Sabertooth
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Let's see what happens if they do HGH testing.fruity pebbles said:
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What did we learn week one? (1 Viewer)
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shader
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bulger2holt
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Omniscient Deity
Footballguy
Antone Smith is a talented RB, everytime I watch tape of this guy he impresses me and is a big way waiting to happen. He must hate practice or just save his best for the real games to not be getting more touches from the Falcons staff.
Omniscient Deity
Footballguy
And also to add, ESPN's FF hosting is brutal. If they keep this up I'm definitely going back to Yahoo again(and changing my username).
cubbie5150
Footballguy
joffer
Footballguy
Couple there
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I learned that we all tend to overvalue known names entrenched at their position instead of looking harder at youth in a good situation.
NO:
Thomas -- 7/31
Ingram -- 13/60/2
Robinson -- 6/28/1
Thomas had a solid day in the passing game, but Ingram definitely looked like the sharper runner and I can see the team leaning on him and Robinson even more, making Thomas that much more overvalued than he already was at his ADP
ATL
Jackson 12/52
Rodgers -- 6/34/1
Freeman -- 2/15 rush, 2/18 rec
Smith -- 2/7 rush, 1/54/1 rec
Jackson held his but ATL has a plethora of young impact guys who in tandem could be more effective with more looks. Rodgers looks like he can take over the pounding, and be spelled by Freeman as a COP and Smith as a receiver in the backfield. If I was Mike Smith I would certainly give the three young runners a lot more opportunity at the expense of the old vet.
CLE:
Tate: 6/41
West: 16/100
Crowell: 5/32/2
So the other backs got their chance thanks to injury, so the comparison isn't exactly the same, but many people were drafting Tate to be the de facto workhorse. The reality is that the 2 backs behind Tate are very talented and likely to have shown flashes at some time anyway on limited carries. Looks way better to have taken West later in the draft with his upside than Tate earlier in the draft with his downside.
SF
Gore: 16/63
Hyde: 7/50/1
Many were expecting Hyde to have a solid role, and Gore is no longer a 1st or 2nd rounder, but still you are going to get a LOT more value out of Hyde this year than Gore.
And of course, the exception that proves the rule in BUF:
Fred Jackson: 7/61
CJ Spiller: 15/53
FJAX just not going away anytime soon.
Bradshaw looking really good too, making TRich's ADP look that much more overvalued.
NO:
Thomas -- 7/31
Ingram -- 13/60/2
Robinson -- 6/28/1
Thomas had a solid day in the passing game, but Ingram definitely looked like the sharper runner and I can see the team leaning on him and Robinson even more, making Thomas that much more overvalued than he already was at his ADP
ATL
Jackson 12/52
Rodgers -- 6/34/1
Freeman -- 2/15 rush, 2/18 rec
Smith -- 2/7 rush, 1/54/1 rec
Jackson held his but ATL has a plethora of young impact guys who in tandem could be more effective with more looks. Rodgers looks like he can take over the pounding, and be spelled by Freeman as a COP and Smith as a receiver in the backfield. If I was Mike Smith I would certainly give the three young runners a lot more opportunity at the expense of the old vet.
CLE:
Tate: 6/41
West: 16/100
Crowell: 5/32/2
So the other backs got their chance thanks to injury, so the comparison isn't exactly the same, but many people were drafting Tate to be the de facto workhorse. The reality is that the 2 backs behind Tate are very talented and likely to have shown flashes at some time anyway on limited carries. Looks way better to have taken West later in the draft with his upside than Tate earlier in the draft with his downside.
SF
Gore: 16/63
Hyde: 7/50/1
Many were expecting Hyde to have a solid role, and Gore is no longer a 1st or 2nd rounder, but still you are going to get a LOT more value out of Hyde this year than Gore.
And of course, the exception that proves the rule in BUF:
Fred Jackson: 7/61
CJ Spiller: 15/53
FJAX just not going away anytime soon.
Bradshaw looking really good too, making TRich's ADP look that much more overvalued.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
I think we learned trich is one of those backs that gets better as he gets more carries
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
chinawildman
Footballguy
Learned that the "common wisdom" of rookie WRs not being productive is becoming antiquated and going the way of the "third year wide receiver" rule.
Since 2010, there have consistently been FF-relevant rookie WRs every year, Julio, AJ Green, TY Hilton, Allen, and now Cooks and Benjamin come out with a bang.
Since 2010, there have consistently been FF-relevant rookie WRs every year, Julio, AJ Green, TY Hilton, Allen, and now Cooks and Benjamin come out with a bang.
chinawildman
Footballguy
Pretty good. He obviously didn't have to do much. He looked like a more seasoned passer to me. Looked off defenders, didn't stare down his primary receivers. What impressed me the most is that he stood tall in the pocket a few times to deliver the pass rather than take off scrambling... Shows trust in his teammates which is easier said than done IMO.
One More Rep
Footballguy
Antonio Brown is officially a stud, may have to move him to #6 wr in Dynasty. (Depending on Gordon)
Derek Carr will be much better than his brother
It is time to worry about RG3 as your starting qb
Tony Romo's arm looks like it lost some zip
Julio Jones looks like himself
Le'Veon Bell is not 2013 Trent Richardson
Derek Carr will be much better than his brother
It is time to worry about RG3 as your starting qb
Tony Romo's arm looks like it lost some zip
Julio Jones looks like himself
Le'Veon Bell is not 2013 Trent Richardson
chinawildman
Footballguy
LOL you've gotta be kidding, this game was 28-3 at the half. The refs basically had to step in to prevent the game from becoming a complete embarassment. Phantom holding, offensive PI calls, and a shanked FG were the only things that stopped the niners offense from scoring in the 2nd half.
Monday Observations: This is not the RG3 we were expecting to see
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24700335/monday-observations-this-is-not-the-rg3-we-were-expecting-to-see
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24700335/monday-observations-this-is-not-the-rg3-we-were-expecting-to-see
Sorting the Sunday Pile: Dallas' dumpster fire
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24700394/sorting-the-sunday-pile-dallas-dumpster-fire
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24700394/sorting-the-sunday-pile-dallas-dumpster-fire
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pretty sure kelce dropped a tough but catchable td. i think he will be pretty solid this yr. he has to be otherwise that team is just gonna be a travesty.
rjv
Footballguy
Laughed when I read those comments as well.Yes, and you need to be real careful who you listen to in the preseason. I read a couple of places that Anderson might get cut.CJ Anderson is a better runner than Montee Ball.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Didn't see the play but Kelce will be fine. I cut him before the games for Josh Gordon, but if you can use a #2 TE of flex, he's a good pickup.
rjv
Footballguy
FUBAR
Footballguy
Juwan Thompson was active, got no stats, but did he play?Laughed when I read those comments as well.Yes, and you need to be real careful who you listen to in the preseason. I read a couple of places that Anderson might get cut.CJ Anderson is a better runner than Montee Ball.
Shutout
Footballguy
That all those lengthy threads about the older players appear at this time to be severe over reactions (the Foster/Garcon/Wayne/Andre Johnson threads in particular).
It's only week one, but all those people saying they won't do this and they won't do that seem like a LOT of talk but here we are and it looks like more of the same.
It's only week one, but all those people saying they won't do this and they won't do that seem like a LOT of talk but here we are and it looks like more of the same.
Shutout
Footballguy
That the most important (one of the most anyway) indicators in FF is about something 99.9% of us completely ignore-the offensive line.
Lacy, Charles, Martin, Shady, maybe a few others I miss off the top of my head-you can clearly see the impact the line is having on them.
Conversely, DeMarco Murray and the much improved Cowboy line look very competent.
Speaking of Cowboys, I imagine the world-at-large will bash Romo as usual and this time he deserves it. He must come to grips that he can't make all the plays every play. I think the pressure of their pourous defense is in his head and he is thinking he has to carry this team every snap. The good news is he will be fine fantasy-wise soon. They will come to realize this. THe bad news is the Cowboys have no shot this year...again.
Lacy, Charles, Martin, Shady, maybe a few others I miss off the top of my head-you can clearly see the impact the line is having on them.
Conversely, DeMarco Murray and the much improved Cowboy line look very competent.
Speaking of Cowboys, I imagine the world-at-large will bash Romo as usual and this time he deserves it. He must come to grips that he can't make all the plays every play. I think the pressure of their pourous defense is in his head and he is thinking he has to carry this team every snap. The good news is he will be fine fantasy-wise soon. They will come to realize this. THe bad news is the Cowboys have no shot this year...again.
Craig_MiamiFL
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NFL Game Pass is awesome
Kelvin Benjamin isn't the project I thought he'd be coming out of FSU. That TD catch while being mugged was insane.
Kelvin Benjamin isn't the project I thought he'd be coming out of FSU. That TD catch while being mugged was insane.
Kelvin is like yet another human wake up call every week at this point. I started to value him higher than I had been after the stories about his sublime connection with Cam and his crazy work ethic came out in conjunction with the big preseason (like everyone did)...but I think I still undervalued him, and was lucky to get him in a league or two (wish it were more).
He went out and made Derek Anderson look like the 2007 model again, even though DA was still making bad into-traffic decisions with the ball. Hell, Fitz and Breaston couldn't achieve that feat in a year of trying, but this kid did in his first game as a pro. Turning bad throws into gold is one of the major hallmarks of a stud WR, because that kind of physicality makes it REALLY hard for an opponent to shut you down.
Man, nice work, CAR. Didn't see this one coming, but I'm a believer.
Avery
Footballguy
True quality of but offensive lines seem to be pretty hard to predict.
IIRC, San Diego was supposed to be awful going into last year and they did a very good job. There is a lot of chemistry that is needed between the five guys that can make the whole greater (or worse) than the parts.
lod01
Footballguy
Plus he referred to Clowney as 'just a guy'. He looked great in action last season whenever they gave him a chance.
zamboni
Footballguy
Very good point. There's no way to know how good or bad an OL will turn out to be unless you constantly see them in the trenches. We FBGs only go by what we hear/read from reporters and the like, and even they are often speculating on limited sightings.
Acme CEO
Footballguy
Bradshaw was the better back and was in during their hurry up offense, which is where Luck is the most effective. He's better at picking up the blitz and finding a soft spot for a dump off when Luck scrambles.
Indy would be better off with Luck running the hurry up all game with Bradshaw behind him.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
The Eagles will win the NFC East with a 1-15 record.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
And he played through a hurt ankle. Plays Washington next week (assuming he can give it a go). Not a lot of depth behind him?
I would feel differently if this was like his 2nd or 3rd year as the starter. But they paid him to be the guy and they don't have much behind him.
Hopefully volume alone can keep him at a low end RB2. I am looking for positives.
chinawildman
Footballguy
Definitely. The last SF game I watched was the NFC championship against Seattle. Fast forward to the Dallas game and it looked like they were playing defense with 10 people on the field.
How did CJ Anderson look? His statline is solid, but I didn't watch the game. Any chance he gets more carries moving forward?Yeah, he looks slow/unimpressive on my TV as well.
