What are the chances Vick Misses 1-4 games next year? (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

I said last night in the email update I was starting to get really worried this dog fighting thing was going to cost Vick.

What's your guess on him recieiving a 1 to 4 game suspension for this?

J

 

[Cowboys#1]

about a 100% he gets suspended for some games.. 40% for more than 4 and 15% for the season.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Depends on how fast our govenment gets their investigation done. I voted 50% for this year, however I would go closer to 75% for next year.

 

[H.K.]

I vote no suspension.

However, Goodell should put Vick in a ring with one of the dogs he trained and see how he likes getting chewed to bits.

I love watching Vick play, but as someone who loves dogs, it really makes me hate the guy.

 

[KING]

Depends on how fast our govenment gets their investigation done. I voted 50% for this year, however I would go closer to 75% for next year.

thats what i was thinking. the feds are probably looking more at the gambling/ racketeering aspects, which will take time. they are slow at investigating anyways. didn't the jamal lewis matter take 2 or 3 years?

 

[GreenNGold]

I would actually be surprised if he is only suspended for 4 games. Whether it is this season or next season though, depends on how fast the investigation goes.

 

[JaxBill]

FWIW, PFT is now reporting that Vick sold his house in one day at half the market value. It sure seems like he's trying to distance himslef in a hurry (but still too late).

 

[perry147]

FWIW, PFT is now reporting that Vick sold his house in one day at half the market value. It sure seems like he's trying to distance himslef in a hurry (but still too late).

I saw that also but how does selling the house help him?Did Blank's little conference with him make him see the light?

 

[KING]

it just makes him look even more guilty. like he's getting rid of evidence.

 

[Mark Wimer]

Joe,

I'm at 70% on the 1-4 games suspension this year. If the question had been phrased "at least 1" I would be a 90% guy.

The furor over this dog fighting/gambling ring/fighting dog breeding operation is only going to get worse, not better, IMO. Whether or not Vick actually gets charged, the damage is already done.

 

[zadok]

So far, 86% think it is at least a 50/50 probability...

 

[KING]

oh yeah, it's a total PR nightmare. i can see peta maniacs trying to boycotti games, throwing dog bones at vick. vick is signed to more money than god. 130 million contract with nearly 40 mil signing bonous.

they can't cut him. try to suspend him, and the nflpa will be all over them. only they they can do is try some damage control, and wait for the case to play out.

 

[perry147]

Side Question:

Which is worse illegal gambling or the dog fighting from an NFL standpoint?

 

[Jiggyonthehut]

I havent been keeping up with this issue. Has he formally been charged/arrested yet?

 

[videoguy505]

This should be phrased as "at least 1-4 games", I think it's possible it could go 6-8 or higher.

 

[KING]

Side Question:Which is worse illegal gambling or the dog fighting from an NFL standpoint?

gambling without a doubtwhat you could ask is; which is worse. gambling or killing someone? where's ray lewis, and where is art schlichter?

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Side Question:Which is worse illegal gambling or the dog fighting from an NFL standpoint?

The NFL's greatest fear is a player getting caught betting on an NFL game, let alone a game that player has played in. But if its just gambling (none nfl) I would hope they are real pissy about the dog fighting.

 

[Raider Nation]

What's your guess on him recieiving a 1 to 4 game suspension for this?

You pay me $20.95 and I'll let you know...

 

[BigRed]

Flip a coin. He could get nothing, he could get a few games....I'd be amazed if it's much more than that though, even if his involvement or even knowledge of it is proven.

 

[Raider Nation]

Flip a coin. He could get nothing, he could get a few games....I'd be amazed if it's much more than that though, even if his involvement or even knowledge of it is proven.

Amazed? With the "Roger the hangin' judge" now in command?The Tagliabue Country Club has closed.

 

[Joe Bryant]

What's your guess on him recieiving a 1 to 4 game suspension for this?

You pay me $20.95 and I'll let you know...

Hi RN,Here's what I wrote last night about it in the Email Update sent to all the Subscribers.

ATL - SI.com Reports Sources Say Vick Knew About Dog Fighting

Source: Don Banks, SI.com

According to Sports Illustrated's Don Banks, SI.com talked to multiple sources who have known Vick well for years, and they say his troubling pattern of recent behavior reflects a penchant for questionable judgment, an unwillingness to distance himself from the wrong crowd, and a long-standing belief that the rules don't apply to him.

While the sources spoke on the condition that their names not be used due to their relationship with Vick, two of them said they were convinced the quarterback has been involved with the illegal dog-fighting ring that authorities believe they discovered last month while conducting a drug raid on a house Vick owns in Smithfield, Va. Authorities found nearly 70 dogs and various items associated with dog fighting. Vick has maintained that a cousin lives at the house and that he was unaware pit bulls were being kept on the premises.

"He knows what's going on in that house in Virginia,'' one source said. "There's not a doubt in my mind he's involved with it.'' The other source cited Vick's longtime "affinity'' for the dog-fighting subculture, and expressed certainty that Vick was aware of what was happening at the house.

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There have been reports that owner Arthur Blank is "in denial" and that Vick will receive special treatment. Blank adamantly denies that.

"There's no coddling going on here,'' Blank said. "Whatever is 180 degrees from that, that's the reality. The [financial] investment we've made in him has nothing to do with the way we treat him. When Michael has done something wrong that has been documented, we've had very direct conversations with him. We don't have all the facts of the [dog fighting] investigation, but obviously the story's not developing well. Which is one of the reasons why I asked the commissioner to speak to Michael about the situation and to be as stern as he felt he needed to be.''

We are in a new day and age with Commissioner Roger Goodell and player discipline. We don't have much of a track record to go on but what we have shows him to be more than willing to hand down harsh penalties. If Vick is found to be involved in the dog fighting, it's absolutely conceivable that he would face discipline from the league.

Here's how it looks to me on May 10th. My gut feel is that it's not going to be difficult to pin Michael Vick to the dog fighting. It's an undgerground type activity but it's not that secretive. There are plenty of people involved in it and when push comes to shove, I don't think it's going to be very difficult to produce viable evidence that Vick was aware of what was going on.

If that happens, the league suddenly has a pretty ugly public relations issue on it's hand. Animal Cruelty is serious business and for many people, is a more serious issue than some of the issues guys like Adam Jones and Chris Henry have been penalized for. I'm not saying run out and trade Mike Vick from your Dynasty team for Jeff Garcia but I'm starting to get more than worried. If you made me put a gut feel guess on it right now (and understand it's just a gut feel guess) I'd say there's a 50% chance that Vick misses from one to four games due to this.

 

[perry147]

Side Question:Which is worse illegal gambling or the dog fighting from an NFL standpoint?

The NFL's greatest fear is a player getting caught betting on an NFL game, let alone a game that player has played in. But if its just gambling (none nfl) I would hope they are real pissy about the dog fighting.

But if it is illegal gambling like running an illegal gambling house. I really think gambling is the big one.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Side Question:Which is worse illegal gambling or the dog fighting from an NFL standpoint?

The NFL's greatest fear is a player getting caught betting on an NFL game, let alone a game that player has played in. But if its just gambling (none nfl) I would hope they are real pissy about the dog fighting.

But if it is illegal gambling like running an illegal gambling house. I really think gambling is the big one.

Agreed, find me a gambling house that doesn't take bets on NFL games. So if it was truly a "gambling house" then bets were made on the NFL and thus the NFL will go bonkers.

 

[BigRed]

Flip a coin. He could get nothing, he could get a few games....I'd be amazed if it's much more than that though, even if his involvement or even knowledge of it is proven.

Amazed? With the "Roger the hangin' judge" now in command?The Tagliabue Country Club has closed.

So what do you think the punishment will and/or should be?

 

[chris1969]

I'll take the over