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Andy, I'm with you in the fact that I think he's going to be a great defensive player this year and for many to come. However, I'm not sure he CAN do enough to justify being the #1 pick over Bush and Vince. That, of course, isn't his fault.Andy Dufresne said:
That's even worse. How does he become your starter if he's that bad?jurb26 said:
Dont act all high-and-mighty, I admitted I was wrong, leave it at that.shadyridr said:
It's Cleveland, what do you expect.
I'm sorry, but it seems another franchise would have to actually TRY to be worse to actually BE worse than the Browns.Play Quinn!It's Cleveland, what do you expect.
only the Florida jobs. You cant beat the weather there unless San Diego become unexpectingly available.Fixed.prymetyme25 said:
Frye, Anderson, Quinn...whomever. Crennel is an idiot! You can't flip-flop and waffle on a week to week basis on who your starter will be. The team will NEVER gel like this! He's making himself and the team look bad and if he continues on he'll be gone before you know it.Name a guy and stick with him! At this point, I'm against bringing in Quinn just because the team is so bad and he'd get destroyed. I think they should name Frye or Anderson as starter and ease Quinn in later on.
ETA: I really hope they were cheering the effort he made to get off the field...... if not what a bunch of f'ing losers.
I disagree and think Romeo needs to take the Carson Palmer route with Quinn and hold a clipboard for a year.Let Anderson and Frye get hammered to a pulp this year.Next year get Michael Turner and start fresh with Quinn.
When Clemmens started jogging onto the field the cheers got even louder.
Being in the stands, I can confirm that snogger is right. I'm sometimes embarrassed to be surrounded by some of the diehards there.ETA: I really hope they were cheering the effort he made to get off the field...... if not what a bunch of f'ing losers.
you know... that's about as good an answer as you could have given there.that alone does a lot to redeem JETS fans.more proof that a man can not be judged by the laundry he roots for.
Mario could turn into Julius Peppers and I still don't think people will ever let Houston off the hook.
I was definitely in the boat of thinking Moss was no longer an elite WR. I even applied an analogy on ESPN boards to explain the relationship between the Pats and Moss: Pats = Rome, Moss = Visigoths. Definitely wrong there as well.Pats fans have definitely earned the right to gloat.Still a bit giddy but,I learned that all the analysts both professional and amateur had some really interesting, great-sounding arguments stating that Moss lost a step, was a shadow of his former self, etc, etc :whoosh:
OOOOF. Really? Berman? His nicknames and sound effects? I learned that I will be watching a lot more of the NFL network than ESPN this season.
Since most people talk completely out of their bunghole, I guess that's to be expected.
He IS a shadow of his former self. Fortunately for him, he's so talented that even his shadow, when placed in a perfect environment like he's now in, can produce.Spending a 4th rounder to acquire him looks like a steal for now. Let's see him handle a little adversity and see what happens. Of course, the Patriots are so good that I doubt they'll face any adversity this year. :whoosh:Still a bit giddy but,I learned that all the analysts both professional and amateur had some really interesting, great-sounding arguments stating that Moss lost a step, was a shadow of his former self, etc, etc
I'm not as worried about his skills as I am the situation. Brady is a great QB. One of the reasons he is so great is he spreads the ball around a lot which does not bode well for fantasy #'s. The antithesis to this is Brady has never had someone like Moss to throw to. Maybe he hones in on one WR more than he has done in the past. If so Moss is in for a monster season again....I was definitely in the boat of thinking Moss was no longer an elite WR. I even applied an analogy on ESPN boards to explain the relationship between the Pats and Moss: Pats = Rome, Moss = Visigoths. Definitely wrong there as well.Pats fans have definitely earned the right to gloat.Still a bit giddy but,I learned that all the analysts both professional and amateur had some really interesting, great-sounding arguments stating that Moss lost a step, was a shadow of his former self, etc, etc
Wait, wait let me breathe...OKay
Fear the Lions....well not really but we're undefeated so I gotta take advantage while I canthe only team with a shot is the Bears IMO....if they make a change at QB.
I believe that even Tom Brady, as much as he likes to break down a defense and pick them apart by throwing to the open receiver, can get sucked in by the long ball. There's nothing like the long bomb and there's never been anyone like Moss when it comes to catching it. So, you put one of the best arms in the league together with the best deep threat the game has ever had and you get explosiveness. I have to admit that I needed to see Moss gain the separation like he used to in order to beleive he still had it. But, his TD yesterday was nothing short of vintage Moss pulling away from everyone like they were standing still. He once again has a guy that can out-throw him in Brady, so the sky is the limit. Could be some homer testosterone carrying over here, but I liked what I saw. The only sad thing, as I said to my friends during the game is that anything short of a superbowl will be a complete failure. We have zero excuses.I'm not as worried about his skills as I am the situation. Brady is a great QB. One of the reasons he is so great is he spreads the ball around a lot which does not bode well for fantasy #'s. The antithesis to this is Brady has never had someone like Moss to throw to. Maybe he hones in on one WR more than he has done in the past. If so Moss is in for a monster season again....I was definitely in the boat of thinking Moss was no longer an elite WR. I even applied an analogy on ESPN boards to explain the relationship between the Pats and Moss: Pats = Rome, Moss = Visigoths. Definitely wrong there as well.Pats fans have definitely earned the right to gloat.Still a bit giddy but,I learned that all the analysts both professional and amateur had some really interesting, great-sounding arguments stating that Moss lost a step, was a shadow of his former self, etc, etc
the only team with a shot is the Bears IMO....if they make a change at QB.