year - and will hold less value than Barber subbing for Jones if Jones is hurt yet again (and I feel Jones/Barber play in a much more RB friendly system).

Please share your roster so we can see how the rest of your draft went. I am curious to see if it resembles the original posters draft.

10-man, 22-round draft. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, 1 K, 1 DT/ST, and 1 wild card (any position player). Note: The wild card changes a lot of the draft strategy, particularly since all TDs are 6 points.1.5 - Edgerrin James (had I paid attention to Chris Perry's injury, I would have taken Rudi. I won't make that mistake in my next live draft next weekend)2.6 - Reggie Bush3.5 - Steve Smith4.6 - Jake Delhomme (just missed out on Culpepper 2 picks earlier!)5.5 - Kevin Jones6.6 - Brett Favre7.5 - Derrick Mason8.6 - Deuce McAllister9.5 - Chris Brown10.6 - Lee Evans11.5 - Billy Volek12.6 - Seattle D13.5 - Matt Jones14.6 - Troy Williamson15.5 - Greg Jones16.6 - Josh Brown17.5 - Brian Griese18.6 - Heath Miller19.5 - Mark Clayton20.6 - Ryan Moats21.5 - Matt Stover22.6 - Green Bay D

This cannot not even be considered since it's obvious that it is not a serious draft. No way S. Smith falls to 3.5 and no way K. Jones falls to the 5th. Was this a work league or something? Don't get me wrong, your team is pretty much stacked, but this can't be against serious competition.

First of all, there's no need to insult my league. If you bothered to read the intro to my team makeup, I prefaced the post by saying that my league is favorable towards quarterbacks. This is why of my four leagues, my local is my most favorite. I'd much rather have a league where the strategy is to find solid QBs early than your standard league where QBs are treated as throwaways (like kickers and defenses) and you can fill your team with them in the 10th round and later.That being said:1. Of the first two rounds (20 picks), 16 running backs were taken along with four QBs (Manning, Brady, McNabb, and Hasselbeck). The first WR didn't leave the board until 3.2 when Torry Holt was grabbed. So Steve Smith hardly slipped. Our league just has a greater value for RBs and QBs in the early rounds.2. I do appreciate you thinking my team is stacked (as a veteran of Fantasy and this league, I think my team is painfully mediocre) but my team doesn't even rank as one of the league's best. Another owner got LT, McGahee, Holt, Moss, and Ward in the first five rounds. I'd take that over virtually my entire team. There are at least 2-3 other teams that are way better than mine. It's a competitive league for big money that we all take seriously.3. Jones was a top RB prospect in 2005, not 2006. Many fantasy owners are down on him after his abysmal performance last year and don't have faith in him going to an offense with a pass-happy coordinator. Seeing how valuable Bryson is on passing downs and watching Detroit take Brian Calhoun is not exactly a vote of confidence either. I'm not a fan of KJ, but in the 5th round as my #3 back, it was a decent value pick.Don't assume something about another's league just because a few players you're high on went late. I think it's pathetic that most leagues out there allow you to get Brett Favre or Drew Brees in the 10th round. Everybody's league will differ based by starting lineup makeup and scoring system.

Agreed. What you are missing is that the drop off from the top tier QB's is always less than that of the better RB's. Even in this type of scoring where QB's are favored over RB's, the difference between QB4 and QB10 are minimal (based on points per week). In this format, I would still take 3 RB's in the first 4 picks and then take a WR with the other. You can ALWAYS find a QB in later rounds. ALWAYS! YOu can also always find sleeper WR's. The first time I went RB heavy in the first 4 rounds, I was a little concerned. After many fanyast championships, I never question it. It never matters what format, running backs are fantasy gold. People are always looking for them and you can always trade your depth to get a player that you need later in the season (i.e. QB, WR)

I've also won multiple championships sticking with a formula: Load up on RBs and QBs and leave the WRs until the later rounds. You always can find suitable fill-ins at WR and I've proven it by winning titles with such luminaries at wideout as Eddie Kennison (the Saints version), Michael Westbrook (after his slide-off), Darnay Scott, and my personal favorite "stud receiver", James Thrash. It differs for every owner. This year, I didn't see much value after my top QB choices (Manning & Hasselbeck) so I took Steve Smith only because of the value at that point in the draft.And I haven't had a chance to look at the draft board after entering the results into my league site, but you most certainly couldn't find QBs in the later round in my local league. The fact I was able to get Volek in the 11th (one of the last QBs on the board) as my #3 was sheer luck. By the 9th round even Alex Smith was taken simply because QBs guaranteed to start the whole season have dwindled into practically nothing.

 

[H.K.]

6.03: Todd Heap

7.10: Issac Bruce

8.03: Wilford

9.10: Toomer

10.03: Culpepper

11.10: Trent Green

I think you got great value for the picks I bolded.

Just curious, how many WR's went before Toomer? His ADP is 56, which I think is far below where he'll perform...he was a legit WR3 last season and nobody is looking at him even though Eli should only be better this year.

 

[GiantsRule]

6.03: Todd Heap

7.10: Issac Bruce

8.03: Wilford

9.10: Toomer

10.03: Culpepper

11.10: Trent Green

I think you got great value for the picks I bolded.

Just curious, how many WR's went before Toomer? His ADP is 56, which I think is far below where he'll perform...he was a legit WR3 last season and nobody is looking at him even though Eli should only be better this year.

See, to me, draft results like this are ridiculous (not saying the owner is in a cheap league or anything, but this is the problem with leagues that so heavily discount quarterbacks.) I don't care if passing TDs are only worth 2 points. I don't care if owners feel QBs are just glorified kickers in fantasy football. Trent Green and Daunte Culpepper going in the double digit rounds is ridiculous. More so because there is no way, no system, no chance that guys like Bruce, Wilford, and Toomer are more valuable than those guys. None. And if this league isn't TE-required, it's even more insane.And I realize I'm saying this coming from a QB-heavy league. Well, I'm also in a 16-team, 5-player keeper league with stand performance scoring and 4 points for TD passes...and most of the top QBs are still kept over borderline receivers or backup RBs. And when the draft kicked off, guys like Drew Bledsoe, Aaron Brooks, Kurt Warner, and Steve McNair were snagged up almost immediately.

 

[Bristol]

6.03: Todd Heap

7.10: Issac Bruce

8.03: Wilford

9.10: Toomer

10.03: Culpepper

11.10: Trent Green

I think you got great value for the picks I bolded.

Just curious, how many WR's went before Toomer? His ADP is 56, which I think is far below where he'll perform...he was a legit WR3 last season and nobody is looking at him even though Eli should only be better this year.

See, to me, draft results like this are ridiculous (not saying the owner is in a cheap league or anything, but this is the problem with leagues that so heavily discount quarterbacks.) I don't care if passing TDs are only worth 2 points. I don't care if owners feel QBs are just glorified kickers in fantasy football. Trent Green and Daunte Culpepper going in the double digit rounds is ridiculous. More so because there is no way, no system, no chance that guys like Bruce, Wilford, and Toomer are more valuable than those guys. None. And if this league isn't TE-required, it's even more insane.And I realize I'm saying this coming from a QB-heavy league. Well, I'm also in a 16-team, 5-player keeper league with stand performance scoring and 4 points for TD passes...and most of the top QBs are still kept over borderline receivers or backup RBs. And when the draft kicked off, guys like Drew Bledsoe, Aaron Brooks, Kurt Warner, and Steve McNair were snagged up almost immediately.

No offense, but these leagues truly sound like they are filled with people who do not know what they are doing. This is not a knock against you because you almost have to do the same to make sure that you are not left behind. This is a perfect example of where a shark is swimming with guppies. Read the freelance article and you will see what I am talking about. No way, no how in any league, should there be a run on QB that early.

 

[RKMoney]

I would rather look at the consensus of 100 people's rankings then 1 person's. The crowd is scarily accurate.

Time will tell...

If I had listened to the "experts" in the past over how I felt, I would have done the following:1. Drafted Barlow in first/early second round

2. Drafted Kevin Jones early

3. Bypassed LJ earlier than normal in drafts

4. Bypassed drafting a WR with one of my first two draft picks because RB/RB was the ONLY way to win (wasn't long ago when most "experts" said this was THE way to win).

Funny you mention the first two because I bring them both up in my dodds bush #10 thread. I think it can be very good to be a contrarian. (Guy in my league who is a complete contrarian who has three championships in 10 years but has lots of last places) Howeve,r I am just making a simple point that like the stock market, more heads are better then one when making a guess on someone's or something's prospects. You want to get as close to perfect information as you can and generally one person can not do this.

Please explain what "perfect information" means to me.Again, I think someone should be commended if they take Bush high in their draft and not run with the flock like 99.9999% of the other fantasy managers out there. Unlike most, I see NO problem with someone taking Bush at that spot. If wrong, so what, you can say the same thing with many other players who will be drafted at that spot by many other managers in many leagues.

Finally, the point of a fantasy football site is to share and learn from one another but what ends up happening is if someone thinks outside the box they are ripped and laughed at. Ironic, isn't it?

I agree with you for the most part. I was very critical of Dodd's ranking of Bush but if all 15+ footballguys had him in the top five I would have been less so. Perfect information is simply a term describing knowing everything about a certain thing or situation. For example, you might like Bush, but someone will point out something like his playoff schedule sucks or the coach made some comment about his workload. ( I majored in economics so we like to use silly terms like this) The internet has made it easier for one person to get this agreed, but if 1000 people like bush and you don't like him you should maybe think twice. I remember getting mcgahee at #10 last year and thought I got a steal. Turns out my very experienced league members got it right. As someone pointed out it depends on the crowd, but my thesis is thousands of opinions are better then one expert even if it's you. (unless of course you have perfect information)

How is THAT possible? I'll answer it, it isn't.More than 1000 people liked Barlow as a top tier back not too long ago by all the "experienced experts" out there.

More than 1000 people though Tiki saw his best days, gave you a 1000 reasons why, where did he end up last year?

Carlson Palmer wasn't a top 5 or even broke top 10 status last year for a 1000 reasons given by a 1000 experts and he was a clear cut #1 QB.

1 person can definitely be correct while 1000 people wrong, happens every year in fantasy sports.

The point is to not draft Willis at #10 because people say they are experts when in reality they don't know anything more than you do (unless you don't watch football that is). Nobody is an "expert" when it comes to this sort of stuff. Economics? Sure,but fantasy sports? No way. Way too many variables and guesses and in many cases over analysis.

 

[RKMoney]

I would rather look at the consensus of 100 people's rankings then 1 person's. The crowd is scarily accurate.

disagree entirely The "consensus" first and second round players year in and year out rarely resemble the actual.

Did the crowd call steve smith? larry johnson (split throughout preseason)? LaMont Jordan? Tiki? Santana Moss? Etc... SO many guys with ADPs SO far off each year.

That's what I've been saying. If I had listen to others then I would not have been able to have drafted the above where I did in many of my leagues last season.

 

[GiantsRule]

6.03: Todd Heap

7.10: Issac Bruce

8.03: Wilford

9.10: Toomer

10.03: Culpepper

11.10: Trent Green

I think you got great value for the picks I bolded.

Just curious, how many WR's went before Toomer? His ADP is 56, which I think is far below where he'll perform...he was a legit WR3 last season and nobody is looking at him even though Eli should only be better this year.

See, to me, draft results like this are ridiculous (not saying the owner is in a cheap league or anything, but this is the problem with leagues that so heavily discount quarterbacks.) I don't care if passing TDs are only worth 2 points. I don't care if owners feel QBs are just glorified kickers in fantasy football. Trent Green and Daunte Culpepper going in the double digit rounds is ridiculous. More so because there is no way, no system, no chance that guys like Bruce, Wilford, and Toomer are more valuable than those guys. None. And if this league isn't TE-required, it's even more insane.And I realize I'm saying this coming from a QB-heavy league. Well, I'm also in a 16-team, 5-player keeper league with stand performance scoring and 4 points for TD passes...and most of the top QBs are still kept over borderline receivers or backup RBs. And when the draft kicked off, guys like Drew Bledsoe, Aaron Brooks, Kurt Warner, and Steve McNair were snagged up almost immediately.

No offense, but these leagues truly sound like they are filled with people who do not know what they are doing. This is not a knock against you because you almost have to do the same to make sure that you are not left behind. This is a perfect example of where a shark is swimming with guppies. Read the freelance article and you will see what I am talking about. No way, no how in any league, should there be a run on QB that early.

6 points for all TDs. Start a 2nd QB in the flex. Absolutely quality QBs should go early in a format like this. The league is set up so there's actually more attention paid to an important position rather than standard leagues where the passer is a "throw away position". Apparently, it's "to each his own". Personally, I don't see how anyone can justify letting QBs slip yet supporting taking mediocre-to-non-factor wideouts like Toomer, Wilford, or Bruce several rounds earlier than they should go.

 

[Bristol]

6.03: Todd Heap

7.10: Issac Bruce

8.03: Wilford

9.10: Toomer

10.03: Culpepper

11.10: Trent Green

I think you got great value for the picks I bolded.

Just curious, how many WR's went before Toomer? His ADP is 56, which I think is far below where he'll perform...he was a legit WR3 last season and nobody is looking at him even though Eli should only be better this year.

See, to me, draft results like this are ridiculous (not saying the owner is in a cheap league or anything, but this is the problem with leagues that so heavily discount quarterbacks.) I don't care if passing TDs are only worth 2 points. I don't care if owners feel QBs are just glorified kickers in fantasy football. Trent Green and Daunte Culpepper going in the double digit rounds is ridiculous. More so because there is no way, no system, no chance that guys like Bruce, Wilford, and Toomer are more valuable than those guys. None. And if this league isn't TE-required, it's even more insane.And I realize I'm saying this coming from a QB-heavy league. Well, I'm also in a 16-team, 5-player keeper league with stand performance scoring and 4 points for TD passes...and most of the top QBs are still kept over borderline receivers or backup RBs. And when the draft kicked off, guys like Drew Bledsoe, Aaron Brooks, Kurt Warner, and Steve McNair were snagged up almost immediately.

No offense, but these leagues truly sound like they are filled with people who do not know what they are doing. This is not a knock against you because you almost have to do the same to make sure that you are not left behind. This is a perfect example of where a shark is swimming with guppies. Read the freelance article and you will see what I am talking about. No way, no how in any league, should there be a run on QB that early.

6 points for all TDs. Start a 2nd QB in the flex. Absolutely quality QBs should go early in a format like this. The league is set up so there's actually more attention paid to an important position rather than standard leagues where the passer is a "throw away position". Apparently, it's "to each his own". Personally, I don't see how anyone can justify letting QBs slip yet supporting taking mediocre-to-non-factor wideouts like Toomer, Wilford, or Bruce several rounds earlier than they should go.

Ahhh, now that clears things up. I didn't realize that QB could start at Flex. Most leagues don't allow that. I clearly see why the run on QB's now. My apologies.

 

[Maelstrom]

I run a work league 12 teams, required starting lineup is 1Q/1R/3W/1T/1K/1D with 2 flex spots that allow R/W/T at one and Q/R/W/T at the other. QBs tend to go early also, but we use TeamQB (it is a work league and we make it as friendly as possible to allow different experiance levels to have fun) and allow max of 2TQBs per team. We also keep 2 from any position each year.

I took Bush early also (first round, 9th pick after the 2 keeper rounds). Of note is that the draft is a straight draft, no snaking.

Here's the draft (my team follows to see how I ended up after drafting Bush. I was happy to get McAllister to handcuff him just in case):

(First two rounds were keeper rounds, teams either kept 2 or drafted at their spot of the non-kept players)

Round	Pick	Overall	Team	Player	Team	Pos1	1	1	SMOKING GUNS	Philadelphia Eagles	PHI	TQB1	2	2	Can't Touch This	Chad Johnson	CIN	WR1	3	3	Da Mob	Tiki Barber	NYG	RB1	4	4	Krusty Undies	Randy Moss	OAK	WR1	5	5	Winner's Inc.	Antonio Gates	SD	TE1	6	6	Pep's Players	Shaun Alexander	SEA	RB1	7	7	Delts	Rudi Johnson	CIN	RB1	8	8	THE CHAMP	New England Patriots	NE	TQB1	9	9	Maverick Knights	LaDainian Tomlinson	SD	RB1	10	10	Mack T squad	Edgerrin James	ARI	RB1	11	11	Twisted Thugs	Indianapolis Colts	IND	TQB1	12	12	TD Hoggs	Clinton Portis	WAS	RB2	1	13	SMOKING GUNS	Ronnie Brown	MIA	RB2	2	14	Can't Touch This	Brian Westbrook	PHI	RB2	3	15	Da Mob	Reuben Droughns	CLE	RB2	4	16	Krusty Undies	Steve Smith	CAR	WR2	5	17	Winner's Inc.	Steven Jackson	STL	RB2	6	18	Pep's Players	Willis McGahee	BUF	RB2	7	19	Delts	Seattle Seahawks	SEA	TQB2	8	20	THE CHAMP	Anquan Boldin	ARI	WR2	9	21	Maverick Knights	Marvin Harrison	IND	WR2	10	22	Mack T squad	LaMont Jordan	OAK	RB2	11	23	Twisted Thugs	Larry Johnson	KC	RB2	12	24	TD Hoggs	Torry Holt	STL	WR3	1	25	Krusty Undies	Larry Fitzgerald	ARI	WR3	2	26	Da Mob	Corey Dillon	NE	RB3	3	27	Can't Touch This	Carnell Williams	TB	RB3	4	28	SMOKING GUNS	Donald Driver	GB	WR3	5	29	Winner's Inc.	Terrell Owens	DAL	WR3	6	30	Pep's Players	New York Giants	NYG	TQB3	7	31	Delts	Hines Ward	PIT	WR3	8	32	THE CHAMP	Chris Chambers	MIA	WR3	9	33	Maverick Knights	Reggie Bush	NO	RB3	10	34	Mack T squad	Cincinnati Bengals	CIN	TQB3	11	35	Twisted Thugs	Reggie Wayne	IND	WR3	12	36	TD Hoggs	Chester Taylor	MIN	RB4	1	37	SMOKING GUNS	Roy E. Williams	DET	WR4	2	38	Can't Touch This	Plaxico Burress	NYG	WR4	3	39	Da Mob	Javon Walker	DEN	WR4	4	40	Krusty Undies	Julius Jones	DAL	RB4	5	41	Winner's Inc.	Willie Parker	PIT	RB4	6	42	SMOKING GUNS	Darrell Jackson	SEA	WR4	7	43	Delts	Jeremy Shockey	NYG	TE4	8	44	THE CHAMP	Dallas Cowboys	DAL	TQB4	9	45	Maverick Knights	Carolina Panthers	CAR	TQB4	10	46	Mack T squad	Tony Gonzalez	KC	TE4	11	47	Twisted Thugs	DeShaun Foster	CAR	RB4	12	48	TD Hoggs	Kansas City Chiefs	KC	TQB5	1	49	SMOKING GUNS	Derrick Mason	BAL	WR5	2	50	Can't Touch This	Alge Crumpler	ATL	TE5	3	51	Da Mob	Antonio Bryant	SF	WR5	4	52	Krusty Undies	Todd Heap	BAL	TE5	5	53	Winner's Inc.	Denver Broncos	DEN	TQB5	6	54	SMOKING GUNS	Kellen Winslow	CLE	TE5	7	55	Delts	Warrick Dunn	ATL	RB5	8	56	THE CHAMP	Jamal Lewis	BAL	RB5	9	57	Maverick Knights	Jason Witten	DAL	TE5	10	58	Mack T squad	Atlanta Falcons	ATL	TQB5	11	59	Twisted Thugs	Chris Cooley	WAS	TE5	12	60	TD Hoggs	Santana Moss	WAS	WR6	1	61	SMOKING GUNS	Frank Gore	SF	RB6	2	62	Can't Touch This	Laveranues Coles	NYJ	WR6	3	63	Da Mob	Miami Dolphins	MIA	TQB6	4	64	Krusty Undies	Joseph Addai	IND	RB6	5	65	Winner's Inc.	Tatum Bell	DEN	RB6	6	66	Pep's Players	Joey Galloway	TB	WR6	7	67	Delts	Chicago Bears	CHI	D6	8	68	THE CHAMP	Randy McMichael	MIA	TE6	9	69	Maverick Knights	Kevin Jones	DET	RB6	10	70	Mack T squad	T.J. Houshmandzadeh	CIN	WR6	11	71	Twisted Thugs	Rod Smith	DEN	WR6	12	72	TD Hoggs	Pittsburgh Steelers	PIT	TQB7	1	73	Pep's Players	St. Louis Rams	STL	TQB7	2	74	Can't Touch This	Jacksonville Jaguars	JAC	TQB7	3	75	Da Mob	Baltimore Ravens	BAL	TQB7	4	76	Krusty Undies	Domanick Davis	HOU	RB7	5	77	Winner's Inc.	Vernon Davis	SF	TE7	6	78	Pep's Players	L.J. Smith	PHI	TE7	7	79	Delts	Detroit Lions	DET	TQB7	8	80	THE CHAMP	Arizona Cardinals	ARI	TQB7	9	81	Maverick Knights	Andre Johnson	HOU	WR7	10	82	Mack T squad	Eddie Kennison	KC	WR7	11	83	Twisted Thugs	Fred Taylor	JAC	RB7	12	84	TD Hoggs	Heath Miller	PIT	TE8	1	85	SMOKING GUNS	Green Bay Packers	GB	TQB8	2	86	Can't Touch This	Ahman Green	GB	RB8	3	87	Da Mob	Bubba Franks	GB	TE8	4	88	Krusty Undies	Carolina Panthers	CAR	D8	5	89	Winner's Inc.	Antwaan Randle El	WAS	WR8	6	90	Pep's Players	Lee Evans	BUF	WR8	7	91	Delts	Joe Horn	NO	WR8	8	92	THE CHAMP	Matt Jones	JAC	WR8	9	93	Maverick Knights	Deuce McAllister	NO	RB8	10	94	Mack T squad	Deion Branch	NE	WR8	11	95	Twisted Thugs	Pittsburgh Steelers	PIT	D8	12	96	TD Hoggs	Cedric Benson	CHI	RB9	1	97	SMOKING GUNS	Baltimore Ravens	BAL	D9	2	98	Can't Touch This	New York Giants	NYG	D9	3	99	Da Mob	Keenan McCardell	SD	WR9	4	100	Krusty Undies	Terry Glenn	DAL	WR9	5	101	Winner's Inc.	Amani Toomer	NYG	WR9	6	102	Pep's Players	David Givens	TEN	WR9	7	103	Delts	Koren Robinson	MIN	WR9	8	104	THE CHAMP	Reggie Brown	PHI	WR9	9	105	Maverick Knights	Braylon Edwards	CLE	WR9	10	106	Mack T squad	Donte Stallworth	NO	WR9	11	107	Twisted Thugs	Keyshawn Johnson	CAR	WR9	12	108	TD Hoggs	Muhsin Muhammad	CHI	WR10	1	109	SMOKING GUNS	Dallas Clark	IND	TE10	2	110	Can't Touch This	Brandon Stokley	IND	WR10	3	111	Da Mob	Drew Bennett	TEN	WR10	4	112	Krusty Undies	Neil Rackers	ARI	PK10	5	113	Winner's Inc.	Corey Bradford	DET	WR10	6	114	Pep's Players	LenDale White	TEN	RB10	7	115	Delts	Jason Elam	DEN	PK10	8	116	THE CHAMP	Thomas Jones	CHI	RB10	9	117	Maverick Knights	Oakland Raiders	OAK	TQB10	10	118	Mack T squad	Adam Vinatieri	IND	PK10	11	119	Twisted Thugs	Ben Watson	NE	TE10	12	120	TD Hoggs	Nate Burleson	SEA	WR11	1	121	SMOKING GUNS	Shayne Graham	CIN	PK11	2	122	Can't Touch This	Matt Stover	BAL	PK11	3	123	Da Mob	Jeff Reed	PIT	PK11	4	124	Krusty Undies	Dominic Rhodes	IND	RB11	5	125	Winner's Inc.	Cincinnati Bengals	CIN	D11	6	126	Pep's Players	Jacksonville Jaguars	JAC	D11	7	127	Delts	Cedric Houston	NYJ	RB11	8	128	THE CHAMP	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	TB	D11	9	129	Maverick Knights	Michael Clayton	TB	WR11	10	130	Mack T squad	Indianapolis Colts	IND	D11	11	131	Twisted Thugs	Jay Feely	NYG	PK11	12	132	TD Hoggs	Seattle Seahawks	SEA	D12	1	133	SMOKING GUNS	Chris Perry	CIN	RB12	2	134	Can't Touch This	Marcus Pollard	DET	TE12	3	135	Da Mob	Isaac Bruce	STL	WR12	4	136	Krusty Undies	Tennessee Titans	TEN	TQB12	5	137	Winner's Inc.	Jason Hanson	DET	PK12	6	138	Pep's Players	Jeff Wilkins	STL	PK12	7	139	Delts	Roddy White	ATL	WR12	8	140	THE CHAMP	Mike Vanderjagt	DAL	PK12	9	141	Maverick Knights	Troy Williamson	MIN	WR12	10	142	Mack T squad	Duce Staley	PIT	RB12	11	143	Twisted Thugs	Jerry Porter	OAK	WR12	12	144	TD Hoggs	Josh Brown	SEA	PK13	1	145	SMOKING GUNS	Brandon Lloyd	WAS	WR13	2	146	Can't Touch This	San Diego Chargers	SD	TQB13	3	147	Da Mob	Washington Redskins	WAS	D13	4	148	Krusty Undies	Minnesota Vikings	MIN	TQB13	5	149	Winner's Inc.	Kansas City Chiefs	KC	D13	6	150	Pep's Players	Samie Parker	KC	WR13	7	151	Delts	Justin McCareins	NYJ	WR13	8	152	THE CHAMP	Mike Anderson	BAL	RB13	9	153	Maverick Knights	Lawrence Tynes	KC	PK13	10	154	Mack T squad	Peerless Price	BUF	WR13	11	155	Twisted Thugs	Reggie Williams	JAC	WR13	12	156	TD Hoggs	T.J. Duckett	ATL	RB14	1	157	SMOKING GUNS	Chris Brown	TEN	RB14	2	158	Can't Touch This	Atlanta Falcons	ATL	D14	3	159	Da Mob	Eric Johnson	SF	TE14	4	160	Krusty Undies	Santonio Holmes	PIT	WR14	5	161	Winner's Inc.	Mike Bell	DEN	RB14	6	162	Pep's Players	Ben Troupe	TEN	TE14	7	163	Delts	Arizona Cardinals	ARI	D14	8	164	THE CHAMP	Greg Jones	JAC	RB14	9	165	Maverick Knights	Miami Dolphins	MIA	D14	10	166	Mack T squad	Ron Dayne	DEN	RB14	11	167	Twisted Thugs	DeAngelo Williams	CAR	RB14	12	168	TD Hoggs	Minnesota Vikings	MIN	D15	1	169	SMOKING GUNS	Kevan Barlow	SF	RB15	2	170	Can't Touch This	Joe Jurevicius	CLE	WR15	3	171	Da Mob	Sam Gado	GB	RB15	4	172	Krusty Undies	Kevin Curtis	STL	WR15	5	173	Winner's Inc.	Michael Jenkins	ATL	WR15	6	174	Pep's Players	Chris Henry	CIN	WR15	7	175	Delts	Jeb Putzier	HOU	TE15	8	176	THE CHAMP	Laurence Maroney	NE	RB15	9	177	Maverick Knights	Jermaine Wiggins	MIN	TE15	10	178	Mack T squad	Daniel Graham	NE	TE15	11	179	Twisted Thugs	Washington Redskins	WAS	TQB15	12	180	TD Hoggs	Ernest Wilford	JAC	WR16	1	181	Pep's Players	Ryan Moats	PHI	RB16	2	182	Can't Touch This	Michael Pittman	TB	RB16	3	183	Da Mob	Denver Broncos	DEN	D16	4	184	Krusty Undies	Mark Clayton	BAL	WR16	5	185	Winner's Inc.	Ashley Lelie	DEN	WR16	6	186	Pep's Players	Eric Moulds	HOU	WR16	7	187	Delts	Michael Turner	SD	RB16	8	188	THE CHAMP	Detroit Lions	DET	D16	9	189	Maverick Knights	Jerramy Stevens	SEA	TE16	10	190	Mack T squad	Mike Williams	DET	WR16	11	191	Twisted Thugs	Buffalo Bills	BUF	D16	12	192	TD Hoggs	Desmond Clark	CHI	TE

My Team:

9	RB	Tomlinson, LaDainian	SD	321	WR	Harrison, Marvin	IND	633	RB	Bush, Reggie	NO	745	TQB	Panthers, Carolina	CAR	957	TE	Witten, Jason	DAL	969	RB	Jones, Kevin	DET	881	WR	Johnson, Andre	HOU	593	RB	McAllister, Deuce	NO	7105	WR	Edwards, Braylon	CLE	6117	TQB	Raiders, Oakland	OAK	3129	WR	Clayton, Michael	TB	4141	WR	Williamson, Troy	MIN	6153	PK	Tynes, Lawrence	KC	3165	D	Dolphins, Miami	MIA	8177	TE	Wiggins, Jermaine	MIN	6189	TE	Stevens, Jerramy	SEA	5

 

[Gopher State]

I think 2:1 is a bit of a reach. I can see later in the second, but not at the turn. Hope it works out for you.

very

 

[jurb26]

I think 2:1 is a bit of a reach. I can see later in the second, but not at the turn. Hope it works out for you.

very

How is that good posting? If you can see later in the 2nd round, then he does not get Bush if he does not take him at 2.01. I know everyone aways says to trade down. Doing so is a lot harder than it looks in many leauges though. You take the players you want and feel confident in so long as you are pretty sure they will not make it back to you in the next or later round. Thats what I say.

 

[brakeyawself]

My dynasty league drafts next week and I have the 11th pick out of 16. Ive been targetting Ronnie Brown or Caddy and hopeing they fall. But if they are gone, and Sjax or some other suprise isnt there, i think im drafting Bush. I dont expect him to be there when the 2nd round comes back my way. Im actually considering taking him over both Brown and CAddy honestly, cause Brown is still a question mark and I HATE having to worry about players with injury concerns like CAddy. If I take Bush in rd 1 at 11, im gonna hope Fitz is still there when things come back my way in round 2.... But i dont know whos more likely to be taken first, bush or fitz...Im so confused.

 

[caglassc]

Just finished a 12 team (keep 2) draft this afternoon - Bush went at 1.6. LT, LJ, SA, Ronnie Brown and Steven Jackson went before him. Another stunner was that James did not get drafted until pick 2.6 - I think his pre-season play may have had something to do with that.

 

[GiantsRule]

Another stunner was that James did not get drafted until pick 2.6 - I think his pre-season play may have had something to do with that.

Oh man! If that's the case, the Alexander and LJ owners are certainly screwed!

 

[Genester]

3.5 - Steve Smith

That's HIGHWAY ROBBERY!!!

 

[Bristol]

I think 2:1 is a bit of a reach. I can see later in the second, but not at the turn. Hope it works out for you.

very

How is that good posting? If you can see later in the 2nd round, then he does not get Bush if he does not take him at 2.01. I know everyone aways says to trade down. Doing so is a lot harder than it looks in many leauges though. You take the players you want and feel confident in so long as you are pretty sure they will not make it back to you in the next or later round. Thats what I say.

Because taking him at the turn will screw up the rest of your draft. I don't think Bush is a viable RB2. Later in the second, you could grab him and then back him up with another RB in the 3rd to play it safe. Whether you like him or not, the turn is WAY too early to grab for someone like that. When the draft gets back to you in the third, there will be slim pickings at RB and you will have everything in Bush's basket.Not a situation that I want to be in.

 

[Doug B]

Because taking him at the turn will screw up the rest of your draft. I don't think Bush is a viable RB2. Later in the second, you could grab him and then back him up with another RB in the 3rd to play it safe. Whether you like him or not, the turn is WAY too early to grab for someone like that. When the draft gets back to you in the third, there will be slim pickings at RB and you will have everything in Bush's basket.

Not a situation that I want to be in.

But if someone disagrees with you on the point I bolded above? That changes things considerably.As you have confidence in your rankings, so do other people. May the best teams win.

 

[Bristol]

Because taking him at the turn will screw up the rest of your draft. I don't think Bush is a viable RB2. Later in the second, you could grab him and then back him up with another RB in the 3rd to play it safe. Whether you like him or not, the turn is WAY too early to grab for someone like that. When the draft gets back to you in the third, there will be slim pickings at RB and you will have everything in Bush's basket.

Not a situation that I want to be in.

But if someone disagrees with you on the point I bolded above? That changes things considerably.As you have confidence in your rankings, so do other people. May the best teams win.

Mark my words: Reggie Bush will WRECK fantasy teams this year just based on where people are taking him. That's right, I said WRECK!

 

[RKMoney]

10 team redraft league last night, wanted to get Bush in the 2nd round (I picked third spot!) but he was drafted 16th overall! Now, I have to say that everyone but me was from the West Coast but still. Oh, and I got LJ at #3 with TO and Randy Moss in the late second and early third. 3 WR league with flex.

 

[Bristol]

10 team redraft league last night, wanted to get Bush in the 2nd round (I picked third spot!) but he was drafted 16th overall! Now, I have to say that everyone but me was from the West Coast but still. Oh, and I got LJ at #3 with TO and Randy Moss in the late second and early third. 3 WR league with flex.

Nice grabs! BTW, who is your RB2?

 

[RKMoney]

10 team redraft league last night, wanted to get Bush in the 2nd round (I picked third spot!) but he was drafted 16th overall! Now, I have to say that everyone but me was from the West Coast but still. Oh, and I got LJ at #3 with TO and Randy Moss in the late second and early third. 3 WR league with flex.

Nice grabs! BTW, who is your RB2?

Thanks!Remember, this is a small league (10 teams) but here were my other RB (thoughts?) and we get .5 pts per receptionunn (43 pick)D Foster (58 pick)T Jones (78 pick)Betts (98 pick)Morency (143)My other WR:Ro. SmithMcCardellToomerMy QB was Brady (1 pt per 50 yards but -2 per INT).

 

[Doug B]

Mark my words: Reggie Bush will WRECK fantasy teams this year just based on where people are taking him. That's right, I said WRECK!

:marksdownwords:

 

[BoulderBob]

Because taking him at the turn will screw up the rest of your draft. I don't think Bush is a viable RB2. Later in the second, you could grab him and then back him up with another RB in the 3rd to play it safe. Whether you like him or not, the turn is WAY too early to grab for someone like that. When the draft gets back to you in the third, there will be slim pickings at RB and you will have everything in Bush's basket.

Not a situation that I want to be in.

But if someone disagrees with you on the point I bolded above? That changes things considerably.As you have confidence in your rankings, so do other people. May the best teams win.

Mark my words: Reggie Bush will WRECK fantasy teams this year just based on where people are taking him. That's right, I said WRECK!

I snagged the Big Old Stone (Ronnie Brown) in the first round, and then took Bush. Although we can only start 2 RB's in this league, I was also able back up Bush with J. Lewis, M. Bell, F. Gore, and Maroney. Although I'm almost 100% confident Ronnie Brown will be a top 3 back this season, he is the guy that will ruin my team if he fails to produce.

 

[Reagan]

just completted my Live Draft ( Owners I work with) And I took Bush with the 2:1 pick there are roster limits or i would have had more RBs this is my team ... All or nothing team if i have ever seen oneStart 1 qb , 2 rbs,3wr, 1te, one def, one kicker...waited a little too long to take a def, but i can live with that4pt passing td..1pt 25yards passing..1pt 6pt tds..10yards rushing and rec... .5 pts per recPlummer (9:12)Bledsoe (13:12) McGahee (1:12)R Bush (2:1) C Benson (5:12) I know ..but i really like himL maroney ( 7:12)R Wayne (3:12)C Chambers (4:1)M jones (6:1)T Williamson (10:1)B Edwards (12:1)G Jennings (18:1)J Witten (8:1)K Winslow (11:12)J Reed ( 15:12)N keading (17:12)Miami Def (14:1)Atlanta Def (16:1)With roster limits it really changes the draft some who took all 4 rb early missed out on Value later....made some mistakes( should have taken a wr instead of witten could have taken Coles or A Bryant) Not the best team in my stable...but it could have been worse....i dont have the time or the want too.. to list all teams.. but i would say it is probably 4th or 5th bestIf anybody else has done this post your team and lets see what you got

I sacrificed a stud WR (in a PPR, start-3 no less!) by taking Bush at 2.03 - also went heavy at RB b/c, even though it is a start-3 WRs PPR league, it also includes a flex RB/WR/TE spot. Most weeks, I have three RBs to put out there with great upside:1.10: Edge2.03: Bush3.10: JJones4.03: Reggie Wayne (great value!)5.10: Marion Barber (you'd have had to see the way folks were drafting RBs they liked, but who were not the starters, to know why I took him this high - plus, after passing on WRs in favor of Bush and JJones, I had to GUARANTEE that my third RB spot would not be an injury away from being non-existent)6.03: Todd Heap7.10: Issac Bruce8.03: Wilford9.10: Toomer10.03: Culpepper11.10: Trent Green12.03: Doug Gabriel13.10: Jerry Porter (no, I do NOT worry about bye weeks or drafting too many players from one team during my draft - it is a LONG season, and many of these things shake out LONG before the players hit their bye weeks).14.03: Dolphins D15.10: Jermaine Wiggins16.03: David Akers17.10: Brian Calhoun18.03: Pats D (love having my Ds facing the Jets and Bills four times this year).19.10: Joey Harrington (insurance for C-Pepp - can drop him after week two if need be)20.03: Arlen Harris (in a PPR, I'm guessing one of Calhoun or Harris will have decent value)IMO, the roster looks better when I write it out positionally - maybe not th egreatest roster, but one of the deepest rosters - tons of doubling up (both Dallas backs, Oakland's WR 2 and 3 - or Oakland's WR2 and some OTHER team's WR2 if Porter is traded, both Detroit b/u RBs, both Miami QBs). Positionally:QB: Culpepper, Green, HarringtonRB: Edge, Bush, JJones, MBarber, Calhoun, HarrisWR: Wayne, Bruce, Wilford, Toomer, Gabriel, PorterTE: Heap, WigginsK: AkersD: Miami, NE

Calhoun in 17th rd could be a steal....assuming what I read about him is accurate and with KJ's history.

 

[cr8f]

just completted my Live Draft ( Owners I work with)

And I took Bush with the 2:1 pick there are roster limits or i would have had more RBs

this is my team ... All or nothing team if i have ever seen one

1.10: Edge

2.03: Bush

3.10: JJones

4.03: Reggie Wayne (great value!)

6.03: Todd Heap

Wayne in the 4th. Heap in the 6th? Not around here. These people are smarter than that.