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What didn't we see during the Draft? (1 Viewer)

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Off the top of my head there were three things I didn't see over the weekend that I was sure I would see. All are on the offensive side of the ball as I don't play in any IDP leagues and don't follow the D's of the other 31 teams that closely.

The Bears did not draft a QB. Uh, WHAT?
The Texans did not draft a RB other than a 3rd down back. Are they that happy with Ahman Green and Chris Brown?
The Seahawks did not draft a future starting RB. Julius Jones and TJ Ducket? Really?
 
The Steelers NOT drafting a single defensive lineman to play defensive line.

I agree with you on the Bears. That made practically no sense at all. I think the Wonder Dog and Dr. Neck Beard have shown they ain't the answer.

 
They never ran highlights of the Titans 2nd round pick, Jason Jones. Even worse, the broadcast I was watching (ESPN through Direct TV) cut to commercial when the pick was made and the "ticker" below the screen fell off for a Chevy ad. So I had to call a friend to ask who they picked.

 
Danny Woodhead, Division 2 Running Back not being drafted.

"He ran over everybody in Division 2".

OK. Does that make him a sure-fire NFL'er. NO, IT DOES NOT!!!

ESPN coverage of this: :lmao:

 
Titans not giving Young any WR weapons.
I'll second that. FatDale White might have needed a complement at RB, but missing on WRs until the 4th round (yes, they got a TE in the 3rd) was a mistake. It left them happy to find a 5'11 guy in Lavelle Hawkins. I'm sorry - who??? That's not helping VY's value at all.
 
What I didn't see during the draft was good draft coverage by NFL Network!!! It was awful!!! Here some of the things that bothered me about NFL Network:

No scrolling of players taken, so if you missed a pick...you had no idea that player was taken or what happended before this current pick.

If a trade occurred, you didn't find out what was traded until 5 picks later.

No comments about who the current team might be looking at, just reaction to the pick that was made before.

Mayock is a tool and as hard headed as they come. Only sees things his way and doesn't try to understand why that player was taken.

Basically every OL taken, highlights were only of SR bowl practice and they only mentioned bad things. So, if your team just took the OL...you got welcomed by a "this guy needs a lot of work" statement by NFL network/Mayock.

There were a few other things, but they escape me at the moment. I'll try to think of the other things in a bit...

 
Tampa must be really happy with Graham, or Caddy is coming along better than expected for the Bucs to ignore the RB position.

IMO, we didn't see the best RB in the draft be among the first 3 RB's selected.

 
Tampa must be really happy with Graham, or Caddy is coming along better than expected for the Bucs to ignore the RB position.

IMO, we didn't see the best RB in the draft be among the first 3 RB's selected.
Whom are you referring to? Is this in terms of Fantasy prod or NFL prod? I mean I can see Mendenhall having a big impact in Pittsburgh in terms of the Steelers winning games, but I don't see him having much of a fantasy impact...
 
Just to clarify, I was looking more for what needs were not addressed by NFL teams rather than Marshall Faulk's gaffes of switching around the names of a 3rd string RB or lack of good highlights of guys drafted, particularly linemen. Because let's face it, seeing a huge guy run a 40 is better TV than seeing an O-Lineman not allow a guy to get past him.

 
Titans not giving Young any WR weapons.
I'll second that. FatDale White might have needed a complement at RB, but missing on WRs until the 4th round (yes, they got a TE in the 3rd) was a mistake. It left them happy to find a 5'11 guy in Lavelle Hawkins. I'm sorry - who??? That's not helping VY's value at all.
If they use him properly, CJ could easily be the Titans leading receiver. VY fans (myself included) need to give up hope that they'll draft a WR high, it's not their MO.
 
Patriots drafting a QB when they had other needs.
Disagree with this one. Their needs were DB and LB help and they addressed that with their first 3 picks. As they said on the coverage, Cassel has one more year left and will probably be going somewhere else. That give them a year to get the new guy up to speed and learn so they have a solid backup in a year. Then they took another DB after this pick. Don't understand people's hate for the QB pick at all.
 
Patriots drafting a QB when they had other needs.
Disagree with this one. Their needs were DB and LB help and they addressed that with their first 3 picks. As they said on the coverage, Cassel has one more year left and will probably be going somewhere else. That give them a year to get the new guy up to speed and learn so they have a solid backup in a year. Then they took another DB after this pick. Don't understand people's hate for the QB pick at all.
I was confused about the pick as well, but now that I know about the contract situation for Cassel it makes sense. As a backup to Tom Brady he has to be looking to either try to start somewhere else or just get the most money he can. It's not like he's going to the HOF. He should look out for his family first and just be a mercenary as a backup to whomever pays the most...
 
Here's another one, why didn't Arizona select a RB? Edge is getting up there and JJ and Marcel just aren't starter material IMO...

 
Tampa Bay trading back with Jax in round 2 and missing out on Brian Brohm. I was listening to the draft on Sirius and everyone on the telecast was talking this kid up in a big way, so I really hoped the Bucs would land him.

The closer it got to the Buc's 2nd pick the more it looked like they could get Brohm. Then they trade back with Jax and take Dexter Jackson, ugh.

Good thing Phil Simms' son is still on the roster!

 
Tampa Bay trading back with Jax in round 2 and missing out on Brian Brohm. I was listening to the draft on Sirius and everyone on the telecast was talking this kid up in a big way, so I really hoped the Bucs would land him.The closer it got to the Buc's 2nd pick the more it looked like they could get Brohm. Then they trade back with Jax and take Dexter Jackson, ugh.Good thing Phil Simms' son is still on the roster!
Good point. Why no QB taken before the 5th for TB?
 
I'll tell you what I wish we hadn't seen...the NFL Network getting obsessed about the Pats selection of O'Connell. I mean, they could NOT get past it, to the point where every segment Jamie Dukes and Mayock were going head to head over whether it was a smart move. It was so annoying. We're talking about a team that was 18-1 doing what they always do, grabbing developmental QBs; like it mattered.

 
Titans not giving Young any WR weapons.
I'll second that. FatDale White might have needed a complement at RB, but missing on WRs until the 4th round (yes, they got a TE in the 3rd) was a mistake. It left them happy to find a 5'11 guy in Lavelle Hawkins. I'm sorry - who??? That's not helping VY's value at all.
Hawkins out of cal is a good WR. While he may not be a true WR1, they could do a lot worse
 
Off the top of my head there were three things I didn't see over the weekend that I was sure I would see. All are on the offensive side of the ball as I don't play in any IDP leagues and don't follow the D's of the other 31 teams that closely.

The Bears did not draft a QB. Uh, WHAT?

The Texans did not draft a RB other than a 3rd down back. Are they that happy with Ahman Green and Chris Brown?
The Seahawks did not draft a future starting RB. Julius Jones and TJ Ducket? Really?
Are they happy with Ahman Green, Chris Taylor, Chris Brown, and Darius Walker. Not enough that they didn't add a 3rd down back.It seems like everyone who doesn't follow the Texans are the ones who think they needed RBs, while people who follow them know their primary needs were at other positions. I'd think that was a fantasy football effect unique to the boards, but I saw it too much in the national media to write it off so simply. Those first 3 RBs are a lot better NFL options, even with the injury risk, than are the guys lining up at left tackle and cornerback (especially with Dunta out for most of the coming season). The positions which coincidentally were taken with their earliest 2 picks, after which they added a RB.

 
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I'll tell you what I wish we hadn't seen...the NFL Network getting obsessed about the Pats selection of O'Connell. I mean, they could NOT get past it, to the point where every segment Jamie Dukes and Mayock were going head to head over whether it was a smart move. It was so annoying. We're talking about a team that was 18-1 doing what they always do, grabbing developmental QBs; like it mattered.
Wow, do I disagree, as, I think, do several people who posted with me about this in the draft thread.Guys debating good draft philosophy is a bad thing? Seriously? That was some of the best content of the entire weekend. I'll take that kind of discussion, especially on day 2, over an interview with the #7 overall pick or footage of the Lions first two picks showing up at team headquarters and pretty much anything else that wasn't discussing the player being selected at the time.

It was contentious, but they were all making good points about a topic with no simple answer about, how much do you look ahead and how much do you fill your team's needs. We're having this very discussion here in another thread right now.

 
To me the hugest gaff of the draft -- that surprisingly no one really seems to be talking about -- is the Ravens way overestimating when the second-tier QB run would start and giving up too much to get Flacco.

He probably would have been there with their second round pick. At a minimum they'd have had their choice of Henne or Brohm.

Another head-scratcher was SD giving up a 2009 second to trade back into the third and select Jacob Hester. He would have been a reach had they selected him in the fourth, let alone giving up future picks for the guy.

But the Chargers -- along with Indy, Baltimore, NE & Pitt -- seem to be immune from draft criticism in the media.

 
Tampa must be really happy with Graham, or Caddy is coming along better than expected for the Bucs to ignore the RB position.

IMO, we didn't see the best RB in the draft be among the first 3 RB's selected.
Whom are you referring to? Is this in terms of Fantasy prod or NFL prod? I mean I can see Mendenhall having a big impact in Pittsburgh in terms of the Steelers winning games, but I don't see him having much of a fantasy impact...
I thought Mendenhall was the best all-around back in the draft, Carolina taking Stewart over him was a terrible move, so was taking a round 1 RB in general for them.I think Mendenhall will be the best fantasy back as well in the long-term. For this year, I think he splits 50-50 with Parker and by the end of the year is likely getting 60-65% of the carries.

 
Off the top of my head there were three things I didn't see over the weekend that I was sure I would see. All are on the offensive side of the ball as I don't play in any IDP leagues and don't follow the D's of the other 31 teams that closely.

The Bears did not draft a QB. Uh, WHAT?

The Texans did not draft a RB other than a 3rd down back. Are they that happy with Ahman Green and Chris Brown?
The Seahawks did not draft a future starting RB. Julius Jones and TJ Ducket? Really?
Are they happy with Ahman Green, Chris Taylor, Chris Brown, and Darius Walker. Not enough that they didn't add a 3rd down back.It seems like everyone who doesn't follow the Texans are the ones who think they needed RBs, while people who follow them know their primary needs were at other positions. I'd think that was a fantasy football effect unique to the boards, but I saw it too much in the national media to write it off so simply. Those first 3 RBs are a lot better NFL options, even with the injury risk, than are the guys lining up at left tackle and cornerback (especially with Dunta out for most of the coming season). The positions which coincidentally were taken with their earliest 2 picks, after which they added a RB.
Well, of course we are biased towards the offensive skill positions. I have never seen a league that has two OG's, a NG and two OT's as part of the starting rotation. They might lead to better production by the RB's QB's, WR's TE's and K's that we do start every week but most of us don't pay that close attention to the O-Line personnel of the 31 other teams besides the home team. I just can't see any of those RB's starting 16 weeks and considering this draft was pretty thick with RB's I thought they would go after one of the bigger names earlier.

 
Off the top of my head there were three things I didn't see over the weekend that I was sure I would see. All are on the offensive side of the ball as I don't play in any IDP leagues and don't follow the D's of the other 31 teams that closely.

The Bears did not draft a QB. Uh, WHAT?

The Texans did not draft a RB other than a 3rd down back. Are they that happy with Ahman Green and Chris Brown?
The Seahawks did not draft a future starting RB. Julius Jones and TJ Ducket? Really?
Are they happy with Ahman Green, Chris Taylor, Chris Brown, and Darius Walker. Not enough that they didn't add a 3rd down back.It seems like everyone who doesn't follow the Texans are the ones who think they needed RBs, while people who follow them know their primary needs were at other positions. I'd think that was a fantasy football effect unique to the boards, but I saw it too much in the national media to write it off so simply. Those first 3 RBs are a lot better NFL options, even with the injury risk, than are the guys lining up at left tackle and cornerback (especially with Dunta out for most of the coming season). The positions which coincidentally were taken with their earliest 2 picks, after which they added a RB.
Well, of course we are biased towards the offensive skill positions. I have never seen a league that has two OG's, a NG and two OT's as part of the starting rotation. They might lead to better production by the RB's QB's, WR's TE's and K's that we do start every week but most of us don't pay that close attention to the O-Line personnel of the 31 other teams besides the home team. I just can't see any of those RB's starting 16 weeks and considering this draft was pretty thick with RB's I thought they would go after one of the bigger names earlier.
Well, they only had a 1st and a 3rd. Taking a RB would mean forgoing left tackle or cornerback. Molden was a steal at their first pick in the third round, and I'm not sure there's a RB that would have been a better value at that pick. They picked up the additional third and then did use that on a RB, so they took one about as early as made sense.I'm not huge on Slaton, even though he played with this run blocking scheme. But they pretty much took the positions in order based on the combination of quality of the player, need of the position, and drop off if they waited to pick again. After Brown they saw a huge drop, in particular. They've said they were not taking a RB in the first.

I'd rather get the tackle and corner now and give them a year to develop and go get a RB next year who can produce as a rookie, if one of the existing ones doesn't work out. And the staff is pretty high on Chris Taylor if he can stay healthy this time. At the training camps I went to in past seasons, the only RB who looked as good as Taylor, to me, was DD when he was healthy.

 
But the Chargers -- along with Indy, Baltimore, NE & Pitt -- seem to be immune from draft criticism in the media.
Maybe because the press has learned that in retrospect, questionable moves by those teams generally turn out smart. (i.e. Tony Ugoh trade up last year for Indy)
 
Tampa must be really happy with Graham, or Caddy is coming along better than expected for the Bucs to ignore the RB position.

IMO, we didn't see the best RB in the draft be among the first 3 RB's selected.
Whom are you referring to? Is this in terms of Fantasy prod or NFL prod? I mean I can see Mendenhall having a big impact in Pittsburgh in terms of the Steelers winning games, but I don't see him having much of a fantasy impact...
I thought Mendenhall was the best all-around back in the draft, Carolina taking Stewart over him was a terrible move, so was taking a round 1 RB in general for them.I think Mendenhall will be the best fantasy back as well in the long-term. For this year, I think he splits 50-50 with Parker and by the end of the year is likely getting 60-65% of the carries.
Disagreeing on which RB to take is fine, but to say they didn't need an RB in the first is just silly. Really. Williams is not the answer at running back, the FAs out there aren't even worth one year as a starter, and the guys they had behind DA aren't starting material, as we've see when they've had to use them.
 
Titans not giving Young any WR weapons.
I'll second that. FatDale White might have needed a complement at RB, but missing on WRs until the 4th round (yes, they got a TE in the 3rd) was a mistake. It left them happy to find a 5'11 guy in Lavelle Hawkins. I'm sorry - who??? That's not helping VY's value at all.
Hawkins out of cal is a good WR. While he may not be a true WR1, they could do a lot worse
"They could a lot worse" is not what fans want to hear on draft day.
 
Off the top of my head there were three things I didn't see over the weekend that I was sure I would see. All are on the offensive side of the ball as I don't play in any IDP leagues and don't follow the D's of the other 31 teams that closely.

The Bears did not draft a QB. Uh, WHAT?

The Texans did not draft a RB other than a 3rd down back. Are they that happy with Ahman Green and Chris Brown?
The Seahawks did not draft a future starting RB. Julius Jones and TJ Ducket? Really?
Are they happy with Ahman Green, Chris Taylor, Chris Brown, and Darius Walker. Not enough that they didn't add a 3rd down back.It seems like everyone who doesn't follow the Texans are the ones who think they needed RBs, while people who follow them know their primary needs were at other positions. I'd think that was a fantasy football effect unique to the boards, but I saw it too much in the national media to write it off so simply. Those first 3 RBs are a lot better NFL options, even with the injury risk, than are the guys lining up at left tackle and cornerback (especially with Dunta out for most of the coming season). The positions which coincidentally were taken with their earliest 2 picks, after which they added a RB.
Well, of course we are biased towards the offensive skill positions. I have never seen a league that has two OG's, a NG and two OT's as part of the starting rotation. They might lead to better production by the RB's QB's, WR's TE's and K's that we do start every week but most of us don't pay that close attention to the O-Line personnel of the 31 other teams besides the home team. I just can't see any of those RB's starting 16 weeks and considering this draft was pretty thick with RB's I thought they would go after one of the bigger names earlier.
Well, they only had a 1st and a 3rd. Taking a RB would mean forgoing left tackle or cornerback. Molden was a steal at their first pick in the third round, and I'm not sure there's a RB that would have been a better value at that pick. They picked up the additional third and then did use that on a RB, so they took one about as early as made sense.I'm not huge on Slaton, even though he played with this run blocking scheme. But they pretty much took the positions in order based on the combination of quality of the player, need of the position, and drop off if they waited to pick again. After Brown they saw a huge drop, in particular. They've said they were not taking a RB in the first.

I'd rather get the tackle and corner now and give them a year to develop and go get a RB next year who can produce as a rookie, if one of the existing ones doesn't work out. And the staff is pretty high on Chris Taylor if he can stay healthy this time. At the training camps I went to in past seasons, the only RB who looked as good as Taylor, to me, was DD when he was healthy.
Not having the 2nd rounder makes this scenario make a lot of sense now. If they have that second rounder they could snag a RB there and fill all the needs as well as get the RB. I will say this, it looks like in terms of Fantasy Football anyone trying to lock down the Houston running game is going to need to waste at least 2 if not 3 roster spots in order to get solid production out of this crew all season....And getting a 3rd down back makes sense to help spell the starters to keep them upright...

 
No Jets fan montage when they were on the clock at #6 :no:

As a Bengals fan what I saw was no movement up or down the draft board (though usually with us, it's moving down). Mostly this didn't hurt us though as happily I didn't see a DT run after our pick in the 2nd round.

-QG

 
no WR fpr Dallas ..... seems like a huge blunder.Why not get a guy in there that could develop..??
Is that a mistake by Dallas or some sort of faith in Crayton? I can't imagine they think that Crayton is the future WR1 in Dallas when TO leaves town. But I'm some schmuck on a web board and they get paid $$$ to make these decisions....
 
no WR fpr Dallas ..... seems like a huge blunder.Why not get a guy in there that could develop..??
Is that a mistake by Dallas or some sort of faith in Crayton? I can't imagine they think that Crayton is the future WR1 in Dallas when TO leaves town. But I'm some schmuck on a web board and they get paid $$$ to make these decisions....
I dont think drafting a WR would reflect anything about Crayton.I like Crayton , and think he fits well in the offense ... but who is behind him at WR ???Hurd , Austin ..?? They dont seem to be able to get the job done.Glenn ?? hopefully he gets healthy....and productive if he is still with the team.Marcus Monk would have been a nice player with upside to select.Also, when they added the 4th , then drafted a TE in the 2nd , I was under the assumption that they (and most other people) felt that there would be a nice WR falling for them to take and they wanted to get back in the 4th round.
 
1. The Cowboys not getting a WR, or trading for one.

2. The Lions could have traded for Mendenhall with Roy Williams plus a 4th round pick. So in essence, the Lions could have Mendenhall plus a 4th rounder or Roy Williams. If I was the Lions and I have Calvin and a couple decent NO. 2 receivers in McDonald and Furrey, I think Menenhall and the 4th rounder is more valuable to them.

3. Bears not taking a QB at least late in the draft to see if you get lucky is questionable at best.

4. Pittsburgh deciding they don't need improvement on their defensive line. ( I think this move comes back to haunt them this season)

 
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no WR fpr Dallas ..... seems like a huge blunder.Why not get a guy in there that could develop..??
Is that a mistake by Dallas or some sort of faith in Crayton? I can't imagine they think that Crayton is the future WR1 in Dallas when TO leaves town. But I'm some schmuck on a web board and they get paid $$$ to make these decisions....
Dallas feels they are in a position to win the SB now. Taking a high draft pick on a WR wouldn't do very much for the Cowboys in the next 2 years. They spent their quality draft picks on NEEDED positions and although I think they could use another WR, Dallas finished 3rd in the NFL in offense last year with the receivers they have now. You can win Sb's by being the 3rd best offense in the league, it was defense they needed to improve on and fill voids that have left like TE and RB.I wish Dallas could have traded for a Boldin or a R. Williams but if those teams were hell bent on keeping them unless you traded away the farm for them, so be it. Although Crayton was a little outspoken at times last year, I thought he played just fine. He dropped a big ball in the playoffs, but Romo blundered the year before in Seattle and he played just fine last year.I expect Crayton to play well this year.
 
travdogg said:
Tampa must be really happy with Graham, or Caddy is coming along better than expected for the Bucs to ignore the RB position.

IMO, we didn't see the best RB in the draft be among the first 3 RB's selected.
Whom are you referring to? Is this in terms of Fantasy prod or NFL prod? I mean I can see Mendenhall having a big impact in Pittsburgh in terms of the Steelers winning games, but I don't see him having much of a fantasy impact...
I thought Mendenhall was the best all-around back in the draft, Carolina taking Stewart over him was a terrible move, so was taking a round 1 RB in general for them.I think Mendenhall will be the best fantasy back as well in the long-term. For this year, I think he splits 50-50 with Parker and by the end of the year is likely getting 60-65% of the carries.
Sorry but you are wrong. Mendenhall is going to be a spot player until he comes up t speed in an NFL offense. Willie may be moved next year to make room but this year it is 75% Willie.
 
travdogg said:
Tampa must be really happy with Graham, or Caddy is coming along better than expected for the Bucs to ignore the RB position.

IMO, we didn't see the best RB in the draft be among the first 3 RB's selected.
Whom are you referring to? Is this in terms of Fantasy prod or NFL prod? I mean I can see Mendenhall having a big impact in Pittsburgh in terms of the Steelers winning games, but I don't see him having much of a fantasy impact...
I thought Mendenhall was the best all-around back in the draft, Carolina taking Stewart over him was a terrible move, so was taking a round 1 RB in general for them.I think Mendenhall will be the best fantasy back as well in the long-term. For this year, I think he splits 50-50 with Parker and by the end of the year is likely getting 60-65% of the carries.
Sorry but you are wrong. Mendenhall is going to be a spot player until he comes up t speed in an NFL offense. Willie may be moved next year to make room but this year it is 75% Willie.
I totally agree. Unless Mendenhall can pick up the blitz right out of the gate FWP is the starter. Remember the focal point is Big Ben. Keeping him upright is more important than who's toting the rock....
 

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