Westbrook without McNabb (1 Viewer)

[Steel Town]

Westbrook owner here, and I gotta tell you there is a part of me that wouldn't be upset if Westbrook missed the flight for this game. I just hope he makes out of there alive. AJ Feeley will be walking into a hornet's nest on Sunday Night, and you have to think that the Pats will be gameplanning to shut down Westbrook. All that being said, what type of numbers do we expect out our boy this weekend. I think Reid will give Buckhalter a few series to take some pressure off Westbrook, at least a few 1st and 2nd downs. I think Feeley will have to find Westy out of the backfield, but hopefully can have some success downfield to keep the safeties honest. Which leads me to 15/70 on the ground and another 5/45 out of the backfield. I am not expecting him to find paydirt.

Anyone think he will do better? Worse?

 

[JPeso]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

 

[Fantaholic]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

 

[Devius]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely realy is.

and last year they had Garcia

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Westbrook is a special talent...he will get his. More thru the air than grinding it out. J.Addia did pretty good vs the pats. Many believe the pats LB`s are older and a little slow...maybe he breaks thru on some screens.

 

[JPeso]

Westbrook should have 140-150 combined yards, 5-6 receptions, and obvious potential to score a TD or 2.

Feeley is a capable backup QB. With that said, the Pats are going to crush Philly, but they would do that even if McNabb was playing IMO.

 

[Fantaholic]

Westbrook is a special talent...he will get his. More thru the air than grinding it out. J.Addia did pretty good vs the pats. Many believe the pats LB`s are older and a little slow...maybe he breaks thru on some screens.

You must have Westy Addai did have success against us, however Manning and Wayne were held in check.

 

[azngangster]

You have to start the guy, he is the number one rb in all of fantasy football in almost all formats. I think he will have a solid day, because he is that offense. They will find ways to get him the ball, via the air or the run. Last week he had 32 rushes, a career high, but only 1 rec. I think he will have more balanced rushing and receiving totals this week. Like a 15 for 80 yd day with like 6 catches sprinkled in for like 60 to 70 yds. I wouldn't be shocked to see him get 10+ catches either, like his insane 14 catches against Dallas.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Westbrook had a pretty good game last week after McNabb went out. The only negative was that Feely didn't look to him in the passing game. I think he only had one or two targets. So if you are in a PPR league, it might be a downgrade. But I have to think that Feely will be forced to throw to him this week against NE.

 

[Keith Lewis]

15 carries, 32 yards

7 catches, 18 yards

0 TDS

 

[dparker713]

The Pats defense is decent, but they're not amazing or anything. Westbrook will get plenty of garbage time stats, as the game will be in garbage time by the second quarter.

 

[splitvizionz]

15 carries, 32 yards7 catches, 18 yards0 TDS

ridiculous.. go away.

 

[renesauz]

The Pats defense is decent, but they're not amazing or anything. Westbrook will get plenty of garbage time stats, as the game will be in garbage time by the second quarter.

We have a winner. The Pats are good on defense, but hardly overwhelming, so Westbrook will have a great game, and Feely will be fine. The Pats offense OTOH..........

 

[Judge Smails]

15 carries, 32 yards7 catches, 18 yards0 TDS

ridiculous.. go away.

It's not that ridiculous. We've all seen Westbrook go from superstud to nothing when his supporting cast is out. AJ is no Garcia. Why wouldn't the Pats just put 99% of their emphasis on stopping Westbrook? QB can hurt them. WR's can't hurt them. I expect Westy to be shut down, with most of his yardage coming on meaningless 3rd and long draw plays.

 

[Downontheupside]

It's not that ridiculous. We've all seen Westbrook go from superstud to nothing when his supporting cast is out. AJ is no Garcia. Why wouldn't the Pats just put 99% of their emphasis on stopping Westbrook? QB can hurt them. WR's can't hurt them. I expect Westy to be shut down, with most of his yardage coming on meaningless 3rd and long draw plays.

Mcnabb has had some very inadequate games this year and Westbrook's numbers still shined. The passing game has been attroicious at some points this year and Westy still came through. So saying he relies on his supporting cast is totally ridiculous. If anything his supporting cast relies on him. He's the offense.

It doesn't matter what run defense he is facing, the vikings held almost everyone in check all year including LT and Westbrook still won't off on them from a fantasy standpoint. The fact that Mcnabb is out will only mean they will lean on Westbrook even more which means more touches. I can see AJ dumping it off to him all night especially if they fall behind big and NE seconardy plays back. Much like what happened against Dallas. I don't know if he'll crack 100 yards on the ground but I'm expecting something like this...

18-70

9-40

Maybe a TD maybe not. He wont have a monster game, but he'll get you atleast 20 points in a PPR league, like he's been doing all year. put it in the bank.

 

[Gopher State]

He's make take on the NE vs Philly game:

NE gives up 181 yards passing per game and 89 yards rushing per game good numbers.

IMO the worst QB they faced this year was C. Lemon of MIA in that game RB's went:

Brown 17-76, 5-30

Chatman 7-73-1

The FINS rushed for 3 TD's in that game, and scored 28 points

I think Philly plays better then people expect and stay with the running game more then other teams like Wash etc., they follow the MIA plan. I think most would agree westbrook is an above average RB, so based on that I predict:

18-90 (just above the average NE allows for rushing)

5- 45 1td Receiving

Not a great day for Westbrook, but not someone you want on your FF bench.

 

[nflandboobs]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

Yeah, I agree. New England really has to worry about Westy, and that's it. I own him in a league too, and I'm sitting him. Considering he's what makes the Eagles offense work, I can't see the Pats not focusing on shutting him down.

 

[SSOG]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

I don't get where New England got this "we shut down your #1 option" reputation, but it's bordering on ridiculous now. Football Outsiders has them ranked 11th in the league against opposing #1 WRs, 13th against opposing #2s, and 11th against the run. Coles had 2 TDs against them. Gates had 7/77/1. Marshawn Lynch had 80 yards and a score. T.J. Housh had 100 yards and a score. Braylon Edwards caught 6 balls for 110 yards (and Winslow had 49 yards and a score). Terrell Owens had 66 yards and a score. Oh yeah, and you might have heard of this Joseph Addai guy... he had 100 yards rushing and receiving, finishing with 226 total yards and a score. That's 7 different #1 or #1a guys, and they've got 8 TDs between them (as well as 70+ yards on average).New England's defensive reputation is so dramatically out of line with reality this season. Their defense is very good, but it's their offense that makes that team so great.

 

[Gopher State]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

Yeah, I agree. New England really has to worry about Westy, and that's it. I own him in a league too, and I'm sitting him. Considering he's what makes the Eagles offense work, I can't see the Pats not focusing on shutting him down.

Good point Westy is 39% of Phillys rushing/passing yards. I would think anyteam that plays Philly would try to shut Westy down first? Most have not done a good job doing it. If the Buffalo Bills with the A-Train can rush for a total of 78 yards against NE, I put my trust in Westy. You have to have a very deep FF bench to not play him. If your playing guys like J. Lewis, C. Benson, Maroney, over Westy, I think your leaving points on your bench.

 

[Leo2228]

He's make take on the NE vs Philly game:NE gives up 181 yards passing per game and 89 yards rushing per game good numbers.IMO the worst QB they faced this year was C. Lemon of MIA in that game RB's went:Brown 17-76, 5-30Chatman 7-73-1The FINS rushed for 3 TD's in that game, and scored 28 pointsI think Philly plays better then people expect and stay with the running game more then other teams like Wash etc., they follow the MIA plan. I think most would agree westbrook is an above average RB, so based on that I predict:18-90 (just above the average NE allows for rushing)5- 45 1td ReceivingNot a great day for Westbrook, but not someone you want on your FF bench.

This is a good thread i have been thinking the same thing all week . I am torn between Westbrook or Ron Dayne . right now it Dayne but after reading this thread it my be Westbrook

 

[-OZ-]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

Yeah, I agree. New England really has to worry about Westy, and that's it. I own him in a league too, and I'm sitting him. Considering he's what makes the Eagles offense work, I can't see the Pats not focusing on shutting him down.

Good point Westy is 39% of Phillys rushing/passing yards. I would think anyteam that plays Philly would try to shut Westy down first? Most have not done a good job doing it. If the Buffalo Bills with the A-Train can rush for a total of 78 yards against NE, I put my trust in Westy. You have to have a very deep FF bench to not play him. If your playing guys like J. Lewis, C. Benson, Maroney, over Westy, I think your leaving points on your bench.

Agreed. Now how about Portis?

 

[splitvizionz]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

I don't get where New England got this "we shut down your #1 option" reputation, but it's bordering on ridiculous now. Football Outsiders has them ranked 11th in the league against opposing #1 WRs, 13th against opposing #2s, and 11th against the run. Coles had 2 TDs against them. Gates had 7/77/1. Marshawn Lynch had 80 yards and a score. T.J. Housh had 100 yards and a score. Braylon Edwards caught 6 balls for 110 yards (and Winslow had 49 yards and a score). Terrell Owens had 66 yards and a score. Oh yeah, and you might have heard of this Joseph Addai guy... he had 100 yards rushing and receiving, finishing with 226 total yards and a score. That's 7 different #1 or #1a guys, and they've got 8 TDs between them (as well as 70+ yards on average).New England's defensive reputation is so dramatically out of line with reality this season. Their defense is very good, but it's their offense that makes that team so great.

This post should win some type of award because it is so on point.

 

[teamroc]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

I don't get where New England got this "we shut down your #1 option" reputation, but it's bordering on ridiculous now. Football Outsiders has them ranked 11th in the league against opposing #1 WRs, 13th against opposing #2s, and 11th against the run. Coles had 2 TDs against them. Gates had 7/77/1. Marshawn Lynch had 80 yards and a score. T.J. Housh had 100 yards and a score. Braylon Edwards caught 6 balls for 110 yards (and Winslow had 49 yards and a score). Terrell Owens had 66 yards and a score. Oh yeah, and you might have heard of this Joseph Addai guy... he had 100 yards rushing and receiving, finishing with 226 total yards and a score. That's 7 different #1 or #1a guys, and they've got 8 TDs between them (as well as 70+ yards on average).New England's defensive reputation is so dramatically out of line with reality this season. Their defense is very good, but it's their offense that makes that team so great.

Coles had Crotchery and TJ.Lynch has uh Evans.Housh has Palmer/CJ.Edwards has DA/Winslow.TO has Romo/Witten.Addai has Manning/Wayne.Westbrook has, Reggie Brown?With McNabb out, the Eagles has NO weapons beyond Westbrook. The corners can play 1 on 1, Brown is awful. LJ Smith is iffy. The QB is a backup.So we have the entire Pats coaching staff trying to stop Westbrook. No one else even remotely scares them. I'm not sure how you can toss in Browns/Cinci/Colts/Dallas as if they even remotely compare to the McNabb-less Eagles. It's a one trick offense, who will be playing from behind, against the best team in the league.It's a bad match up, but you still have to start Westbrook. But 90 yards and 0 tds wouldn't be a shock.

 

[Tar Heel Boy]

Being a Westbrook owner in a PPR league, I'm expecting

60 Yds rushing

5 Receptions for 40 yds and a possible TD.

Anything over that and I'd be thrilled.

 

[Fantaholic]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

I don't get where New England got this "we shut down your #1 option" reputation, but it's bordering on ridiculous now. Football Outsiders has them ranked 11th in the league against opposing #1 WRs, 13th against opposing #2s, and 11th against the run. Coles had 2 TDs against them. Gates had 7/77/1. Marshawn Lynch had 80 yards and a score. T.J. Housh had 100 yards and a score. Braylon Edwards caught 6 balls for 110 yards (and Winslow had 49 yards and a score). Terrell Owens had 66 yards and a score. Oh yeah, and you might have heard of this Joseph Addai guy... he had 100 yards rushing and receiving, finishing with 226 total yards and a score. That's 7 different #1 or #1a guys, and they've got 8 TDs between them (as well as 70+ yards on average).New England's defensive reputation is so dramatically out of line with reality this season. Their defense is very good, but it's their offense that makes that team so great.

This post should win some type of award because it is so on point.

Why? Because the almighty SSOG said so??? Because, my initial post is still correct even with his flurry of jabs. I said the Patriots will focus on shutting down your #1 and #2 options as they see it. Coles had a decent game against them. however Jones. Pennington, and Cotchery were pedestrian. Gates had an average game for himself. How did LT2 do? Marshawn played well, but only averaged 3.7 yards a carry. A bit misleading there. Evans nothing.Braylon had good yardage but failed to score. Lewis had 11 yards. Anderson threw 3 picks to go along with his 2 TD's.Housh good game. However, Chad not so good. Palmer 234 yards 1 TD 2 Int'sOwens 66 yards and a score. I don't know if you've been watching this year, but that's actually an off game for him. Barber, Jones. Romo held in check. And oh yeah Addai, like I mentioned above. He had a good game, but how did Wayne and Manning do???SSOG, always looking to debunk. For the record I am not implying in anyway that Westy should be benched this week. However, if you're counting on him to put up 200 yards combined yards and a couple of scores then you will be disappointed. Unlike any of these other games mentioned, Philly only has one true threat on the field this week. The Patriots will not let him beat them.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

I don't get where New England got this "we shut down your #1 option" reputation, but it's bordering on ridiculous now. Football Outsiders has them ranked 11th in the league against opposing #1 WRs, 13th against opposing #2s, and 11th against the run. Coles had 2 TDs against them. Gates had 7/77/1. Marshawn Lynch had 80 yards and a score. T.J. Housh had 100 yards and a score. Braylon Edwards caught 6 balls for 110 yards (and Winslow had 49 yards and a score). Terrell Owens had 66 yards and a score. Oh yeah, and you might have heard of this Joseph Addai guy... he had 100 yards rushing and receiving, finishing with 226 total yards and a score. That's 7 different #1 or #1a guys, and they've got 8 TDs between them (as well as 70+ yards on average).New England's defensive reputation is so dramatically out of line with reality this season. Their defense is very good, but it's their offense that makes that team so great.

Coles had Crotchery and TJ.Lynch has uh Evans.Housh has Palmer/CJ.Edwards has DA/Winslow.TO has Romo/Witten.Addai has Manning/Wayne.Westbrook has, Reggie Brown?With McNabb out, the Eagles has NO weapons beyond Westbrook. The corners can play 1 on 1, Brown is awful. LJ Smith is iffy. The QB is a backup.So we have the entire Pats coaching staff trying to stop Westbrook. No one else even remotely scares them. I'm not sure how you can toss in Browns/Cinci/Colts/Dallas as if they even remotely compare to the McNabb-less Eagles. It's a one trick offense, who will be playing from behind, against the best team in the league.It's a bad match up, but you still have to start Westbrook. But 90 yards and 0 tds wouldn't be a shock.

If this is the case then would`nt every team that has played them shut westy down ???From what i have seen they have`nt...what makes the pats the only team to be able to do so...or are they the only team to try ????

 

[teamroc]

If this is the case then would`nt every team that has played them shut westy down ???From what i have seen they have`nt...what makes the pats the only team to be able to do so...or are they the only team to try ????

News Flash, McNabb is out. The offense is built around McNabb and throwing it 40 times a game. Feeley is going to be a train wreck.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

If this is the case then would`nt every team that has played them shut westy down ???From what i have seen they have`nt...what makes the pats the only team to be able to do so...or are they the only team to try ????

News Flash, McNabb is out. The offense is built around McNabb and throwing it 40 times a game. Feeley is going to be a train wreck.

news flashMcNabb is no peyton.Feeley looked alright last week throwing the ball...certainly no worse than C. Lemon

 

[KellysHeroes]

anyone think the Philly WRs worth playing tomorrow night????

 

[Dirty Weasel]

at GB - McNabb-15 for 33, 184yds, 1TD, 1INT, Westy-20 carries for 85yds, 6 catches for 46yds

vs WAS - McNabb-28 for 46, 240yds, Westy-17 carries for 96yds, 8 catches for 66yds

vs DET - McNabb-21 for 26, 381yds, 4TD's, Westy-14 carries for 110yds and 2TD's, 5 catches for 111yds and 1TD

at NYG - McNabb-15 for 31, 138yds, Westy-OUT

at NYJ - McNabb-22 for 35, 278yds, 1TD, 1INT, Westy-20 carries for 120yds, 6 catches for 36yds

vs CHI - McNabb-21 for 34, 226yds, 1TD, Westy-18 carries for 79yds, 6 catches for 40yds

at MIN - McNabb-23 for 36, 333yds, 1TD, Westy-21 carries for 46yds and 1TD, 4 catches for 46yds and 1TD

vs DAL - McNabb-27 for 46, 264yds, 1TD, 2INT's, Westy-16 carries for 65yds and 1TD, 14 catches for 90yds

at WAS - McNabb-20 for 28, 251yds, 4TD's, Westy-20 carries for 100yds and 1TD, 5 catches for 83yds and 2TD's

vs MIA - McNabb-3 for 11, 34yds, 2INT's (replaced by Feeley), Westy-32 carries for 148yds, 1 catch for 0yds

As you can see, McNabb has only had 2 very good games. Of course, these were also Westy's best 2 games. Of McNabb's other 9.25 games, he has thrown just 5TD's and 6INT's. What I see is that even when McNabb puts up a clunker, Westy still manages to get his stats. He has at least 119 total yards in every game except when he played MIN, but he still managed 92 total yards and 2 TD's in that game. Check out McNabb's stats when Westy sat out the game against the Giants. Looks to me like Westy doesn't count on McNabb to have a good game; it is the other way around. I could see if Westy wasn't a great pass-catching RB, but a pass-catching RB doesn't need a good game from his QB to have a nice fantasy day. Just ask LT. Rivers has been complete garbage this year, but LT trails only Westy in my fantasy league among RB's.

 

[Slider]

Losing McNabb means nothing. The Eagles have a better record without him anyway.

 

[SSOG]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

I don't get where New England got this "we shut down your #1 option" reputation, but it's bordering on ridiculous now. Football Outsiders has them ranked 11th in the league against opposing #1 WRs, 13th against opposing #2s, and 11th against the run. Coles had 2 TDs against them. Gates had 7/77/1. Marshawn Lynch had 80 yards and a score. T.J. Housh had 100 yards and a score. Braylon Edwards caught 6 balls for 110 yards (and Winslow had 49 yards and a score). Terrell Owens had 66 yards and a score. Oh yeah, and you might have heard of this Joseph Addai guy... he had 100 yards rushing and receiving, finishing with 226 total yards and a score. That's 7 different #1 or #1a guys, and they've got 8 TDs between them (as well as 70+ yards on average).New England's defensive reputation is so dramatically out of line with reality this season. Their defense is very good, but it's their offense that makes that team so great.

Coles had Crotchery and TJ.Lynch has uh Evans.Housh has Palmer/CJ.Edwards has DA/Winslow.TO has Romo/Witten.Addai has Manning/Wayne.Westbrook has, Reggie Brown?With McNabb out, the Eagles has NO weapons beyond Westbrook. The corners can play 1 on 1, Brown is awful. LJ Smith is iffy. The QB is a backup.So we have the entire Pats coaching staff trying to stop Westbrook. No one else even remotely scares them. I'm not sure how you can toss in Browns/Cinci/Colts/Dallas as if they even remotely compare to the McNabb-less Eagles. It's a one trick offense, who will be playing from behind, against the best team in the league.It's a bad match up, but you still have to start Westbrook. But 90 yards and 0 tds wouldn't be a shock.

The difference is that Westbrook has a history of stud production with no one else to draw attention from him, and New England has no history of being extraordinarily capable of shutting down a team's primary weapon.Look, I'll make this easy. Brian Westbrook is the #1 RB in fantasy football, DESPITE MISSING A GAME. He averages more points per game than Adrian Peterson. Would anyone suggest sitting Adrian Peterson against New England? Would anyone even be considering it? But somehow, because it's Westbrook, people are going Chicken Little on us. Brian Westbrook is the Rodney Dangerfield of fantasy football. A tip: You don't sit the #1 RB in fantasy football, especially not when he's #1 despite playing one fewer game than most other RBs, and ESPECIALLY not for Ron Dayne (as one poster suggested he was considering doing). I don't care if he's playing the 2000 Baltimore Ravens. You just don't.

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

I don't get where New England got this "we shut down your #1 option" reputation, but it's bordering on ridiculous now. Football Outsiders has them ranked 11th in the league against opposing #1 WRs, 13th against opposing #2s, and 11th against the run. Coles had 2 TDs against them. Gates had 7/77/1. Marshawn Lynch had 80 yards and a score. T.J. Housh had 100 yards and a score. Braylon Edwards caught 6 balls for 110 yards (and Winslow had 49 yards and a score). Terrell Owens had 66 yards and a score. Oh yeah, and you might have heard of this Joseph Addai guy... he had 100 yards rushing and receiving, finishing with 226 total yards and a score. That's 7 different #1 or #1a guys, and they've got 8 TDs between them (as well as 70+ yards on average).New England's defensive reputation is so dramatically out of line with reality this season. Their defense is very good, but it's their offense that makes that team so great.

This post should win some type of award because it is so on point.

Why? Because the almighty SSOG said so??? Because, my initial post is still correct even with his flurry of jabs. I said the Patriots will focus on shutting down your #1 and #2 options as they see it. Coles had a decent game against them. however Jones. Pennington, and Cotchery were pedestrian. Gates had an average game for himself. How did LT2 do? Marshawn played well, but only averaged 3.7 yards a carry. A bit misleading there. Evans nothing.Braylon had good yardage but failed to score. Lewis had 11 yards. Anderson threw 3 picks to go along with his 2 TD's.Housh good game. However, Chad not so good. Palmer 234 yards 1 TD 2 Int'sOwens 66 yards and a score. I don't know if you've been watching this year, but that's actually an off game for him. Barber, Jones. Romo held in check. And oh yeah Addai, like I mentioned above. He had a good game, but how did Wayne and Manning do???SSOG, always looking to debunk. For the record I am not implying in anyway that Westy should be benched this week. However, if you're counting on him to put up 200 yards combined yards and a couple of scores then you will be disappointed. Unlike any of these other games mentioned, Philly only has one true threat on the field this week. The Patriots will not let him beat them.

Wait, first you say that New England shuts down the #1 option, and now you say that New England FOCUSES on shutting down the #1 option? Oh, well hey, I better not start Westbrook against New England, because they're going to TRY to deny him his stats.I also like how you get into details about the players that New England DID shut down. First you say that New England shuts down a team's primary option, and then you change your tune and say that New England shuts down a lot of a team's options, but not all of them. The crux of your argument is that 66 yards and a score is an off game for Terrell Owens, or that New England held Marshawn Lynch to .1 yards per carry below his season average, or that Edwards didn't find the end zone to go with his 100 yard game? Look, lots of players have had very good games against New England- even some guys who are the primary weapon on their team. That's pretty much the end of the discussion right there.Brian Westbrook has been the most dominant RB in all of fantasy football this season, by a pretty significant margin. New England has demonstrated no special ability to shut down a team's primary weapon. This should be a no-brainer decision.

 

[Fantaholic]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

I don't get where New England got this "we shut down your #1 option" reputation, but it's bordering on ridiculous now. Football Outsiders has them ranked 11th in the league against opposing #1 WRs, 13th against opposing #2s, and 11th against the run. Coles had 2 TDs against them. Gates had 7/77/1. Marshawn Lynch had 80 yards and a score. T.J. Housh had 100 yards and a score. Braylon Edwards caught 6 balls for 110 yards (and Winslow had 49 yards and a score). Terrell Owens had 66 yards and a score. Oh yeah, and you might have heard of this Joseph Addai guy... he had 100 yards rushing and receiving, finishing with 226 total yards and a score. That's 7 different #1 or #1a guys, and they've got 8 TDs between them (as well as 70+ yards on average).New England's defensive reputation is so dramatically out of line with reality this season. Their defense is very good, but it's their offense that makes that team so great.

Coles had Crotchery and TJ.Lynch has uh Evans.

Housh has Palmer/CJ.

Edwards has DA/Winslow.

TO has Romo/Witten.

Addai has Manning/Wayne.

Westbrook has, Reggie Brown?

With McNabb out, the Eagles has NO weapons beyond Westbrook. The corners can play 1 on 1, Brown is awful. LJ Smith is iffy. The QB is a backup.

So we have the entire Pats coaching staff trying to stop Westbrook. No one else even remotely scares them. I'm not sure how you can toss in Browns/Cinci/Colts/Dallas as if they even remotely compare to the McNabb-less Eagles. It's a one trick offense, who will be playing from behind, against the best team in the league.

It's a bad match up, but you still have to start Westbrook. But 90 yards and 0 tds wouldn't be a shock.

The difference is that Westbrook has a history of stud production with no one else to draw attention from him, and New England has no history of being extraordinarily capable of shutting down a team's primary weapon.Look, I'll make this easy. Brian Westbrook is the #1 RB in fantasy football, DESPITE MISSING A GAME. He averages more points per game than Adrian Peterson. Would anyone suggest sitting Adrian Peterson against New England? Would anyone even be considering it? But somehow, because it's Westbrook, people are going Chicken Little on us. Brian Westbrook is the Rodney Dangerfield of fantasy football. A tip: You don't sit the #1 RB in fantasy football, especially not when he's #1 despite playing one fewer game than most other RBs, and ESPECIALLY not for Ron Dayne (as one poster suggested he was considering doing). I don't care if he's playing the 2000 Baltimore Ravens. You just don't.

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

I don't get where New England got this "we shut down your #1 option" reputation, but it's bordering on ridiculous now. Football Outsiders has them ranked 11th in the league against opposing #1 WRs, 13th against opposing #2s, and 11th against the run. Coles had 2 TDs against them. Gates had 7/77/1. Marshawn Lynch had 80 yards and a score. T.J. Housh had 100 yards and a score. Braylon Edwards caught 6 balls for 110 yards (and Winslow had 49 yards and a score). Terrell Owens had 66 yards and a score. Oh yeah, and you might have heard of this Joseph Addai guy... he had 100 yards rushing and receiving, finishing with 226 total yards and a score. That's 7 different #1 or #1a guys, and they've got 8 TDs between them (as well as 70+ yards on average).New England's defensive reputation is so dramatically out of line with reality this season. Their defense is very good, but it's their offense that makes that team so great.

This post should win some type of award because it is so on point.

Why? Because the almighty SSOG said so??? Because, my initial post is still correct even with his flurry of jabs. I said the Patriots will focus on shutting down your #1 and #2 options as they see it. Coles had a decent game against them. however Jones. Pennington, and Cotchery were pedestrian.

Gates had an average game for himself. How did LT2 do?

Marshawn played well, but only averaged 3.7 yards a carry. A bit misleading there. Evans nothing.

Braylon had good yardage but failed to score. Lewis had 11 yards. Anderson threw 3 picks to go along with his 2 TD's.

Housh good game. However, Chad not so good. Palmer 234 yards 1 TD 2 Int's

Owens 66 yards and a score. I don't know if you've been watching this year, but that's actually an off game for him. Barber, Jones. Romo held in check.

And oh yeah Addai, like I mentioned above. He had a good game, but how did Wayne and Manning do???

SSOG, always looking to debunk.

For the record I am not implying in anyway that Westy should be benched this week. However, if you're counting on him to put up 200 yards combined yards and a couple of scores then you will be disappointed. Unlike any of these other games mentioned, Philly only has one true threat on the field this week. The Patriots will not let him beat them.

Wait, first you say that New England shuts down the #1 option, and now you say that New England FOCUSES on shutting down the #1 option? Oh, well hey, I better not start Westbrook against New England, because they're going to TRY to deny him his stats.I also like how you get into details about the players that New England DID shut down. First you say that New England shuts down a team's primary option, and then you change your tune and say that New England shuts down a lot of a team's options, but not all of them. The crux of your argument is that 66 yards and a score is an off game for Terrell Owens, or that New England held Marshawn Lynch to .1 yards per carry below his season average, or that Edwards didn't find the end zone to go with his 100 yard game? Look, lots of players have had very good games against New England- even some guys who are the primary weapon on their team. That's pretty much the end of the discussion right there.

Brian Westbrook has been the most dominant RB in all of fantasy football this season, by a pretty significant margin. New England has demonstrated no special ability to shut down a team's primary weapon. This should be a no-brainer decision.

Thank you. Bottomline, very seldom will a team's primary option have a superb performance against the Belichick led Patriots. This week poses a unique problem for Westbrook, because he is virtually all by himself. There is NO one else scaring the Patriots with Mcnabb out. It is going to be very tough for Westbrook to stand out in this game let alone do what he has been averaging all season.

 

[dparker713]

Thank you. Bottomline, very seldom will a team's primary option have a superb performance against the Belichick led Patriots. This week poses a unique problem for Westbrook, because he is virtually all by himself. There is NO one else scaring the Patriots with Mcnabb out. It is going to be very tough for Westbrook to stand out in this game let alone do what he has been averaging all season.

Wow, you're really over estimating the Pats defense.

 

[Fantaholic]

Thank you. Bottomline, very seldom will a team's primary option have a superb performance against the Belichick led Patriots. This week poses a unique problem for Westbrook, because he is virtually all by himself. There is NO one else scaring the Patriots with Mcnabb out. It is going to be very tough for Westbrook to stand out in this game let alone do what he has been averaging all season.

Wow, you're really over estimating the Pats defense.

Or perhaps you are under-estimating Belichick's game planning. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Thank you. Bottomline, very seldom will a team's primary option have a superb performance against the Belichick led Patriots. This week poses a unique problem for Westbrook, because he is virtually all by himself. There is NO one else scaring the Patriots with Mcnabb out. It is going to be very tough for Westbrook to stand out in this game let alone do what he has been averaging all season.

Wow, you're really over estimating the Pats defense.

I think he`s overestimating Mcnabb....who does`nt scare anyone...yet westy still performs week in and week out. I think the pats still have to account for the wr`s and te ...it`s not like they can put 8-9 guys in the box all game. If curtis gets behind the secondary he scores...period.

 

[Fantaholic]

Thank you. Bottomline, very seldom will a team's primary option have a superb performance against the Belichick led Patriots. This week poses a unique problem for Westbrook, because he is virtually all by himself. There is NO one else scaring the Patriots with Mcnabb out. It is going to be very tough for Westbrook to stand out in this game let alone do what he has been averaging all season.

Wow, you're really over estimating the Pats defense.

I think he`s overestimating Mcnabb....who does`nt scare anyone...yet westy still performs week in and week out. I think the pats still have to account for the wr`s and te ...it`s not like they can put 8-9 guys in the box all game. If curtis gets behind the secondary he scores...period.

Here's to wishful thinking Knuckles

 

[SSOG]

Thank you. Bottomline, very seldom will a team's primary option have a superb performance against the Belichick led Patriots. This week poses a unique problem for Westbrook, because he is virtually all by himself. There is NO one else scaring the Patriots with Mcnabb out. It is going to be very tough for Westbrook to stand out in this game let alone do what he has been averaging all season.

Wait, why did you thank me? I just said that the Pats don't have any magical ability to shut down a team's #1 weapon.Yes, Brian Westbrook is all Philly has. He's been all Philly had all season long, and he's still dominated the fantasy landscape in a way that no other RB can touch- not Tomlinson, not Addai, not Peterson, not anyone... but suddenly, because he's playing the magical mystical New England defense, Westbrook owners should be worried? You want to talk about special defenses this year, how about Minnesota. Their run defense is truly special this year. How'd Westbrook do against them? Oh yeah, 92 yards and 2 scores. Dallas has been pretty good at shutting down RBs this year, too. Westbrook got 155/1 against them. Maybe those two defenses just lack that magical mystical power to shut down a team's primary option, though- and by "shut down", I mean allow more than 70 yards and a score while holding WRs to only average games and RBs to .1 yards per carry below their season average.FBGs has Westbrook as the #2 RB on their cheatsheets this week. That looks pretty good to me. I'll take my chances with him.

 

[Downontheupside]

We can debate all we want but Westbrook is a must start every week no matter who he plays. He can have 50 yards rushing and score more or as much as running backs that have 100 and a TD. I'm starting him with confidence that he'll get around his season average, even if it's a little less, it's still better than most running backs out there.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Thank you. Bottomline, very seldom will a team's primary option have a superb performance against the Belichick led Patriots. This week poses a unique problem for Westbrook, because he is virtually all by himself. There is NO one else scaring the Patriots with Mcnabb out. It is going to be very tough for Westbrook to stand out in this game let alone do what he has been averaging all season.

Wow, you're really over estimating the Pats defense.

I think he`s overestimating Mcnabb....who does`nt scare anyone...yet westy still performs week in and week out. I think the pats still have to account for the wr`s and te ...it`s not like they can put 8-9 guys in the box all game. If curtis gets behind the secondary he scores...period.

Here's to wishful thinking Knuckles

pats fans definetly need to get knocked down a couple of notches...i know , i`m surrounded by them as i live in boston.I hope the team is as full of themselves as the fans are....then they will feel defeat.

 

[azngangster]

Just throwing this out there, but would people have considered benching the number one fantasy rb in past years such as Tomlinson, Alexander, Holmes, Faulk, etc. just because he was facing a tough defense? It seems like because we are talking about brian westbrook, that we are considering benching him. The dude never gets his due. He is the number 1 fantasy runningback while missing a game. No one should ever consider benching that, not matter who he is playing. The guy even produced well against Minnesota.

Just my

 

[thewaterboys]

Let's forget about the Pats defense for a minute and think about their offense and the pressure they put on their opponent. It's tough to stay in your gameplan to run the ball with Westbrook when you are down by 21+ points. This means Feeley will be airing it out (at least for the second half). If he gets Westbrook into the passing game then Westy should have an OK game. That is a big IF especially if you have another viable option to play today. Just my 2 cents

 

[Workhorse]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

I don't get where New England got this "we shut down your #1 option" reputation, but it's bordering on ridiculous now. Football Outsiders has them ranked 11th in the league against opposing #1 WRs, 13th against opposing #2s, and 11th against the run. Coles had 2 TDs against them. Gates had 7/77/1. Marshawn Lynch had 80 yards and a score. T.J. Housh had 100 yards and a score. Braylon Edwards caught 6 balls for 110 yards (and Winslow had 49 yards and a score). Terrell Owens had 66 yards and a score. Oh yeah, and you might have heard of this Joseph Addai guy... he had 100 yards rushing and receiving, finishing with 226 total yards and a score. That's 7 different #1 or #1a guys, and they've got 8 TDs between them (as well as 70+ yards on average).New England's defensive reputation is so dramatically out of line with reality this season. Their defense is very good, but it's their offense that makes that team so great.

The very same source you cited, Football Outsiders, also has the Pats rated as the #3 defense in football in Defensive DVOA. I'd say their defensive reputation is pretty well deserved this season.

 

[Traders2001]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely realy is.

and last year they had Garcia

Garcia is a proven NFL QB , Feely is nt even a NFL back up ( Totally untalented )

 

[Tanner9919]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

Addai had a career game vs. Patriots just a few weeks ago, and they were without Harrison and Gonzalez if I'm not mistaken.Westbrook is the type of back that can kill a defense like NE, because he's a terrific receiver out of the backfield. And you can kill a speedy pass rush with screen passes and delay runs up the gut...one way to play the Pats is with the run..Indy stifled the Pats for 3.5 quarters with the run..I'd expect Philly to employ the same tactics today..and Feeley is a capable QB...Westbrook could have a GREAT day...possibly 100 rush and 100 rec yards...they will use him like Indy used Addai, and Westbrook is more talented than he is..

 

[Tar Heel Boy]

Brian Westbrook has been the most dominant RB in all of fantasy football this season, by a pretty significant margin. New England has demonstrated no special ability to shut down a team's primary weapon. This should be a no-brainer decision.

He might be the #1 RB this year, but by no means is it a pretty significant margin.

 

[Tar Heel Boy]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

Addai had a career game vs. Patriots just a few weeks ago, and they were without Harrison and Gonzalez if I'm not mistaken.Westbrook is the type of back that can kill a defense like NE, because he's a terrific receiver out of the backfield. And you can kill a speedy pass rush with screen passes and delay runs up the gut...one way to play the Pats is with the run..Indy stifled the Pats for 3.5 quarters with the run..I'd expect Philly to employ the same tactics today..and Feeley is a capable QB...Westbrook could have a GREAT day...possibly 100 rush and 100 rec yards...they will use him like Indy used Addai, and Westbrook is more talented than he is..

I'm a Westbrook owner and hope he has a huge day, but the Philly situation is much much different than Indy. Manning and Wayne are better options to have than Feeley and Curtis or Brown. Plus this game is in New England I believe.

 

[-OZ-]

Brian Westbrook has been the most dominant RB in all of fantasy football this season, by a pretty significant margin. New England has demonstrated no special ability to shut down a team's primary weapon. This should be a no-brainer decision.

He might be the #1 RB this year, but by no means is it a pretty significant margin.

Just in my main league:in points per week, he's 15% ahead of the next guy, Brown, about the same over Peterson. He's 25% ahead of LT.in the past 5 weeks, he's ahead of the #2 (Addai) by 23%; #3 (Bush) by 33%, #4 (Portis) by 50%. That's pretty dominant, and a pretty significant margin.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

"We're not intimidated by the team," Eagles running back Brian Westbrook said. "As a football player, you don't go into the game intimidated. We respect what they've done, we respect the fact that they've scored a lot of points, and it's up to us to neutralize their scoring ability and put some points on the board ourselves."

“He’s three-dimensional, if you want to look at it that way,” Patriots linebacker Junior Seau said. “He’s a running back, he’s a receiver, and he’s a blocker, and he does all three well. He’s just a great athlete. When you have a guy like Westbrook, you have to get him the ball. They’re going to make a point of that. From our end, you’re not going to stop him. You just have to contain him.”

The key for the Patriots, Seau said, will be mixing their approaches. The Pats can’t just try to jam him at the line every play, because he’ll know it’s coming. But they certainly don’t want him releasing freely out of the backfield too often, either.

“You’ve got to mix it up,” Seau said. “You can’t be one-dimensional and just go hard on a player like Westbrook. You’ve got to keep him thinking. You’ve got to make him adjust to you. Whenever you can do that, you become the offensive player and he becomes the defensive player. That’s the key.”

They’ll have Westbrook in their sights tonight, hoping to become just the second team to hold him below 100 yards from scrimmage.

 

[Tar Heel Boy]

Brian Westbrook has been the most dominant RB in all of fantasy football this season, by a pretty significant margin. New England has demonstrated no special ability to shut down a team's primary weapon. This should be a no-brainer decision.

He might be the #1 RB this year, but by no means is it a pretty significant margin.

Just in my main league:in points per week, he's 15% ahead of the next guy, Brown, about the same over Peterson. He's 25% ahead of LT.in the past 5 weeks, he's ahead of the #2 (Addai) by 23%; #3 (Bush) by 33%, #4 (Portis) by 50%. That's pretty dominant, and a pretty significant margin.

I guess it depends on the league, but in 3 of my leagues (all PPR by the way) the biggest margin of total points between he and the RB in second is 18. That's a little over a point per week.