Westbrook and Dom Davis (1 Viewer)

[Preachrboy04]

Seems that every ranking and mock draft so far has these two guys about the same - within one or two slots of each other.

They seem like very similar backs - good in PPR, but not likely to get as many carries as elite RBs. Both have durability concerns. Both teams seem to be in some sort of transition, yet have expressed confidence in their guy.

So what's the difference? Anything to consider when evaluating Dom vs. Westy, or are they, essentially, the same player?

Thanks

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Things to consider:

QB - Carr vs. Dono.

Coach/OC - Reid has had his system in place. There is a whole new regime and philosophy in Houston. Is Kub gonna go with a Denver style O.

WR's - Philly's WR are not a team strength, Houston has upgraded wr2 and TE this offseason. Might not need to dump off to the back as much.

Injury concerns are about equal.

Overall I like Westy more, better QB, more consistent coaching, a better D and Oline, no great WR in Philly.

 

[nygiants56]

Things to consider:

QB - Carr vs. Dono.

Coach/OC - Reid  has had his system in place.  There is a whole new regime and philosophy in Houston. Is Kub gonna go with a Denver style O.

WR's -  Philly's WR are not a team strength, Houston has upgraded wr2 and TE this offseason.  Might not need to dump off to the back as much. 

Injury concerns are about equal.

Overall I like Westy more, better QB, more consistent coaching, a better D and Oline, no great WR in Philly.

true, but the flip side is that Kubiak has had a RB rank in the top 10 in total yards from scrimmage in each of the past 10 seasons in Denver..If he could get `Jake the Fake` Plummer to play at a Pro Bowl level, maybe he can work some magic with Carr?! and, if he can get a no-name guy like Olandis Gary to become a top RB, I think he can work wonders with DD..the fact that they didn't take Bush speaks volumes of what they expect from DD in '06...one more thing about Kubiak: he doesn't pull guys at the line of scrimmage, so perhaps DD could get a boatload of TD's this season...

if he stays healthy, that is!



As for Westy, six games against the NFC East foes will be tough for the Eagles..

every team in that division got much stronger in the offseason. Six games vs. what could be 3 of the top 10 defenses in the NFL..

DD plays against the lowly Titans defense, Indy's overrated and undersized defense, and Jacksonville's misleading defense ( they weren't great against the run for much of the 2005 season)

so, six games vs. suspect defenses for DD, or, Westy in six games vs. 3 pontentiall dominating defenses...

I'll take DD for $200, Alex...

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Denver oline >>>>>> Houston oline

The two RB's are very close. My points above just put Westy infront of DD.

 

[Preachrboy04]

Things to consider:

QB - Carr vs. Dono.

Coach/OC - Reid has had his system in place. There is a whole new regime and philosophy in Houston. Is Kub gonna go with a Denver style O.

WR's - Philly's WR are not a team strength, Houston has upgraded wr2 and TE this offseason. Might not need to dump off to the back as much.

Injury concerns are about equal.

Overall I like Westy more, better QB, more consistent coaching, a better D and Oline, no great WR in Philly.

true, but the flip side is that Kubiak has had a RB rank in the top 10 in total yards from scrimmage in each of the past 10 seasons in Denver..If he could get `Jake the Fake` Plummer to play at a Pro Bowl level, maybe he can work some magic with Carr?! and, if he can get a no-name guy like Olandis Gary to become a top RB, I think he can work wonders with DD..the fact that they didn't take Bush speaks volumes of what they expect from DD in '06...one more thing about Kubiak: he doesn't pull guys at the line of scrimmage, so perhaps DD could get a boatload of TD's this season...

if he stays healthy, that is!



As for Westy, six games against the NFC East foes will be tough for the Eagles..

every team in that division got much stronger in the offseason. Six games vs. what could be 3 of the top 10 defenses in the NFL..

DD plays against the lowly Titans defense, Indy's overrated and undersized defense, and Jacksonville's misleading defense ( they weren't great against the run for much of the 2005 season)

so, six games vs. suspect defenses for DD, or, Westy in six games vs. 3 pontentiall dominating defenses...

I'll take DD for $200, Alex...

So is it fair to say that DD has more upside with the changes in HOU?

 

[TCFF]

Westbrook is by far a more explosive and dynamic player than DD and if I was an NFL coach I would be very happy having Westbrook over Davis. That being said, I think DD will be a bit more valuable in fantasy football (especially in leagues without PPR) because he should be more consistent scoring TDs. He will almost certainly have more carries than Westy and while he will likely have less receptions than Westbrook he should still be one of the top five-ten pass catching RBs. Houston has majorly upgraded their offense and while Philly's offense will also be considerably better than last year they have a tendency to really spread the ball around.

 

[FBGPoker]

Westbrook is by far a more explosive and dynamic player than DD and if I was an NFL coach I would be very happy having Westbrook over Davis. That being said, I think DD will be a bit more valuable in fantasy football (especially in leagues without PPR) because he should be more consistent scoring TDs. He will almost certainly have more carries than Westy and while he will likely have less receptions than Westbrook he should still be one of the top five-ten pass catching RBs. Houston has majorly upgraded their offense and while Philly's offense will also be considerably better than last year they have a tendency to really spread the ball around.

Talent wise Westbrook is lightyears ahead of DD. DD is not a playmaker and doesn't make any big plays, Westbrook is the definition of playmaker.

From an NFL standpoint i don't think you could find a coach who would want DD over Westbrook, but due to Houston's offensive philosophy (not sure if that will change with the new staff), DD might be a better FF option.

I'd still take Westbrook since he's a far better talent.

 

[kylechoffman]

Things to consider:

QB - Carr vs. Dono.

Coach/OC - Reid  has had his system in place.  There is a whole new regime and philosophy in Houston. Is Kub gonna go with a Denver style O.

WR's -  Philly's WR are not a team strength, Houston has upgraded wr2 and TE this offseason.  Might not need to dump off to the back as much. 

Injury concerns are about equal.

Overall I like Westy more, better QB, more consistent coaching, a better D and Oline, no great WR in Philly.

true, but the flip side is that Kubiak has had a RB rank in the top 10 in total yards from scrimmage in each of the past 10 seasons in Denver..If he could get `Jake the Fake` Plummer to play at a Pro Bowl level, maybe he can work some magic with Carr?! and, if he can get a no-name guy like Olandis Gary to become a top RB, I think he can work wonders with DD..the fact that they didn't take Bush speaks volumes of what they expect from DD in '06...one more thing about Kubiak: he doesn't pull guys at the line of scrimmage, so perhaps DD could get a boatload of TD's this season...

if he stays healthy, that is!



As for Westy, six games against the NFC East foes will be tough for the Eagles..

every team in that division got much stronger in the offseason. Six games vs. what could be 3 of the top 10 defenses in the NFL..

DD plays against the lowly Titans defense, Indy's overrated and undersized defense, and Jacksonville's misleading defense ( they weren't great against the run for much of the 2005 season)

so, six games vs. suspect defenses for DD, or, Westy in six games vs. 3 pontentiall dominating defenses...

I'll take DD for $200, Alex...

So is it fair to say that DD has more upside with the changes in HOU?

Yes - DM and Westy and LJ Smith are good and all but not one defense will worry about any wrs on philly until they show the league something they havent seen. Pinkston is scared to catch with anyone near him, brown is good but will take lots of coverage. Houston - despite the o-line problems, Adding Moulds and Putzier opens things up for the line. They are also learning zone blocking - carried over from Denver O. Carr will be taught the bootleg as was discussed last night on NFL total access.

Im not calling houston the second coming of Indy O but for once I trust the rb in Houston more than the rb in Philly.

 

[stbugs]

I love DD's potential and Westie's in PPR, but lets look at facts. First DD has already got a top 5 season under his belt in FBG's scoring (non-PPR) and Westbrook only has a #10 finish in non-PPR.

I also think that DD's backups were far more consistent in games that DD missed than Westbrook's were (Moats had 2 good games and 2 awful 1 or 2 point games).

I am a bit concerned about DD's health, but as shocking as it seems, the Houston offense has produced top 10 RB numbers per game in the last 3 years with DD and Wells/Morency starting. I don't think people realize how good Houston's running game has been. With Kubiak, Moulds, Putzier and potential improvements on the OL from the rookies, I think that overall Houston's offense will improve and DD/backup will do well again.