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What a Ted Cruz victory would mean (1 Viewer)
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cstu
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SaintsInDome2006
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jamny
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I don't think it's weird, it's BS planned to appeal to that crowd. He probably doesn't like any music but chose a demographic.
Sand
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You guys are hysterical. The Tea Party is first and foremost about spending restraint. There are always odd folks attracted to movements like this, but the media has turned the caricature setting to 10 when it comes to this. I don't agree with a lot of what comes out there, but Nazis, really?fixed.
I've always respected steadfast conservatives - it must be terribly frustrating to be one these days.
And if actions count you can just look at the difference in behavior of the Tea Party rallies and the Occupy movement. Pretty stark difference.
Ted Cruz doesn't like rock music because he didn't like how rock music responded to 9/11
TobiasFunke
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SaintsInDome2006
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The substance of what he said there aside, if he's actually going to run for president, someone in his campaign needs to be the Stephen Jones and put their hand over his mouth before he says stuff like that. Most candidates try to be relatable, not this guy apparently. Can't wait to see what's next.
TobiasFunke
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I dunno. "Obamacare is the worst thing since slavery" and "being gay is a choice because sometimes people in prison have gay sex" seem like solid well-reasoned mainstream perspectives to me.
TobiasFunke
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I think my favorite Ben Carson fact is that they had to remove him as a graduation speaker at his alma mater, Johns Hopkins Medical School due to pushback from students and graduates. We're not talking about undergrads at Oberlin here. These are doctors and doctors-to-be, almost all of them already wealthy or soon to be wealthy, in a profession that leads hard to the right, who are embarrassed to be associated with him.
whoknew
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Do you think that means he liked Alan Jackson's Where Were You (When the World Stopped Turning)?
Because that should automatically exclude him from being elected to any office - much less the highest office.
Because that should automatically exclude him from being elected to any office - much less the highest office.
CBusAlex
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General Malaise
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Sounds like he's playing to his constituents who love jesus, murica and country music (sans Dixie Chicks, of course).
3C's
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but it's actually comical to me how dense you can be.
timschochet
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I like the Dixie Chicks.
Fennis
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I can relate. Since 9/11 my favorite lunch meat is turkey. I didn't like how the bologna industry responded to 9/11.
General Malaise
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Me too!
But, the minute they spoke out against Bush, they lost I'm guessing 99.9% of the people that are going to support Cruzie.
Jack White
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Guys, Ted Cruz is a liar and a socialist and his feet stink.
If you're OK voting for that, knock yourselves out.
If you're OK voting for that, knock yourselves out.
Joe Summer
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My baloney has a first name, it's "O-S-A-M-A".
B-Deep
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I've heard it turned some people gay
thus proving gay is a choice, though in a strange twist it turns out to be a patriotic choice....
Aerial Assault
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Yup, that's what I immediately assumed. He may not have gotten the memo that he needs to broaden the old "appeal" a bit beyond that constituency in order to, you know, win. Yet another example of a superficially smart person proving to be spectacularly dumb. Of course, he accomplishes that feat with nearly every public statement.
General Malaise
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Wait, what's all this now about Cruz's father wants atheists rounded up in camps?
Henry Ford
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Fennis
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His dad is a less lovable, beer-less Billy Carter:
Obama Should Go "Back to Kenya"
In the last four years, Rafael Cruz has suggested gay marriage is a government conspiracy, that Obama is pro-murder and resembles Fidel Castro, and that the American media is serving as a "ministry of information" attempting to damage the country,
3C's
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Aerial Assault
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Apple Jack
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Todd Andrews
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Terd Cruz
Mr. Pickles
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Great start.
NREC34
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-fish-
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Lutherman2112
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joffer
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yes. I can barely sleep.
SaintsInDome2006
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This is going to be a Mutt & Jeff campaign season; GOP on the right with 15 candidates claiming they didn't arrive in the clown car, and Hillary by herself cracking jokes about destroying public documents and pocketing cash while not taking questions. This'll be a hoot.
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I know next to nothing about the guy, but I find the fact that folks are zeroing in on this to be somewhat disturbing.
BigSteelThrill
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Todd Andrews
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pantagrapher
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What probably scares a lot of GOP voters about Ted Cruz isn't his actual stance on issues. I think he's pretty much a mainstream republican when it comes to their signature stuff: cut taxes, repeal Obamacare, get some military action going, gut regulations, social services, etc. What scares them is the clumsy, scorched-earth way he goes about getting what he wants. The debate about him should really be: will his way of legislating be effective as POTUS? And if it is, what does that say about where this country is headed?
SaintsInDome2006
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I believe that "other stuff" matters. It mattered with Bill Clinton, it mattered with Bush, it has mattered with Obama, it will matter with the next president, because who the person is will affect how they govern.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Get to know your president. Does Obama's affinity for Jay-Z and Beyonce mean that he relates to their lyrics or approves of their words or actions? No. - I don't even know if Cruz's comment makes sense politically. Above it's mentioned that he's just aiming for his base, well that's just dandy, that won't help him get much further. He could have just said he liked country music because he enjoys the patriotic themes, but no he had to drag the 9/11/01 attacks into it and at the same time say rock is/was not patriotic. I will add that I think the politicization of everyone and everything in this country is a major problem (on the right and left), a new one, I think that's warped and dangerous, and I'd like to see us move away from it not towards it.
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TobiasFunke
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Folks are zeroing in on it to laugh at it. It's a ridiculous thing to say. They're not zeroing in on it because it suggests he'd be a terrible president. There's literally hundreds of other things that give a much stronger indication that he'd be a terrible president.
