Westbrook without McNabb (1 Viewer)

[Urinal Mint]

I'm gonna roll the dice w/ the Eagles tonight.

 

[SSOG]

Let's forget about the Pats defense for a minute and think about their offense and the pressure they put on their opponent. It's tough to stay in your gameplan to run the ball with Westbrook when you are down by 21+ points. This means Feeley will be airing it out (at least for the second half). If he gets Westbrook into the passing game then Westy should have an OK game. That is a big IF especially if you have another viable option to play today. Just my 2 cents

I think the Dallas game is a good comparison. Dallas's defense is very good, and Dallas blew Philly out. Westbrook was limited on the ground (60 yards), but got 90 yards through the air.

The very same source you cited, Football Outsiders, also has the Pats rated as the #3 defense in football in Defensive DVOA. I'd say their defensive reputation is pretty well deserved this season.

But look at *WHY* they're ranked #3. They might be #3 overall, but here's the breakdown vs. specific offensive playersefense vs. the run- 11thDefense vs. #1 WRs- 11thDefense vs. #2 WRs- 13thDefense vs. all other WRs- 3rdDefense vs. TEs- 18thDefense vs. RB receptions- 19thDoes that look like the profile of a team that "shuts down a team's primary weapon"? The only thing that New England truly shuts down are WRs 3, 4, and 5. After that, they primarily built their defensive ranking by facing far more passes (which they're strong against) than runs (which they're weak against), and then being solid in most phases of the pass but spectacular in one (passes to the teams 3rd, 4th, and 5th weapon).Pretty much, New England's defensive profile is the exact OPPOSITE of what people think it is. They aren't a team that shuts down primary weapons, they're a team that gives up average games to primary weapons while shutting down everything else and taking an offense out of its preferred game plan.

Brian Westbrook has been the most dominant RB in all of fantasy football this season, by a pretty significant margin. New England has demonstrated no special ability to shut down a team's primary weapon. This should be a no-brainer decision.

He might be the #1 RB this year, but by no means is it a pretty significant margin.

Just in my main league:in points per week, he's 15% ahead of the next guy, Brown, about the same over Peterson. He's 25% ahead of LT.in the past 5 weeks, he's ahead of the #2 (Addai) by 23%; #3 (Bush) by 33%, #4 (Portis) by 50%. That's pretty dominant, and a pretty significant margin.

I guess it depends on the league, but in 3 of my leagues (all PPR by the way) the biggest margin of total points between he and the RB in second is 18. That's a little over a point per week.

But Brian Westbrook missed a game! Brian Westbrook has scored more points in 9 games than any other RB in the entire league has scored in 10. Give him another game worth of production, and he's got a 40 point lead over RB#2.

 

[dparker713]

Not alot of running room, but he's already got a score.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

HUH...WHA...????..........(crow taste like crap)

 

[dparker713]

1st Quarter: 16 rushing, 15 receiving on 2 receptions, 1 TD

 

[dparker713]

Half: 13 rush, 43 yards, 1TD, 4 rec, 19 yards.

 

[dparker713]

3rd Quarter: 15 rush, 44 yards, 1 TD, 5 rec, 25 yards

 

[Fantaholic]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

HUH...WHA...????..........crow taste like crap)

I wouldn't know. Can you shed some light?

 

[Fantaholic]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

I don't get where New England got this "we shut down your #1 option" reputation, but it's bordering on ridiculous now. Football Outsiders has them ranked 11th in the league against opposing #1 WRs, 13th against opposing #2s, and 11th against the run. Coles had 2 TDs against them. Gates had 7/77/1. Marshawn Lynch had 80 yards and a score. T.J. Housh had 100 yards and a score. Braylon Edwards caught 6 balls for 110 yards (and Winslow had 49 yards and a score). Terrell Owens had 66 yards and a score. Oh yeah, and you might have heard of this Joseph Addai guy... he had 100 yards rushing and receiving, finishing with 226 total yards and a score. That's 7 different #1 or #1a guys, and they've got 8 TDs between them (as well as 70+ yards on average).New England's defensive reputation is so dramatically out of line with reality this season. Their defense is very good, but it's their offense that makes that team so great.

Coles had Crotchery and TJ.Lynch has uh Evans.

Housh has Palmer/CJ.

Edwards has DA/Winslow.

TO has Romo/Witten.

Addai has Manning/Wayne.

Westbrook has, Reggie Brown?

With McNabb out, the Eagles has NO weapons beyond Westbrook. The corners can play 1 on 1, Brown is awful. LJ Smith is iffy. The QB is a backup.

So we have the entire Pats coaching staff trying to stop Westbrook. No one else even remotely scares them. I'm not sure how you can toss in Browns/Cinci/Colts/Dallas as if they even remotely compare to the McNabb-less Eagles. It's a one trick offense, who will be playing from behind, against the best team in the league.

It's a bad match up, but you still have to start Westbrook. But 90 yards and 0 tds wouldn't be a shock.

The difference is that Westbrook has a history of stud production with no one else to draw attention from him, and New England has no history of being extraordinarily capable of shutting down a team's primary weapon.

Seems like a shut down to me. If it weren't for a gimme 1 yard TD, his numbers would be down right pitiful. Thanks for playing SSOG.

 

[dparker713]

Final: 17 rush, 52 yards, 1 TD, 7 rec, 40 yards.

Standard scoring - 15.2

PPR - 22.2

Yeah, he had just a horrible output there. Im so sorry I didnt bench him.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

HUH...WHA...????..........crow taste like crap)

I wouldn't know. Can you shed some light?

15 fantasy points from westy , i can live with that. Feely was the show tonite ,can YOU live with THAT ???Feely ,i would say,was pretty good .

 

[Fantaholic]

Final: 17 rush, 52 yards, 1 TD, 7 rec, 40 yards.Standard scoring - 15.2PPR - 22.2Yeah, he had just a horrible output there. Im so sorry I didnt bench him.

He was well short of his average in my league.

 

[SSOG]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

I don't get where New England got this "we shut down your #1 option" reputation, but it's bordering on ridiculous now. Football Outsiders has them ranked 11th in the league against opposing #1 WRs, 13th against opposing #2s, and 11th against the run. Coles had 2 TDs against them. Gates had 7/77/1. Marshawn Lynch had 80 yards and a score. T.J. Housh had 100 yards and a score. Braylon Edwards caught 6 balls for 110 yards (and Winslow had 49 yards and a score). Terrell Owens had 66 yards and a score. Oh yeah, and you might have heard of this Joseph Addai guy... he had 100 yards rushing and receiving, finishing with 226 total yards and a score. That's 7 different #1 or #1a guys, and they've got 8 TDs between them (as well as 70+ yards on average).New England's defensive reputation is so dramatically out of line with reality this season. Their defense is very good, but it's their offense that makes that team so great.

Coles had Crotchery and TJ.Lynch has uh Evans.

Housh has Palmer/CJ.

Edwards has DA/Winslow.

TO has Romo/Witten.

Addai has Manning/Wayne.

Westbrook has, Reggie Brown?

With McNabb out, the Eagles has NO weapons beyond Westbrook. The corners can play 1 on 1, Brown is awful. LJ Smith is iffy. The QB is a backup.

So we have the entire Pats coaching staff trying to stop Westbrook. No one else even remotely scares them. I'm not sure how you can toss in Browns/Cinci/Colts/Dallas as if they even remotely compare to the McNabb-less Eagles. It's a one trick offense, who will be playing from behind, against the best team in the league.

It's a bad match up, but you still have to start Westbrook. But 90 yards and 0 tds wouldn't be a shock.

The difference is that Westbrook has a history of stud production with no one else to draw attention from him, and New England has no history of being extraordinarily capable of shutting down a team's primary weapon.

Seems like a shut down to me. If it weren't for a gimme 1 yard TD, his numbers would be down right pitiful. Thanks for playing SSOG.

You realize that Westbrook had 92 yards of offense, right? If Brian Westbrook was this "shut down" in every single game for an entire season, he'd finish with 1472 yards and 16 scores.

 

[Fantaholic]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

HUH...WHA...????..........crow taste like crap)

I wouldn't know. Can you shed some light?

15 fantasy points from westy , i can live with that. Feely was the show tonite ,can YOU live with THAT ???Feely ,i would say,was pretty good .

I will gladly eat crow on my Feely comment. He played his #### off tonight. However, my main point in this thread was that the Pats would shut down Westy. They did keep him below his season avergae by 7 points in my league. Considering the lofty numbers that some were predicting, I would say I was correct.

 

[SSOG]

Final: 17 rush, 52 yards, 1 TD, 7 rec, 40 yards.Standard scoring - 15.2PPR - 22.2Yeah, he had just a horrible output there. Im so sorry I didnt bench him.

He was well short of his average in my league.

Here's the funny thing about averages- you underperform them half the time. Actually, thanks to the way that outliers skew the mean, and high outliers have a bigger impact than low outliers (because low outliers are hardcapped at 0 points, while there's no cap on how high of an outlier a game can be), players actually wind up underperforming their average over 50% of the time.But, then again, this is conclusive proof of how amazing the New England defense is.

 

[Fantaholic]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

I don't get where New England got this "we shut down your #1 option" reputation, but it's bordering on ridiculous now. Football Outsiders has them ranked 11th in the league against opposing #1 WRs, 13th against opposing #2s, and 11th against the run. Coles had 2 TDs against them. Gates had 7/77/1. Marshawn Lynch had 80 yards and a score. T.J. Housh had 100 yards and a score. Braylon Edwards caught 6 balls for 110 yards (and Winslow had 49 yards and a score). Terrell Owens had 66 yards and a score. Oh yeah, and you might have heard of this Joseph Addai guy... he had 100 yards rushing and receiving, finishing with 226 total yards and a score. That's 7 different #1 or #1a guys, and they've got 8 TDs between them (as well as 70+ yards on average).New England's defensive reputation is so dramatically out of line with reality this season. Their defense is very good, but it's their offense that makes that team so great.

Coles had Crotchery and TJ.Lynch has uh Evans.

Housh has Palmer/CJ.

Edwards has DA/Winslow.

TO has Romo/Witten.

Addai has Manning/Wayne.

Westbrook has, Reggie Brown?

With McNabb out, the Eagles has NO weapons beyond Westbrook. The corners can play 1 on 1, Brown is awful. LJ Smith is iffy. The QB is a backup.

So we have the entire Pats coaching staff trying to stop Westbrook. No one else even remotely scares them. I'm not sure how you can toss in Browns/Cinci/Colts/Dallas as if they even remotely compare to the McNabb-less Eagles. It's a one trick offense, who will be playing from behind, against the best team in the league.

It's a bad match up, but you still have to start Westbrook. But 90 yards and 0 tds wouldn't be a shock.

The difference is that Westbrook has a history of stud production with no one else to draw attention from him, and New England has no history of being extraordinarily capable of shutting down a team's primary weapon.

Seems like a shut down to me. If it weren't for a gimme 1 yard TD, his numbers would be down right pitiful. Thanks for playing SSOG.

You realize that Westbrook had 92 yards of offense, right? If Brian Westbrook was this "shut down" in every single game for an entire season, he'd finish with 1472 yards and 16 scores.

Nice numbers, but come on SSOG. If you can say that Westbrook was a force tonight then you live in a place we like to call DeNial

 

[BustedKnuckles]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

HUH...WHA...????..........crow taste like crap)

I wouldn't know. Can you shed some light?

15 fantasy points from westy , i can live with that. Feely was the show tonite ,can YOU live with THAT ???Feely ,i would say,was pretty good .

I will gladly eat crow on my Feely comment. He played his #### off tonight. However, my main point in this thread was that the Pats would shut down Westy. They did keep him below his season avergae by 7 points in my league. Considering the lofty numbers that some were predicting, I would say I was correct.

I would`nt pat myself on the back too hard if i were you my friend

 

[SSOG]

Nice numbers, but come on SSOG. If you can say that Westbrook was a force tonight then you live in a place we like to call DeNial

Here's the difference. I never said Westbrook was a force, but you *DID* say that Westbrook was shut down (to the tune of 92 yards and a score). One of us is in DeNial, and it's not me.Quick Edit: I only wish that all of my WRs and RBs were shut down as badly as Westbrook, I'd have put up 100+ points in every league.

 

[Fantaholic]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

HUH...WHA...????..........crow taste like crap)

I wouldn't know. Can you shed some light?

15 fantasy points from westy , i can live with that. Feely was the show tonite ,can YOU live with THAT ???Feely ,i would say,was pretty good .

I will gladly eat crow on my Feely comment. He played his #### off tonight. However, my main point in this thread was that the Pats would shut down Westy. They did keep him below his season avergae by 7 points in my league. Considering the lofty numbers that some were predicting, I would say I was correct.

I would`nt pat myself on the back too hard if i were you my friend

Trust me, I wouldn't expect any credit around here about anything. After all, I am a fan of those devils, the 11-0 Patriots. Sorry guys

 

[Fantaholic]

Nice numbers, but come on SSOG. If you can say that Westbrook was a force tonight then you live in a place we like to call DeNial

Here's the difference. I never said Westbrook was a force, but you *DID* say that Westbrook was shut down (to the tune of 92 yards and a score). One of us is in DeNial, and it's not me.Quick Edit: I only wish that all of my WRs and RBs were shut down as badly as Westbrook, I'd have put up 100+ points in every league.

Bottomline, Westbrook was not nearly the factor in this game that he has been all year. Sorry, it's just the truth.

 

[SSOG]

Nice numbers, but come on SSOG. If you can say that Westbrook was a force tonight then you live in a place we like to call DeNial

Here's the difference. I never said Westbrook was a force, but you *DID* say that Westbrook was shut down (to the tune of 92 yards and a score). One of us is in DeNial, and it's not me.Quick Edit: I only wish that all of my WRs and RBs were shut down as badly as Westbrook, I'd have put up 100+ points in every league.

Bottomline, Westbrook was not nearly the factor in this game that he has been all year. Sorry, it's just the truth.

I agree. He still got 92 yards and a score. If someone was averaging 300 yards and 5 TDs a game, and a team held him to 200 yards and 3 scores, would you say the team shut him down, too?

 

[Fantaholic]

Nice numbers, but come on SSOG. If you can say that Westbrook was a force tonight then you live in a place we like to call DeNial

Here's the difference. I never said Westbrook was a force, but you *DID* say that Westbrook was shut down (to the tune of 92 yards and a score). One of us is in DeNial, and it's not me.Quick Edit: I only wish that all of my WRs and RBs were shut down as badly as Westbrook, I'd have put up 100+ points in every league.

Bottomline, Westbrook was not nearly the factor in this game that he has been all year. Sorry, it's just the truth.

I agree. He still got 92 yards and a score. If someone was averaging 300 yards and 5 TDs a game, and a team held him to 200 yards and 3 scores, would you say the team shut him down, too?

For all intensive purposes the Patriots shut down Westbrook tonight in the sense that they did not allow him to beat them. Shutting down Westbrook doesn't necessarily mean you kept him at 0 yards on the night. But, as they always do, they focus on the guys that they want to "shutdown" and they do a very good job at that. Furthermore let me say this, by no means do I think that the Patriots are a shutdown defense. Actually, I think even with the addition of A. Thomas this unit is not the unit it has been in recent years. Our offense has been our defense for the most part this year. If Brady and the Wr's have an off game, we will lose.

 

[splitvizionz]

For all intensive purposes

intensive purposes? that would be "intents and purposes" lol

 

[hammerd]

I love reading these idiotic posts from before the game, stating how bad Feeley is and how poorly the Eagles would fare in this game.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Nice numbers, but come on SSOG. If you can say that Westbrook was a force tonight then you live in a place we like to call DeNial

Here's the difference. I never said Westbrook was a force, but you *DID* say that Westbrook was shut down (to the tune of 92 yards and a score). One of us is in DeNial, and it's not me.Quick Edit: I only wish that all of my WRs and RBs were shut down as badly as Westbrook, I'd have put up 100+ points in every league.

Bottomline, Westbrook was not nearly the factor in this game that he has been all year. Sorry, it's just the truth.

In my opinion it was the eagles that took westy out of the game plan as A.J was just flinging the ball down the field all night rendering westy usless...they stopped running and passing the ball to him, yet westbrook was moving it when givin` the chance.

 

[twitch]

Nice numbers, but come on SSOG. If you can say that Westbrook was a force tonight then you live in a place we like to call DeNial

Here's the difference. I never said Westbrook was a force, but you *DID* say that Westbrook was shut down (to the tune of 92 yards and a score). One of us is in DeNial, and it's not me.Quick Edit: I only wish that all of my WRs and RBs were shut down as badly as Westbrook, I'd have put up 100+ points in every league.

Bottomline, Westbrook was not nearly the factor in this game that he has been all year. Sorry, it's just the truth.

In my opinion it was the eagles that took westy out of the game plan as A.J was just flinging the ball down the field all night rendering westy usless...they stopped running and passing the ball to him, yet westbrook was moving it when givin` the chance.

Tough to back that take. Westbrook is averaging about 25 touches a game this year. Last night he had 24. He'd been averaging about 152 yds a game prior to last night when he had 92yds. So the touches were there. The yards werent. Westbrook was NE's #1 focus throughout the game. He averaged about 3.1/carry and less than 6 per catch. That's not really 'moving it'. Should they have kept feeding him the ball? I wish they would have considering he was about the only guy NE had success controlling. Im not going to give Philly credit for something NE did. That said, Philly did a great job executing the other parts of their O even though Westbrook was held relatively in check. But on the fantasy take that's been debated, I see no glaringly wrong answers other than those suggesting you need to bench Westbrook. You really never bench Westbrook unless he's got an extremely limiting injury he's struggling to play with. But some guys were worried about NE holding him down a little, and they were right. He didnt suck, but he didnt put up his usual #s. His 90plus yds and a TD is always good production from any player. Its just not the 150 and sometimes multiple scores that Westbrook owners sometimes enjoy. So this was a pretty interesting debate that ended up somewhere in the middle as I saw it. Big-time credit to Philly. They played a great game and woulda, coulda, shoulda won that game. But thank god they didnt.

 

[-OZ-]

Nice numbers, but come on SSOG. If you can say that Westbrook was a force tonight then you live in a place we like to call DeNial

Here's the difference. I never said Westbrook was a force, but you *DID* say that Westbrook was shut down (to the tune of 92 yards and a score). One of us is in DeNial, and it's not me.Quick Edit: I only wish that all of my WRs and RBs were shut down as badly as Westbrook, I'd have put up 100+ points in every league.

Bottomline, Westbrook was not nearly the factor in this game that he has been all year. Sorry, it's just the truth.

In my opinion it was the eagles that took westy out of the game plan as A.J was just flinging the ball down the field all night rendering westy usless...they stopped running and passing the ball to him, yet westbrook was moving it when givin` the chance.

He was most certainly a key factor. It wasn't that the Eagles took him out of the game, it's that the D (mostly) successfully concentrated on Westbrook, which allowed the WRs to get some separation and they capitalized on it. Sometimes the most value a player adds to a team is forcing the opponent to concentrate on them, allowing others the opportunity to make plays.Westbrook was still the #11 RB in my leagues this week, I suppose that means he was held down a little, but I'll take it.

 

[Ed Wood]

For all intensive purposes

intensive purposes? that would be "intents and purposes" lol

You CAN learn things in the shark pool.

 

[Fantaholic]

For all intensive purposes

intensive purposes? that would be "intents and purposes" lol

You CAN learn things in the shark pool.

My bad. All those years of schoooling and never picked up on that one.Oh well, #### one up for the haters. I mean chalk.

 

[KingEl]

The Eagles would have been alot better on that last drive by dumping it off to Westbrook for his 6yds per catch, than flinging it into the endzone for grabs. They should have given it to Westbrook and see what he could do. Worst case, FG to tie.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Westbrook has knee contusion

Brian Westbrook, RB PHI

News: Eagles coach Andy Reid said Monday that RB Brian Westbrook suffered a knee contusion in the team's Week 12 loss at New England. "It's pretty sore today, but we'll see how he does in the next few days," Reid said.

Analysis: Westbrook should be fine. Against the Patriots, he ran 17 times for 52 yards and caught seven passes for 40. He also scored on a one-yard run in the first quarter, leaping over a line of Patriots defenders and into the end zone. He remains one of the best running backs in Fantasy, a week-in, week-out play, and a must-start Week 13 against the Seahawks assuming his knee doesn't hold him back.

 

[Gopher State]

See last years stats when McNafro was out. Westbrook gets an upgrade.

It would be nice if it were that simple, but you have to consider the opponent here. The Patriots will shut down your number 1, 2 and sometimes 3rd option depending on talent level. If McNabb is indeed out. Then you can kiss Westbrook's stats goodbye. I don't even think you can count on the garbage stats towards the end, because of how bad Feely is.

I don't get where New England got this "we shut down your #1 option" reputation, but it's bordering on ridiculous now. Football Outsiders has them ranked 11th in the league against opposing #1 WRs, 13th against opposing #2s, and 11th against the run. Coles had 2 TDs against them. Gates had 7/77/1. Marshawn Lynch had 80 yards and a score. T.J. Housh had 100 yards and a score. Braylon Edwards caught 6 balls for 110 yards (and Winslow had 49 yards and a score). Terrell Owens had 66 yards and a score. Oh yeah, and you might have heard of this Joseph Addai guy... he had 100 yards rushing and receiving, finishing with 226 total yards and a score. That's 7 different #1 or #1a guys, and they've got 8 TDs between them (as well as 70+ yards on average).New England's defensive reputation is so dramatically out of line with reality this season. Their defense is very good, but it's their offense that makes that team so great.

Coles had Crotchery and TJ.Lynch has uh Evans.

Housh has Palmer/CJ.

Edwards has DA/Winslow.

TO has Romo/Witten.

Addai has Manning/Wayne.

Westbrook has, Reggie Brown?

With McNabb out, the Eagles has NO weapons beyond Westbrook. The corners can play 1 on 1, Brown is awful. LJ Smith is iffy. The QB is a backup.

So we have the entire Pats coaching staff trying to stop Westbrook. No one else even remotely scares them. I'm not sure how you can toss in Browns/Cinci/Colts/Dallas as if they even remotely compare to the McNabb-less Eagles. It's a one trick offense, who will be playing from behind, against the best team in the league.

It's a bad match up, but you still have to start Westbrook. But 90 yards and 0 tds wouldn't be a shock.

The difference is that Westbrook has a history of stud production with no one else to draw attention from him, and New England has no history of being extraordinarily capable of shutting down a team's primary weapon.

Seems like a shut down to me. If it weren't for a gimme 1 yard TD, his numbers would be down right pitiful. Thanks for playing SSOG.

If people think Westbrook was shut down, what about these RB's that Westy outscored in week 12?LT

Addai

McGahee

Portis

Bush

James

Maybe these guys get a free pass because they didn't play NE?

 

[j3r3m3y]

Nice numbers, but come on SSOG. If you can say that Westbrook was a force tonight then you live in a place we like to call DeNial

Here's the difference. I never said Westbrook was a force, but you *DID* say that Westbrook was shut down (to the tune of 92 yards and a score). One of us is in DeNial, and it's not me.Quick Edit: I only wish that all of my WRs and RBs were shut down as badly as Westbrook, I'd have put up 100+ points in every league.

Bottomline, Westbrook was not nearly the factor in this game that he has been all year. Sorry, it's just the truth.

That is fair. But he was not "shut down" either.