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What did we learn week 1 (1 Viewer)

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So much for waiting to see what Cam can do as the season progresses to possibly start in the second half. If has a good game next week, he's startable week 3.

I liked that AJ Green and Julio Jones had an impact week 1

Beanie might be the real deal.

Pittsburgh suffering from the SB hangover?

Kerry Collins is old.

McNabb is older.

Why did I drop Tolbert in the subscriber contest?

What did you learn?

 
The Colts may be in for a 4 win season. This team is Manning's team.

The Packers are the best team in the NFC.

The Ravens may be the class of the AFC.

 
So go post in those threads, buzzkill.I learned that hype trains suck. Why did I start Kendrick's over Jimmy Graham? I kept saying it all week, teams have a ton of tape on Kendrick's and are going to key on him.

I also learned that Ray Rice is really good.
Stop being lazy and make AT LEAST a quick scan of the first page (where you'd have seen two threads).You're better than that.

 
I have learned a lot can change a team even when it is not player-directly. I expected what I got out of the colts but I am amazed that the Chiefs have regressed this far, this fast. Weiss is missed.

 
The Chiefs may be worse than we thought in pre-season (esp now with Berry out)

Cam Newton is more accurate than the talking heads gave him credit for BUT also the AZ Cardinals pass defense is really terrible

Not sure the defensive players the Bills added will continue to have a huge impact - they were good Sunday but were playing the Chiefs

People who played TE roulette in FBGPC/FFPC type TE heavy scoring leagues are going to have some terrible Monday morning headaches (even if they were right on the players you can't guess right every weekend)

Tony Romo has the talent - no so much the decision making ability

Dez Bryant can be an elite WR - assuming he can control his emotions

Hass can still throw which means as long as he is on the field, Kenny Britt is a pretty good playmaker (now can he do it with double teams and backside help?)

 
I have learned a lot can change a team even when it is not player-directly. I expected what I got out of the colts but I am amazed that the Chiefs have regressed this far, this fast. Weiss is missed.
anybody that REALLY watched KC last year.... :hey: ......could/should have seen that what was going on was a product of an incredibly easy schedule.....the stats for all players were inflated.....those that didn't watch from a realistic viewpoint got sucked in thinking this was an up and coming team with some explosive players (Charles/Bowe)....and many of them were chasing those stats in their drafts this year.....I am as diehard as they get, but I looked at the schedule and had them penciled in for maybe 6 wins.....and that was before losing Moeki and Berry....and that was counting the BUF game as a win....it ain't good in KC....not liking the vibe I get.....when the first round pick Baldwin thinks it's okay to get in a fight with TJ.....chit just ain't right....redraft=sell for whatever you can get for these guys....including Charles....you may still be able to get some value since he got that receiving TD...
 
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The Colts may be in for a 4 win season. This team is Manning's team.

The Packers are the best team in the NFC.

The Ravens may be the class of the AFC.
I haven't learned this.........yet.
:lmao: Well, they just beat the second best team in the NFC last Thursday. :shrug:
And if Drew Brees options instead of handing off to Ingram the Packers are 0-1. I say it's a tie still between the Saints and Green Bay. In other words I learned that the best team in the NFC is yet to be determined.
 
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I feel like a genius for not benching Flacco and especially Rice.

Mc Nabb is awful and will sink an entire team around him.

Phillip Rivers didn't look so great

I might have to start trusting Ryan Fitzpatrick

I am an idiot for benching Tolbert for Jacobs.

My Giants are in for a long season I think....

 
The Colts may be in for a 4 win season. This team is Manning's team.

The Packers are the best team in the NFC.

The Ravens may be the class of the AFC.
I haven't learned this.........yet.
:lmao: Well, they just beat the second best team in the NFC last Thursday. :shrug:
And if Drew Brees options instead of handing off to Ingram the Packers are 0-1. I say it's a tie still between the Saints and Green Bay. In other words I learned that the best team in the NFC is yet to be determined.
Even if the did make it, they still needed a two-point conversion (50-50 shot) and win the coin flip so they could score first (again a 50-50 shot). So they were still a dog to lose that game even if successful on that play.
 
Colt McCoy is not the answer.

Joseph Addai is not dead yet even if his offense is.

Jordy Nelson only played 27 snaps even though it seemed like he was all over the field.

That it might be time to cash out on Frank Gore in dynasty leagues if you can.

That no OTA's, fewer padded practices and the overall emphasis on keeping players healthy really makes for some HORRIBLE sequences on the football field. Perhaps it was just me, but there were some really bad games yesterday.

There will be a hilarious segment on the FOX pregame show next week poking fun at Bradshaw's comments about how horrible Cam Newton is.

In 3 years, it will be clear that Randall Cobb was in fact the best rookie in this draft class.

The Chargers won't miss Sproles quite as bad as I thought they would.

We're sad to say it, but we believe Fred Davis might be replacing Chris Cooley for good.

 
-Peyton Hillis will sink a lot of fantasy teams this year.

-Eli Manning is a very mediocre NFL QB, at best

-Matt Ryan and Tony Romo both always seem to shrink when they face a big test. Paper tigers.

-The Seahawks will not win a game this season

 
No one can touch Steve Smith when he is pissed off. last time he played like this, he was coming off a two game suspension for rearranging a teammate's face...again.

 
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The Colts may be in for a 4 win season. This team is Manning's team.

The Packers are the best team in the NFC.

The Ravens may be the class of the AFC.
I haven't learned this.........yet.
:lmao: Well, they just beat the second best team in the NFC last Thursday. :shrug:
And if Drew Brees options instead of handing off to Ingram the Packers are 0-1. I say it's a tie still between the Saints and Green Bay. In other words I learned that the best team in the NFC is yet to be determined.
No way. They'd have still needed a 2pt just to tie.
 
Julio Jones is going to take quite a few passes to the house this year. Expect the Falcons to find ways to get the ball in his hands anyway possible -- and soon. His acceleration is incredible -- he's going to make some DBs look silly this year

Would be stunned if he didn't put up top 20 s this year if he's healthy

 
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Thinking through the divisions....

AFC East

Jets are going to lack an identity this year, but they're still going to win 10 games and be a tough out in the playoffs. Not sure if this team wants to pass or run, but the D/ST is going to be really good and that's all that matters. The D forced two key turnovers and (minus the pick-"six" be Lee) only let up 17 points to what looks to be an explosive Dallas offense. The Bills were too good against KC to be ignored, but a brutal division might prevent the Bills from having a winning record. With home games against Oakland and NE up next, Buffalo's week 3 game could be the most anticipated home game in recent Buffalo history. Fitzpatrick, Jackson and Johnson aren't the Triplets, but they're pretty darn good. [Mia/NE to come.]

AFC North

Pittsburgh ran into a buzzsaw in Baltimore, but they're going to be fine. Roethlisberger had one of his worst games as a pro (10.8 ESPN QBR) but he's earned a mulligan or two. OTOH, Baltimore looked fantastic. This team was a legit SB contender last year, and little has changed. Wouldn't surprise me to see the same four teams end up in the AFC's final four again this year. It's easy to like McCoy and Hillis, but Cleveland had an ugly offensive performance. Ignoring their end of half drive, the Browns gained fewer than 15 yards on 9 of their 13 drives. I still think the Browns have a solid year, but they're not in any position to start giving away wins. The Bengals should enjoy that win, because they won't have many this season.

AFC South

Colts are irrelevant. Texans looked as good as you can look, and had a little bit of that Baltimore spirit in them yesterday. As much as Pittsburgh has been a thorn in Baltimore's side (Flacco 0-6 against Ben), it's been arguably worse with Hou/Indy. With the Colts down, the Texans stepped on the gas and never looked back. Offense is going to be awesome, again, but way too early to get a sense on the defense. The good news? It won't matter, as this division should be locked up before the calendar hits December. The Jags will come in 2nd place, but will get swept by the Texans on Nov. 27th, wrapping up the division for Houston. McCown was solid, but I suspect the Jags turn to Gabbert at some point. Jacksonville's D looked impressive, but it was Tennessee's O that was really ugly. Minus Britt's fluky 80-yard score, and Hasselbeck and the offense looked terrible. After their first 7 drives, the Titans had 0 points and 79 yards. Tennessee will be interesting when they switch to Locker, but they look like a 5-11 team.

AFC West

San Diego should win this division going away, but they struggled for awhile with the Vikings. Still, struggling and winning late in September games is an improvement for this team, and an 11 or 12 win season (or more) is always within reach. No one should doubt their offense, and the pass defense was phenomenal, so who knows what the limit is for the Chargers. The Chiefs look like toast. Losing Berry is a huge disaster, and like the situation with Indy, I have no faith in the HC to steer the ship once it's routed off course. Without Meoki, and Cassel forced to play against tough defenses, this could get ugly. 0-3 seems assured (@DET, @SDG) before the schedule lightens up. Still, this team is going nowhere fast. [Oak/Den to come.]

NFC East

Eagles look legit, and the secondary will look better once it has some time to jell. Vick didn't look great, but that offense is so explosive that it can handle some ugly passes. A great D might stop him the way the old Bucs could, but the Eagles will boat race some teams this year ala the MNF against Washington last year. Dallas' O will be fantastic if they can keep Romo upright, while Rob Ryan has changed the complexion of the D. Injuries are already a concern in the secondary, but this team will compete for a playoff berth if they can stay relatively healthy. Bryant, Austin, Witten and Romo are as good a passing quartet as any in football and Ware is a manchild. Rex Grossman might actually be good (three 300 yard passing games in last four outings) but the Redskins shocked Dallas and won @ Philly in the first four weeks of last season, too. An 8-8 season is within reach, but don't buy the hype just yet. Meanwhile, Eli and the Giants are in for trouble. Manning probably has a monster year statistically, and gets the NFC West in three of his next four games to right the ship. If the Giants aren't 4-2 headed into the bye week, they're in trouble, with second-half games in New England, New Orleans, Dallas and having to play the Jets and Packers, too.

NFC North

Chicago is still in for a rough season; don't be fooled by a game that was nowhere near as impressive as the final score indicated. Atlanta isn't that good and the Bears had a lot of fluky plays (two long screen passes for TDs, recovered all five fumbles). The offensive line is still an issue, and the offense is still going to finish in the bottom half of the league. They'll finish third in the division, as the Lions look legit. The D was fantastic against Tampa and will be even better once Fairley joins the team. The O looks great, and while keeping Stafford healthy has been a struggle, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Detroit has its best season in years, not only making the playoffs, but doing so as the #5 seed, and earning a de facto bye into the second round. Where they'll put up a valiant effort but fall to... the Packers, who are already in Super Bowl form, although that pass D looked very suspect against NO. Still, until proven otherwise, the Packers aren't going to lose more than a handful of games. Green Bay 12-4, Detroit 10-6, Chicago 8-8, and then... ugh. If you're going to look terrible against the Chargers and not win, you're not doing it right. This will be Ponder's team soon, but Peterson's team won't fare any better than CJ2K's team in 2011.

NFC South

The Saints are going to be an elite team -- they'll probably get the other bye, although it might come down to random tiebreakers with the Eagles. The Falcons and Bucs are in for tougher times than their fanbases hoped, but the schedule isn't easy anymore. Atlanta was the most overrated team in football last season and their luck seems to have swung in the other direction. An 8-8 team, IMO. Tampa will probably hit their stride late, and I still love all the young talent on offense -- they will battle for a playoff berth, and I suspect the winner of DAL@TAM in week 15 will determine the conference's 6 seed. Cam and the Panthers will be exciting to watch, but the biggest takeaway from that game is the horrific Cardinals pass defense. Still, Newton will have a much bigger rookie year than many expected, and the Panthers show improvement by going 6-10.

NFC West

Cue JR -- my God the carnage. The Seahawks were one of the worst teams in football last year and didn't look any better in week 1. The '10 Seahawks were one of only 10 teams the last 30 years to lose 9 games by 14 points or more, and were back on the wagon in week 1. San Francisco is in for an ugly season and will look bad on both sides of the ball against the good teams. Without Crabtree or a legitimate QB, the O isn't going anywhere, and the D lost too much this off-season to carry a team. Arizona's pass D is horrendous looking, and Kolb is just good enough to make sure opposing QBs keep being forced to throw. Start every QB you can against them, but the Cards win this division at 7-9, before Kolb gets eaten alive as part of a Suh-Fairley oreo inside the Big Toaster. St. Louis still has a ways to go on both sides of the ball, and think you see some serious regression to their solid pass D numbers from 2010. Bradford is a long ways away from carrying a team to the playoffs, and the Rams just don't have the talent around him. Without the strong performance by the pass D repeating itself, don't expect the Rams to win more than 6 games this year.

 
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I learned that no matter how many years you played this game and no matter how much time you spend getting ready for your drafts that after week 1 you feel like you know nothing.

 
NFC North

Chicago is still in for a rough season; don't be fooled by a game that was nowhere near as impressive as the final score indicated. Atlanta isn't that good and the Bears had a lot of fluky plays (two long screen passes for TDs, recovered all five fumbles). The offensive line is still an issue, and the offense is still going to finish in the bottom half of the league.
C'mon Chase, you're better than the old "If it weren't for a few big plays..." logic. And your comment about Atlanta not being that good - they were the #1 seed in the NFC last year, and they've added this new WR - you may have heard of him - Julio Jones? Atlanta was favored by 3 as a ROAD team. In terms of the Bears and turnovers - NEWS FLASH! That's what they do - their defense has been trained that way since Lovie Smith arrived. Those are not flukes - they are a function of the way the defense operates.

And we could also play the "fluky plays" card the other way. If you watched the game, you also know that Cutler was rolling right on a 3rd and goal play while the TE drifted out the the left - Cutler missed him on a pass he could have lobbed to him - there were literally 3 people on that half of the field - and the other two were Bears O-lineman looking to block any Falcon. Hester also tripped as he shot through a hole into what would have been wide open green to the endzone for yet another highlight return. The score could have been worse than 30-12 - and that 12, while including a Falcon TD, did NOT include an offensive TD.

While I agree that there are still unanswered questions on the Bears O-line, their defense will win them more than their fair share of games. Their defense and special teams are just as good if not better than what they had last year...when they won the division - remember?

To keep in line with the thread:

- Baltimore is better than the Steelers.

- Minnesota IS bad.

- People that picked CJ, Charles, Ingram or Blount early at RB won't be happy.

- People that picked Wells, F. Jackson or Tate will be.

- Indy receivers not named "Wayne" are in for a long year.

- Donald Brown needs an injury to be relevant...again - but this time to 2 RBs ahead of him.

- The two best teams in the NFC might be in the same division...and it's NOT the NFC South, East or West.

- You CAN throw the ball against the Jets...just not directly into CB hands.

- The Texans are finally ready to live up to the hype.

 
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I learned the same thing I learn every year. Garbage time is a cruel mistress. There are so many insignificant plays late in games that will make or break a week in fantasy football. It generally evened out for me yesterday, but it's always amazing to see the points start to roll in around 4:00 and 7:15.

 
NFC NorthChicago is still in for a rough season; don't be fooled by a game that was nowhere near as impressive as the final score indicated. Atlanta isn't that good and the Bears had a lot of fluky plays (two long screen passes for TDs, recovered all five fumbles). The offensive line is still an issue, and the offense is still going to finish in the bottom half of the league.
C'mon Chase, you're better than the old "If it weren't for a few big plays..." logic. And your comment about Atlanta not being that good - they were the #1 seed in the NFC last year, and they've added this new WR - you may have heard of him - Julio Jones? Atlanta was favored by 3 as a ROAD team. In terms of the Bears and turnovers - NEWS FLASH! That's what they do - their defense has been trained that way since Lovie Smith arrived. Those are not flukes - they are a function of the way the defense operates. And we could also play the "fluky plays" card the other way. If you watched the game, you also know that Cutler was rolling right on a 3rd and goal play while the TE drifted out the the left - Cutler missed him on a pass he could have lobbed to him - there were literally 3 people on that half of the field - and the other two were Bears O-lineman looking to block any Falcon. Hester also tripped as he shot through a hole into what would have been wide open green to the endzone for yet another highlight return. The score could have been worse than 30-12 - and that 12, while including a Falcon TD, did NOT include an offensive TD.While I agree that there are still unanswered questions on the Bears O-line, their defense will win them more than their fair share of games. Their defense and special teams are just as good if not better than what they had last year...when they won the division - remember?
Atlanta's an 8-8 team this year; not impressed by beating them. Bears recovered 5 of 5 fumbles yesterday -- how likely do you think that is to happen again?The OL is still garbage. If you want to tell me that Hester and Forte are going to run 50+ yard screen passes for scores (or to the 1, in Hester's case), fine, but I'm not buying. The D looks good again, which is why I would say they still finish in the playoff hunt. But 8-8/9-7 is the likely outcome here. This team was in that range last year (think of the Calvin Johnson game, and they needed 4th quarter comebacks to beat GB, Buf and Det (the other game), won the shootout with the Jets, etc.) but got a few breaks along the way. This team ranked 30th in yards last season, and exchanging Olsen for Roy Williams and Marion Barber won't cut it. I'd be surprised if Cutler doesn't miss some time with injury this year, so unless that OL improves in a hurry, I still think the Bears are going to be disappointing to fans expecting another NFC Championship appearance. Great game for Bears fans yesterday, but I think we look back in 4 months and that was the high point of the season. Just my :2cents:
 
I learned that Peyton Manning probably won't play again this year. Watching opposing offenses march back and forth across the field like that can't be good for his neck.

 
i've learned to try to steal from guys who think they learned something big in week 1.

Last year, you would have learned that Dwayne Bowe wasn't worth much from weeks 1 to 3

 
There are a LOT more bad (or flatly mediocre) teams in the NFL this season then is typical.

Expect a continued flux of up-and-downs throughout the season amongst a majority of teams and fantasy players.

 
Things I learned this week:

The Bears D is still legit. I'm a Bears fan and many aspects of this team concern me, but I think the D is still good enough to keep CHI in the playoff mix all year.

Britt is a beast (I already knew this, but Week 1 reinforced this).

The Saints running game is more of a committee than this Ingram owner wants to admit. I'm still hoping that Ingram's slice of the pie increases throughout the course of the season.

P. Manning is absolutely incredible, and should easily be in the discussion for greatest QB of all-time. A second SB win would have helped his case, but the play of his team without him this year is really driving home the point of how incredibly special he is, even when compared to all-time greats at the position.

 
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I learned that OTAs are important.

I learned that a lot of players look like they did little conditioning work.

I learned that most hype about players is wrong( I usually forget this every year at ff draft time).

I learned that most teams lie about the severity of injuries.

 

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